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(The Star)   Bank demands that spicy-food restaurant with identical acronym change it's name. Bank concerned that someone might improperly mistake the burning sensation in their ass with spicy food   (thestar.com.my) divider line 94
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2005-08-18 03:35:28 AM
i didnt even rtfa, but that is one sa-weet headline....
 
2005-08-18 03:43:03 AM
milesdavishatesu...Naw, I saw it cumin.
 
2005-08-18 08:34:39 AM
Perhaps the restaurant could curry favor with the bank.
 
2005-08-18 08:52:39 AM
Nice headline!
 
2005-08-18 09:13:51 AM


/had to be done
 
2005-08-18 09:16:31 AM
Er... I mean:



/Sorry, I guess the coffee hasn't kicked in yet
 
2005-08-18 09:19:36 AM
I see what the headline writer was trying to do, but I think he was trying a little too hard and, while close, it doesn't quite work. C+ for effort, D- for grammar. better luck next time, submitter.
 
2005-08-18 09:21:22 AM
If the restaurant gives out lollipops to the kids, the bank might just have something here.
 
2005-08-18 09:22:00 AM
The restaurant's sign actually says "Ristoran HSBC". I don't speak Kuala Lumporian, but this seems to say the equivalent of Restaurant HSBC. Don't see how this can be confused with any bank's name.

Even without the Ristoran part, they are different industries, so if they follow trademark law that is similar to the US, the restaurant should be fine.

Judging by the smiling owner in the picture, I'm guessing he's happy for the free publicity.
 
2005-08-18 09:22:42 AM
A stupid article deserves a stupid headline.
 
2005-08-18 09:22:55 AM
There is an HSBC branch in the lobby of my building. Unfortunately, it is the bank and not the restaurant.
 
2005-08-18 09:23:27 AM
Nice headline, Submitter XD
 
2005-08-18 09:25:43 AM
mmm hmm

The logo does look somewhat alike. And considering it appears to mean "Restaurant HSBC", or perhaps even HSBC Restaurant, people could assume they are linked, when they're not.
 
2005-08-18 09:27:55 AM
I used to work for a bank named First Union ... employees received an official memo from the company warning us to not call it F.U.

/of course we still did it
 
2005-08-18 09:30:36 AM
um poor Bob,
what about it has?

which of these is correct
It has been a warm week
Its been a warm week
It's been a warm week

here It has id contracted to It's, just like It will becomes It'll.

Or am I wrong about that?
 
2005-08-18 09:30:59 AM
Dutchboy is disturbed by it's use.

/runs away
 
2005-08-18 09:33:19 AM
Of course. Dumbass bank execs, if they don't want people calling their bank "F.U." don't let it have the acronym. They should've known that's what they were in for when they called it "First Union."

/First Union suxxx
//HSBC Bank suxxx
///all banks suxxx
////keep your money in a sock drawer

(...in a "suxxx" drawer????)
 
2005-08-18 09:35:35 AM
First National International Trust Peoples Bank of State County City Block Second Street Bank Union of America.

Friggin bank names area all alike anyway. "Unimaginative" in the dictionary has a hyperlink to the banking section of Yahoo.

Call it "Frank's Place" or something cool. Or "Bank of the Underdark" maybe.
 
2005-08-18 09:37:05 AM
Kiffer - "it's" is for "it is" ONLY. Don't ask me why, I don't make the rules, I just enforce them.

As for HSBC being all pissy and protective, that's the joy of branding.
 
2005-08-18 09:39:29 AM
kiffer
um poor Bob,
what about it has?

which of these is correct
It has been a warm week
Its been a warm week
It's been a warm week

here It has id contracted to It's, just like It will becomes It'll.

Or am I wrong about that?


Sheesh, glance over your post before you hit "add comment." (Typing! Use-vs.-mention!) Bob noted that "it's" is a contraction - as for the headline, "IT'S = IT IS", well, it's a headline - he wasn't going to put all the possible cases in it.
 
2005-08-18 09:40:54 AM
dukefluke

Kiffer - "it's" is for "it is" ONLY.


Umm... no.
 
2005-08-18 09:41:58 AM
Headline made me laugh...

Still laughing, even though I had to read it more than once to make sure I was laughing for the right reason...
 
jph
2005-08-18 09:47:05 AM
Yes, I can see how someone could confuse Ristoran HSBC for Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Company.
 
2005-08-18 09:47:18 AM
neven - ummm... yes, and good luck proving it otherwise.
 
2005-08-18 09:48:10 AM
HSBC Sucks.

HSBC even bought Household Retail Services a while back, to form a new and improved conglomerate of suckyness.

That is all.
 
2005-08-18 09:53:31 AM
Stupid people demanding "its" is ONLY "it is".

Its is the nutral version of his and her. Try plugging her into your sentence where you think its belongs. If the sentence still works grammatically (if not logically) then your word is indeed its.
 
2005-08-18 09:57:18 AM
Rand0mkill - For using "it" as the neutral version of his or her, you would have to capitalise the "I" in "It". Otherwise, there's still no apostrophe. Logically, it should have one, but grammatically, it doesn't.
 
2005-08-18 09:58:29 AM
There's Microsoft Toilet Paper.

The name FLEET is used for enemas, and a bank, before the bank was bought out. Before the bank changed it's name, it was probably the most accurately named bank in the US.

Anyone who confuses the HSBC restaurant with the HSBC bank is, to be blunt, an idiot. The argument fails the "Reasonable person" criteria. Ten to one the bank has some influence over Myipo, as there's no rational reason for them to reject the business application. The claim that it might actually confuse people is bullshiate.
 
2005-08-18 10:01:11 AM
dukefluke: For using "it" as the neutral version of his or her, you would have to capitalise the "I" in "It". Otherwise, there's still no apostrophe. Logically, it should have one, but grammatically, it doesn't.


Whic'h i's wh'y gramma'r rule's suc'k, "rule's" tha't don't mak'e sens'e shoul'd b'e scrappe'd.

Language is either a living growing thing, or it quickly becomes a dead language. As culture and the people driving it are constantly changing.
 
2005-08-18 10:01:48 AM
neven: Sheesh, glance over your post before you hit "add comment." (

Um the only misstake I can see in my post is a minor type I hit d instead of s at one point ... I only preview long posts.
 
2005-08-18 10:03:52 AM
typo ... good lord I'm a 'tard
 
2005-08-18 10:04:09 AM
kiffer: Um the only misstake I can see in my post

Mistake only has one "s"
 
2005-08-18 10:05:13 AM
Wow...how quickly this has degenerated into a grammar lesson. Ain't that amazing!

On an unrelated note, I was faintly amused by this line:

When met by The Star, owner N. Mangaladavi said that the bank was not amused, initially.

Initially! Ha! Boo-yah!

/Thanks, thanks a lot folks. I'm here all week. Tip your waiter. Try the pork.
 
2005-08-18 10:05:36 AM
Taken from Webster himself:

"What is its color? It's green. It's been a long, long time.
These are the champs, surely the most often confused words in English! Remember, it's means it is or it has! Use its to show possession."

http://webster.commnet.edu/grammar/notorious/its.htm

Now drop it and GBTW!
 
2005-08-18 10:06:45 AM
Bank should change its name.
Don't they regularly do that anyhow?
 
2005-08-18 10:07:36 AM
neven: he wasn't going to put all the possible cases in it.



Except that he makes a big point of saying that if you see it's and you replace it with it is and then it does'nt make sense it's wrong...

so...
It's been a hot week
becomes It is been
Which makes no sense, so the contraction of It and Has does'nt work... except it should, so Bob is wrong.

It's been = It has been
Its been = wrong.
 
2005-08-18 10:08:11 AM
Uncoolest - you're dead right, and it DOES evolve, eventually. It's just that you have to keep some guidelines in place in order to teach the kids. It eventually becomes a generational thing. You'll be shaking your fist at your kids' bad grammar, and they'll do the same to theirs.
 
2005-08-18 10:16:09 AM
kiffer: does'nt


"Doesn't."

The apostrophy is used to indicate the removed portion of the word.
 
2005-08-18 10:19:34 AM
dukefluke: Uncoolest - you're dead right, and it DOES evolve, eventually. It's just that you have to keep some guidelines in place in order to teach the kids. It eventually becomes a generational thing. You'll be shaking your fist at your kids' bad grammar, and they'll do the same to theirs.


I developed my distaste for grammar in teaching my kids. It really shows how stupid a lot of rules are when you explain them to a kid and then they use the rule in their work and it doesn't apply in that situation. Then you have to resort to;

Me: It doesn't apply in that situation.
Kid: Why not?
Me: Just because.

That happened way too much, made me think that maybe we need to recodify the rules until they actually make consitent sense.

// incidentally 5 kids, 4 of them have grammar skills that exceed mine by far.
 
2005-08-18 10:31:51 AM
CommonSenseSurrenders: The apostrophy is used to indicate the removed portion of the word.


Yeah... maybe I should start previewing my posts, but to be honest I dont care enough about short posts to do so.
Mistakes like ddoubled letters don't bother me.
Both does'nt and misstake are due to typing speed more so than errors of grammer or spelling
I'll be the first to say my spelling sucks, my grammars not great either, however Bob the Angry Flower is wrong about It's beening only ever used for It is.

most of my posts have at least one mistake, either from poor typing or spelling, but they arn't riddled with mistakes...


Or should that be ar'n't :) CommonSenseSurrenders
 
2005-08-18 10:34:32 AM
The above being said, let me comment on the popular notion that it is rude to point out a person's grammatical errors in online forums. This bit of "netiquette" was derived from the other popular notion that online communiques were supposed to be fast and temporary, so caring about copy editing was (and, largely, is) a waste of time when using a supposedly fast tool.

So what I'm really trying to say here is, you're all rude.
 
2005-08-18 10:34:50 AM
you see you cant just stick in an apostrophy where ever you dont want to put a letter...
 
2005-08-18 10:35:40 AM
Say...is it just me or does the guy in the picture look like Al Roker?
 
2005-08-18 10:37:09 AM
We should simplify English grammar and language. Cut out words, useless other conjugations of stuff, and so on. Eventually, there would only be basic adjectives with a few modifiers used, and you'd describe something awesome as "double plus good," or bad as "ungood".
 
2005-08-18 10:37:51 AM
I saw a news story on TV a couple years ago. McDonalds was sewed a sandwich shop in Scotland for using the name McMunchies. The owner of a four star restaurant called McDonalds who also is the current head of the McDonalds clan sewed McDonalds. Both suites were dropped.
 
2005-08-18 10:38:37 AM
DutchBoy

you should put up a guide on how posting large images on fark does an automatic resize which makes the text unreadable...dumbass's's's's's's's's's's's's
 
2005-08-18 10:39:47 AM
Since we're Nazying it up, I am also annoyed by this:

"Rock 'n Roll"
"Cash n' Carry"

Are these supposed to be contractions of "Rock an Roll" and "Cash nd Carry"? The apostrophe replaces a dropped letter, so if you drop two, you need to replace two.

kiffer

Um the only misstake I can see in my post is a minor type I hit d instead of s at one point ... I only preview long posts.


Here:

um poor Bob, Um, poor Bob,
what about it has? what about "it has"?

which of these is correct which of these is correct:
It has been a warm weekIt has been a warm week
Its been a warm weekIts been a warm week
It's been a warm weekIt's been a warm week

here It has id contracted to It's, just like It will becomes It'll. here "It has" is contracted to "It's", just like "It will" becomes "It'll".

Or am I wrong about that? Or am I wrong about that?

(Capitalization unnecessary in message board posts)

Use-vs.-mention is an IMPORTANT rule; not because it's stylish to implement it properly, but because it helps the logical flow of your sentence. Remember, when quoting, use quote marks!

Language evolves and I love it for it; but making mistakes like "your/you're" and "it's/its" REDUCES your expressive power and adds virtually no meaning to what you're saying.

/"virtually" because the only message it adds is that you can't spell.
 
2005-08-18 10:40:13 AM
autopsybeverage - true. I only dived in to answer a question. Being a proofreader, it's like my own personal bat-signal.

"Holy dangling participles, Grammarman, someone needs you're help!"
"Actually, it's "your", not... oh sod it... to the Pedantmobile!"
 
2005-08-18 10:40:31 AM
autopsybeverage: The above being said, let me comment on the popular notion that it is rude to point out a person's grammatical errors in online forums. This bit of "netiquette" was derived from the other popular notion that online communiques were supposed to be fast and temporary, so caring about copy editing was (and, largely, is) a waste of time when using a supposedly fast tool.

So what I'm really trying to say here is, you're all rude.


I agree. with the fast and temporary thing.
but once some one starts correcting grammar and then gets it wrong, in this case the It's == it is ONLY,
then you're just asking for trouble. are'nt you?
 
2005-08-18 10:42:20 AM
nevin - "Are these supposed to be contractions of "Rock an Roll" and "Cash nd Carry"? The apostrophe replaces a dropped letter, so if you drop two, you need to replace two."

Actually, I think those are phonetic in origin.
 
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