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(Herald Sun)   Rather than giving them to the Palestinians, Israeli bulldozers are leveling Gaza houses   (heraldsun.com) divider line 243
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2005-08-21 08:01:58 PM  
The homes had to be bulldozed for various reasons. Hamas would make outposts out of them. Settlers would come back. It would have cost the Palestinians time and money to knock them down to build apartment-style housing. Knocking them down was in the best interest of all but Hamas and the settlers.

Everyone knows that. Except for the submitter and the admins.

so why did this get posted in this fashion in the first place

A flamewar might not start otherwise. Too many Fark threads a friendly and informative lately.
 
2005-08-21 08:02:54 PM  
It's scarey how some people can rationalize any kind of evil deed, as long it's in the name of their religion.

And isn't it strange how most people describe the 1967 "6 day war" as justified because it was for Israel's self defense. That war began with Israel destroying the Egyptian air force with a sneak attack, and ended with Israel more than DOUBLING its land mass in only 6 days.

I guess Isreal was in imminent danger of being wiped off the map. /sarcasm

 
2005-08-21 08:06:38 PM  
What's all this about the Israeli and Palestinians being enemies?

They are neighbors.

Just because some racists/religious fanatic assraiders consider the other side the enemy side doesn't make them actual enemies.
 
2005-08-21 08:06:49 PM  
you are truly a rare sort of idiot, mr. neutron. I sincerely hope your children are born with misshapen limbs and that you die a horrible and prolonged death at the hands of Mr. Osama yielding a rusty apple peeler.

love, Betenoreus
 
2005-08-21 08:07:28 PM  
Mugato: Hey you weren't supposed to be there in the first place, oh history wide professional victims.

Uh, the government provided incentives for the people to move there. Then they forced them out and their houses were knocked down by the people the government turned around and gave the land to without asking the owners if they wanted to move. Of course they're going to be upset.
 
2005-08-21 08:09:18 PM  
Mr. Neutron, fark off and die.

Israel is nine miles wide at it's narrowest, at Netanya on the Sea to the West Bank. In 67, it was surrounded by countries that were determined to wipe it out and that pledged each other mutual assistance in the goal.

Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt.

What was necessary for Israel in 1967, to occupy the Sinai, Gaza, the West Bank, and the Golan Heights, I hope and pray is not necessary in 2005.
 
2005-08-21 08:10:38 PM  
Every time Israel gives a piece of their land to the Arabs, they should seed it with landmines.
 
2005-08-21 08:13:40 PM  
Their leader is farking it all up stating that Israel pulled out because of palastinian's scarifice and dilligence. And that he hopes that this is the beginning of a lot more land given away in Gaza and Jerusalem.

This is going to backfire very very badly for the Palistinians. Israel will give an inch, the arrogant Hezbullah and PLO are going to see this as weakness on the Jews, that the land is deserved, more of it is, and they;re going to make a push for it.

Israel will not be so kind the second time arround.
 
2005-08-21 08:14:21 PM  
and its americas fault,why?
cause in order to protect and reproduce more jewish people after the second world war, the acme of good gave the jewish people land that was not theirs...

but the problems of the middle east can easily be solved with a nuclear accident, as it will one day be called....
 
2005-08-21 08:16:07 PM  
The submitter is a farking moron. It was part of the agreement as stipulated by the palestinians. The houses do not conform to there desires and they knew that the expelled Israelis would continue to harass them if they moved into their former homes. Do some farking research before hastily posting retarded remarks.
 
2005-08-21 08:19:06 PM  
I bet a lot of those houses are booby trapped. They should sell them anyways though.
 
2005-08-21 08:22:06 PM  
Well, ya know, it seems like every time some Palestinian militant causes trouble in Israel, they go and bulldoze a bunch of Palestinian homes anyway, so maybe they're just getting it out of the way early this time.
 
2005-08-21 08:23:02 PM  
I bet those houses would have ended up as the private dachas of PA and Hamas bigwigs. Better off as rubble.
 
2005-08-21 08:23:54 PM  

MrNeutron




"the decisive intimation to Israel of approaching Egyptian attack was the arms deal concluded between Czechoslovakia and Egypt in September 1955....By the standards of arms aquisition in the Middle East at that time, the scale of this deal was very much larger than anything known before...Now, Egypt's armoured force alone, apart from the armour in other Arab States, had an ascendancy over Isreal's of nearly four to one."

"The State of Israel found herself hemmed in on three sides,
south, east, and north, by Arab armies subordinate to a single Command, and her Government could be under no illusion as to the aggressive purpose of this united military organization- nor agianst whom it was directed."

" But in April 1955 came the decision by the Egyptian General Staff to use acts of terror and sabatoge as a means of warfare, and to this end it set up a special formation called 'fedayun'. This unit was under the command of the Intelligence Branch of the Egyptian Army."
 
2005-08-21 08:24:15 PM  
The Israeli settlers did NOT give up anything, they were allocated a $2 billion buyout supplied by ....... US tax dollars, this per John MCCain on Imus.

The "settlers" returned land stolen by Israel in 1967, and got paid a huge sum for it, out of US citizens' pockets. They do not have my sympathy at all.
 
2005-08-21 08:24:44 PM  
"Causes trouble"? You mean like blowing up a bus full of civilians?

One more example of why for today's left wing knee jerkers, the Israelis can do no right and the Palestinians can do no wrong.
 
2005-08-21 08:27:00 PM  
beegirllw:

Gee, its like when Pa and the gang on the finale of Little House on the Prarie, blew up the town.

I remember that! They blew up the church/school, Olsen's Mercantile, the sawmill, everything.

The Palestinians wanted to replace the posh settler enclaves (subsidized generously by Zionist expansionists like Begin/Shamir/Sharon) into higher density housing. The Gaza Strip is like the size of Somerville, MA, with 1.4 million people.

They bought the greenhouses from the settlers though.
 
2005-08-21 08:27:25 PM  
Meh. just as well. who would want to live in a house that a dirty israeli.

/goin to hell for that one.
 
2005-08-21 08:28:04 PM  
At first I thought this was just arrogance by the Israelis.
It does make sense to rebuild using an urban plan and apartments.
A group of private US citizens got together the money to buy out a group of Israeli greenhouse farmers who were going to blow up their facilities when they left. Most of their employees were Palistinian. The US group bought the greenhouses and turned them over to the Palestinians so there would continue to be jobs and some industry/food etc. already there.
If only more would try to find solutions instead of fanning flames.
 
2005-08-21 08:28:14 PM  
Meh. just as well. who would want to live in a house that a dirty israeli lived in.

/goin to hell for that one.
//if i finish writing my Weeners before hidding the add button.
 
2005-08-21 08:28:38 PM  
Rather than giving them to the Palestinians, Israeli bulldozers are leveling Gaza houses...
If I were the Jewish settlers, I would have left bombs in the basement and bathrooms.
 
2005-08-21 08:34:35 PM  
The Isralies and the Palistinians always manage to turn any interaction into a lose-lose situation.
 
2005-08-21 08:35:56 PM  
Put me in the "Make the best out of a bad situation" column. When life gives you lemons, take the $4000 and get out.
 
2005-08-21 08:36:53 PM  
And isn't it strange how most people describe the 1967 "6 day war" as justified because it was for Israel's self defense. That war began with Israel destroying the Egyptian air force with a sneak attack, and ended with Israel more than DOUBLING its land mass in only 6 days.

And who says that those Hizbollah and Hamas funded schools don't provide the same quality of education as Western schools?

(I know he wasn't educated in Syria because if he had been, he would have stated that Syria had won that war).
 
2005-08-21 08:37:49 PM  
MrNeutron
First, Israel did face an existential threat. They learned this in the 1973 war, when the Israeli Army was almost defeated.
Before Israel attacked Egypt in 1967, The Egyptians had blockaded Israel from the Gulf of Aqaba, which was an act of war.
And as for your map, perspective is rather important.
 
2005-08-21 08:39:15 PM  
 
2005-08-21 08:39:53 PM  
LOL at people getting mad at Isreal for volunteering to destroy houses that the Palestinians plan to destroy anyway. "Damn you, saving us time and money!"
 
2005-08-21 08:42:04 PM  
Just because some racists/religious fanatic assraiders consider the other side the enemy side doesn't make them actual enemies.

True. Unless you read Ha'aretz, it would seem that all Israeli's hate Palestinians and vice versa.

http://www.haaretz.com/

Shockingly, there are Palestinians and Israelis who just want to get along and support each other's civil rights and right to their religous beliefs. (Which are actually tenets of both the Torah and Al Qu'ran. Go figure that there are actually some moral people living in the region.
 
2005-08-21 08:42:11 PM  
Wow, if the submitter shows his stupid arse around these parts again, I bet it's not pretty.

Way to ruin any chance at posting, moron.
 
2005-08-21 08:44:47 PM  
MrNeutron
And isn't it strange how most people describe the 1967 "6 day war" as justified because it was for Israel's self defense. That war began with Israel destroying the Egyptian air force with a sneak attack, and ended with Israel more than DOUBLING its land mass in only 6 days.

From Wikipedia: President Nasser, who had called King Hussein an "imperialist lackey" just days earlier, declared: "Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight."


I guess Isreal was in imminent danger of being wiped off the map. /sarcasm


Damn straight. Why the sarcasm tag? They were in very imminent danger of being wiped off the map.
 
dwg
2005-08-21 08:47:25 PM  
It's funny how everyone is right to some degree in this thread. 'Dozing the houses is only natural, who'd want your junk after you left town?
 
2005-08-21 08:48:24 PM  
Now American homes are going to skyrocket in price becausse all of the Mexicans are going to go to Gaza to build houses.
 
2005-08-21 08:49:31 PM  
What concern is dirty food, when you have none at all?

At first I read that as 'dirty girls' and thought it described the situation perfectly
 
2005-08-21 08:50:19 PM  
Why doesnt the Palastinians rich oil buddies send them a couple bucks once in awhile? Instead they tell them to blow up Jews, because Lords knows Jews are the root of all evil.
 
2005-08-21 08:51:58 PM  
MrNeutron


It's scarey how some people can rationalize any kind of evil deed, as long it's in the name of their religion.

And isn't it strange how most people describe the 1967 "6 day war" as justified because it was for Israel's self defense. That war began with Israel destroying the Egyptian air force with a sneak attack, and ended with Israel more than DOUBLING its land mass in only 6 days.

I guess Isreal was in imminent danger of being wiped off the map. /sarcasm


Thank you for demonstrating clearly how completely naive you are about the Six Day War. Egypt was about to attack Israel, and everyone knew it. Not even Egypt denies the attack was imminent. Rather than sitting on their arses and letting themselves get masacred, the Israelis did exactly what we would do, which was lauch a preemptive strike. Had Israel failed to destroy Egypt's air force on the ground, we probably wouldn't be talking about evicting Jews from the West Bank or anywhere else because they and everyone else in Israel would all have been murdered long ago. Egypt got what it had coming, and it was only through extortion that Israel ever had to give the Sanai back in the first place. I could go on, but it's probably a waste of time trying to explain any of this to a person like you in the first place. Anyone who thinks Egyptians were the victims in 1967 is living with his head in the sand.
 
2005-08-21 08:52:56 PM  
Mayhem_King: Shockingly, there are Palestinians and Israelis who just want to get along and support each other's civil rights and right to their religous beliefs. (Which are actually tenets of both the Torah and Al Qu'ran. Go figure that there are actually some moral people living in the region.

There are definitely leftist Israeli groups who advocate tolerance and all that nice shiat, but I challenge you to find a genuine leftist Palestinian group.
 
2005-08-21 08:54:37 PM  
I would destory the house too. makes sense.

all i know concerning the 6day war is that isreal attacked a us navy ship and nearly destoryed it. so isreal can kiss my ass.
 
2005-08-21 08:54:53 PM  
We have a duty to provide future dominant species SOMETHING to archeologically excavate.

/Knock it off
 
2005-08-21 08:54:59 PM  
To be fair, it wasn't the Israeli's fault this time. It was the Palestinian's. The Israeli had offered the buildings to them for a fire sale price, but they dickered and dickered. Until the Israeli told them to f*ck off.

Stupid brown people.
 
2005-08-21 08:57:00 PM  
Submitter, the article tags are supposed to describe the article, not the submitter's behavior.
 
2005-08-21 09:02:54 PM  
actually, the jews should have LEFT the houses.
would have given the MORANS something to FIGHT over ...

who gets the FREE houses ????
imagine the amusement?
 
2005-08-21 09:06:03 PM  
from the article: "Huge D9 bulldozers, many DRIVEN BY ISRAELI ARABS, tore down homes" (caps added by me)


both sides are wrong. period.

A nation with a star of david as the flag will always persecute non jews.

A muslim nation will always persecute all non muslims

separation of church and state is a good thing.
 
2005-08-21 09:06:38 PM  
Gotta wonder what the crazies did to the water table on their way out.
 
2005-08-21 09:07:58 PM  
There's an old saying: "The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity."

I guarantee that this new opportunity in Gaza will be no different.
 
2005-08-21 09:11:15 PM  
polythene_pam

from the article: "Huge D9 bulldozers, many DRIVEN BY ISRAELI ARABS, tore down homes" (caps added by me)

both sides are wrong. period.

A nation with a star of david as the flag will always persecute non jews.

A muslim nation will always persecute all non muslims


OK, it's offensive to both sides, yet still offensive. Human rights under the Caliph (for all but those deemed seditious) were the equal of anything in the western world today.

As for now, there's one nation in the middle east where both Jews and Arabs are enfranchised (that means can vote.).
There's one nation in the middle east where an arab woman can vote.

Put your blinders back on, you are clearly superior.
 
2005-08-21 09:11:32 PM  
The entire Middle East is nicely contained on a tectonic called the Arabian Plate.

If we all went down there with some crowbars, I reckon we could just pry it free.
 
2005-08-21 09:12:37 PM  
Oh yeah, and in Gaza, settler = militant, so don't get too teary eyed for them.

This will be good, they can set up a palestinian state and maybe even develop an army!! oh boy, that'll be fun.
 
2005-08-21 09:16:26 PM  
i say we give arabs and israelis 2 nukes apiece. big ones...
/glass parking lot
//>8-x
///stupid people shouldn't breed
////couldn't have spent the 70's and 80's putting reasonable people in power in those stupid regions.
/////fix our house first.
 
2005-08-21 09:16:54 PM  
Submitter == Pot Stirrer

/stop it, you fag
 
2005-08-21 09:18:28 PM  
"Every time Israel gives a piece of their land to the Arabs, they should seed it with landmines."

And bacon, don't forget the bacon.
 
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