Ahahahahhahaahahhaaaa

oh bush and war on oil
when will you invade iran and kill more peopole

/kill a man and you're a murder
kill a thousand you're a king
kill a million you're a god
pointless killing for oil, then you must be a texan
oh and if you're a soilder then you get kicked out of texas

27-year-old Beeville native

For you yankee's who don't know, Beeville is just a bit outside of Austin. If he's a Beeville native, and was in Iraq for 2 years, then he spent 25 years in Texas, 2 in Iraq (and not by choice, I'm would suspect) and now ACC claims he's not a Texan. I have little doubt this will be fixed.

/Yeah Texas! Support Our Troops!
//ACC is full of asswipes - he'd be better off to find a new school.

forgot to add
///Semper Fi!

He should fire a shot into the air. it *is* Texas, after all.

/you figure it out.

Perhaps when the Marines are finished in Iraq they can launch an offensive against the leftist univerisities and news outlets who did nothing but stab them in the back while they were gone.

LMAO
No suprise.
If another state does get added like Florida, it should be Texas.

The parades and flowers in Iraq weren't enough?

This guy wants a free ride to school, too.

Too bad he doesn't qualify according to Texas law:

"At least one year preceding the first day of the term or semester executed a document with the applicable service branch that is in effect on the first day of the term or semester that (a) indicates the member's permanent residence address is in Texas and (b) designates Texas as the member's place of legal residence for income tax purposes;
Registers to vote in Texas for the entire year preceding the first day of the term or semester; and
Satisfies at least one of the following:
for the entire year preceding the first day of the term or semester has owned real property in Texas and in that time has not been delinquent in the payment of any taxes on the property;
Has had an automobile registered in Texas for the entire year preceding the first day of the term or semester; or
At least one year preceding the first day of the term or semester executed a will that has not been revoked or superseded indicating that the member is a resident of this state and deposited the will with the county clerk of the county of the member's residence under Section 71, Texas Probate Code."

Maybe Hillary will pony up.

Boy. Talk about this college breaking Federal laws. The Soldiers and Sailor's Civil Relief Act would protect this Marine and allow him to retain his residency status in Texas while on orders.

If he paid taxes to or had Texas as his legal State of residency for tax purposes -- even if tax exempt due to overseas duty, then he is considered a legal citizen of that State. No matter if he is gone on military orders overseas or in another State for 1, 5, 10 years or whatever.

Also, his personal property can be taxed. This means if he has a car, and it has a license plate, it means that there ar emore than likely State taxes associated with that license, in effect taxing his property. This also establishes his legal residency.

So ratboy despite what you would like to think is true, Federal law trumps State law in this case. If this Marine reports this to JAG, then it will be fixed. Otherwise, the school will be looking at a massive fine. The military doesn't screw around.

I run into this situation quite a lot. I work in construction and my perm. resident state is rarely where I work. I find the DMV the worst to deal with in this situation. Car insurance companies are the second worst. I'm beyond college age so that's not a problem I face.

zacad: He didn't lose his residency because he was in Iraq, he lost it because he enlisted in Louisiana, which is where he finished high school. The article says that members of the military are presumed to maintain residency in the state where they enlisted.

Actually, soldiers have a choice. They can keep their homestate residency or they take residency where they are stationed. It will all come down to whether or not he had Texas listed as his his legal State of residency for income tax purposes. If he didn't claim Texas as his legal state, then he's screwed.

unavailable for comment...

Arcanum: Texans don't pay income tax, and again, this guy was a resident of a different American State. This has nothing to do with going to Iraq at all.

Texas college cannot give Wisconsim residents in state tuition just because they went to Iraq.

Regardless if Texas collects income tax or not, he still has to fill out his state of legal residency for pay purposes. That's not just something that is overlooked because Texas might not collect State income tax. Besides, if he paid any other taxes on personal property in Texas, that, according to the SSCRA, establishes his residency as well.

Proof is in the pudding. He needs to whip out a copy of his paycheck and see if Texas is listed on there. If it is, then he is a legal residence and the school is screwed.

This reminds me of how you liberals treated our Vietnam vets when they came back from the war. Most of them were drafted and had the honor to fulfill their obligations. Something you dodgers know nothing about.

Nemo's Brother

Kill as many people as you want. My respect for you only decreases.

What would Jesus do? Well he'd get himself a rifle and kill him some biatches!

Seriously, if you are dumb enough to run into gunfire without thinking of a better solution, you don't deserve an education.

Probably what happened was he got his bill and freaked out. It's not like they programmed the computers to recognize something like this. The first person he should have called was at the registrar's office, not the local tv station.

They'll fix it.

LordPomposity: Good try you might want to replace texas with Austin as the rest of the state is pretty conservative. Though obviously not as conservative as your ideal :)

I'm not a TX resident, and it makes me so happy!!!

The funny thing is... as a member of the active military.. you can claim any state as resident for tax purposes... While I was in the Navy, I claimed Texas because they dont (or didnt) deduct state taxes...

-phoxxy-

The Marine in question lived in LA prior to joining up.
Get all your facts before you go off on a subject.
The school did everything they could to help the guy.

Submitter is misleading. He wasn't a TX resident before enlisting. I wonder though how long you need to be a legal resident before getting the "in state" tuition? In Virginia it's 1 year. But they allow for temporary absences...whatever the hell that means.

Looks like the returning Iraq vets will get the same support and backup from home the returning Nam vets got...
If by backup you mean "Deep Anal Probe Time"...

2005-08-18 01:19:32 AM ReverendZ


to VultureTX
... It must be a phrase only asshats say when they're amongst their own kind.


Let me guess all your friends voted for Kerry and you don't know anyone who supports President Bush. Then I guess you would not have heard the phrase. Remember South of the River used to be called Bubbaland. And 78704 used to have an entirely different voter profile.

/People may live in Austin, buth they don't know Austin.

i'd be surprised if this isn't worked out shortly.
texas takes very good care of veterans in regards to helping further their education, and help pick up the tab when the gi bill runs out
/just sayin'

/People may live in Austin, but they don't know Austin.


He isn't the only longtime resident that's never heard the phrase "Moscow on the Colorado". "Bubbaland"? Yeah, I've heard that many times. Either way, I love it here and don't plan on leaving.
As far as tuition at UT, last week on talk radio they were talking about how citizens of Mexico are paying in-state tuition, but UT is still making US citizens from other states pay a higher rate. Haven't found link to the story, though, but it's food for thought.

"Well do you relaize that Austin voted for Kerry in '04. And the City is not called "Moscow on the Colorado" for nothing."

There you have it. Fark this guy.

Illegal immigrants get in-state tuition in Texas.

2005-08-18 12:55:17 AM VultureTX
"It's been called Moscow on the Colorado since the 80's."

So what's the similarity to Moscow. The lakes? The parks? The food? The music? The babes? The wealth? The mild winters?

Actually, he isnt a Texan. He and his family moved to Louisiana during his 3rd year of High School. He joined the military from there. anyone in the military will tell you, when you sign up, the state you signed up from becomes your home state for the next 4 years. even if your family moves back to Texas after you sign up. So, they are correct, he isnt a texas resident. His parents are. Next year he will be a resident.

No, the leftwing Austinites at ACC was wrong as the law shows.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/ED/content/htm/ed.003.00.000054.0 0.htm#54.058.00

"A former member of the Armed Forces of the United States
or the former member's spouse or dependent child is entitled to pay
the tuition fees and other fees or charges provided for Texas
residents for any term or semester at a state institution of higher
education that begins before the first anniversary of the member's
separation from the Armed Forces if the former member:
(1) has retired or been honorably discharged from the
Armed Forces; and
(2) has complied with the requirements of Subsection
(d)."

Section d requires that they have been resients of Texas for at least a 6 month period of time prior to their discharge.

The nutcases in the Proffessoriate will take any opportunity to impoverish and otherwise harm patriotic Americans of all races as they get the opportunity to do so. It is what Clinton called 'the politics of personal destruction.'

Leftists have done it for so long they just think of it as their natural right, kinda like Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, etc.

The rest of us should pay attention to our history - that leopard wont change its spots.

LOL equusdc! If you really were in the military then you know that all the gays join the marines.

Move along, nothing to see here. It's a straight up administrative biff. It's not some conspiracy.

/recieved in-state tuition as a newly discharged veteran in Texas.
//was a California resident before.

ratboy: -phoxxy-

The Marine in question lived in LA prior to joining up.
Get all your facts before you go off on a subject.
The school did everything they could to help the guy.

He could have lived anywhere prior to joining up. All that matters is what State he claimed as his home residence. Doesn't matter what state he lived in prior to joining up. You can pick any State for residency purposes in the military. I never said he was a Texan. I said IF he had his home state listed as Texas with the military, then the school is in the wrong to deny him residency status -- no matter what their residency laws are.

Maybe you should get your facts straight before you make yourself look stupid. Oh, wait. Nevermind. You already did that.

Takitron: Actually, he isnt a Texan. He and his family moved to Louisiana during his 3rd year of High School. He joined the military from there. anyone in the military will tell you, when you sign up, the state you signed up from becomes your home state for the next 4 years. even if your family moves back to Texas after you sign up. So, they are correct, he isnt a texas resident. His parents are. Next year he will be a resident.

Not necessarily true. I've seen many instances where that has been the case. I mean, common, if you have ANY dealings with the military you know they don't always do what they say they will do and can do anything different at a moments notice.

Not ragging on you, but just saying, from my expereiences, that doesn't necessarily hold true given some sitautions that I have known about.

Hey, it's all about personal responsibility. The state is not there to carry your ass.

how in the hairy hell do you translate multiple years spent on a tour of duty in iraq to irresponsibility?

i'm sick of this story. as i understood it, he graduated high school in Louisiana and claimed that as his home state even though he was in Texas when he was sent to Iraq.

if this guy doesn't want to play by the rules and play the "but, but, but... i was a soldier in Iraq" card, that's his choice. if he did want to play by the rules, claim Texas as his home state, wait a year, and re-register for classes.

this has nothing to do with the school. it is a rule that the TEA came up with, which they seem to be allowed to do (make their own rules). but this asshat goes to the news instead of a TEA office and comes off sounding like a victim. soldier or not, i don't care. he was playing that card and that makes this worse. if i did it, would i get away with it? hell no. will he? i'll catch the follow up later.

and as for his parents... this guy is over 24. his parents no longer (as far as financial aid goes) a factor in payment for his schooling, nor should where they live make any difference whatsoever.

it sucks that there's a war on, but he made it back alive. first thing he does when he gets back is biatch.

/sorry for sounding like a troll, just adding my two cents, right or wrong, just like everyone else

tbeatty : yup. clearly the imaginary person you're making up an imaginary scenario for to spout of pointlessly about is the dumbass.

The phrase is "Babylon on the Colorado", not "Moscow". It's used frequently by San Antonio Express-News columnist Roddy Stinson, a cranky old man who doesn't have much nice to say about anybody. He also refers to Austin pols as "tea sippers".

It goes by your home of record. Oh the joy of the military... when you go in, be sure to mark your home of record as someone you knows address in whatever state you plan on going to school in when you get out, it will save you a world of trouble. Be sure to use the same address, or at least the same state when they ask for your DD214s when it's go home time. Also, most decent sized schools have a person set aside to help veterans deal with things like this, and also to help you get any sort of MGIB and vocational retraining money you may be entitled to.

*If you sign up for the military as a resident of **whatever state**, when you get out, you are a resident of **whatever state**... your home of record is where you are a resident of, regardless of your posting, even if you are posted in the US. E.G. if you sign up as a resident of Kansas, and then you get posted at umm... Patrick AFB in FL, even if its for all 2,4,6 years of your hitch (not including IR), when you get your go-home papers, you are a legal resident of KS. Also note, this is why your drivers license, even if expired, is valid as long as you present it with your AD military ID.

As for this guy, being native to a state does not make you a resident. I am a native of DC technically, I grew up in MD, my high school diploma is from there, after that I lived, worked in, and became a resident of FL, while I was there, my mom moved to OK, I went to the AF, used OK as my home of record even though I was a legal resident of FL at the time, I did my time in various places staring and saluting (SF), went to OK when I got out, showed my DD214s, birth certificate, and passport, got my okie drivers license (business card w/crappy picture, laminated), went to school there, promptly left.

Basically, your residency can change, and if you are too stupid to know when it is changing, you need to ask more questions. As for the drivers license and voting, you can become a legal resident for those purposes before you become a legal resident for education purposes... in many states you must transfer your drivers license and tags within 90 days if you intend to stay for more than 365 days (mostly b/c they want your money). You aren't required to register to vote, but in most places, if you have been there more than 30 days, and you have a fixed address (not a hotel), you're good. Having a bank account is not indicative of residency.

Much Love, and I hope this cleared up the confusion some of you may have had. For local residency requirements (educational), contact your intended schools financial aid office. If you are changing states, be sure to also contact your intended states DMV _before_ you move, the fines for not transferring your plates in a timely manner can be quite steep.

Firefly

JamesBong [TotalFark]

As a veteran and a resident of the great state of texas I can tell you with full certainty that this exact situation has been thought of and given remedy:

I give you the "Waiver, Military: Honorably Discharged, Separated or Retired Veterans who Move to Texas"

http://www.collegefortexans.com/cfbin/tofa2.cfm?id=82

Program Purpose
To provide an immediate waiver of nonresident tuition to the veteran, spouse and dependent children who move to Texas upon separation from the military.

Please, by all means though continue your bashing. You dont really need an excuse; But if it makes you sleep better....

Umm, seems obvious, but did this guy apply for the waiver?

ReverendZ

It must be a phrase only asshats say when they're amongst their own kind.

Indeed, it tends to be. Then they all go "yuk yuk yuk, low how clever I is"

VultureTX
Let me guess all your friends voted for Kerry and you don't know anyone who supports President Bush.

Almost true for me. The friends who support Bush tend to be the "slower thinkers" among the bunch.

/20-year Austinite
//Love it here
///Rightwingers can kiss my hairy ass

Oh, and BTW, ACC needs to cut this guy some slack.

My prediction: they will, within a week.

Sorry -phoxxy- but I think you're the stupid one here.
He's getting his VA benefit, which doesn't include 100% tuition to the school of his choice, in Texas or anywhere else. He tried to claim a state benefit to which he wasn't entitled (see above qualification). It's really not that hard to understand.

ps- When you grow up you'll find out that being wrong and being stupid don't have to be the same thing.

"Marine told he is no longer a Texan"

And in other news: Former Texas Marine's I.Q. triples!

/Texas; its like a whole other country.
//Good! Maybe they'll leave ours alone.
///Are Texas schools like English Dental offices?
////slashy slashy

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3317129

It appears that some librul, American-hater in Austin has found a way for him to qualify.

Goddamn I'm good.

Too bad the idiot in the bursars office didnt do their job. It took me all of 5 minutes to find that exemption and post it here.