Abortion is murder, but rape fetuses don't count.


maybe it's some kind of "spawn of satan" thing. children conceived through rape are inherently evil perhaps ? like redheads ?

pwhp_67

According to your own logic, that woman is still murdering an innocent life. That baby isn't to blame that its father is a rapist. Why does that woman have the right to "murder" her child just because she was raped?

Im aware of this, and I would hope she chooses to keep the child since it is not the childs fault, but I could also understand if she wanted to abort the child since it was also not her fault she was raped, its a hard stance to take, but thats just my opinion on the matter.

Abortion is murder, but rape fetuses don't count.

Yes, they do. So do incest fetuses. Dumb, but they still count.

This isn't really about left or right, conservative or liberal, pro-choice or pro-life...this is about some asshole ruining Halloween. And it would be nice if people could see that. Won't somebody think of the children and the sweet, sweet candy?

BE A PRO-"AS THE CIRCUMSTANCE WARRANTS" PERSON.

Is it that farking hard to understand that max and min laws cannot necessarily judge the situation accurately. Unusual circumstances can sway the ultimate decision towards either end, but to say that one end is better than the other is myopic, if not rediculous, at best.

I have come to realize (and apparently I'm a bit slow) but the in-your face with the pureed fetuses (or is it fetii?) Right-to-Lifers are really manifesting their own hidden macabre, twisted and vile tendencies and revel in the fact that they are allowed to do so in such a grandiose fashion because they have a large and trusted peer group to back up their perversion. If you want to force people to look at abortions do it from the comfort of inside your own four walls. The next time I see you standing on the side of the street holding 6 ft placards of mangled fetuses whilst I'm driving the 5 & 3yr olds to the store for groceries, I will err on the side of poor judgment and return with a baseball bat and add to the blood depicted on yer fancy little signs.

/sorry them fark-nuts really piss me off.

i believe in pro-active abortions.

those fundies stand outside the local clinic here too. giant, full color signs with a chopped up baby held up for everyone to see. they claim to be good people but could care less about the six yr old that sees this. anyone would have to admit that little kids couldn't possibly understand what that's about. all they see is something that gives them nightmares. how could that possibly help those brainwashed zealots cause?

I'll admit it. I've considered causing a scene, but they like it when they are confronted. it helps them feel persecuted. hmmmmm. maybe I could pose as one of them with a sign that says jesus farking hates all you sinning farking farks! maybe we'll be removed.

So who is this guy and how is he famous?

/ I'm serious, I have no idea who this guy is...

The people who publicly criticise the ACLU usually conveniently forget that it's the work of the ACLU that makes their public criticism possible.

Typical liberal thought - it's the members of our armed forces willing to put their lives on the line that makes our public criticism possible - not some lawyer sipping wine in their cushy office.

wait a second.. I think we're all missing something here

A PREACHER ENTERED A HALLOWEEN FLOAT

don't these snake handling, Baptist cocksuckers usually protest halloween as a satanic ritual?

this is progress people!!!

gallo caldo

I believe the minx Ms. Mynkoff pretty much said what I intended. I'm not such a huge fan of abortion, but I'm giving the right to have one to the mother. I believe she knows best if she can raise the baby or not. If there were a shortage of adoptable babies, then I'd be with you all the way.

But unfortunately, there are not, and until you're willing to take care of any lives you save from the abortion doctor, I suggest you stay out of the issue.

skipjack
Love to see liberals supporting freedom of speech. It just warms my heart.

how on earth is it a free speech issue when a private organization won't take certain actions because of the actions of another private entity?

AAAAARGH!!!!

If you're going to post lyrics, get them farking RIGHT, will you?

It goes...

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is good
Every sperm is needed
In your neighborhood

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
When a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate

And going back to earlier, it's...

The Inquisition... Let's begin
The Inquisition... Look out sin
We're on a mission to covert the Jews

We're gonna teach them... Wrong from right
We're gonna help them... See the light
And make an offer that they can't refuse

Confess... Don't be boring
Say 'yes'... Don't be dull
A fact... You're ignoring
It's better to lose your skull-cap than your skull

The Inquisition... Here we go
The Inquisition... What a show
We kno you're wishin' that we'd go away

But the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!

Now, having kids hand out that crap was pretty smart. I can't shout down a 5 year-old in a frilly dress, or cock-punch a 6 year-old. So not only were they employeeing these innocents in their propoganda, they were also hiding behind them. Sick.

No, but you can talk the kids into throwing those in the trash can.

Did that to a group of 5 year-olds that tried to hand me down a Chick Tract. I convinced them (quite easily) that he thought that everything was evil.

wait, wait wait.. I can say c-suckers, but not biatch?

/assumed a filter would pick that out
//apologies, please don't ban...

busterenjake: Why is it that pro-lifers are for the death penalty?

Why is this always the assumption?

/pro-life
//not catholic
///against the death penalty, the war, and mean doctors
////had a bad day

You're a mean one Reverend Grinch . . .

/To reinterate: Its about Halloween, not abortion.
//And its may favourite holiday, damit.

Anybody know the latest polls about how the country feels about abortion? CNN did one a few weeks back and it was roughly 70-30 in favor of choice.

Sure, polls essentially suck, but I wonder if even the GOP reeeeeally wants Roe v. Wade overturned (and push to abolish abortion at the state level) unless they want to commit political suicide.

hey, even paris hilton gets abortions regularly.

remember when her phone was jacked and posted online? one of her events was to "gotta get kill pills".

it even had the doctor's number.

Veon Dombrowski

journalist used to work for the miami newspaper or something, he taped some government council member or something, anyways he taped... I just lost interest sorry.

My friend and I once took a bunch of coat-hangers out when a few fundies had a pro-life shout-at-students-walking-past-you rally on our campus. We bandied the coat hangers around shouting "Free Abortion Wands! Get your Abortion Wand right here!"

Needless to say they weren't happy.

not some lawyer sipping wine in their cushy office.

"A lawyer, with his briefcase, can steal more money than 100 button men with guns" ~ Mario Puzo

/also apt for today's society: "You have to get rich in the dark".

mathmonkey

ok, how about the pro-lifers who run the country who are for the death penalty? bush, santorum, etc., etc...

/sorry for your bad day

I tend to agree with the good Rev., although his tactics seem to be lacking in good judgement. It's too easy to just kill your baby if it's inconvienient for you. (Barring medical problems with the pregnancy, or rape).

Shadow_weaveR Thanks for the info...

The people who publicly criticise the ACLU usually conveniently forget that it's the work of the ACLU that makes their public criticism possible.

The ACLU are a bunch of asshats. They take high-profile, outrageous cases to give themselves bona fides as defenders of individual liberty, but then align themselves with the jackbooted, intolerant wing of the socialist left on anything of broad social import. They're anti-speech, PC-up-the-butt morans.

/Used to be a member, then I found my home with the Federalists

Why is that funny? The ACLU's mandate is to protect people's constitutional rights, including freedom of speech. Just because this guy is an oozing butthole, he still has the right to address the public. The ACLU is there to protect everybody's rights, not just sane people's. The people who publicly criticise the ACLU usually conveniently forget that it's the work of the ACLU that makes their public criticism possible.


Correct.

People who hate the ACLU basically hate the constitution - or atleast they hate it when people who don't agree with them use their consitutional rights.

To this day I think one of the funniest things I've witnessed in my life is Rush Limbaugh accepting the help of the ACLU to protect his medical privacy records, while continuing to slam on them with his radio show. It's just funny on so many levels.

The city council dude killed himself in the lobby of the newspaper building, BANG right in the head! as a result of that fat guy....

I think it's time we resurrected "dead baby" jokes.

what's small, warm, pink and claws at the window?

a baby in a microwave

chewd: If i ever hear an argument against abortion that doesnt have its roots in belief in some god or afterlife or some other mythical nonsense i might reconsider my opinion on the matter. Theres far too many humans on this planet already, anything that lowers the birth-rate even just a little is a good thing IMHO.

You don't have to be religious to figure out the world would be a much better place in the long-run if people only did things they were willing to take responsibility for without harming others. People would think before having sex out of wedlock, the population would decrease to a manageable number, and taxpayers wouldn't have to support so many irresponsible people.

I have the bloody sign toting fundies near where I work. I see them all of the time. I have entertained the notion of plinking them with my pellet gun but they are mostly old ladies and really pathetic looking guys who are in no danger of impregnating anyone in the first place.

Veon Dombrowski:

So who is this guy and how is he famous?

/ I'm serious, I have no idea who this guy is...

I think he may be the great great great grandson of the HA HA quaker guy...

Typical liberal thought - it's the members of our armed forces willing to put their lives on the line that makes our public criticism possible - not some lawyer sipping wine in their cushy office.


typical conservative thought - thinks the only reason we have rights is through military force.



stupid retards, they are BOTH essential.

yes, that "wine sipping lawyer" is JUST AS IMPORTANT as the grunt spitting dirt watching the horizon. The first alone is not viable, the second alone is pointless.

gallo caldo
I don't think he was saying anything about that. Indeed, I'd suggest you lay off the sexually provocative dialogue while we're discussing something as weighty as abortion politics. Sicko.

You don't think who was saying anything about what?
And I'm sorry, but "sexually provocative dialogue?" "Weighty...discussion?"
This is Fark.com, guy. Check out the number of dead baby jokes in this thread...

Your argument amounts to saying "don't bother yourself about the ethics of abortion because many of those who aren't aborted live sub-ideal lives, ergo adding more children to the mix would act as a net negative for the quality of life of children overall" (I guess). Or maybe you meant something more coherent. If so, please let me know.

On the other hand, if I've got the essentials right, I find that unpersuasive. Particularly since we know it's not the poorest women who are having abortions. Quite the opposite, actually. Child poverty as a percentage would likely go down significantly if housewives and ivy leaguers would just have the babies they conceive and set about raising them to adulthood.

I'm not arguing that since we have unwanted children abortion should be legal. I believe abortion should be legal regardless.

I would merely respect the sincerity of "pro-lifers" if they actually cared about the fetuses they're so dead-set on protecting once they've, you know, shot out of their mothers' cooters.

This kind of reminds me of a church in St. Louis I saw years ago (forgot the denomination) that had "Santa didn't die for your sins" on the sign out front, in December. That's class!

I'm for retroactive abortion choice. Up until the 225 month, it should be the choice of the mother to end the fetuses life.

/Pro-Choice, but personally think abortion abhorent.

The hardcore Anti-Choice people are no better than some of the more hardcore PETA jerks. They've been seen near schools, handing out pamphlets featuring pictures of aborted fetuses to children. I'm not sure if PETA learned from them, or they learned from PETA.

I am for the death penalty. If someone messes with my child or wife or family I would be happy to impose the penalty upon that person. I am a happy liberal Who owns a '45 which was my fathers sidearm in ' Nam for 2 years. But the woman has the CHOICE.

TravelerRunnerEngineer

until you're willing to take care of any lives you save from the abortion doctor, I suggest you stay out of the issue.

You can't mean that, surely...? I should shut up because I don't feed, clothe, and house some minimum number of children?

Tell you what...find someone who's intent on aborting a pregnancy based upon finances, and who's willing to have the child otherwise, and I'll foot the bill. No joking.

/Limit one per customer
//No shirt, no shoes, no service
///Resources are not unlimited

J3

I think the problem is they're showing actual gory pictures as opposed to fake gore or pictures thereof. It's not really that disturbing when you see someone murdered in a movie or on TV, but when you see video of someone being killed....it's pretty traumatic.

Plus the fact that it's a parade for kids and this guy shouldn't be bringing his politics into the mix.

TravelRunnerEngineer
If there were a shortage of adoptable babies, then I'd be with you all the way.

Have you tried adopting a baby lately? The wife and I are starting the endless mountain of paperwork and procedure now. Seems a lot of teenagers these days think it's "cool" to have a baby. The time frame is usually longer than full term pregnancy.
To the pro-lifers out there: If you want to slow down abortions, push the alternatives instead of the shock tactics.

What good is the Patriot Act if it doesn't do anything to protect us from Terrorists?

I'm not sure where I stand on the whole abortion issue, but I always thought it was stupid how the pro-abortionists say they support "women being in control of their bodies". A fetus is not her body. Sure it's attached to her but you wouldn't call a leach or a tick part of your body.

/Used to be a member, then I found my home with the Federalists


ah, good republican lawyer. obviously you would be pretty objective.

so, you can most likely bring up a case where the ACLU didn't uphold the constitution ? you know, how they are always "jackbooted, intolerant wing of the socialist left on anything of broad social import. They're anti-speech, PC-up-the-butt morans." to use your rational legal non-emotional definition.

Good comparison peachykeen.

/sarcasm

I think that they should just also have a "The Wonders of Religion" float. It could feature little boys being sodomized by priests, 'witches' being burned in public squares, Arabs being slaughtered for their beliefs, Native Americans being killed for their land, charlatans taking advantage of the elderly, etc. etc. etc.

Rev. Asshat is more like it.

BURN THE PRIEST!

2005-07-28 05:45:30 PM gallo caldo

That's true. They love to tell you how they defended Rush Limbaugh and a small baptist church, but they are noticably silent on the second amendment. So they're all for your constitutional rights, the ones that matter to the extreme left of center.



The ACLU are a bunch of asshats. They take high-profile, outrageous cases to give themselves bona fides as defenders of individual liberty, but then align themselves with the jackbooted, intolerant wing of the socialist left on anything of broad social import. They're anti-speech, PC-up-the-butt morans.

/Used to be a member, then I found my home with the Federalists

gallo caldo

You'll raise the child until they're 18? Give them a stable home life with positive role models all around?

Come on down to New Orleans, we've quite a few people looking for someone to raise some unwanted babies.