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(WPVI)   Malaysia will start hiding speed cameras in the cat's eye reflectors on the dividing line of the highways   (abclocal.go.com) divider line 45
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2005-08-23 05:00:46 PM  
That's nothing. In Singapore, every car has a little light on it. If you're speeding, the light starts flashing, making it easy for the cops to ticket you. Nobody speeds. Ever.
 
2005-08-23 05:14:51 PM  
I think the Fark headline was longer than the article -- with more detail, and more cohesive.

police are asking people to upload photographs taken with digital cameras or camera phones showing motorists violating traffic rules

What could possibly go wrong?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2005-08-23 06:18:54 PM  
Last year I visited the web site of a company that makes these. It may be http://www.astuciausa.com/. I can't find the speed devices on there now.

Scary stuff.

Countries face the dilemma of being able to enforce speed limits in different ways. Some -- Australia, New Zealand, Malaysia -- decide that the government is in charge and the people will do what they are told. Others -- Canada, United States -- scale back automated enforcement to a level that the people will tolerate. In Hawaii the government was forced to raise speed limits sightly in addition to giving up photo radar. Compliance probably increased from 10% to 30% due to the higher limit. Obviously that's a catastrophe for the government -- one fifth of the population is no longer being ordered to change its behavior.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2005-08-23 06:29:29 PM  
I had the right company but the wrong country. They aren't advertising Big Brother-ware in the US. So check out their UK site for the spy device which "may sound like the stuff of science fiction but is an extremely effective tool of traffic management." http://www.astucia.co.uk/ (main page), http://www.astucia.co.uk/catalog_product.aspx?prod_id=32 (speed detector with number plate recognition)
 
2005-08-23 09:47:39 PM  
Bah, I can see a bunch of redneck Malaysians shooting these things with guns or dumping cow poop on them...
/ Going to send them some goose poop tomorrow...
 
2005-08-23 09:48:50 PM  
Haha Yah but funny snahmcnah?
 
2005-08-23 09:52:56 PM  
In the part of Australia I'm from you can get fined for driving 3kph (<2mph) over the speed limit. And the speed limits are extremely slow already. 50kph in residential streets. 60kph in most main roads. 80 on most divided roads (70 or even 60 on some!). freeways and highways 100kph or 110 in the middle of nowhere. You try and stick to those limits.
 
2005-08-23 09:53:29 PM  
snahmcnah?
 
2005-08-23 09:56:09 PM  
Compared to the cameras mounted in each citizens living room, bedroom and bathroom, this minor intrusion will hardly be noticed.
 
2005-08-23 09:58:14 PM  
I'm surprised they even have roads in Malaysia.
 
2005-08-23 10:04:29 PM  
you, don't mix up malaysia with singapore.

and you, don't mix up malaysia with indonesia or phillipines.
 
2005-08-23 10:05:27 PM  
You know, living in Lexington, if it meant we'd actually get reflectors and visible lanes, it'd be a tough call.

/Not really, I'd lose my license in a weeks time.
 
2005-08-23 10:06:39 PM  
Boy, I'm glad my country doesn't employ ubiquitous, automatic, and virtually uncontestable enforcement and punishment for victimless crimes. Oh, wait...
 
2005-08-23 10:06:42 PM  
twoody
That's nothing. In Singapore, every car has a little light on it. If you're speeding, the light starts flashing, making it easy for the cops to ticket you. Nobody speeds. Ever.

Believe me, they speed in Singapore too - so stop making stuff like that up. You're giving traffic cops the world over wet dreams.

If we ever hear about some over-zealous lawmakers bringing out little lights on cars, we're blaming you :)
 
2005-08-23 10:07:01 PM  
twoody:

That's nothing. In Singapore, every car has a little light on it. If you're speeding, the light starts flashing, making it easy for the cops to ticket you. Nobody speeds. Ever.

Is that for real? Do they at least have reasonable speed limits, unlike the United States?
 
2005-08-23 10:10:07 PM  
sounds fantastic
hey
when they gonna start hiding food in starving kid's stomachs?
that'll be a neat trick too
 
2005-08-23 10:13:43 PM  
You can actually speed on a moped?
 
2005-08-23 10:15:09 PM  
"You're giving traffic cops the world over wet dreams."

I beg to differ.

Let's assume that the police do step up enforcement and catch way more people than they do now.

That will lead to one of two outcomes:

1. People stop speeding.

As a result, the police lose all that income they've come to rely on by "taxing" speeders.


2. People force the lawmakers to raise the speed limits.

People will do this because now instead of getting maybe one ticket a year or less, they'll actually be affected by the law on a regular basis or have freinds affected by it on a regular basis, and will finally get it in their heads to rebel against it.

And this will have the same effect, the income the police take in will be less, because now the speed limits are set to a reasonable level.
 
2005-08-23 10:17:07 PM  
WearTheFoxHat: You can actually speed on a moped?


You can, but you have to be going downhill with a fat person in tow.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2005-08-23 10:17:18 PM  
Police patrol officers want the opportunity to ticket anyone. They do not want the duty to ticket everyone.
 
2005-08-23 10:20:15 PM  
sounds fantastic
hey
when they gonna start hiding food in starving kid's stomachs?
that'll be a neat trick too
 
2005-08-23 10:33:53 PM  
twoody
That's nothing. In Singapore, every car has a little light on it. If you're speeding, the light starts flashing, making it easy for the cops to ticket you. Nobody speeds. Ever.


Nope.
Some taxicabs have a light on the dash that flashes if you are over the speed limit. It's installed by the taxi company and has nothing to do with the cops.

sorry, thanks for playing.
 
2005-08-23 10:34:17 PM  
Speeding fines/cameras - yet another reason to fly to work.
 
2005-08-23 10:38:38 PM  
Wow. That was some pwnage neoethos. Well played.
 
2005-08-23 10:39:33 PM  
moltov

You're ignorant. Malaysia is one of the most modern and wealthiest countries in Asia with $10,000 per capita (higher than Mexico's), and is positioning itself to become a major technology hub in the upcoming years. And it also has the world's second-tallest buildings.



I recently took a road trip up and down the eastern coast of Malaysia many times and explored the jungles of Borneo to climb Mount Kinabalu - absolutely amazing country, probably the best to visit in SE Asia.
 
2005-08-23 10:46:51 PM  
^

Put that DOWN! You could put someone's eye out with that thing.
 
2005-08-23 10:48:56 PM  
neoethos
Nope.
Some taxicabs have a light on the dash that flashes if you are over the speed limit. It's installed by the taxi company and has nothing to do with the cops.

sorry, thanks for playing.


A lot of the taxis there have a chime that performs the same function. I've yet to take a trip in from Changi without a good ten minutes of constant ringing as the cabs speed down the east coast freeway.
 
2005-08-23 10:55:03 PM  
It will never happen. They can't afford it. This is the same country where they have people starving in the streets.
 
2005-08-23 10:55:50 PM  
moltov
I'm surprised they even have roads in Malaysia.


Roads yes. Drivers obeying traffic laws no. If there is an inch between you and another car in one of the daily Kuala Lumpur jams, there's 5 other cars trying to squeeze into it. From 5 lanes over.
 
BHK
2005-08-23 11:01:10 PM  
This is great for anyone who might even look like a drug dealer as well. Now if they speed, they get an automated ticket - no worries about getting pulled over and searched.
Government likes this sort of thing, but I'm not sure the police do.
 
2005-08-23 11:06:52 PM  
darth_shatner
I've yet to take a trip in from Changi without a good ten minutes of constant ringing as the cabs speed down the east coast freeway


No kidding. It's usually the crappiest taxi that has it and the driver, 40kph over the limit, pays absolutely no attention to it at all.
 
2005-08-23 11:07:55 PM  
BHK: This is great for anyone who might even look like a drug dealer as well.


unless you know your rights and don't let the abusive cops attack you by doing a search without just or reasonable cause..... people are frightened of the police. because the police are a lawless gang that does not have to comply with everyone elses laws...

i trust a biker more than i do a cop..
 
2005-08-23 11:16:21 PM  
Fark me, I was just driving home down Carlton, and I zipped through Broadway when *flash* I think I got a ticket. Stupid-ass intersection. That's #3 for me in the same spot THIS YEAR; I haven't killed anyone driving the way I do, so until then, I'll continue to think it's a cash grab.

/sore loser
 
2005-08-23 11:47:47 PM  
Must... not... post... Dilbert Hole "Asians"... strip...
 
2005-08-24 12:04:02 AM  
orrinbloquy, post it!

/Boyfriend is Malaysian, I want reasons to pick on him ;)
 
2005-08-24 12:04:02 AM  
Yeah because "speeding" kills...not.

Hey here's an idea. Let's drop the speed limit down to 21 and raise the drinking age to 55. That way only the most mature of people can knock back a brew after work, and everyone's going so slow nobody can ever get anywhere, nevermind go fast enough to hurt someone.

More government, yeah, that's ALWAYS the answer.
 
2005-08-24 12:20:38 AM  
2005-08-23 05:00:46 PM twoody [TotalFark]
That's nothing. In Singapore, every car has a little light on it. If you're speeding, the light starts flashing, making it easy for the cops to ticket you. Nobody speeds. Ever.


can't find it in my car... where's the damned flashing light?

/Singaporean
//speeds regularly
 
2005-08-24 12:25:44 AM  
2005-08-24 12:04:02 AM annoyed_grunt

Yeah because "speeding" kills...not.


Speeding does not kill, it is the violent stops which kill.
 
2005-08-24 02:50:30 AM  


/you show me a "traffic camera for safety"
//and I'll show you an automatic revenue machine
 
2005-08-24 07:44:04 AM  


That's how we deal with traffic cameras in the UK and in the NL.
 
2005-08-24 08:02:12 AM  
ZAZ

Interesting; GPRS, eh?

Every problem has some solution

To be specific

And here

There also seem to be cell phone detectors out there, not that I would ever advocate the use of modern technology to evade modern technology.
 
2005-08-24 09:20:08 AM  
moltov
I'm surprised they even have roads in Malaysia.

Roads yes. Drivers obeying traffic laws no. If there is an inch between you and another car in one of the daily Kuala Lumpur jams, there's 5 other cars trying to squeeze into it. From 5 lanes over.



Yup, I remember in 1976, watching five lanes of traffic form in one direction (on a two way street).
The topper was the bus passing all of them on the opposite shoulder.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2005-08-24 09:22:05 AM  
Was Malaysia the country where a minister was caught speeding and launched a popular movement to have the speed limit raised, only to be defeated at the last minute by some other minister who decided that it was better to have everybody over the speed limit?
 
2005-08-24 09:27:27 AM  
Briefcase Nuke: I zipped through Broadway when *flash*

Yeah, but that's not a radar camera, it's a red light camera.
You're running red lights (ticket from the same one 3 times), and figgure that's a good thing?
What's left of my previous car would like to have words with you.

/I liked that car, too. Damned asshat red-light runner trashed the entire left side of the car. Good thing I didn't have my kid in the car at the time.
 
2005-08-24 11:52:05 AM  
kent_eh
You're running red lights (ticket from the same one 3 times), and figgure that's a good thing?

There are red lights, and then there are red lights. Popping through a red light late at night when you have good visibility all around and there is no traffic is one thing. Running a red light during rush hour on blind intersections is another.

I have only intentionally run a red light once in my life. At about 2:00 AM on a Sunday, I needed to make a left hand turn at a major intersection. The arrow for turning left was not timed, but was activited by some kind of sensor. I was on my motorcycle. I sat for a couple of cycles of the main light before I figured it wasn't going to activate. Looked around for traffic (and cops, 'cause I knew I would get a ticket if caught), saw that there wasn't any traffic, and went. Now, if there was a camera at that intersection, I would have gotten a ticket that would have required my presence in court to fight. Even then, depending on how cranky the judge was that day, I still might have had to pay a fine.

So, sometimes running a red light is not the pure evil it might sound.

I sympathize about your car though. My wife's car got crunched by a drunk driver while it was sitting in our driveway. Idiot was speeding, didn't make the corner, gouged out our lawn, and hit my wife's car, throwing it against our house.
 
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