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2005-08-03 07:49:57 PM
MorphOSX:

so not to be a downer, but I have to ask: at what point is enough enough? I mean, I remember back when games were about storylines and accomplishing tasks in order to achieve a goal. Even HALO, though thinly veiled, has an actual storyline if you pay attention.

The GTA games, now this...they're nothing but rampant orgies of blood and gore that have no value whatsoever.


The GTA games have storylines, albeit criminal ones, but storylines nonetheless. I'm guessing you've never played any of them.

/just sayin
 
2005-08-03 07:50:53 PM
MorphOSX:

Value? In a video game?? ah c'mon... the way i see it, games are supposed to be fun. ive never liked a video game that required taking notes and difficult problem solving, if i wanted to do that id go to school on saturdays just for the hell of it. although its debatable whether or not "fun" should now be defined by how many things burst into flames and get beat to a bloody pulp, i think its still just a game.

/doom nerd
 
2005-08-03 07:51:49 PM
I agree with Thwack. one of the things games like these remind me of is a line from Jurassic Park of all things. Your [game designers] were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think about whether or not they should.

why do we need a game that does nothing but glorify bullying behavior? I know that it's the parents' responsibility to teach their children right and wrong, but how do parents successfully teach that to their children when they can go over to cousin billy's house and play a game like this that makes it 'cool' to do the exact opposite?

Not every kid is going to listen to his parents when they tell him not to do these things, but rather will go with what is 'cool' that day of the week. Look at what happened with the kids wearing jeans four times too big that hang around their knees. They did it because it was cool, totally oblivious to the actual meaning of the behavior.

/goes back to his hole
 
2005-08-03 07:52:45 PM
Blood orgies, okay. Orgies...offensive!!
 
2005-08-03 07:53:59 PM
All I can say is vote with your dollars...YOU DAMN WELL KNOW THAT THIS GAME WOULD NOT EXIST IS THERE WERE NOT DEMAND!!

If they don't make any money on the game, they will not make the game anymore. GTA/SA was hugely profitable so they are completely verified as a game company.

PROFIT=LEGITIMACY

No profit= No Legitimacy

I for one think it would be fun to play and I choose to support this freedom of speech and expression so parents...get your parenting caps on and parent your farking children you idiots!!

\will never be a parent
\\wishes more people would think the same way
 
2005-08-03 07:55:10 PM
FarkinFarker:

I have played GTA 3, and I admit there are storylines in the games. However, the games are so open-ended that they don't necessarily always present the storylines.

That being said, I suppose i was trying to refer to the fact that usually games like Halo or Brothers in Arms or Medal of Honor are gory, but they have an overall storyline that gives more sense of involvement to the player, who is working for the overall good of things, not just simply trying to see how many crimes he can commit in one day.

*shrugs*

/not much of a gamer besides RPGs and storyline games.
 
2005-08-03 07:55:16 PM
I...CAN'T...WAIT!!!!

:)

w0oT!
 
2005-08-03 07:55:39 PM
MorphOSX: why do we need a game that does nothing but glorify bullying behavior?

Why did I need game where the main character calls his mentor using a piece of bacon? Where the area of the game is called the Meat Circus, and is quite literally that: a circus tent full of meat?

The answer is: Why not?
 
2005-08-03 07:56:17 PM
Oh, yes that smug Hillary Clinton. That's why I voted for Bush he's down with Grand Theft Auto. When will you left-wingers learn that censorship is not the answer? Vote Republican to ensure your freedom!
 
2005-08-03 07:56:54 PM
....? The person who posted this with that tag should relive MY childhood.

You'd think twice about using that tag for this sick shiat then, asshat.
 
2005-08-03 07:57:35 PM
portnoyd

Guess I just think there's a line at which harmless sillyness and some criminal behavior becomes just too over the top to be worth the cost of the game. Call me old-fashioned.
 
2005-08-03 07:57:47 PM
MorphOSX:

I have played GTA 3, and I admit there are storylines in the games. However, the games are so open-ended that they don't necessarily always present the storylines.

That's what makes the series great. You can sit down and play for hours doing the missions and continuing the storyline, or you can hop right in and go off stealing cars and raising hell for 30 minutes without bothering with the storyline if you want to.
 
2005-08-03 07:58:20 PM
Ha, kid stuff. If Rockstar really wanted to be edgy they'd call the game Bully Hunt, and have the main character picking off students and teachers in the entire district, and any cops that showed up. The bullies you could capture and torture. It'd be like a cross between Manhunt and GTA:SA.

/It would sell like hotcakes and you know it
 
2005-08-03 07:58:39 PM
MorphOSX: /not much of a gamer besides RPGs and storyline games.

That's pretty much everything but sports and puzzle games.
 
2005-08-03 07:59:41 PM
FarkinFarker:

Hey, that's cool. I prefer to blow off steam by having problem-solving and an immersive storyline to take my attention off of things, not simply a bloody free-for-all of rampant destruction. Although I admit I do sometimes like missions where I can be as grotesque as possible about my methods of killing while still accomplishing the mission.
 
2005-08-03 08:01:17 PM
I can't wait to get a hold of this on the PC, it'll be fun to relive my H.S. days again, but in a safe and non-indictable way.
 
2005-08-03 08:01:28 PM
portnoyd:

Games like Medal of Honor, Resident Evil, Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gate I&II, Icewind Dale, etc.

Immersive storyline gameplay.
 
2005-08-03 08:02:39 PM
JackBurton: Ach, Gott vom Himmel! Ze Goggles, zey do nuzing!

And for those of you wanting to scrub this image out of your skulls, here's a little detergent for you...



God bless your soul. *fap fap fap fap.....*

As long as this bully game lets you sodomize jocks and bullies with broken bottles I'm game!!! Bullying is not fun. Getting sweet revenge however... might be.
 
2005-08-03 08:02:40 PM
MorphOSX: I'm entirely more old-fashioned than you, and let me tell you: If the game is fun, I'll play it. Manhunt is absolutely more violent than GTA or Bully could hope to be, and it was a blast. State of Emergency was pretty violent, but the game got repetitive and dull within the first 10 minutes, so I returned it post-haste.
 
2005-08-03 08:05:26 PM
God did I love Carmageddon. Carmageddon 2 not so much, but Carmageddon rocked.
 
2005-08-03 08:05:29 PM
This is pure grade A shiat for the brain. Wastes of space get off on Rockstar games. Fags.
 
2005-08-03 08:06:38 PM
SICKEST TOP 51.

dammit. i thought there would be 51 video games for me to buy :(

it's called formatting and it makes our internets less stupid.
 
2005-08-03 08:06:50 PM
Rockstar has turned this country's newfound sense of puritanical morals into gold.

/awesome.
 
2005-08-03 08:07:25 PM
I'd much rather sing to a dead fetus.
 
2005-08-03 08:08:10 PM
My fiance works for Rockstar.

/useless factoid about my life:-P
//yay discounts!!
///no you can't have one
////slashy slashy
 
2005-08-03 08:08:52 PM
Speaking of Carmageddon... will someone please revive this series on the modern consoles? I would love to see a fairly realistic version of the game with online capabilities. Just imagine having 20+ players in a mad frenzy to race/demolish each other all while hunting pedestrians across a massive wasteland.
 
2005-08-03 08:10:31 PM
Bones3D_mac:

Hey man, ltns! Grabb me on AIM one of these days. Strange place to run into an old friend, hey?
 
2005-08-03 08:10:34 PM
Well, it's unanimous so far. No one with a degree of sense gives a fark.

/Looking forward to it


I may not have any sense, but I certainly don't condone this kind of game. I'm a huge console and PC gamer, but this concept takes gaming in a very irresponsible direction.

There's been a massive upsurge in human cruelty over the last few years, and the last thing we need is a nation of 13yr olds learning that beating helpless people equates to winning.

What the fark is the matter with you people.
 
2005-08-03 08:10:49 PM
Mankind knew nothing of violence before the advent of R-Rated movies, rap lyrics and videogames.
 
2005-08-03 08:12:25 PM
i have been playing the original max payne(on pc), but i cannot find a way out of part 3 of the first chapter. -- the one where ya go into the seedy hotel room to find room 313. anyone know what i need/where i need to go to complete the level. i have given up playing the game out of frustration, and i was enjoying it a lot til i hit this snag.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks!
- gaming featherweight
 
2005-08-03 08:12:54 PM
Bullies made me into the antisocial loner I am today. If I had my way every bully would be identified and put down (executed) by age 10. Anything and I mean anything that glorifies this kind of behaviour is wrong. Just wrong. When you have to live every day in constant fear for years on end it just ain't funny. Now they are making a game out of it? It's no game. The evil thugs who used to beat me for shiats and giggles deserve nothing but death. Those who would love this game are the same type of evil thug. I don't think the game should be banned. Just those that buy it should be put into homes for the mentally deficient. It would be a good way to identify the sickos who get off on hurting people. The world is evil enough, why make it worse? I am sorry, but I have no sympathy for bullies. At any age. They are the lowest of the low and need nothing but the pain they think they have the right to dish out to the weak and powerless. The people who thought this game up are sick.
 
2005-08-03 08:13:56 PM
Brainwash: What the fark is the matter with you people.

I don't know. What the fark is the matter with you people who can't seem to grasp that the 13 year olds shouldn't possess the game with an M rating to begin with. It's called parental responsibility. You "blame the developer" types are helping to chip away at it even further.
 
2005-08-03 08:15:06 PM
Question marks are good. Too bad I didn't use one.
 
2005-08-03 08:15:11 PM
portnoyd

"You can call me with this nifty device." "Uhhh, isn't that a piece of bacon?"

As for the whole "Oh noes, I was bullied, this game is awful!!!" thing... I was bullied too, to the point of several neuroses, and that doesn't mean they shouldn't make this game. Considering how damn violent most games are and that most people are cool with that, does it *really* matter what form the violence takes? Beating up lamers... headbiting civilians... ultimately, what's the difference?
 
2005-08-03 08:16:38 PM
Does laughter in video games cause laughter in the streets?
 
2005-08-03 08:17:23 PM
MorphOSX:Immersive storyline gameplay.

I don't understand this. GTA would be more immersive I think, than the games you mentioned. While having a story of its own, the game lets you really be a thug. You can do whatever you like, and be as anti-social as you like. It's more immersive, because you don't exact run from point A to point B in real life, especially when you're on the run.

A game like Call of Duty sticks you right on that path and never lets you off. Because in war, you get in there, do your job, and get the fark out there. If you explore and wander, you end up dead.

What I don't understand is you mention RPGs. RPGs like the ones you mentioned have tons of usually-pointless-to-the-story sidequests that, I would think, take away from the immersion.
 
2005-08-03 08:17:53 PM
Brainwash


There's been a massive upsurge in human cruelty over the last few years, and the last thing we need is a nation of 13yr olds learning that beating helpless people equates to winning.

What the fark is the matter with you people.


What's wrong with us? It's simple: We understand that what's not ok for a 13 year old could be fine for a 27 year old and vice versa. Should all entertainment be limited to Sesame Street style because 4 year olds can't handle the content of anything more mature?
 
2005-08-03 08:18:54 PM
lordpwnalot

Your name should be changed to lordpwnedalot
 
2005-08-03 08:18:58 PM
Mankind knew nothing of violence before the advent of R-Rated movies, rap lyrics and videogames.

And Germany didn't bake millions of helpless people in ovens until they were shown it was ok.
 
2005-08-03 08:19:54 PM
Let's all point and laugh at Xevious. Ha ha!
 
2005-08-03 08:20:03 PM
Xevious: I agree, but this game needs to be BANNED and rockstar needs to close its doors. Kids always want to imitate what their peers / adults do. Next thing you know there will be bullies out there (I was also beat up BADLY as a kid every day at least 3 times) who go: "10 points! 100 points!" It's sick shiat like this that needs to be put out of business QUICKLY. These games aren't even games, they get off on cheap thrills. shiat like this doesn't deserve to be mainstream. People who sell it need to have their heads checked.
 
2005-08-03 08:20:10 PM
BRUTALITY

If the game is going to be rated then what's the problem?
Here is a suggestion for you parents "DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT let your kids buy this game"
 
2005-08-03 08:21:17 PM
Helen_Arigby:

Thank you. I was getting worried. A whole 20 minutes went by and no one picked up on the Psychonauts reference.

Screw Rockstar, support Double Fine and pick up Psychonauts. A brilliant game. On Xbox and PS2, and EB is selling it for $35.
 
2005-08-03 08:21:25 PM
Zero Signal: Very funny asshat. Please not I am a black belt in Tae Kwon-do now because of the bullys, true, I was bullied before high school, but not in and after highschool after I started following Tae Kwon-do lessons.
 
2005-08-03 08:21:42 PM
I was bullied relentlessly in school, so much that I dropped out, then later rejoined at an "alternative school" 5 years later. I am now full of bitter resentment and am extremely cynical towards humanity. Bullying is not a laughing matter, it destroys lives.
That being said, it looks like a fun game. Kids will be bullied as long as parents and schools refuse to do anything about it. Stopping a violent game from being released will have no effect.

Crosma

German version had robots, because even zombies were too much.

That was for realism, not censorship. The stories my brother has told me of Germany...
 
2005-08-03 08:21:49 PM
They should ban this game, and all games like it. Maybe we could round up the people who make and distribute this sort of thing and put them in camps. Also, we should burn some books, too.
 
2005-08-03 08:22:25 PM
not = note. typo.
 
2005-08-03 08:22:32 PM
Kind of sounds like Death Race 2000
But in Bully form...
 
2005-08-03 08:22:48 PM
God bless Rockstar games.

/plays violent video games and hasn't killed anyone in real life
 
2005-08-03 08:23:41 PM
Xevious
If I had my way every bully would be identified and put down (executed) by age 10.

So the bullied become the bullies. Heh.

How's it feel to be everything you hate?
 
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