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12166 clicks; posted to Main » on 16 Aug 2005 at 3:38 PM (11 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2005-08-16 09:03:56 AM  
I can see the big G doing a lot of things, but being an ISP is a whole new bag of worms to them. That being said, if it was truly nationwide, and something like $20/month for no ads or free with ads, they could make tons of money.
 
2005-08-16 09:06:18 AM  
I'd pay it.
 
2005-08-16 09:06:32 AM  
We are one step closer to having targeted ads beamed into our brains.


/anyone seen my tin-foil stetson sitting around?
 
2005-08-16 09:12:30 AM  
tolenfark: We are one step closer to having targeted ads beamed into our brains.

And pr0n.

/Gotta take the good with the bad.
 
2005-08-16 09:43:47 AM  
I think Google's goal is total world domination.
 
2005-08-16 09:44:31 AM  
So, in theory, with the Google WiFi I could do a GIS for T-Girls while attending church.

I like it.
 
2005-08-16 09:53:48 AM  
Prediction: In 10 years the only wires inside a house will be for electricity... kinda like 50 years ago. Everything else will be WiFi - phone, TV, internet, stereo speakers, and other services still to be invented.

I am 100% confident of this prediction because I fully wired my house with Cat-5e when I bought it 5 years ago.
 
2005-08-16 09:58:10 AM  
The logistics of this make make it not happen, in big cities...yeah I could see it, everywhere? No.

802.11 is too weak for something like this - you would need too many APs, towers build, roof rights etc.. ugly - unless they do some sort of mesh network, which will still only get the big cities.

802.16 / 802.20 maybe but still would be a huge huge huge project....802.20 (16 doesnt have mobility) and if Google buys Skype for VoIP would hit the cell companies hard - but this would be a INCREDIBLY expensive document
 
2005-08-16 09:58:51 AM  
....and my prediction in 2007 Google changes its name to Skynet
 
2005-08-16 10:05:22 AM  
 
2005-08-16 10:06:01 AM  
There was a great headline from a year or so ago when Google went public:

"Google Vows Not to Be 'Evil'; Wall Street Concerned"

I have no documentation to support this but I done seen it.
 
2005-08-16 10:24:29 AM  
"So is Google about to offer free Net access to everyone?"

Coz, you know, that worked so well back in 1999... Netzero anyone? Oh right, they're still around... but newer internet users might not remember that the "zero" part used to mean it was free.

Of course, if anyone can make 'free' internet access work, it'll probably be Google. They'll develop a web browser that tracks absolutely everything you view on the internet through your Google-WiFi, and then not only floods the webpages you view with targeted ads, but sends you targeted ads over your Google-DVR while you watch tv, and on your Google-cell phone, and your Google-newspaper...
 
2005-08-16 10:52:57 AM  
large area free wi-fi access would pretty much kill RIAA dead in the water. As long as you were smart enough to play with your MAC address and run thru a proxy it would be virtually impossible (or merely extremely time consuming and expensive) to track you down and stop you from trading whatever the hell you want. It would also make a mockery of various computer crime laws.
 
2005-08-16 11:49:44 AM  
On page one of the article (link goes to page two currently), it explains that Google could actually save money in bandwidth fees by carrying its own traffic all the way, especially as more and more high-bandwidth applications (Google video, maps, etc.) are developed. So theoretically it could be cheaper for them to give Internet access away to consumers.

I would not be surprised to see Google acquire Sanswire for their wide-area WiFi airships.

Life as we know it is on the verge of significant change. Once cheap wireless access is available everywhere, the way everything is done will change significantly.
 
2005-08-16 12:05:31 PM  
the way everything is done will change significantly.

Yeah, a lot of lawyers will be crying into their legal briefs...
 
2005-08-16 12:25:51 PM  
I don't see how Google woudl save money as the traffic will still have to go to the Internet at one point - they may get some better rates by buying bigger pipes in fewer communities and linking them together but if they want any diversity in their network they are back to where they started....unless they completely link coast to coast back to their servers.... which I doubt they can
 
2005-08-16 03:44:22 PM  
Google can save the world if they choose to do so.

They need to proceed very carefully, but I think they can do it.

They have that rare trifecta of smarts, good looks and cool. Most of us have two, they have all three.
 
2005-08-16 03:48:49 PM  
The important question is, "Is Mr. Durden building an army?"
 
2005-08-16 03:51:02 PM  
Oh, and BTW San Francisco is hands down the coolest city in the US and possibly on the entire planet.

The best people choose to live there.
They are so advanced technologically and culturally.
They are so diverse, and know that their diversity is their strength.

And that city is *hated* by Washington D.C, for all of the above reasons.
 
2005-08-16 03:52:36 PM  
arniebuteft

Coz, you know, that worked so well back in 1999... Netzero anyone? Oh right, they're still around... but newer internet users might not remember that the "zero" part used to mean it was free.

Netzero still provides people with 10hrs/month free, with free email. They don't advertise it anymore.

/offtopic
 
2005-08-16 03:53:15 PM  
This will make either Google the savior of the internet, or Emperor of the Evil Empire. I hope they keep their edge and do things right.
 
2005-08-16 03:53:19 PM  
[image from images2.dmusic.com too old to be available]

"It's so easy to use, and the surgery to implant it in the base of your skull is so painless, it's no wonder I'm number one!"
 
2005-08-16 03:54:37 PM  
It's nice to see the tech sector is back on its feet & trying to take over the planet again.
 
2005-08-16 03:54:40 PM  
This nation wireless thing will never happen.

Cell phone carries don't even cover places like the state of Wyoming yet. But, if Google beat them there with wireless internet, I'd be all for it.

/Project 2501 biatches
 
2005-08-16 03:57:41 PM  
Hopefully, that rumor about Google implementing iTunes into Google is true.. Apple could use a good partner like Google.
 
2005-08-16 03:59:37 PM  
I hate to be the doom and gloom guy, but I predict not only that Google has zippy chance of making any waves in the ISP business, but also that Google will be inconsequential within 10 years, much like Netscape is now.

/I do like Google as much as the next guy, but the Intarweb is a jealous mistress... or something like that
 
2005-08-16 04:00:54 PM  
 
2005-08-16 04:04:03 PM  
Oh noes!!!!!! Targetted Ads!!!!

I'd much rather see Ads for shiat I don't want.

assholes
 
2005-08-16 04:04:56 PM  
coolbeans56: This will make either Google the savior of the internet, or Emperor of the Evil Empire. I hope they keep their edge and do things right.

I don't think that's really Google's choice. When the storm troopers put a gun to their head and tell them that they work for Emperor now, I wonder how many of the employees there will really hold onto their high moral ground.
 
2005-08-16 04:05:06 PM  
Stompn_Tom
A city in ohio was developing a 36 sq mile hotspot by using telephone poles and already exisiting cell phone towers and large buildings. Im under a non disclosure about most of it, but it would have been a major money maker if the company behind the install wouldnt have lost their owner(death). Their biggest issue during the beta trials was for some reason, some smart guy picked the ghetto for some of the trials... People were actually SHOOTING the access points, and some of the techs refused to go in and replace them.
 
2005-08-16 04:06:32 PM  
Stompn_Tom
....and my prediction in 2007 Google changes its name to Skynet

I agree. Google will soon become self-aware and learn at an exponential rate.

threegee
The important question is, "Is Mr. Durden building an army?"

In Tyler we trusted...
 
2005-08-16 04:06:51 PM  
If Google was getting into a WiFi ISP service, I would imagine they'd use the longer range WiMax standard. Granted, WiMax still has its problems, but would be the most feasable way to go.
/didn't RTFA
 
2005-08-16 04:08:16 PM  
WiFi = Old & Busted
 
2005-08-16 04:08:26 PM  
splishsplashfark:

So, in theory, with the Google WiFi I could do a GIS for T-Girls while attending church.

T-Girls? I'm way too afraid to GIS sometimes. Care to elaborate?
 
2005-08-16 04:09:19 PM  
studebaker hoch

Oh, and BTW San Francisco is hands down the coolest city in the US and possibly on the entire planet.

No. It has its good points, and being in the area I DO like it for the most part, but The City (the arrogance of this term alone is apparent--it's not even the biggest city in the Bay Area) just as fake as a place like LA, people just wear different masks--Political Correctness instead of Botox and Silicone. It's quickly becoming merely a playground for the rich and the people who live off them directly. They love live in little bubbles like North Beach or Nob Hill and biatch about the rest of the world while having absolutely no contact with it. How can they try to save the world while having hundreds of filthy bums on Market Street? Lets clean up your own back yards first, shall we?

The arrogance of some of the people astounds me. They make elitest statements like, I dunno, these?

The best people choose to live there.
They are so advanced technologically and culturally.
They are so diverse, and know that their diversity is their strength.


See?

And that city is *hated* by Washington D.C, for all of the above reasons.

Not to mention the rest of the country... but the weather is beautiful!
 
2005-08-16 04:09:41 PM  
www.skyenetwireless.com
 
2005-08-16 04:11:24 PM  
Have we learned nothing from the new Battlestar Galactica show ? Wireless networks are just welcome mats for a Cylon takeover, friends.

//Had more fun "online" with his 300 baud coupler, back in the day
 
2005-08-16 04:12:41 PM  
Google is a good company, and seems genuine in their intentions... but this much consolidation of media scares me.

Didn't people praise MS on their way up, too?
 
2005-08-16 04:14:38 PM  
be afraid GreenAdder, be very afraid.
 
2005-08-16 04:15:02 PM  
T-Girl is something that people normally don't GIS in church. It is a reference to transsexuals or transgendered folks (I think there is a difference, not sure).
 
2005-08-16 04:17:31 PM  
Oh, and BTW San Francisco is hands down the coolest city in the US and possibly on the entire planet.

You really need to get out of California.
 
2005-08-16 04:17:45 PM  
Will Al Gore allow this?
 
2005-08-16 04:23:20 PM  
Will it still be in Beta, 5 years down-the-road?
 
2005-08-16 04:25:04 PM  
Weaver95, shut up man!!!! jeez.
 
2005-08-16 04:25:46 PM  
Sometime's its hard for me to express the love I feel towards Google. These guys seem like they really care about doing things right, and if they take over every aspect of business, I won't miss the old ways one bit.
 
2005-08-16 04:26:54 PM  
Biteableniles

Netzero still provides people with 10hrs/month free, with free email. They don't advertise it anymore.

Care to elaborate? I'm still pissed at Netzero. I remember their promise that nobody should ever have to pay for internet access.
 
2005-08-16 04:28:17 PM  
elvindeath

//Had more fun "online" with his 300 baud coupler, back in the day

Man, I thought I was the only one old enough to remember 300 baud. Whenever I hear people biatch about slow downloads, I always think back to when we went from 300 to 1200 baud. Smokin'! And when I got that math coprocesser installed in the IBM XT - that was speed, my friend. Dang kids these days, etc. etc,.
 
2005-08-16 04:29:07 PM  
Studebaker hoch. The average income of San Fran is $250,000. Liberal elitists are so easy.
 
2005-08-16 04:38:22 PM  
Googlezon

Nuff said
 
2005-08-16 04:40:50 PM  
ThusSpokeKayvon
Not to mention the rest of the country... but the weather is beautiful!

Not really. Way to cold in the summer for me.
 
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