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(KCRA)   Bullies call teen gay. Teen says he's not, gets lawyer -- makes school district bend over to tune of $250K   (kcra.com) divider line 593
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2005-08-13 11:43:37 AM
dangerprobe

The parents repeatedly talked with the principal of both the schools the incidents took place at. They were involved. They wished for the offending students to be suspended on one occasion. But they were definitely involved.

Morsghost

Telling kids who get bullied, namely those who get bullied regularly and in the most vicious manner, to just suck it up is like telling a battered spouse to just suck it up. Or telling he a child who gets beaten by one or both of their parents to just suck it up.
 
2005-08-13 11:43:52 AM
cargrrl82 [TotalFark]

Oh yes so let's blame the kid because the article isn't thoroug enough. Brilliant.

And it's more brilliant to invent things not in the article to support your hypothesis with no basis in fact?

the only example and/or claim of bullying given is that they called him various epithets for homosexual. With most schools policys on physical violence these days if they'd have been in fistfights it would've almost certainly been mentioned. And since this kid whined to the office all the time I'd guess he wouldn't have kept quiet about a fight.

Had the kid not been a giant wuss he'd have started replying in a very swishy voice with things like "Hey, it was your turn to catch last night big boy." or, "yeah your sister always says I'm kinda gay for liking nailing her in the ass so much." or "well after nailing your mom a few time I figured gay was a better way to go."

But, no you guys are right, it's so much better to sue any time life doesn't go your way.
 
2005-08-13 11:43:56 AM
fearuncertaintydoubt:

This lawsuit is the inevitable result of the ridiculous paternalistic attitude of authority that only continues to get worse. If you are being bullied, you can't fight back. Either in school or the real world. If you defend yourself, you will wind up in jail, or kicked out of school. Period. You could be getting picked on, punched, pushed, threatened, etc. on a daily basis, and if you retaliate with enough force to attempt to stop it, you will be prosecuted.

Now, you are expected to "let the authorities handle it," People who have restraining orders out against others are suing police for not protecting them. Why? Because the police say, don't take the law into your own hands; we'll protect you. So when they don't, they should be liable. In school, you're supposed to let the administration fight your battles. I can only assume that there is a paper trail showing that this kid brought it repeatedly to the attention of the school and they did nothing about it. So they won't let him fight for himself and they won't stop the problem. They should be sued. Maybe they will realize that they need to let kids sort out their problems instead of acting like Big Mother now that it can cost them thousands or millions of dollars per harassed kid (and how many of those are at every school?).

We have surrendered the right of self-defense in this country. If this suit helps win it back, I'm all for it.




Well stated! ...and worth repeating
 
2005-08-13 11:44:06 AM
A lot of people here, especially cargrrl82, need to read up a bit on what happened at Columbine.
 
2005-08-13 11:44:38 AM
Pockafrusta

I'm going to go out on a limb and postulate that they have some insurance. I don't like to speak for other states but I know Maryland schools have to be insured.
 
2005-08-13 11:44:45 AM
No damages to the bullies. However, there are damages being assessed to the School District which will be picked up by the taxpayers and not by the administration who ignored the problem. That's not right.
 
2005-08-13 11:45:22 AM
Meh, lots of manly men around here it seems.
 
2005-08-13 11:46:20 AM
Well most schools would punish the victim of bullying more than the Bullies.
 
2005-08-13 11:47:01 AM
"mindbomb33
Our state passed a "anti-bullying" law last year because it seems to be important to protect our kids from reality. Wait 'til these pantywaists find out how the adult world operates."

Yeah, let's let the bullies just grow up to be the local meth dealer, child molester, rapist, etc... Your right, there's no need to correct the miscreants since they demonstrate that they can give soooo much to those around them.
 
2005-08-13 11:47:11 AM
like fearuncertaintydoubt mentioned, theres no alternatives these days. If you fight the bully, you get an automatic suspension, hurt him bad enough, perhaps an expulsion. Most likely you'll end up in court for beating up some momma's 'sweet little baby' who would never hurt a fly.

Back in our parents days, you could meet the bully with a couple friends and teach him a lesson, no police reports, no parental intervention, and life went on. Now, it just builds up until someone comes to school with a knife or gun.

I was bullied all through highschool, grow a pair, get mean. 250k? Bullshiat. I don't condone bullying, but I hate this generation of wusses and weaklings and the parents causing it to happen.
 
2005-08-13 11:47:13 AM
Digitalstrange

Are you a therapist or just play one on Fark?
 
2005-08-13 11:48:16 AM
Pockafrustra

Um someone calls you a name and you hit them with a 2x4? That's assualt and battery, and if you strike them about the head possibly assault with intent to commit grievous bodly harm. Unless you find a DA who is a in a really bad mood. Then it's assault with a deadily weapon. Brilliant thing to encourage kids to do.

smoovement

there's a difference between being treated fairly and not being subject to taunts, baseless rumour and innuendo. Absence of the taunts, rumour and innuendo does not mean everyone gets treated fairly. If you haven't noticed colleges are hardly fair, they only accept some applicants. This doesn't however mean there is any malice involved or intent to intimidate or any nastiness involved.
 
2005-08-13 11:49:14 AM
Pockafrusta
As a homeowner paying school taxes without the luxury of having children I want the school district to provide an environment where all the children can learn to be productive citizens-- and that does not include providing a haven for bullies.
Personal responsibility? How about the principal just does his job? How about the school board fulfills its responsibilities? How about the parents reign in their bully children?
 
2005-08-13 11:49:21 AM
I was a jock AND a nerd.
 
2005-08-13 11:50:29 AM
Its always good when the Bully gets his/her ass kicked. Always.
 
2005-08-13 11:51:45 AM
DigitalStrange

In another article about the story it mentioned that in addition to taunts there was the presence of related rumours and inneundo. In other words a concious effort to smear someone. And this persisted over 5 years at two schools. That's a fairly large amount of explaining away the school district would have. And given the outcome the jury wasn't buying the school districts answering away.
 
2005-08-13 11:51:58 AM
Digitalstrange: Had the kid not been a giant wuss he'd have started replying in a very swishy voice with things like "Hey, it was your turn to catch last night big boy." or, "yeah your sister always says I'm kinda gay for liking nailing her in the ass so much." or "well after nailing your mom a few time I figured gay was a better way to go."

Did you go to public school? Had I done that at my school, I would be dead right now.

/not hyperbole
 
2005-08-13 11:52:58 AM
irreverance - so then I guess all this BS these wannabe bullies are spewing is pissing you off, too?
 
2005-08-13 11:52:58 AM
xloptunny

The only weeklings in the case are the school district, two principals and the bullies.
 
2005-08-13 11:53:06 AM
SpacePunk:
Your right, there's no need to correct the miscreants since they demonstrate that they can give soooo much to those around them.


Heh - I actually think it's kind of funny to hear how many people actually think it is the assault victim's fault somehow, or that the assailant is doing the victim some kind of a favour.

You could have heard the same kind of crap spouted decades ago by wife-beaters, rapists, mob lynchers, or any other kind of stupidity.
 
2005-08-13 11:53:08 AM
RabidWeasel
Where the hell did you go to school, lord of the flies high?
Where were your parents?
 
2005-08-13 11:54:03 AM
eraser8: How do you figure?

Besides, we are already a nation of fatasses. That's making us an unhealthy nation. We need more school athletics -- not less.


When schools stop turning a blind eye to the muscle-laden, I-Am-The-School-God athlete and allowing them to bully kids because, coincidentally, they bring in lots and lots of money to the school, I will go along with your statement. Otherwise..... fark 'em.
 
2005-08-13 11:55:24 AM
Grandmaster T: there are damages being assessed to the School District which will be picked up by the taxpayers and not by the administration who ignored the problem. That's not right.

Contact the school board. Indicate that you will not tolerate this kind of behaviour from students in the schools. Make it a public issue. Ensure that complaints be dealt with properly and that a principal's job could be on the line.

Or eat it.
 
2005-08-13 11:55:29 AM
cargrrl82 writes: In another article about the story it mentioned that in addition to taunts there was the presence of related rumours and inneundo.

In other words, Theno had such an unhealthy and warped view of homosexuality that suggestions that he mike be gay drove him to depression. Rational people do not go apoplectic when others call them gay.
 
2005-08-13 11:57:04 AM
Kind of reminds me Liberace suing someone that wrote that he "seemed a little fruity". The writer tried using the defense that he was just referring to his cologne, but the judge didn't buy it and awarded damages to Liberace. Then as we all know, several years later Liberace got AIDS and died. And I don't think anyone thinks he got AIDS in any heterosexual way. So my question is can the school district sue if it turns out the kid is gay after all? Maybe they'll set up a sting operation to lure him into a compromising position. That'd be the ultimate follow-up to this story.
 
2005-08-13 11:57:50 AM
eraser8

What I'm hearing from you is that you expect a kid to be in the position of a healthy adult. He's a kid.
 
2005-08-13 11:58:15 AM
Awarding this kid with money at his age is the worst thing that can happen to him. He already proved he couldn't take care of this situation himself, now he learns that complaining will give him money. If he couldnt take care of that situation how will be able to handle that much money at a young age? I pray he won't be completely messed up in 5 years and set in his ways for the rest of his life.

And where were his parents through all this, couldn't they move him to a school a few miles down the road?

/not a homophobe
 
2005-08-13 12:00:06 PM
GoldDude

Ultimate followup: The punks who are the bullys realize what slime they are and mend their ways.

Your scenario is much more likely.
 
2005-08-13 12:00:08 PM
eraser8

In other words, the students involved were spreading rumours and libeling Theno behind his back. Furthermore the school did nothing to stop it. Knowingly spreading false information about someone, regardless of what the information is, with intent to do harm is frowned upon by the law. Goes under the heading of libel and slander.
 
2005-08-13 12:01:35 PM
Whey ghey!

(his actions and himself)
 
2005-08-13 12:01:38 PM
I was bullied alot in middle school and the beginning of high school. I tried fighting back, but I was usually outnumbered. So, once I got high school, I tried a different strategy, and this is what I suggest to all of you who are currently being bullied: Find people who feel the same way as you do. I can guarantee you, in any large group there should at least be one other person who gets picked on. There is safety in numbers. That's what I did, and after freshman year, I never got seriously picked on. It helps if you can join an extracurricular organization that has a lot of misfits in it, marching band in my case.
Second, be nice to everybody, and I mean everybody. It'll confuse your enemies, and score points with everyone else. Eventually people will realize that you are in fact a decent guy and that the bullies are assholes, and things will tend to swing in your favor.
 
2005-08-13 12:02:06 PM
answer the phone

The kid tried to handle it by going to the principal of both schools in question. The parents went and talked to the principals on multiple occasions. And just how would he handle it when it's not one kid but several kids, who arent' just calling him names but spreading false rumours? That's not his job to fix, it's the school's job since it's taking place on school grounds during school time.
 
2005-08-13 12:02:10 PM
answer the phone

He's at welding school. You have to remember that the lawyer will get at least half.
 
2005-08-13 12:03:47 PM
Rann Xerox writes: When schools stop turning a blind eye to the muscle-laden, I-Am-The-School-God athlete...

Where the fark did all of you people go to high school? It sounds like something out of a cheesy made-for-TV teen drama about the skinny nerd who overcomes adversity...except most of you don't want kids to overcome adversity. Most of you seem to want the kids protected from any hint that life involves problems that need to be solved independently.

Back to the point, I don't think athletes or athletic programs ought to be scapegoats for other kids' adjustment issues.
 
2005-08-13 12:03:53 PM
Some of you are reading into this like all they did was call him gay a couple of times. This is farking Kansas people. The rally-point of "God Hates Fags"? Gay bashing is pretty much institutionalized, and to be labelled gay, whether by your own coming out or by someone else's homophobia, means you are going to suffer. Let me tell you from first hand experience, that being straight and being labelled as gay and harrassed for it isn't a fun experience. I think in these last two years of school I just may take this kids example. Fark the school budget: if the officials don't do their job, I think I'm entitled to some kind of moneys.
 
2005-08-13 12:04:16 PM
2wolves

standard contingency fee is 33%, and there's various caps in place for fees based on certain awards though those vary state to state. I know of no place that would allow the lawyer to take over half the $250,000 awarded.
 
2005-08-13 12:04:29 PM
Oh boo hoo, I got made fun of in school....probably a nut case to begin with and that is why they ridiculed him....oh too bad for him...look, I was made fun of a lot in school...I wore a patch over my eye for the first 13 years of my life and started wearing a hearing aid at about age 11. I got to be a bad enough ass kicker that they started leaving me alone and it was OK. Poor baby; I don't think they should have given him a dime
 
2005-08-13 12:05:04 PM
eraser8

Ayn Rand School for Leadership.
 
2005-08-13 12:05:05 PM
2wolves writes: What I'm hearing from you is that you expect a kid to be in the position of a healthy adult. He's a kid.

He'll never be a healthy adult if he continues to overreact and seek out others to protect him from reality.
 
2005-08-13 12:05:51 PM
eraser8

there is a track record of schools taking it easy on athletes when it comes to discipline issues. Like not suspending football players because then they couldn't play in the big game this weekend. Isn't like high schools are the only ones either, there's a nice history of some colleges doing the same thing.
 
2005-08-13 12:05:58 PM
JESUS CHRIST - stop trying to rationalize being a douchebag bully who somehow enjoys picking on people! And recognize the fact that not everyone reacts to the same stimulus in the same way! This is becoming the sort of conversation that makes me doubt the human race!
 
2005-08-13 12:07:11 PM
ZzeusS

Why couldnt you stand up for yourself like everyone else? Why is it someone elses responsibility to stand up for you?
 
2005-08-13 12:07:29 PM
eraser8

He'll never be a healthy adult if he continues to overreact and seek out others to protect him from reality.

Kind of like...calling the police? Calling the fire department?
 
2005-08-13 12:07:29 PM
lovehate - Yeah, pretty much. My parents divorced when I was three, so Dad really wasn't in the picture. If I complained to Mom, she'd just call the school dictrict, who would basically tell her there's nothing they can do, despite the fact they knew damn well what was happening. After awhile I learned to just stop fighting and take it. It seemed to make things better.

Around grade 10 I started lifting weights on a daily basis, I read Guns and Ammo in class and earned a black belt in Tae Kwon Do by my senior year. I admit TKD isn't great for self-defense, but I earned the reputation of being a total physco. People stopped bullying me, but I was persona non grata at my school. I had a handful of friends, but I was never really invited to any parties or outings. It's like I didn't exist. Oddly enough, that feeling of not existing or mattering is what has followed me to this day.
 
2005-08-13 12:07:32 PM
cargrrl82

Around here I have heard tales of extreme "office expenses." Since it was Federal Court you may be 100% correct. Still, the kid is going to welding school not out buying an H2.
 
2005-08-13 12:07:43 PM
eraser8

Give me your name, all of you coworkers' names, numbers and emails, and I'll go smear you to the point of no return. Then when they're all out refusing to associate with you, you can tell me about dealing with reality. Or what you don't like the idea of being smeared based on BS?
 
2005-08-13 12:07:46 PM
Kids call your kid gay at school = worth 250k

School system fails to educate your kid = worth ZERO

Hmmmm, priorities.

...

When I was much younger, age 8 -9, ( I'm white) I got called the n-word by this kid. I told the teacher. I got in trouble along with the kid. Because I felt insulted for being called the n-word. I got nothing for it but punishment. I guess it doesn't work the same for the g-word.
 
2005-08-13 12:09:18 PM
2wolves

True enough. I sure don't see this as a ploy to get money just so the kid can get himself an Escalade. At the same time given the route the lawyer went with he wasn't looking at this case as an easy cashcow either.
 
2005-08-13 12:09:46 PM
cargrrl82
there is a track record of schools taking it easy on athletes when it comes to discipline issues. Like not suspending football players because then they couldn't play in the big game this weekend. Isn't like high schools are the only ones either, there's a nice history of some colleges doing the same thing.

This was especially true in my Catholic high school, where there were so few students that all of the football team was also the baseball team, the basketball team, rowing team, etc.

Incidentally, I was picked on all through high school for being a computer geek and having red hair. It ended after I threw the quarterback through a trophy case. Amazingly, I never got in trouble for it.
 
2005-08-13 12:10:31 PM
I swear to God the world has gone completely farkin insane.

Can I sue the kid for being a worthless pussy and give the money back to the school?
 
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