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2005-07-21 06:58:35 AM  
At 66-4 I think it's a toss that England don't mind having lost
 
2005-07-21 07:23:34 AM  
This is gonna be friggin HUGE!
 
2005-07-21 07:24:46 AM  
...Ashes, ashes, all fall down.
 
2005-07-21 07:25:20 AM  
87-5 before lunch. It's just silly.
 
2005-07-21 07:25:21 AM  
Is this about that Harry Potter guy?
 
2005-07-21 07:26:01 AM  
Funny, all I hear is crickets.
 
2005-07-21 07:26:20 AM  
Andrew Flintoff took a wicket with his fourth ball in Ashes cricket as Justin Langer was caught at square-leg for 40.


What language is this?
--haxtor,
 
2005-07-21 07:26:29 AM  
Jargon like Flintoff keeps Clarke guessing with a snappy short ball before rapping him on the pads and having an lbw appeal turned down makes it sound like cricket was deeply infiltrated by '50s beatniks several decades ago.
 
2005-07-21 07:26:59 AM  
It's the Quidditch World Cup series!
 
2005-07-21 07:27:25 AM  
I want the one minute of my life back that was wasted when I clicked and read the article.
 
2005-07-21 07:28:24 AM  
As I only became concious after the West Indies-dominated '80s, the sight of Australia being beat down by pace bowlers both frightens and surprises me.

/bloody poms
 
2005-07-21 07:30:12 AM  
Ouch, that's a bad start for us...

Makes me glad I'm back in Oz and not in the UK anymore... Still, tis only the first day.
 
2005-07-21 07:31:29 AM  
Asphalt is softer in the double summer time.
 
2005-07-21 07:32:31 AM  
97-5 at lunch. I wish I had a tv card at work.
It'll arrive tomorrow :D
 
2005-07-21 07:33:26 AM  
Huh?


/American
 
2005-07-21 07:33:44 AM  
Was I the only one who thought there was a ridiculous excess of one-dayers this season? Gawd, just give us the real thing, you know, those games where everyone wears white?
 
2005-07-21 07:33:52 AM  
So, when do Ford and Arthur show up?
 
2005-07-21 07:33:53 AM  
Yes yes yes, cricket uses jargon (like every other sport) and yes, the US don't play it, so therefor most people who use this site won't know how to play it...but why even bother to come in here and post about your ignorance?

It's not like cricket followers feel the need to go into any of the baseball threads and make comments about the "pitcher" and "foul balls" and other weird jargon in that sport.
 
2005-07-21 07:34:59 AM  
Harmison hit all three top Aussie batsmen with short-pitched balls, cutting open Ricky Ponting's cheek.

So is that good or bad? Is "cutting open Ricky Ponting's cheek" some kind of cricket-speak street language or what?
 
2005-07-21 07:35:03 AM  
Krikkit! Krikkit! Krikkit!

The reason why other intelligent space-faring races refuse to have anything to do with Earth.

/HHGTTG fan.
 
2005-07-21 07:35:32 AM  
Someone throw another shrimp on the barbie for me...
 
2005-07-21 07:35:47 AM  
Some of us are vain about our ignorance (POTUS specifically not implied)


.
 
2005-07-21 07:36:01 AM  
Can we have a rounders thread for the Americans?
 
2005-07-21 07:37:03 AM  
howsabout a conkers thread?
 
2005-07-21 07:37:08 AM  
 
2005-07-21 07:37:12 AM  
wop
 
2005-07-21 07:37:14 AM  
for the benefit of the americans:
Imagine baseball, but where you run back and forth instead of round and round. Fewer innings, more outs. Huge quantities of incomprehensible language. Each match takes five days and they break for tea halfway through the afternoon. All very civilised. No spitting. Everyone wears white to try and confuse the commentators, who actually spend more time talking about food than they do talking about the game in front of them. Presumably because they're too confused by the white-ness.

Add in the fact that England vs. Australia tends to get emotions running quite high, despite the fact that Australia have won every time for the last 16 years or thereabouts...
 
2005-07-21 07:38:59 AM  
97 for 5 at lunch

That *does* hurt. Come on boys, get it together.
 
2005-07-21 07:39:53 AM  
snafubar
Thanks, but we prefer our obscure sports to remain totally incomprehensible.

Just let me know when Slartbartifast shows up, please.

I have a couch for him.
 
2005-07-21 07:40:19 AM  
Hack Patooey: So, when do Ford and Arthur show up?

Bag of Wank: wop

LMAO.
 
2005-07-21 07:41:08 AM  


I'd short-ball it!
 
2005-07-21 07:41:10 AM  
barjockey

So is that good or bad? Is "cutting open Ricky Ponting's cheek" some kind of cricket-speak street language or what?


It means what it says: he took a fast flying cricket ball to the face. Good for Harmison, not so good for Ponting.
 
2005-07-21 07:41:40 AM  

It's not like cricket followers feel the need to go into any of the baseball threads and make comments about the "pitcher" and "foul balls" and other weird jargon in that sport.


Absolutely.


The reason why other intelligent space-faring races refuse to have anything to do with Earth.


Cricket is the thinking-man's sport. ADD-ridden Americans can't handle a game that lasts longer than a couple of hours. I expect extra-terrestrial life would appreciate the enormous strategy and endurance exhibited in Test Cricket, as well as the good sportsmanship.

/well, cricket is becoming less of a gentleman's game, unfortunately -see Shane Warne
//but then again, some batsmen still walk now and again
 
2005-07-21 07:42:03 AM  
ghost_who_walks
It's not like cricket followers feel the need to go into any of the baseball threads and make comments about the "pitcher" and "foul balls" and other weird jargon in that sport.

Please do. I'm an American, but I don't follow American sports, either, so I never have anything fannish to contribute. I came in here because I was going to point out how, if you don't know cricket, not only might you not care about the game but, more importantly, "Ashes first test first day discussion thread" doesn't even make sense as English speech (maybe punctuation would help?), so it just struck me as funny. It would be as if a headline said "Spoon under meter under week discussion thread."

One's head asplode.

Like many geeks in here, my only guess as to what the headline meant came from Douglas Adams. But of trivia: the Krikkitmen from Lif, the Universe & Everything were originally in a Doctor Who script that never got made. DNA was a recycler. (Go pick up "Salmon of Doubt" if you're a DNA fan and don't have it already.)
 
2005-07-21 07:42:13 AM  
USA! USA! USA!
 
2005-07-21 07:43:28 AM  
I have this very annoying trait that anything I encounter outside of my heavily intellectually stunted world I feel the need to comment upon.

Along the lines of "WTF?" or "Who?" or "Is this English?" or compare it to some useless and boring subject currently in the headlines in a vain attempt at humour.

Again.

And again.

And again.

Rant over.

Good luck England
 
2005-07-21 07:44:49 AM  
Oh, and hungover.
 
2005-07-21 07:44:57 AM  
Rann Xerox
I want the one minute of my life back that was wasted when I clicked and read the article.

I can get you back that minute for $20. Email me for details.
 
2005-07-21 07:45:28 AM  
I was in Clissold Park over the weekend and watched little kids practicing cricket. I'd never seen it before so I found it quite interesting.

I always wondered where cricket players came from.
 
2005-07-21 07:48:18 AM  
Can any UK/Aussie/Indian farkers give us Cricket ignorant Americans who wish to learn about the sport an explanation/link explaining the sport?

It would be appreciated. Thank You.
 
2005-07-21 07:48:42 AM  

Someone throw another shrimp on the barbie for me...


Does anyone know why this is an Australian stereotype? I've never heard a fellow Aussie say shrimp. I always thought it was an Americanism. Prawns, anybody?
 
2005-07-21 07:50:36 AM  
Barton Fink:

2005-07-21 07:45:28 AM Barton Fink


I always wondered where cricket players came from.


Mostly from old colonial countries, apart from the States, Hong Kong and a few other smarter places.

Actually, any cricket fans know of a team that wasn't invaded by the Brits previously who play cricket?
 
2005-07-21 07:51:07 AM  
Introduction to Cricket

I haven't read it, but from the first page it looks okay. Welcome to the sport God supports.
 
2005-07-21 07:58:24 AM  
GungFu

Holland play cricket. Did us brits ever invade there??? (excluding WW2 liberating, that is...)
 
2005-07-21 07:59:56 AM  
Several links from a very quick google:

http://members.tripod.com/~sccwa/crick.html
http://www.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ABOUT_CRICKET/EXPLANATION/CRICKET_EXP LAINED_AMERICAN.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket

They're not pops, but you can deal with that I'm sure.

But for the basics:
There are several forms of cricket: Limited overs (also known as One Day, Day-Night, or the new Twenty20 matches) and Test Matches. Test matches run for several days, the internationals versions for up to five days. The Ashes Test series is specifically the series of international tests between Australia and England, and at times can be considered the empitomy of world class cricket. Whether or not that is the case, it is certainly an emotionally loaded series, and carries a lot of national pride from both sides. When one of the five day matches takes place at the Lord's Cricket ground in London (considered the semi-religious Home of Cricket), the emotion builds even higher.

So this is fairly important to those in Australia and England.
 
2005-07-21 08:01:21 AM  
97 - 5 at lunch.

Eat THAT, Convicts!
 
2005-07-21 08:01:22 AM  
Simple. The winner of a cricket match gets to burn the fence (that's the 3 flexible wooden posts with 2 little wooden "bails" balanced on top -- think of that as a mechanical "strike zone" determiner) to ashes, put them in a trophy, and mock the loser for years afterward at any pub.

That's pretty much all you need to know.
 
2005-07-21 08:01:33 AM  
GungFu

Mostly from old colonial countries, apart from the States, Hong Kong and a few other smarter places.

Actually, any cricket fans know of a team that wasn't invaded by the Brits previously who play cricket?


I actually meant I'd never seen little kids playing cricket.

/japan is getting into cricket now
 
2005-07-21 08:02:12 AM  
There's always the humourous explanation of cricket...

"You have two sides, one out in the field and one in.
Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when
he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's
out. When they are all out, the side that's out comes in
and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get
those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in
and not out. When a man goes out to go in, the men who
are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes
in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two
men called umpires who stay all out the time and they
decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides
have been in and all the men have been given out, and
both sides have been out twice after all the men have
been in, including those who are not out, that is the
end of the game!"

See, it's easy!
 
2005-07-21 08:03:44 AM  
Anyone following the match - try the ball by ball commentary on http://uk.cricinfo.com (pops)

/Better than the Beeb
//Want another session like this morning (please)
 
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