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2005-08-24 11:51:39 AM  
Is it true that Bush has not attended a single soldier's funeral since the invasion began?
 
2005-08-24 11:52:48 AM  
Mugato, I would like to buy your rock.

/pulling canadian fifties outta wallet
//$12 american ok? And it keeps tigers AWAY, right?
 
2005-08-24 11:53:06 AM  
pontechango: "Oh, didn't you know? That's why we invaded Iraq."

Isn't it ironic that this is perhaps the only 100% positive outcome of the invasion, and nobody ever mentions it?
 
2005-08-24 11:53:13 AM  
2005-08-24 11:51:39 AM Alexandra

Is it true that Bush has not attended a single soldier's funeral since the invasion began?


Yes.

**AND HE EATS BABIES! OMG!!!11~!WTF!!W3'R3ALLGONNADIE!
 
2005-08-24 11:53:17 AM  
lilplatinum

We invaded everywhere else? Sri Lanka? Micronesia? Liechenstein??

I say we take Canada. They've got huuuuuuge... tracts of land!

/silly interlude
 
2005-08-24 11:53:30 AM  
It's a shame that he won't be able to read it... I imagine the writing of children will be a little beyond him...

N.
 
2005-08-24 11:53:33 AM  
canyoneer

Look.


All I'm saying is that if Bush wanted to restore that marsh and bring back the reed warblers then he should have stated that as the reason for the invasion...hell, I probably would have supported it.
However, you hold that article up and say "thanks, bush" like you don't expect the wildlife to be covered in petroleum in six months...
 
2005-08-24 11:54:26 AM  
Emcee_Squared:

Because affirmitive action is so "right" after all, because it makes up for past inequities - such as this one!

Please try to get of your boner about that tired old issue and stay on topic. This PSA is brought to you by the Helen Reddy Foundation. (Watch me Roar):P
 
2005-08-24 11:54:28 AM  
Dear Mr. President,
can you put out some mix tapes like Osama Bin Laden?
His are cool, but I'm sure yours would be better.

Elmo
 
2005-08-24 11:54:48 AM  
DaveDawg2000: How many other presidents started a war of this fiscal magnitude?

Of this fiscal magnitude? WTF? I'm glad that money is so important to you. Who cares what it farking costs? Dollars are cheap. Lives are expensive.

I've served in the military and so has my dad and my grandfather. I'd be very proud and happy if my son or daughter decided to join when they grew up. If and when they do, I hope that any conflict that they get sent to has as much honor and purpose as this war. It happens to be the only armed conflict that the US has been involved in since Korea that has been carried out for a noble purpose.

Rather than sitting there and whining about how horrible Pres. Bush and the republicans are, why don't you pick up a gun and go stand a post? Educate yourself to history and get involved politically. Or is it just easier to comdemn other people from your comfy computer chair?
 
2005-08-24 11:55:10 AM  
scooby111 -

"Farking troll. I'm sure he knows since he's visited with each and every family that has lost a son or daughter in this war. It's a damn sight better than any previous president has ever done."

Please show me something that backs up that statement.
 
2005-08-24 11:55:12 AM  
DaveDawg2000

If you're not using FireFox at present, you deserve to be flogged.

I'm using Mozilla. Can I get that flogging with a wet noodle?

/more silliness
//hand-codes html, cuz he can, dammit
 
2005-08-24 11:55:53 AM  
word up

[image from soul2k.com too old to be available]

/kick me in the nuts, will ya?
 
2005-08-24 11:55:58 AM  
scooby111

"I'm sure he knows since he's visited with each and every family that has lost a son or daughter in this war." No he hasn't. Where the fark did you dig up this utter bullshiat propaganda? Farking idiot.
 
2005-08-24 11:56:15 AM  
harryjrf:
One second while I update my checklist
- Use of word "quagmire" with regard to Iraq operations... check
- Use of "not getting enough armor" complaint... check


All updated? Good.
Why the checklist? I make no secret of my Jeffersonian Republican political leanings, my fiscal conservatism, and my social-libertarian beliefs. And is "quagmire" suddenly a dirty word?

I questioned whether they were unhappy to the point of staging demonstrations of any kind. If not, they could still be unhappy with what's going on, but not to a degree that they're actively complaining about it. And think about it: they have their lives on the line over there. I'd think they'd speak up if they thought it was a crock.

Did you miss the whole Specialist Anderson bit? He says "wherez our armor, Rummy!" and everyone applauds and cheers. That kinda sounds like a demonstration of a sort or at least "actively complaining".
Nonetheless, I'm not surprised that there's been only one case of large-scale mutiny (a whole unit at once). The army is based on discipline, and it would take a large number of highly incompetant sergeants, lieutenants, and captains to allow that to happen more than once.
 
2005-08-24 11:56:56 AM  
harryjrf
I say we take Canada. They've got huuuuuuge... tracts of land!

/silly interlude


They said I was daft to build a castle in Quebec, but I built it all the same, just to show 'em. It sank into the french. So, I built a second one. That sank into the french. So, I built a third one. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the french, but the fourth one... stayed up! And that's what you're gonna get, lad: the strongest castle in Canada.
 
2005-08-24 11:57:35 AM  
So, pointless speculation is irrelevant.

Pointless speculation is pointless. The observable is phenomenal.
 
2005-08-24 11:58:21 AM  
Winston Smith Junior: douchebags.


What is this fetish you have with the "douchebag" word?
 
2005-08-24 11:58:33 AM  
DaveDawg2000:
How many other presidents started a war of this fiscal magnitude?

In all fairness, come on - wars are expensive now.

150 years ago all you needed was a musket and a wool uniform. Now these spoiled brats want Body Armor, Hummers, Thermal Optics, Radios, Assault Rifles... Kids these days.
 
2005-08-24 11:59:23 AM  
You rock SherKhan!
 
2005-08-24 12:00:56 PM  
Theaetetus

Aw, I can't handle the flava!

It isnt just his generals though. The entire executive pitches their opinions. Thats the second part of the 1st clause.

Is he screwing it up? Could be. Then again, I hope, crossing my fingers, he isn't stupid enough to try to direct war from wherever he is today.

Good point regarding Massachusettes.

Aw, can't it be both?
Yes, Congress and the Senate got us into the war. But now the war is being executed poorly too. That means both branches have failed.


Yes, it could be both. Im of the mind, though, to agree with the wise Bob Goldthwait, when he said "blaming the president when things go wrong is like blaming Ronald McDonald when you get a bad cheeseburger." Whenever the government does something stupid, I dont think of Bush or activist judges or PNAC; I think about congress.

What can I say? I just don't like 'em. That is a beat ya can't touch!

However, I will stipulate that I think acting appropriately on intelligence that turned out to be faulty is more of an error of investigation than an error of judgement. Had the intelligence been true, there would have possibly been enough justification to go to war.

But does that error if investigation extend to Bush?

I'm not sure that anywhere in there says that they can decide when a war ends, once declared. There's nothing about "declaring a cesation of hostilities" or the like.

War is supposed to be decided on by congress, and the president oversees its prosecution. If a war ends, and hostilities end, then could it be joint, since it requires a treaty? You got me there too. I figured they control war - wasnt it congress who stopped gulf war 1? That's interpretive dance, brother. At this point, I know I've been served.
 
2005-08-24 12:03:13 PM  
Winston Smith Junior


2005-08-24 11:51:39 AM Alexandra

Is it true that Bush has not attended a single soldier's funeral since the invasion began?


Yes.

**AND HE EATS BABIES! OMG!!!11~!WTF!!W3'R3ALLGONNADIE!


Well shoot, you'd think he could take some time out of his oh-so-busy schedule to attend at least a few of those several thousand funerals!
 
2005-08-24 12:03:47 PM  
smeegle What is this fetish you have with the "douchebag" word?

He thinks it makes him sound tough
 
2005-08-24 12:04:13 PM  
Winston Smith Junior

I guess I was a bit off on the character portrait. You see, Gradgrind's insults were pointed and at least somewhat clever.

Unfortunately, I've got to go do something a lot less fun then fishing. Enjoy your lunch, and try not to take the internet so seriously.
 
2005-08-24 12:05:05 PM  
canyoneer:

Isn't it ironic that this is perhaps the only 100% positive outcome of the invasion, and nobody ever mentions it?

I'm thinking about taking a new angle to arguing about the Iraq War with the pseudoconservative Bush legion. Instead of taking umbrage at their anti-American accusations, I will embrace them. They're right. DOWN WITH AMERICA! May the capitalist pig infidels burn in hell. And the best part is, I get to be pro-Iraq War! The war in Iraq is creating a historically unprecedented wave of terrorist attacks and new generation of martyrs to attack and kill Americans and their allies. The war in Iraq gives power to Iran to control the future of Iraq. The war in Iraq is corrupting politicians, corporations and dividing the American public against itself. The war in Iraq is hemorraging funds from the American taxpayers like the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The war in Iraq will hasten the downfall of the evil American empire!

F*CK THE TROOPS, SUPPORT THE WAR
 
2005-08-24 12:06:17 PM  
DaveDawg2000: Get the FarkTags extension for FireFox. If you're not using FireFox at present, you deserve to be flogged.


clever monkey
 
2005-08-24 12:07:13 PM  
lilplatinum
So you have to have 1st hand experience to talk about a concept?

It helps... Would you advise a pregnant woman of what she's feeling? Would you be a single marriage counselor?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not in complete disagreement with you, just that you tend to over-generalize with statements like "I think the war sucks, they still signed up for it". Some did, others were already in and willing to fight a just war which, and I know you agree, Iraq is not.
 
2005-08-24 12:07:19 PM  
pontechango
The war in Iraq is hemorraging funds from the American taxpayers like the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan hemmoraged funds from the American taxpayers?

/knows he is posting too much
//too much time on hands today at work
 
2005-08-24 12:09:57 PM  
Theaetetus

And is "quagmire" suddenly a dirty word?

No, just overused and inaccurate. Last I checked, progress is still being made. Just because it doesn't happen overnight doesn't mean things are moving well.

Did you miss the whole Specialist Anderson bit? He says "wherez our armor, Rummy!" and everyone applauds and cheers. That kinda sounds like a demonstration of a sort or at least "actively complaining".

*cough*props*cough*

What's the current situation on armor, since you seem to have an interest in this area?

And although it was some form of complaint, I didn't hear them say "get us out of here, we shouldn't be here" etc.

Nonetheless, I'm not surprised that there's been only one case of large-scale mutiny (a whole unit at once). The army is based on discipline, and it would take a large number of highly incompetant sergeants, lieutenants, and captains to allow that to happen more than once.

So, the reason we don't see protest to our being there is because they're forced to keep silent due to their "discipline". My point is that if things were as bad as some people lead us to believe, that discipline would probably not hold for long. And they've been over there... what, at least two years?

Going off on another tangent, I wonder if there's any word of good things happening in Iraq?
 
2005-08-24 12:10:57 PM  
harry

I could counter by saying "This will lay the ground for a peaceful Iraq, if not the entire Middle East" Which of us is right? When will we know? Probably not for at least another 2-5 years. So, pointless speculation is irrelevant.

FYI, we're already in our third year of this. The troops were supposed to be out by now. Well, except for the ones constructing and stationed at the permanent bases. But you need another 2 years and what, 2,000 more kids for you to see that a country that was gonna be peaceful right after we deposed their dictator, still isn't peaceful? And what then when it isn't? Another 3 years? That's exactly why this gets compared to Vietnam and appropriately so.

I heard an excellent point made by someone else: why is everyone worried about "destabilizing" the Middle East? Was it stable before?! We are still having problems with the Israelis and Palestinians, and that's been going on for HOW long?!

Two things: one, for your point of view, the energy that powers the US war machine that apparently infatuates you, is there. Two, the destabilization of the ME is of considerably less importance than the thousands of innocent people that have been killed by my government, that's my primary problem, not political stabilization.

And the evidence of civil war breaking out? If you have none, I suggest you turn in your crystal ball before you drop it on your foot.

1. That Iraqi policeman and Army are targeted more than US forces
2. Mass executions of Sunni Tribesman
3. Mass executions of Shia in retaliation
4. Assasinations of local and regional religious leaders, all sects
5. The Kurds continue to demand effective autonomy and still want their own state.
6. Sunnis want the same deal as the Kurds
7. But the Shia are in charge and aren't going to give that to either.

There's a quick 7. I don't claim to have a crystal ball, just a grip on reality.
 
2005-08-24 12:11:46 PM  
sorry i didn't get in on this at the beginning but the other thread i was in about monkey society took the wind outta my sails for a day or so.

sorry i can't wow you all today.

btw alexandra it's sorta refreshing to see a conservative christian who doesn't like bush either. i'm not sure why you've decided to be that way, but i think its rather telling that people on both side of the barbedwire fence can see who's bush's real god is. $$$$$

P.s. good job not rising to the bait earlier. If I were in a different mood I'd debate religion but I don't really feel like it. This isn't the right thread anyhow. ;)
 
2005-08-24 12:11:58 PM  
I can't be the only person who saw this link
Women's Brains Really Are Blown By Orgasms - Yahoo! UK & Ireland News

That is great

/wants to be used in future studies
 
2005-08-24 12:12:39 PM  
Here's a T-shirt my mother was telling me about:

[image from prodtn.cafepress.com too old to be available]
 
2005-08-24 12:13:21 PM  
Alexandra

Well shoot, you'd think he could take some time out of his oh-so-busy schedule to attend at least a few of those several thousand funerals!

Sorry to interject, but I wanted to say something here: if he attends one, he can't show favoritism, so he's gotta attend them all. I don't think that's a good idea, given the average time for a funeral and the number of funerals he'd have to attend, plus his normal overflowing schedule. At best, he can attend one all-encompasing ceremony, but that's a bad idea when we're still over there, don't you think?
 
2005-08-24 12:13:27 PM  
lilplatinum

You know what I meant, you infidel pig. Now GBTW and don't ever come back to Fark with questions about your government's self-destructive policies. GOD IS GREAT!
 
2005-08-24 12:14:28 PM  
harryjrf
And is "quagmire" suddenly a dirty word?

No, just overused and inaccurate.


quagmire ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kwgmr, kwg-)
n.

1. Land with a soft muddy surface.
2. A difficult or precarious situation; a predicament.

Hmm, the 2nd definition seems pretty accurate to me...
 
2005-08-24 12:15:43 PM  
Iraq reward for punish bent
Beats Iraqi punishment
Though oe'er most heads my pun *swish* went
It's nice iced one got what I meant.
 
2005-08-24 12:16:02 PM  
harryjrf -

"Sorry to interject, but I wanted to say something here: if he attends one, he can't show favoritism, so he's gotta attend them all. I don't think that's a good idea, given the average time for a funeral and the number of funerals he'd have to attend, plus his normal overflowing schedule. At best, he can attend one all-encompasing ceremony, but that's a bad idea when we're still over there, don't you think?"

Well, 2 things, number one, doesn't it say alot that there are a few thousand funerals, when we aren't even in a war? Second, I believe that the LEAST that Bush can do is to show these families that their son/daughter did not die for nothing....and at this point, he has not even done that.
 
2005-08-24 12:18:08 PM  
sheikah
btw alexandra it's sorta refreshing to see a conservative christian who doesn't like bush either. i'm not sure why you've decided to be that way, but i think its rather telling that people on both side of the barbedwire fence can see who's bush's real god is. $$$$$


Well, it's like this: Christians are supposed to be fruit inspectors (of a sort), and most of us fell asleep on the job when it came to Bush.

When you look at Bush's actions and line it up with what the Bible teaches, an alarm should be going off in your head, especially if you profess to be a Christian.

Unfortunately, most professing Christians can't be bothered to crack open a Bible, and they easily get taken in by a snake oil salesman who claims he's a Christian. Bush tells them what they want to hear, and they don't bother to call him on anything.

I also believe that those we elect are not above the law--the Constitution is supposed to be a leash around their necks, and the people are supposed to be holding the leash.
 
2005-08-24 12:19:02 PM  
Clever Neologism

Ya just like a Bayonet is called a "utility Knife" now.
 
2005-08-24 12:20:30 PM  
Alexandra:

When you look at Bush's actions and line it up with what the Bible teaches, an alarm should be going off in your head, especially if you profess to be a Christian.

You know, I think I read something about helping the poor in the Bible once.
 
2005-08-24 12:21:34 PM  
Dennis_Moore: "Look. All I'm saying is that if Bush wanted to restore that marsh and bring back the reed warblers then he should have stated that as the reason for the invasion...hell, I probably would have supported it. However, you hold that article up and say 'thanks, bush' like you don't expect the wildlife to be covered in petroleum in six months..."

Actually, I expect the war to widen drastically in the next five-to-ten years. I expect the Persians and the Arabians and the Syrians and the Turks and Kurds to go at it hammer-and-tongs. I expect the dams along the Upper Euphrates and Tigris Rivers to be bombed during the coming wider war. I expect that the Marsh Arabs, who mostly abandoned their ancient homeland after Hussein drained the marshes, will never return. I expect a drastically depopulated Mesopotamia to be naturally re-wilded in due course. That the earthworks which drained these marshes are being deconstructed is a good thing, and I expect it to be permanent. I expect that the aftermath of the coming wider war will leave nobody in the region in a position to undertake such giant destructive industrial projects for a very long time, if ever.
-----------------------------------------------------------
pontechango: "The war in Iraq will hasten the downfall of the evil American empire! F*CK THE TROOPS, SUPPORT THE WAR"

This was always a very strong possibility, and if you'll recall, was one of my key arguments against the war back in the Winter of '02-'03. The danger was always that unless the U.S. was 100% successful in Iraq (and beyond), it would backfire in a very, very nasty way. The uncertainties and potential downsides were always vast. Unfortunately, I expect that is exactly what will indeed happen.
 
2005-08-24 12:21:46 PM  
ecollier

I can't be the only person who saw this link
Women's Brains Really Are Blown By Orgasms - Yahoo! UK & Ireland News

From Article:

Since it was vital to remain completely still in the scanner, volunteers had to have their heads restrained while being stimulated. The rest of the body was free to move. Participants lay naked on a table with their head inside the scanner - but had to wear socks to avoid cold feet.


Worst. Sex. Ever. Quickly followed by the worst pun ever.


And there could be a connection with the aphrodisiac effect of alcohol.

"Alcohol brings down the fear level," said Dr Holstege. "Everyone knows if you give alcohol to a woman it makes things easier."


BRILLIANT!
 
2005-08-24 12:22:17 PM  
Alexandra

Hear hear. I assume you voted? Who did you vote for the first time and the second time? (I am of the opinion that Bush cheated both times, but that's another flamewar...) Were you a bush supporter before he was in office? Or were you relativly impartial until you watched and observed?

Wow. I'm having a conversation of a non-flame nature with someone on the opposite end of the spiritual spectrum than I am. Alert the media (or at least my friends...)
 
2005-08-24 12:22:44 PM  
Really guys, how long are we gonna come on here and say the same thing over and over to the same people?

/guilty too sometimes
 
2005-08-24 12:23:02 PM  
pontechango

That's what charities are for. Not taxpayers' money.
 
2005-08-24 12:23:06 PM  
danlpoon


They tried that...they lost...get over it.

WinstonIf you think the current administration stands for Republican values, or even conservative values, I invite you to lick the salty emminations from my taint and wash it down with my mysteriously viscous and chunky post-digestion coffee. You are a digrace to Republicans and I question your patriotism.


Jeez, can you at least be a little bit more specific about the "mysteriously viscous and chunky" part. Just cause, you know, I'm about to have my coffee.
 
2005-08-24 12:23:14 PM  
if he attends one, he can't show favoritism, so he's gotta attend them all

i hope this isn't true. i don't think we can afford to invade every country.
 
2005-08-24 12:24:31 PM  
Legalize It

FYI, we're already in our third year of this. The troops were supposed to be out by now.

Wait, according to WHO? (Or is it whom? Not very strong in grammar...)

But you need another 2 years and what, 2,000 more kids for you to see that a country that was gonna be peaceful right after we deposed their dictator, still isn't peaceful? And what then when it isn't? Another 3 years? That's exactly why this gets compared to Vietnam and appropriately so.

For heaven's sake, they're re-doing their government! Did you expect it to be SIMPLE? You'd be more simple-minded than me if you did. I don't think ANYONE thought it would be as simple as taking out Saddam and then saying "OK, go for it". They didn't have any time to prepare; Saddam wouldn't hear of it, oddly enough.

And you need more than one thread of comparison to convince me this is just like Vietnam.

Two things: one, for your point of view, the energy that powers the US war machine that apparently infatuates you, is there.

I had trouble translating this sentence into English, but I think you're assigning opinions to me that I have not expressed. I especially like the phrase "war machine". That's on my checklist, albeit way at the bottom.

Two, the destabilization of the ME is of considerably less importance than the thousands of innocent people that have been killed by my government, that's my primary problem, not political stabilization.

Right, we'll just re-install Saddam then.

1. That Iraqi policeman and Army are targeted more than US forces
2. Mass executions of Sunni Tribesman
3. Mass executions of Shia in retaliation
4. Assasinations of local and regional religious leaders, all sects
5. The Kurds continue to demand effective autonomy and still want their own state.
6. Sunnis want the same deal as the Kurds
7. But the Shia are in charge and aren't going to give that to either.

There's a quick 7.


Thanks. No sources, I see. I'll just take your word for it. You could at least quantify "mass executions", and when these executions took place.

Don't forget: terrorists have decided to enter the country to try to destabilize it. You can't pin this on Iraqis; these are foreigners attacking, so it's not a civil war.

I don't claim to have a crystal ball, just a grip on reality.

I'm not sure which of us has the weaker grip.
 
2005-08-24 12:26:15 PM  
When you look at Bush's actions and line it up with what the Bible teaches, an alarm should be going off in your head, especially if you profess to be a Christian.

1 John 2:4
 
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