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(Yahoo)   This month's miraculous cure for HIV that you'll never hear about again: Crocodile blood   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 98
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2005-08-16 03:39:09 PM
I hope they have dental dams.
 
2005-08-16 04:03:24 PM
I rememer when rock was young.........
 
2005-08-16 04:10:54 PM
Me and Suzie had so much fun...
 
2005-08-16 05:26:31 PM
Sure, it works.
But check out the side-effects!

 
2005-08-16 06:39:11 PM
Didn't read the article, but this sounds like something Kevin Trudeau would charge 50 bucks to tell you about.
 
2005-08-16 07:54:19 PM
Hang-ing arrround, hang-ing arrround, kids got alligator blood, cant get rrid of him!

/Ok it's alligator not crocodile. close enough?
 
2005-08-16 07:55:13 PM
Ack from preview to submit the thing threw away my pic.
 
2005-08-16 07:57:39 PM
Yeah, I'm sure 2 guys wading around a swamp in Australia are going to find the cure for AIDS.
 
2005-08-16 08:46:47 PM
Chaimtime: Yeah, I'm sure 2 guys wading around a swamp in Australia are going to find the cure for AIDS.

Why not two guys messing around with a monkey started it.
 
2005-08-16 08:47:43 PM


This crocodile has reached full sexual maturity!
 
2005-08-16 08:47:50 PM
Here's one. Not screwing monkeys in the jungle.
 
2005-08-16 08:49:44 PM
Heck, that would be pretty darn cool although collecting blood from a live Saltwater croc would be one hell of a talent!
 
2005-08-16 08:50:43 PM
Please let me be the first to welcome our new AIDS-free crocodile overlords.
 
2005-08-16 08:52:30 PM
Holding hands and skipping stones...
 
2005-08-16 08:53:43 PM
Ok that article sounded somewhat more believable after I read it...headline is misleading...

/was thinking it was some snake oil deal
 
2005-08-16 08:59:21 PM
I dunno Minus1Kelvin...

I would say that the headline is pretty accurate. If you think for a minute that pharmaceutical companies in the USA will allow this to hit mainstream media you're sadly mistaken.

They will use the press to quash this idea and simply destroy it, it'll end up in a book of "Natural Cures" never to be heard about again.
 
2005-08-16 09:01:37 PM
I'm going to sneak up on it, and stick my thumb up its ass! This should really piss it off!
 
2005-08-16 09:01:50 PM
Actually, there IS a cure for HIV -- it's Medical Ozone.

It's being used in Europe, etc -- but they won't allow it here because the pharmaceuticals won't make dime one on it -- and they are a powerful lobbying group.

Google Medical Ozone. Go ahead.

From what I remember reading 10 years ago, HIV is basically an anaerobic condition -- it propigates with lack of oxygen. Medical Ozone oxygenates the body/blood and basically destroys the shell of the HIV molecule... .rendering it useless/harmless.

There have been plenty of studies to back this up -- and scientifically, it's sound.

There will never be a cure for HIV allowed to hit the American market -- as then the entire industry that 'manages' HIV would collapse -- and they won't allow that to happen.

But there are plenty of people going to Europe, and other places like NZ, Australia, that also use Medical Ozone to treat HIV... and people are getting good results.

Lots of people say it's quackery -- but it's not.

However, with people living with HIV for long periods of time (decades) with meds... the pharmaceuticals have a corner on the market.

Medical Ozone

Another site
 
2005-08-16 09:02:39 PM
Not a bad idea.

Although personally I don't think AIDS should be too high on our list of priorities, considering that nowadays, it's usually someone's own fault if they get it.
 
2005-08-16 09:04:37 PM
farsidehobbes:

but this sounds like something Kevin Trudeau would charge 50 bucks to tell you about.

I was reading about him. Apparently he is every bit the shady sleazeball with a checkered past I thought he would be.
 
2005-08-16 09:05:43 PM
VoterApathy,

Yeah, like that pesky 'being born with it' thing.
 
2005-08-16 09:06:05 PM
We need homophobic comments in here. It doesn't look like we'll be getting a proper evening 'neo-con fascist chickenhawk swine dogs' vs. 'li-bur-ul intullektual fairy commies' flamewar.
 
2005-08-16 09:08:57 PM
Medical ozone: Talk about blowing smoke up someone's ass..
 
2005-08-16 09:09:19 PM
Crock blood, crikey! Oh DangerMouse, where are you now?
 
2005-08-16 09:11:11 PM
VoterApathy: Not a bad idea.

Although personally I don't think AIDS should be too high on our list of priorities, considering that nowadays, it's usually someone's own fault if they get it.


Yeah, so what if it's WIPING OUT AFRICA...those darkies deserve it...

/sheesh, think outside your own country please.
 
2005-08-16 09:11:57 PM
Don't mock pure research.... You never know when they'll be right.
 
2005-08-16 09:12:22 PM
sweet.
 
2005-08-16 09:12:31 PM
from wikipedia:

"Ozone therapy has blossomed into a thriving field of alternative medicine, and there are a host of claimed applications above and beyond what has actually been verified by studies. Ozone treatments are dangerous, however, since ozone is highly corrosive.

In the USA ozone therapy is illegal, as the FDA has not approved its use on humans. At least one death has been attributed to application of ozone through insufflation in the USA. "Air cleaners" which produce "activated oxygen", i.e. ozone, are often sold in the US nonetheless. See Air ioniser.

Ozone has been found to convert cholesterol in the blood stream to plaque (which causes hardening and narrowing of arteries). This cholesterol product has also been implicated in Alzheimer's disease, suggesting a link between the inflammatory response associated with head injury and Alzheimer's."

Yeah. Where do I sign?
 
2005-08-16 09:13:56 PM
feistyAlgal

Maybe I would believe it if it weren't for the fact that the companies that distribute it claim it cures everything from the flu to cancer.

Anytime I see something that claims to be an all-encompassing cure, my bullshiat-o-meter explodes.
 
2005-08-16 09:14:28 PM
abuttino: I dunno Minus1Kelvin...

I would say that the headline is pretty accurate. If you think for a minute that pharmaceutical companies in the USA will allow this to hit mainstream media you're sadly mistaken.

They will use the press to quash this idea and simply destroy it, it'll end up in a book of "Natural Cures" never to be heard about again.



See, I think you may not understand that Pharm companies are ALL ABOUT potential new drugs they can buy the rights to and sell. Getting usable antibodies/medication from croc blood is gonna take lots of time and lots of $$$...wouldn't be surprised if some pharm groups take an interest in their research if they start getting somewhere with it. I'm sure these guy's would cash in...

/plan on going to the darkside after my PhD...
//Biotech industry may be money grubbing, but it pays well...
 
2005-08-16 09:14:57 PM
2005-08-16 09:01:50 PM feistyALgal

Actually, there IS a cure for HIV -- it's Medical Ozone.


I did a search for Google for "Medical Ozone" and only came up with a bunch of bullshiat "spiritual healing" sites. If it really is getting results, the people over in Europe aren't talking about it either. It's not like the big bad pharmaceutical companies are filtering the Internet for Europeon news sites reporting it.

/works at an ISP; no they aren't filtering a damn thing...
 
2005-08-16 09:16:00 PM
Well maybe if they didn't screw like rabbits it wouldn't be such a problem. I never understood why they're dying of starvation and still thinking that reproduction is a good idea.

And mother-child transmission rates are fairly low if the mother gets the proper medical attention.
 
2005-08-16 09:16:11 PM
So, what, we feed the gays and IV drug users to the crocs?

/completely kidding
//no, really, I'm only kidding
///wonders how many 'homophobe' comments he's gonna get now
 
2005-08-16 09:16:22 PM
Yea, if this does turn out to come true, the pharmaceutical companies won't work together to quash it . .. they'll be clamoring for exclusive rights to distribute it in their respective countries.
 
2005-08-16 09:18:12 PM
2005-08-16 09:12:31 PM ferrocene

from wikipedia:

"Ozone therapy has blossomed into a thriving field of alternative medicine, and there are a host of claimed applications above and beyond what has actually been verified by studies. Ozone treatments are dangerous, however, since ozone is highly corrosive.

In the USA ozone therapy is illegal, as the FDA has not approved its use on humans. At least one death has been attributed to application of ozone through insufflation in the USA. "Air cleaners" which produce "activated oxygen", i.e. ozone, are often sold in the US nonetheless. See Air ioniser.

Ozone has been found to convert cholesterol in the blood stream to plaque (which causes hardening and narrowing of arteries). This cholesterol product has also been implicated in Alzheimer's disease, suggesting a link between the inflammatory response associated with head injury and Alzheimer's."

Yeah. Where do I sign?


 
2005-08-16 09:18:14 PM
oxygen is bad for your bodys cells mmmkay. thats why anti-oxidants are so popular
 
2005-08-16 09:19:08 PM
always mandatory in AIDS threads:



You have AIDS...


/window seat
 
2005-08-16 09:19:11 PM
Well it's better than raping babies to cure AIDS like they do in parts of Sub-Saharan Africa. Seriously, some witch-doctor tells these guys that sex with a virgin will cure them of AIDS, and since most girls have lost their virginity by 13, the most easily accessible virgins are little kids.

Funnily enough, ignorant Europeans used to think sex with a virgin would cure syphillis a few centuries back as well.
 
2005-08-16 09:19:17 PM
Oh, and by the way, why would a corporation give the cure for AIDS to Africans? There's no money in that.
 
2005-08-16 09:20:01 PM
VoterApathy: And mother-child transmission rates are fairly low if the mother gets the proper medical attention.

Not in Africa, where something like one in three childran die from AIDS before becoming a teenager.
 
2005-08-16 09:20:50 PM
VoterApathy,

Well, when you have had an infant mortality rate soaring for the last thousand or two years and then introduce fun things like water filtration technology and western medical science you have to expect a lag time in getting the population to stabilize. Customs and Cultural Change don't happen overnight.

And: Way to go on the generalizing the people of an entire continent. It shows true class.
 
2005-08-16 09:21:06 PM
Ermm,that medical ozone deal,accordng to the link they're shooting ozone up peoples asses 3 times a day after an enema and telling them to hold it for a while!
Where do I sign up for this miracle cure.
Moooon riiiiiiiiiver.
 
2005-08-16 09:21:31 PM
The average American doesn't give a damn about Africa anyway, regardless of how much they pretend.
 
2005-08-16 09:23:06 PM
VoterApathy: The average American doesn't give a damn about Africa anyway, regardless of how much they pretend.

Since when do you speak for the average American?
 
2005-08-16 09:23:19 PM
calling dr rosenpenis
 
2005-08-16 09:23:49 PM
feistyALgal: Actually, there IS a cure for HIV -- it's Medical Ozone.

HAHAHAHA!!

I DARE you to infect yourself with HIV and then try to 'cure' yourself with Medical Ozone. That all-natural, herbal/homeopathic/new-age medicine is nothing but a load of snake-oil crap. Trust me, I got badly ripped off by one of those homeopathic 'doctors' when I was at the gullible age of 16 and thought that my ADHD and insomnia could be cured by his vitamin supplements.
 
2005-08-16 09:25:18 PM
Looks like stewie has "pwn3d" me (oh, that's so fresh! are you going to hit me with a titanic reference next?)

so here's the local copy of the singing sensation that's sweeping the nation:

You have AIDS
 
2005-08-16 09:26:49 PM
snarfyboy: Since when do you speak for the average American?

He is when he says we don't care about Africa. The plain truth is that we don't. Why do you think we stepped in to prevent genocide in Kosovo but sat on our ass during Rwanda?

It's not just us either. The rest of the world doesn't care about Africa either. It is the forsaken continent.
 
2005-08-16 09:26:58 PM
Well, despite most people's claims that they care about starving Africans, they typically don't do anything about it.
 
2005-08-16 09:31:32 PM
VoterApathy,

The issue here isn't the genocide and starvation of many Africans caused by civil war, famine, etc.

The issue is that there are millions of people on every continent living with HIV and AIDS and you went and made the lame ass claim that it is most often the person's fault that they got HIV/AIDS.
 
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