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(Boortz)   Boortz exposes Democrat letters-to-editor as blatant copy/paste jobs from website-generated mass email   (boortz.com) divider line 319
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DeadRadioStar
2005-07-27 10:49:51 AM
You aren't trying to suggest that only one political party engages in this intellectually bankrupt practice, are you? Every administration I've ever worked in 2 Repub 1 Dem has issued points for their hacks to parrot on tv and radio.

I suggest putting your fingers in your ears and humming.
 
StrikitRich [TotalFark]
2005-07-27 10:50:27 AM
He's been exposing the Naples News for doing this for weeks.
 
mezmer
2005-07-27 10:50:39 AM
NEWSFLASH: This trick is used on both liberal and conservative sites, often giving the viewer a choice of several "canned" letters/emails from which to choose.
 
the_pgoat [TotalFark]
2005-07-27 10:58:18 AM
Yeah. People are freaking lazy. I can see signing a canned letter and sending to your Rep. or Sen, because it's not getting printed, it's just recording your view.

But a letter to the editor isn't the place for it. Even if you have personalized the letter somewhat. A letter to the editor, intended for publication, should be original.
 
SherKhan
2005-07-27 11:02:17 AM
Copy n' pasting letters to editors = Lame.
 
Number12withEggroll
2005-07-27 11:10:59 AM
2nd item in Reading Assignments... would this qualify for ironic?

Members of the black community in Miami are outraged at a news release advertising a "Ghetto Style Talent Show" that featured a water melon eating contest. Will they be similarly outraged if their kids don't speaking proper English, get good grades and stay out of trouble? Probably not.
 
flaEsq [TotalFark]
2005-07-27 11:16:18 AM
Boortz is quite a smart little ragamuffin. Can't hardly get up early enough in the morning to get anything past him.
 
suebhoney
2005-07-27 11:26:11 AM
If the RNC can do it, why can't the DNC?
 
CineKal
2005-07-27 11:31:39 AM
Someone was actually listening to Boortz? So YOU'RE the one!
 
PottyMcNugg
2005-07-27 11:37:42 AM
Oh, I get it. DNC. If it was the RNC, would we be allowed to complain?
 
enkafan
2005-07-27 11:43:14 AM
i believe the RNC calls this "instant grassrooting." they've been exposed doing this probably 5 or 6 times in the past few years.

but in a couple of cases, it wasn't providing people with canned e-mails, they were just making people up and sending them to different media outlets.
 
ralanprod [TotalFark]
2005-07-27 11:44:48 AM
The DNC, the RNC, and the millitary.

Hey! We have a cut and paste trifecta.
 
etymxris
2005-07-27 11:50:13 AM
Originality is overrated. These people are not trying to prove their literary worth, they are trying to register their outrage. As long as there is a real person sending it, I don't see the problem.
 
BooBoo23 [TotalFark]
2005-07-27 11:56:15 AM
 
Dancin_In_Anson [TotalFark]
2005-07-27 12:40:16 PM
DeadRadioStar:

You aren't trying to suggest that only one political party engages in this intellectually bankrupt practice, are you?

mezmer: NEWSFLASH: This trick is used on both liberal and conservative sites

suebhoney: f the RNC can do it, why can't the DNC

PottyMcNugg: Oh, I get it. DNC. If it was the RNC, would we be allowed to complain?

enkafan:

i believe the RNC calls this "instant grassrooting." they've been exposed doing this probably 5 or 6 times in the past few years.

I thought that we learned just yesterday that the "But he (they) do (did) it too is an intellectually bankrupt argument.

I guess I stand corrected.
 
pshaw
2005-07-27 12:41:25 PM
I'm glad we had Columbo here on the case. I was going to spend many of sleepless nights trying to find the original author of said letter.

FRANK J. RANELLI: (If that's your REAL NAME,) you have been charged with "failure to think for oneself". I sentence you to a lifetime of watching reality television and eating microwave dinners.

Dear God! How do we stop these people from falling through the cracks?

*grasps chest in pain
 
untrustworthy
2005-07-27 01:13:56 PM
Dancin_In_Anson: I thought that we learned just yesterday that the "But he (they) do (did) it too is an intellectually bankrupt argument.

That's what I thought. We can't bring up Clinton pardoning someone for outting a CIA agent, but the Dems can bring up Repubs using form letters to defend their position?

/Does. Not. Compute.
 
enave
2005-07-27 01:54:50 PM
Issue: Liberals did something wrong or stupid
Conservative Response: See, this shows how they really are.
Liberal Response: So? Conservatives do this too!

Issue: Conservatives did something wrong or stupid
Liberal Response: See, this shows how they really are.
Conservative Response: So? Liberals do this too!

Result: Nothing ever changes.
 
BooBoo23 [TotalFark]
2005-07-27 01:55:55 PM
enave: Result: Nothing ever changes.

Further result: Golf clap from BooBoo for correctitude.
 
Cosmic_Music
2005-07-27 02:09:11 PM
I see nothing whatever wrong with this, and have done it personally on literally hundreds of occasions. It's standard practice for any group with an issue they want to promote. It's not wrong when the right do it either.

Can you hurry up send Karl Rove to jail now?
 
untrustworthy
2005-07-27 02:11:47 PM
Cosmic_Music: Can you hurry up send Karl Rove to jail now?

Sure, but as long as we're playing the "they did it so its ok when we do it" then Bush should just pardon him.

/BTW, he'd have to be convicted of a crime in order to go to jail. It isn't looking like an actual crime was committed. Hypocrasy and unethical behavior? Possibly. A crime? Doubtful.
 
Cosmic_Music
2005-07-27 02:14:28 PM
It isn't looking like an actual crime was committed. Hypocrasy and unethical behavior? Possibly. A crime? Doubtful.

dagnabbit...

... does he have to be guilty of something? Can't you just do it for, you know, the yuks?
 
BigTuna [TotalFark]
2005-07-27 02:14:50 PM
Politicians of all stripes do this ALL. THE. TIME. Hell, even the Army does it. This kind of "investigative" reporting attempts to pin the blame on only one side and relies heavily on readers' ignorance of basic politics and persuasion.

Form letters are the 21st century incarnation of active citizen participation in government. I thought it was stupid to make hay of the issue when Republicans were doing it, and it's no less stupid now.
 
BigTuna [TotalFark]
2005-07-27 02:19:19 PM
untrustworthy: We can't bring up Clinton pardoning someone for outting a CIA agent..

Who are you talking about?
 
untrustworthy
2005-07-27 02:28:22 PM
BigTuna: Who are you talking about?

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/26/101413.shtml

/no clicky 'cause I'm lazy.
 
pshaw
2005-07-27 02:28:36 PM
untrustworthy: We can't bring up Clinton pardoning someone for outting a CIA agent...

Ditto the question asked by BigTuna.
 
TheGoblinKing
2005-07-27 02:32:31 PM
That's awesome...but I'm still not surprised.
 
BigTuna [TotalFark]
2005-07-27 02:34:48 PM
untrustworthy:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/26/101413.shtml

That's what I suspected.

Leaking classified docs of another country's military hardware != outing a CIA agent.
 
Cosmic_Music
2005-07-27 02:35:37 PM
You appear to have misread that story, untrustworthy...
 
untrustworthy
2005-07-27 02:36:23 PM
Oh, sorry BigTuna, pshaw, it wasn't for outting a CIA agent, it was for providing classified satellite photos of a Soviet aircraft carrier to a British publication. But national security is national security, right?
 
st_gulik
2005-07-27 02:36:39 PM
untrustworthy:

/BTW, he'd have to be convicted of a crime in order to go to jail. It isn't looking like an actual crime was committed. Hypocrasy and unethical behavior? Possibly. A crime? Doubtful.


Hypocracy and unethical behavior? Is that what we're calling lying under oath these days?
 
untrustworthy
2005-07-27 02:37:35 PM
Damn, you bastards caught my mistake before I could point it out myself. Oh well. Hopefully you still get the point.
 
untrustworthy
2005-07-27 02:39:12 PM
st_gulik: Hypocracy and unethical behavior? Is that what we're calling lying under oath these days?

I don't remember Rove saying anything about the subject while being under oath. From what I understood it was a phone conversation, not a grand jury investigation.
 
BigTuna [TotalFark]
2005-07-27 02:40:53 PM
untrustworthy: But national security is national security, right?

Yes it is, and that guy served his 2 years in prison long before he was pardoned.
 
untrustworthy
2005-07-27 02:47:42 PM
BigTuna: Yes it is, and that guy served his 2 years in prison long before he was pardoned.

True, but he was convicted of committing a crime. From what I understand, it doesn't look like Rove actually committed a crime. I'm not saying I agree with that, since not enough information has been sifted through yet, but it still looks like he will be cleared of any criminal charges.
 
DisneyOnIce
2005-07-27 02:56:31 PM
Not even 40 posts and this is turning into a Clinton Admin biatch-fest. FARK rules!!
 
DisneyOnIce
2005-07-27 03:10:05 PM
untrustworthy

"From what I understand, it doesn't look like Rove actually committed a crime." Not if you want to parse things along the lines of "depends on what your definition of is is". The fact is Karl Rove did something wrong, and should accept the consequences. Rove and his supporters lame "no crime was actually commited" weaseling-out excuse crap is no better than anything Clinton ever tried to pull.

Shove the RNC's advertising as "the party of personal responsibility" up your ass.
 
Lenny_da_Hog [TotalFark]
2005-07-27 04:01:34 PM
Wow, that was some *really* sly investigative work, there...

...considering that nearly EVERY advocacy group of any kind -- cancer survivors, friends of animals, energy PACs, political parties -- ALL use prepared editorial letters.

It's not a new technique, goes back to the days of mimeographs laying around union or business offices. It's kinda why most editorial pages have adopted a written policy statement against using non-original submissions.
 
untrustworthy
2005-07-27 04:30:00 PM
DisneyOnIce: Shove the RNC's advertising as "the party of personal responsibility" up your ass.

Being as this debate started about the validity of certain types of arguments, I think it is appropriate that you end it with one of the biggest errors. Vulgar insults typically point to one who has poor perspective on a subject. That would be you.
 
Lenny_da_Hog [TotalFark]
2005-07-27 04:33:28 PM
Vulgar insults typically point to one who has poor perspective on a subject.

Yes. The more likable party is always the one with the truth. And if both are likable, it comes down to who's the prettiest.
 
untrustworthy
2005-07-27 04:45:50 PM
Lenny_da_Hog: Yes. The more likable party is always the one with the truth. And if both are likable, it comes down to who's the prettiest.

No wonder I'm wrong so often. Stupid genetics.
 
Yo_MTV_Raps!
2005-07-27 05:22:04 PM
 
EriccirE
2005-07-27 05:23:01 PM
 
grotto_man
2005-07-27 05:23:50 PM
Why was this greenlit? Both parties, and many advocacy groups irregardless of the validity of their causes does this?
 
NCg8r
2005-07-27 05:24:02 PM
Ha Ha! Your side is stupider than the other side, which is equally as stupid! But Clinton got a blowjob and Bush lied about WMD!!!!uno!

I am so smart... S-M-R-T...
 
Phil Herup
2005-07-27 05:24:03 PM
Ha ha

Democrats are sutpid.

/and lazy
 
LostprophetR63
2005-07-27 05:24:37 PM
- The war has tripled global terrorism, not reduced it

Could someone explain to me how these statistics are kept? Or is it fuzzy math?
 
Oldiron_79
2005-07-27 05:25:13 PM
I find Boortz(libertarian pundit) way more thought provoking than Rush or Hannity(republican pundits)
 
2wolves [TotalFark]
2005-07-27 05:25:37 PM
It's called astroturf. Both the D's & the R's do it. Mr. Boortzie needs to get his self righteous buttocks from covering his head.
 
The Boy 26358
2005-07-27 05:26:09 PM
Does the fact that it's copy/paste make the points any less relevant?
 
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