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(NY Daily News)   Nine out of 10 New Yorkers now stock emergency supplies in their homes in case of a terror attack or other disaster   ( divider line
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2005-07-19 11:01:57 AM  
Yeah, like 5 extra 8balls and a brick of hash.
2005-07-19 11:02:24 AM  
Yes. Be afraid. Nevermind that the odds of dying in a car accident are fourteen times higher. They are out to get you. Stupid farkers..
2005-07-19 11:02:34 AM  
Essential items Checklist:

Flashlight and batteries
Candles and matches
Radio and Batteries
First-aid kit
I.D. papers
Clothing and shoes
Blankets or sleeping bags
Toilet paper
Bottled water (3 litres per person per day)
2005-07-19 11:03:19 AM  
Another good piece of advice is to keep you gas tank topped off.

During the blackout of 2003 I had two cars, both with gas, running the whole time. Only towards the end of the second day did I have to refuel one of them.

I actually was giving out gas to my neighbor (it took a while to figure out that siphoning trick), and loaned my CRV to my dad-in-law.

2005-07-19 11:03:20 AM  
StrikitRich: and the last thing we need are more New Yorkers and Floridians.

New Yorkers morph into Floridians somewhere in later mid life stages. Little is known about this biological oddity, but I-95 has been linked on more than a few occations.
2005-07-19 11:04:40 AM  
Ha! Ha! Americans are pussies!!!
2005-07-19 11:05:04 AM  
And now it's time for another Good Idea/ Bad Idea...

*Skullhead Boneyhands walks out, pushing a grocery cart full of items*

Good Idea:

Preparing for an emergency by stocking supplies.

Bad Idea:

*Skullhead Boneyhands is hauled off to Gitmo as Donald Rumsfeld spanks his ass with a whip while riding a bridled Bill O'Reilly*

Preparing for an emergency by suspending civil rights and electing overly-religious nannies to political office.
2005-07-19 11:06:05 AM  
Nothing wrong with having a stash of emergency supplies and rashions. Likewise, it's a good idea to keep your important documents in a single place if you don't have a safety deposit box. Around here, it's tornado season. Since you might only get 5 minutes' warning, having all your important stuff in one place makes a lot of sense.

This really doesn't deserve a 'sad' tag. It's good planning.
2005-07-19 11:07:01 AM  
Were is Rudy gonna go now thar they blew up his bunker?

Rudys bunker

A complex that Giuliani had ordered built for this function was located on the 23rd floor of a building in the World Trade Center complex that was destroyed in the attacks on the twin towers. Why the building went down has yet to be fully explained, but some have pointed to the Giuliani administrations decision to run fuel lines up the side of the structure, in violation of safety ordinances.
2005-07-19 11:07:03 AM  
I just intend to eat my neighbours.

/yummy protein.
2005-07-19 11:08:07 AM  
Son of Dad

Monkey....nice one.
2005-07-19 11:08:47 AM  
2005-07-19 11:08:51 AM  
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2005-07-19 11:09:01 AM  
The situation that calls for it is sad, being prepared is smart. For things from blackouts and water or gas service interruptions, to quakes, fires, biowarfare attacks or scares, if you survive the initial episode, chances are you will have to "shelter in place" and ride it out, since nobody official will likely be able to get to you with additional help, or restore the power, clean water, etc. for 3-7 days, maybe more. Plus, you might have to host a couple out-of-towners or neighbors or visitors that got caught in the middle of the event and can't get home, due to things like shut-down air traffic.

Quartermaster and other survivalist/miltary fetishist suppliers have some fair deals on cases of MRE's,waterless sanitation kits, storable water, med kits, super-long-run batteries, hand-crank radios & flashlights, blankets, heaters, extra undies, cold weather gear, etc. you can buy, store, and ignore for years at a time. When the expendables get close to expiration date, donate them to some homeless or something, or have a "we made it this far" party camp-out picnic with them in the living room. Then buy new stuff to replace it.

Now is also a good time to make alternate communications plans in case phones and internet break down. A CB or ham radio with batteries would be good. Have a couple designated places figured out where your friends and family and neighbors can rally together or at least leave word what's happened to everyone, where they are going, etc. Have a neigborhood rally point, a citywide rally point (or two), and some place out of town everybody knows to try to get to, should the worst happen. Update the phone and address books, print out e-mail addresses and keep copies in a few places, one with the MRE's. If the shiate ever hits the fan, you will be glad you don't have to figure this stuff out on the fly.

Also don't forget to get a stockpile of your irreplaceable/vital prescription meds, enough to tide you over an extra month. Many of these unfortunately have short shelf life, especially without refrigeration. Some pharmacies may let you bring the unused "stale" ones back for a credit. Ask your doctor.

None of this by itself is hysterical, paranoid, or apocalyptic, it's just common sense behavior to maintain some self-sufficiency in a world where we depend on a lot of externally supplied services provided by utilities and government and business, all of which can and will be again, interrupted from time to time, either by by mother nature or something worse.

/"we've got provisions, and lots of beer, the key word is survival on the new frontier..."
2005-07-19 11:13:44 AM  
If anything big happens, I'm headed to Natick.
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2005-07-19 11:14:58 AM  
didnt RTFT, but how many people had 'emergency supplies' for 'other disasters' before terrorism was an issue? seriously, how many people dont have all their papers together in one place, and know where the torch is, and stuff like that? thats all this article is saying, nothing but hyped up banter like usual..
2005-07-19 11:17:56 AM  
Living in "hurricane country" I would say that 10 out of 10 of my neighbors, coworkers and friends have emergency supplies.
We aint cowering in fear of terrorists, just watching the horizon for the next named storm. We just have a head-start on terror alerts.
2005-07-19 11:20:15 AM  
This is probably more due to the blackout last year than the threat of terrorism. I made sure to get a flashlight after the blackout and would thus count as someone who has stocked up for an emergency according to this Daily News survey.
2005-07-19 11:23:08 AM  
Headline is not SAD, it's common sense.
2005-07-19 11:23:09 AM  
What? Not sad- GOOD.

I'll note though- New Yorkers also stock "Emergency Supplies" whenever its going to snow... 2".
2005-07-19 11:27:02 AM  
Here in SF we stock earthquake kits, with tools, food, fuel, grass, and lots of booze in plastic bottles.

In '89 asshats ran the supermarkets AND the liqour stores AND bought up all the dope in town in about an hour after the main quake. After that, we were on our own.

/be prepared.
2005-07-19 11:27:34 AM  
I'm guessing the folks who did the survey asked whether people were prepared for an "emergency".

The paper decided to make emergency=terrorism.
2005-07-19 11:30:30 AM  
Maybe it would be more productive to get out and lobby the government to find alternative solutions to the 'terrorist threat' - something other than shredding the Constitution, invading various countries and killing innocent civilians.
2005-07-19 11:32:58 AM  
Tin Foil Milliner:

Essential items Checklist:
Clothing and shoes
... far I have the toilet paper.

So, you're naked?

2005-07-19 11:38:39 AM  

Then again, if the terrorists attack Indian Point, i'm dead anyway.

Umm no...
Your treading a fine line, a line between being a liberal enviro im going to protest because I feel unaccomplished in life while taking some shrooms idiot, and a I just say stupid stuff person.
2005-07-19 11:39:18 AM  
I have an emergancy stock pile of condoms. So far, I haven't had to break into the stash...

/no, I do not live in my parent's basement
2005-07-19 11:43:46 AM  
I had a battery operated radio during the blackout, and it was so annoying I stopped listening to it. "The lights are still off, and we don't know when they'll be on again, or even what caused it. Stay tuned as we repeat this information over and over again."
2005-07-19 11:45:42 AM  

This is one thing the Mormons have always gotten right.

Keep enough food, water, and emergency supplies to be able to provide for yourself and your family

so, food and water for 35?
2005-07-19 11:52:49 AM  
Really, I call BS. I dont know anyone who gives a shiat and I've lived here since the early 90s.

Good job the media is doing trying to scare everyone though, the farkers.
2005-07-19 11:53:32 AM  
Yep. 81% of New Yorkers voted for Kerry, and since that didn't work out so well, they'd better keep those emergency preparedness bags handy.

/they hates teh Dubya who failed to protect their city, then used it as a political tool for four years while denying spending on protecting the city adequately from another attack
2005-07-19 11:57:02 AM  
I only person I know who doesn't have an emergency kit is my idiot neighbor who lives three houses down.

The same idiot who asked me why I keep bottled water in the basement when there's a store less than a mile away. Guess what, Sherlock, we all do that here. No, not because of terrorist attacks or some other scare tactics shiat but because of natural disaster that have a habit of occuring here rather frequently.

Having duct tape, dozens of emergency flares and 1,000 rounds of 30.06 is nice and all but it's probably not so smart to stock up on duct tape and ammo instead of water if you live in an area with 90+ degree weather.

Said idiot does unfortunately have a (batshiat crazy) wife and kids so we actually make sure that we have enough water and food to accomodate them if the SHTF.

/wouldn't want to keep all my emergency supplies in a tiny NYC appartment though
//how the hell do you do that anyway? keep it under the bed/in a closet?
2005-07-19 11:58:37 AM  
Doesn't matter. None of those items would survive a nuclear detonation anyway, and that's probably what they're working on next.
2005-07-19 12:02:05 PM  
This can't be true! That would mean that they haven't forgotten about 9-11! They've obviously forgotten about 9-11, because they voted Democrat and oppose the war in Iraq. Sean Hannity told me so.
2005-07-19 12:11:26 PM  
I hope you NYC Farkers are including some birth control in that emergency stash. We all know what happened 9 months after the Blackout, and here in Florida after last year's hurricanes.....

Urban legend. Not true.

and the last thing we need are more New Yorkers and Floridians.

2005-07-19 12:14:11 PM  
Well, I can't say this is a bad idea.

We grew up being taught to not only keep at least a weeks worth of canned goods on hand but to keep storm supplies ready, like candles, kerosene lamps, batteries and such. I live in Florida and for most of us who have been here over 20 years, that becomes second nature.

My sister, however, never developed this habit and as soon as she married and got out on her own, she basically started getting goods every couple of days or so as needed.

We've had it pretty good in the US for a long time, but that was back before assorted nations happily bought up our technology and displayed the perfect reason for the 'no trading' part of the prime directive in the old Star Trek movies. The global community has grown a lot since WW2 and, naturally, with explosive growth comes problems as assorted leaders struggle for power.

Florida is pretty well overbuilt and over developed these days. When you do that, you strain the resources and change the lay of the land, so storms that did minor damage years ago can now, due to population density, create a major disaster. Natural windbreaks and land drainage are gone. More and more people pile into homes built right on the edge of the ocean.

So, you combine those two factors and you'd better be prepared.

We don't learn from history very well. Trade in weapons in ancient times usually resulted in the spread of war. (The Pope back then even tried to ban the crossbow because nations using it became basically like bringing a machine gun to a muzzle loader fight.) If you trade advanced technology to under advanced nations, you can pretty well figure that some folks will use it to gain power and then attack you.

Look at Germany in WW2. One man persuaded an entire nation to pretty well agree to fascism and to attempt the genocide of an entire religious group.

So, these days, with technology running wild, it's best to be on guard. I mean, as soon as national security develops things to detect weapons with, someone comes up with undetectable weapons and happily sells them on the open market. (The hardened, sharp plastic knives that were available disguised as belt buckles a few years ago to get you through metal detectors. Radar guns to stop speeders and the rapid development and spread of radar detectors. Look how fast people corrupted the Internet with spyware and viruses. With each new defense thrown up for computer technology, there's 1000 computer nuts determined to find ways around it.)

The Chinese developed gunpowder for entertainment in the way of fireworks. The European nations turned it into weapons. Between the 70s and the 2000s, the Internet and TV happily showed folks how to make weapons from household objects and then informed everyone how not only to commit crimes but how the cops track down criminals, which taught criminals what not to do.

Over population created nuts, who, for any of about a million reasons, will deliberately disrupt society, especially now with the knowledge on how to easily make weapons and how to avoid being caught.

Plus a whole lot of our technology depends on electricity and you just know that someone is liable to target power stations for whatever reason.

So, it's best to be prepared.
2005-07-19 12:15:22 PM  
What's wrong with being a little prepared?

No matter what your political affiliation--maybe having a flashlight, some batteries, a little food and some bottled water in the city that embodies what every fundamentalist Islamic maniac hates isn't such a bad idea?

Give me a break--asshat hippies jump at anything to bleed their hearts a little more. Go back to and blowing up SUV's.
2005-07-19 12:18:15 PM  
I, and everyone I know are also in the other 10%, but it might not be a bad idea to have a small stash of supplies, provided they don't take up too much space (as someone above pointed out, the average NY apartment doesn't really have room for something that might be needed someday.) But I think if I had extra food and water lying around it would eventually be consumed in an emergency of the too-lazy-to-go-to-the-deli nature, which is usually brought on not by terrorism, but that natural disaster known as "rain."
2005-07-19 12:19:10 PM  
Since when is it sad to be prepared for something?
2005-07-19 12:19:12 PM  
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Having duct tape, dozens of emergency flares and 1,000 rounds of 30.06 is nice and all but it's probably not so smart to stock up on duct tape and ammo instead of water if you live in an area with 90+ degree weather.

of course if the shiat hits the fan he can just invade the other homes and steal their water. if people resist he can duct tape them if he doesn't feel like killing. if you barricade yourself inside he could always burn your house down with the flares.

also he is well prepared for the zombies.
2005-07-19 12:19:56 PM  
I've always kept emergency supplies around the house. Now that I live in Atlanta, the supplies are a little less "necessary" than they were when I lived in an earthquake zone...but, it's a good idea to keep those kinds of things around wherever you live.
2005-07-19 12:21:26 PM  
If these were residents of Paris rather than New York we are talking about the air would resound to the cries of "cowards!" "pussies!" "surrender monkeys!"
2005-07-19 12:21:42 PM  
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This preparedness meets their approval.
2005-07-19 12:28:54 PM  
You want emergency supplies to combat terror?

Try some farking earplugs and a blindfold.
2005-07-19 12:29:07 PM  
In a world of small A-bombs, the existence of Manhattan in its current state is an insane anachronism.

Why would you possibly want to put that much high value asset in such a tiny area.

I mean-- small A-bombs exist-- where else WOULD you use one? (assuming, you know, evil) Tokyo, London(?), the Washington mall, Jerusalem, Aswan high dam (SF? Boston?)... there aren't that many targets worth the cost. Set it off in LA and it might not even be noticed-- the city's 50 miles across and it would almost certainly do less damage than the average scheduled LA disaster.
2005-07-19 12:31:43 PM  
My wife went through our emergency kit and was surprised to find a bottle of Jameson and Bowmore Scotch.

"If the hard times come I think I'm going to need a drink or two."

Oh and Skittles after the apocalyse they'll be the new currency.
2005-07-19 12:39:06 PM  

of course if the shiat hits the fan he can just invade the other homes and steal their water. if people resist he can duct tape them if he doesn't feel like killing. if you barricade yourself inside he could always burn your house down with the flares.

Knowing the guy, that might actually be his contingency plan. Probably along the lines of

1.) Burn shiat down, steal water and canned goods, steal BBQ grill, grin like a madman.
2.) ???
3.) World domination.

And I'm pretty sure 2. involves ask the neighbor he just robbed (ie. me) for a can opener.

also he is well prepared for the zombies.

Damn, that is true.

/next-door neighbor is an ex-marine, guy across the street is a cop
//confident he'd be outgunned between the three of us
2005-07-19 12:41:41 PM  
Argh, I was there was an edit button.
2005-07-19 12:42:41 PM  
new yorkers don't even go grocery shopping... i don't believe the 90% statistic... did anyone else think that bowling for columbine was a lot better than 'fahrenheit 911' ?
2005-07-19 12:45:41 PM  
I have some supplies, but only so that I can use this line:

"Guess you broke into the wrong God damn rec room, didn't ya!"
2005-07-19 12:46:19 PM  
Survival kit contents check.

In them you'll find: one forty-five caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days' concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair of nylon stockings. Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.

/Major Kong salutes your readiness!
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