Pullling aside crew for searches for quota? Damn.

you can kill somebody with anything if your creative enough

With a magazine.. Ash the android tried that on Ripley.

That's what you get when you federalize a bunch of high-school dropout morons. Norm Mineta, thanks for NOTHING!!

In his hand was a dagger-sized Statue of Liberty with a knife-sharp torch and crown.

Killed by the Statue of Liberty... hehehe that's a great idea! Thank you on behalf of the International Anti-American Terrorist Organisation !

Drat, they are onto my plan to take over the world armed only with a duck, an armadillo, and a plant!!!

Back to square one again.

Veritas,

If you roll up the magazine tightly into a very small diameter tube, its as strong and rigid as a piece of pipe. One good elbow swing and then contact with the windpipe, or side of the neck by the jugular with the end of the tube will do some nasty damage.

Airport security does still svck. Flying across the continent last week, the only changes I noticed at the security points was that the attenuators on the metal detectors are turned up, and there is more emphasis on screening electronics. Other than that, it does seem to be business as usual. And as RobbieFal said it, if you really want to kill someone, there are lots of ways to do it.

OK, what happens when the Al Queda learn the mystic arts of the ninja? Huh? what are they gonna do? Outlaw hands and feet and ninja masks? Well?

What we need is a guy on the plane that is super paranoid and has a glock loaded with rubber bullets. Duh. That way i can bring my nephew his SAFE-T-CUT scissors that the airlines stole from me.

"I can kill you with a magazine, a soda can, a compact disk, a wine bottle, and a fork."

Who needs any objects to kill? A properly trained professional can kill with his bare hands. I think we should "disarm" everyone before they board airplanes.

They never found me yet (I don't carry weapons, I am one with at least 9 lethal extremities).

And let's not forget about the possibility to open a couple of doors a couple of miles up (great for suicide attacks). Just make sure you get a seat next to an emergency exit and know how to handle it (manual is on the door).

Registered Weapon Even if you count your pecker as a lethal extremity, that's only 6 extremities on your body, by my count. Got a couple of extra arms, do you? And a third leg, maybe?

I don't count my pecker because I don't have one, but I do count elbows and knees (very "handy" at short range).

If this nonsense continues, pretty soon they'll have us walking through airports naked. 99% of the problem is solved when you secure the cockpit.

20/20,
How about suicide pilots? I haven't forgotten Egypt Air yet.

Could get alot worse, the way they are going.

Prisioner Passenger is ready for the flight.

Problem solved?

(Ignore the spelling, and Prisoner should be struck out, but you might get the point reguardless.)

What about suicide pilots? How do you screen for them? And out of hundreds of millions of flights, how many has there been?

20/20,
Including or excluding the Japanese Kamikaze pilots of the WWII?

"Aware that the threat hasn't passed, pilots are pushing for the right to carry guns in the cockpit.

See the reasoning, but, guns in an airliner aren't a good idea regardless of whos hands they are in.

Brisvegas_boy
Guns are just a tool. They would use rubber bullets, or something like that.

Appie: I thought the topic was commercial airline flights.

If that's the case, then Sabu's more homicidal than we all thought.

Mr_a: they were afraid you were going to "kill time".

Baaa ha ha - I'll go away now.

I have somewhat large hands; couldn't I strangle some people on the plane? What about my shoelaces, or the metal thingy on my belt? My keys? Pocket change? Headphones? Those are all potential weapons. And for crissakes, they GIVE you a freaking fork, knife, and magazine. RobbieFal's totally right; with enough ingenuity, and the right amount of force, anything's a lethal weapon. Hell, last year, I brought a Swiss Army knife with me on a flight to Cuba for Spring Break. Okay, it was out of Toronto, but still, I had it in my carry-on. Completely forgot I had it until we were in the airport.

can some1 explain how tweasers could be lethal other then stabbing a person in the eye.

They are trying to give us a false sense of security, when in fact, the Bush Administration cares more about money, than about the our safety. On the original FAA list of items that were to be banned from flights, 2 items were removed, cigarette lighters and matches. they were on the list, and then the tobacco industry found out, and actually lobbied to have the items removed from the list.
The only major incident we have had in the US since 9/11 was the shoe bomber, who tried to light explosives hidden in his shoes. If anything, other than knives and box-cutters, should be banned, it is matches and lighters.
I know it sounds silly, matches and lighters are probably very easy to get on a plane, but you aren't allowed to smoke on the plane anyway.
This just makes it clear that tobacco money is more important than our safety.

InsaneFool, if the tweezers were sharp enough, an attacker could plunge them into the carotid artery in the neck. The victim would bleed to death pretty fast.

"Messina?s "

how do I get a ? mark in my name

thats a good idea..i'll keep it in mind

Be interesting when some pilot/copilot/stewardess brings their own gun on and caps a terrorist/skyjacker etc.

what about sporks, those buggers are pretty friggin' dangerous too. You can't eat food with them, but they could kill a man in a heartbeat...

the question though isn't just "can I kill someone with this", it's also - "how quickly can I kill someone". Whilst you could strangle someone to death - you'd be hard pressed to do so in a crowded plane without getting jumped. However, with a knife to the throat, the premise is that no-one will attack you, as you'll kill your victim before you were subdued.

That aside - it's still all very very silly. Sept 11th worked because no-one expected a suicide attack. In the past a hijacked plane would be taken somewhere, and eventually the passengers would be released. I suspect that the passengers in the WTC and pentagon planes assumed that so long as they remained calm, they would be okay. In the case of the third plane that crashed - the passengers probably knew that wasn't the case, and took on the hijackers.

There was supposed to be a point in there somewhere, only I've forgotten what I was babbling about.

One option... you gotta fly naked.

What's a compact "disk"?

Of course, nowadays, if anyone tried to take a plane, I'd expect at least a couple passengers to try and jump them. I like to think that I would. No offense to the hostage, but it's not too tough a choice-them, or all of us.

Doesn't airline food constitute a deadly weapon? Not much good in combat, but it's pretty awful stuff.

20/20,
Commercial airline flights were indeed implied, nowhere specifically stated. Sorry to keep you waiting so long for a reply, but I have to (pretend to) work every once in a while.

It is actually pretty amazing how easy it is to kill someone
with your bare hands.

Uhm... I think from now on, anyone who tries to take over a plane with a knife, or spoon, or magazine will have to fight off passengers.

People just aren't going to sit tight and take it anymore. They'll just jump up and bum rush the assholes. Better to have a few people die, or the whole plane die, than to let them take the plane into another building.

fnck em in the ear

Sburbncwby: Great flag.

Barkingspider,
I can understand your sentiments regarding airline food, but as far as I know nobody has yet died from it so it is disqualified as deadly. I think it comes under the heading of cruel and unusual punishment for the unforgivable stupidity of flying.

Possum: Do you mean the Leatherman wasn't even detected? Or, it was, they let you keep it, and sent you on your way?

I was flying an average of 1-2 times per month (sometimes more) up until October. I got so fed up with flying that now I drive long distance rather than deal with dumb-dumb weekend warriors questioning me about why I need my PocketPC and GPS with me when I travel. I'm going halfway across the country to areas I'm not native to, duh, and might need to find my way around town? WTF?!

And, most of them have no idea what a PocketPC is and think it's explosives or something assinine like that.

Uncle Sam, get the fark out of my life and go bother some arab. I can't wait until I can get my private pilot certificate and a cheap plane so I can exercise my constitutional right to travel and bring whatever I want wherever I want unbothered by retard "homeland security" fources.

Gee, what the hell would they do to someone who was carring a DVD of Ishtar?