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(Pittsburgh Post-Gazette)   Blatant attempt at a PC/Mac flamewar: Four-year-old iBooks cause riot, but five-year-old refurbished Dell giveaways referred to as "pretty much giving away garbage"   (post-gazette.com ) divider line
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2005-08-26 12:03:37 PM  
Ha, nice try sumbmitter, but it takes a helluva lot more than that to get me riled. Product loyalty and brands mean nothing to this post-modernist sophisticate.

I'm cool as ice Joe, and you're going to have to wake up pret-ty darn early to get ole' brap's gander galloping, cause I'm coool as a cuke, no problemo for me cause I'm grooving first class on a jet plane to Calmsville daddy-o...

WHAT? THIS LINK WAS PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED?!?!?!?!

(head explodes with rage)
 
2005-08-26 12:37:06 PM  
Federal officials are looking into what one investigator called the "mess" in the school district's inventory and accounting procedures for about 8,000 outdated computers to determine how about 50 of those computers, which the district has no record of donating, ended up for sale on eBay by A-1 PC Computer on Murray Avenue.

Oh, that's easy - someone's corrupt. Next question.
 
2005-08-26 03:42:13 PM  
Very nice brap. Is that from a movie?
 
2005-08-26 04:03:30 PM  
No, I made it up, but now that you mention it, it would work for "Bucket of Blood II"

/If you're a farker, call me Roger
 
2005-08-26 04:03:30 PM  
Wow, clearly one of the admins is a Mac zealot.
 
2005-08-26 04:04:29 PM  
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2005-08-26 04:05:34 PM  
You can have my Macintosh G4 when you pry from my cold, dead hands.

/mac nazi
//leaves thread before the NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSSS take over with their jibber jabber
 
2005-08-26 04:05:46 PM  
I wonder what ever happened to all the Apple II's we used when I was in school. I wish I had one now.
 
2005-08-26 04:06:12 PM  
Mac/PC Flame War:
Mac Guy: 0mg!! M4c aRe t3h r0xx0rz!!!
PC: STFU OMG!!11!! PC r teh l337!!!!11!!one
Linux Guy: OMG L1nux rox my sox!!
PC and Mac Guy: OMG!! L1nux is teh bwn0r!!!
Linxu Guy: STFU...
 
2005-08-26 04:06:20 PM  
Nice flamewar. No posts.

My girlfriend has a 4 year old iBook....runs great. osx 10.3, no problem.....after a ram upgrade, ran like a delight.

I like macs.

I have a pc, and like them too, but have to fix mine all the time. P4 2.6ghz, 2.5 years old, and the iBook runs better? Weird.
 
2005-08-26 04:06:53 PM  
Hey, as anyone seen an "it" around here...I seemed to have left mine out somewhere

/shiate
//runs away
 
2005-08-26 04:07:26 PM  
The computers weren't more carefully accounted for because they were believed to have almost no value, Fellers said.

And I'm sure the accounting methods on the more valuable stuff is air-tight, uh huh.

So 50 out of 8000 not-very-carefully-accounted-for obsolete computers were for sale on Ebay, and this is news?
 
2005-08-26 04:07:38 PM  
I use both PC and Mac. Does that make me bi?

/If I didn't love games I wouldn't have a PC.
 
2005-08-26 04:08:39 PM  
You don't announce flamewars. They're spontaneous events.
 
2005-08-26 04:09:12 PM  
I read Mac people are more likely to subscribe to intelligent design theory.
 
2005-08-26 04:09:34 PM  
/Crickets
 
2005-08-26 04:11:16 PM  
Mac users are more likely to enjoy old, outdated junk computers than those who use PCs.

/fact
 
2005-08-26 04:11:29 PM  
Still on a nearly 6 year old iMac here.. Just fine for web browsing, chat, anything Internet related. But I use my brother's PC running Win98 for WoW, and nothing else. Of course, that's all he uses it for, either.
 
2005-08-26 04:11:48 PM  
Bill O'Reilly called mac users terrorists. Also, I saw Michael Moore ordering a pizza using a Mac. Ha ha, that fatty.
 
2005-08-26 04:11:53 PM  
Major Thomb: I read Mac people are more likely to subscribe to intelligent design theory.

Actually, other way around - more Mac people tend to have higher education degrees, and more biologists and geneticists are Mac people (thanks to Blast!)
 
2005-08-26 04:11:54 PM  
My abacus is teh roxors
 
2005-08-26 04:12:31 PM  
I'd expect a 4 year old laptop to be worth more than a 5 to 7 year old desktop machine.

Me, I buy cheap computers that I can use to learn job skills. PCs have worked very well for me. Current one cost about $225 after rebates last December. All parts sold separately of course.

The money goes into quality display(s). I have two 1280x1024, looking to upgrade one of them soon.
 
2005-08-26 04:13:28 PM  
you say 4-year-old dell and the masses say "meh"

you say iBook and the masses say "OMG!!! IT HAS A LOWER CASE "i" AT THE FRONT!!! IT MUST BE TEH ROXORS!@!!! IT MUST BE MINE!!!! BAAAA!!!! BAAAA!!!!"

i'm now selling iBagOfFeces for the low-low price of $495 + shipping, who want's one?
 
2005-08-26 04:13:41 PM  
I had a bunch of 5-year-old pc's. I could not get $10 for them including monitors keyboards and mice and speakers, everything worked.
 
2005-08-26 04:15:11 PM  
Theaetetus
more Mac people tend to have higher education degrees

BWAHAHAHAAHHAAH!!!!!1!11

/hehe
 
2005-08-26 04:15:28 PM  
PC users are more likely to develop a case of teh ghey.
 
2005-08-26 04:18:22 PM  
You mean that iBook I have that I use as a beer coaster and to duff out my blunts could be used to start a riot? hmmm very interesting...
 
2005-08-26 04:18:41 PM  
PC Users are more likely to enter flamewars
 
2005-08-26 04:18:52 PM  
Theaetetus

Actually, other way around - more Mac people tend to have higher education degrees, and more biologists and geneticists are Mac people (thanks to Blast!)

Do you have any proof of this whatsoever, or are you just talking out of your ass?
 
2005-08-26 04:19:49 PM  
Damaramu

Yeah, the term is bi-techual
 
2005-08-26 04:19:53 PM  
well it's true.

people with macs buy them because, well, they do what they are supposed to do, and rarely have OS issues.

i mean what are you gonna do with a 5yo dell besides maybe play with linux on it.
 
2005-08-26 04:20:51 PM  
I have a pc, and like them too, but have to fix mine all the time. P4 2.6ghz, 2.5 years old, and the iBook runs better?


That is what happens when you buy prebuilt... they use crapy parts. My current computer is 2 years old (2700 barton, fx5900, 1 gig 3200 ram) and it runs great. and the two computers I made before this one also run great, which I gave to my sister and my mom. One is 4 years old, and the other 8.
 
2005-08-26 04:21:06 PM  
Major Thomb

odd, considering pseudo starbucks intellectuals usually subscribe to evolution, and a lot of mac people could be considered pseudo starbucks intellectuals

/mac user
//just a tool, if we were using typewriters i'd use a typewriter
///doesn't like writing on computers anyways, wants to buy a typewriter
 
2005-08-26 04:21:21 PM  
 
2005-08-26 04:22:04 PM  
Most old Macs still run fine, simply because the software they use doesn't require much power to run. PC's keep getting outdated because PC software keeps pushing the envelope for performance. Think of it as the difference between a subcompact and a heavy duty pickup. Both will get you to where you're going in roughly the same amount of time, but the truck will carry a hell of a lot more weight than the subcompact.
 
2005-08-26 04:23:02 PM  
Apple science sounds like apple sauce. I love apple sauce. Ann Coulter, shemale and PC user, hates apple sauce.
 
2005-08-26 04:24:54 PM  
Theaetetus,

an apple website designed to market an apple product towards scientists is NOT proof that more scientists use macs.
 
2005-08-26 04:25:31 PM  
DixieFlatline010: Most old Macs still run fine, simply because the software they use doesn't require much power to run. PC's keep getting outdated because PC software keeps pushing the envelope for performance. Think of it as the difference between a subcompact and a heavy duty pickup. Both will get you to where you're going in roughly the same amount of time, but the truck will carry a hell of a lot more weight than the subcompact.

I think your metaphor is off, since the subcompact is usually cheaper than the truck. Also, a dual G5 will sure "carry a lot of weight".
Try this - Macs are like Jaguars. They're pretty, but expensive. They will continue to run great for a long time, and have resale value years later.
PCs are like "generic domestic sedan". They're cheap, you can find parts for them everywhere, but they're worth 20% less the moment you drive them off the lot, and go downhill from there.
 
2005-08-26 04:26:34 PM  
"we were pretty much giving away garbage"

Take out the "pretty much" part and then I'll agree with that statement.
 
2005-08-26 04:26:51 PM  
I can't find any flame war value here.

I'm inclined to think the immense difference in market volume has a bit to do with this, as well as the rapid refresh cycle for new generations on the PC side. Regardless of your preference the iBook stands apart from the crowd in laptops and is bound to be attractive if it turns up for $50. Finding blowout sales on PC laptops doesn't take much effort.

I'm a PC user but I'd jump at the chance to get ahold of a usable OS X machine for that price just to increase my skill range for jobs. Buying new hardware just isn't affordable. Even the Mac Mini comes in with a fairly high tag compared to a cheap PC after you've added all the bits to make it usable. Then there is the matter of finding room to set up another workstation or finding PC/Mac compatible KVM solution. So a used OS X capble laptop for cheap would get my attention just as an educational investment.
 
2005-08-26 04:28:19 PM  
I heard Pat Robertson has called for the assassination of Mac users....

/just hearin
//sarcasm resources depleted for the week
 
2005-08-26 04:29:36 PM  
Wilsonics - after a ram upgrade, ran like a delight.

...afternoon delight?
 
2005-08-26 04:29:44 PM  
Theaetetus

Wow, that's great that Apple has a "Science" section on their website, and there's science software available for the Mac, but do you have any proof that more biologists and geneticists are Mac people? You know, the question I originally asked? I couldn't find any hard stats on the page you linked.
 
2005-08-26 04:30:22 PM  
DixieFlatline010nailed it; A Mac is easily timeless in comparison to a PC, because PC's evolve faster. Macs evolve too, but in terms of interface, usability, speed, they all appear to be about the same once you get into the iMac era.

PC's, on the other hand, are an example of evolution gone apeshiat.
 
2005-08-26 04:30:23 PM  
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2005-08-26 04:30:36 PM  
Theaetetus

my friend's dad is a professor and internationally known top researcher at Vanderbilt, they buy up macs very quickly at the rate people buy milk

unfortunately, have yet to step foot in their department (cancer research)
 
2005-08-26 04:31:30 PM  
"which I gave to my sister and my mom. One is 4 years old, and the other 8"

your mom is 8?
 
2005-08-26 04:31:43 PM  
DixieFlatline010:

Think of it as the difference between a subcompact and a heavy duty pickup. Both will get you to where you're going in roughly the same amount of time, but the truck will carry a hell of a lot more weight than the subcompact.

Good analogy. I have to add that for all the times you just drive by yourself you'r better off in a subcompact since. Unless your one of those people who have to be 5 feet above everyone else so you can see why traffic is so slow.
 
2005-08-26 04:31:58 PM  
Being a part time IT guy in the graphics field, that is littered with both Macs and PCs, I can say they both are a pain in the arse.

The biggest problem on the Macs is OS 9 to OS X upgrading. Large companies like mine don't like the idea of buying all new software. It's the equivalent of going from DOS to NT. So we are stuck somewhere in the middle with half the machines in OS X and the other half in OS 9. It's a whole lot of fun.

The other problem with OS X was how many years it took software vendors to write stable OS X native programs. That alone set us back for years. Don't even get me going on fonts.

OS X is a good operating system, but I think it's funny that we are back to file extensions on the Mac. Oh yeah, all of the forward slashes play with OS X's mind, so when the OS 9 users name their files "image.person/house..fine.tiffeps" It's a real hoot.
 
2005-08-26 04:32:18 PM  
LOL! Funny headline. Just upgraded my moms Mac to 10.2. Its my old G3 300 desktop machine. I threw another HD in the box, put in a 2 port USB card and blamo. Too bad I cant install 10.3 on it. Pretty slow, but I wanted her to use iPhoto since the software that came with her Nikon camera sucks all amounts of ass. Other than that, machine runs great for basic duties and its almost 10 years old. Our PC here at work is upgraded all the time and it still sucks ass. I'm happy though. Dual 800 G4 at home and Dual 2.5 G5 here at work. Just got another 2gb of ram for it in today. YAY! Now I wont have slowdowns when I have the entire Creative Suite open, with Quark 5 (in classic) and 6 in OSX along with a ton of other programs and about 20 different docs open in InDesign.
 
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