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(SFGate)   "Dykes on Bikes" deemed unworthy of trademark because attorneys find it patently offensive. Muff divers, undeterred by political correctness, will jump in again   (sfgate.com) divider line 254
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2005-07-15 02:57:40 PM
gman69

wife beater would be offensive to those named, and that's for starters. But seeing as those named in "dykes on bikes" aren't offended? Well awful hard for anyone else to be offended without looking like a total pantywaist.
 
2005-07-15 02:58:18 PM


//imageshack you kick ass!
 
2005-07-15 02:59:16 PM
Perfect timing for the hetemeel annoyance...StupidFly wins! Unless of course Clavis hit a home run on the timing...
 
2005-07-15 02:59:22 PM
I don't care what they're called, as long as I get my toaster oven!
 
2005-07-15 02:59:50 PM
chechcal: That's the argument: who finds the term dyke to be offensive?

I find the way it is used and tone of voice to be the deciding factor here. If a person is using the word dyke in a derogatory fashion, slinging it as an insult or weapon, then it is offensive to me. If it is used in a joking manner by friends, or people who themselves identify with the label, then I don't find it offensive.
 
2005-07-15 03:02:12 PM
Mmmmmm. Clam diving.

Hold the liver particles.

/TA-DA!!
//Aristocrats
 
2005-07-15 03:02:29 PM
Couldn't they copyright the term? Or would that not really make a difference? Seems like you can copyright just about anything.

Perhaps I'm missing the point, but I'm sure someone will fill me in.


heh heh 'fill me in'

/dork
 
2005-07-15 03:03:04 PM
Nice work, StupidFly. I had no idea you were posting that.
 
2005-07-15 03:03:42 PM
irony surrenders.
 
2005-07-15 03:04:17 PM
Just like the N word. It used to be terribly offensive, now it's hip and cool (sometimes).

Personally I don't give a rats ass. Call yourself whatever you like. It's just words. I don't use the N word or dyke because I was raised to find those words offensive. If you don't find them offensive, good for you. Use them all you want, it won't offend me. I'm straight and white. Blacks and lesbians don't bother me in any way, no matter what they call themselves.

What we really need here is more dyke pics though!
 
2005-07-15 03:04:55 PM
ThereAreFourLights:

I find the way it is used and tone of voice to be the deciding factor here. If a person is using the word dyke in a derogatory fashion, slinging it as an insult or weapon, then it is offensive to me. If it is used in a joking manner by friends, or people who themselves identify with the label, then I don't find it offensive.

You can say that about any word though, "liberal", "neo-con", "LARPer", etc. That's why I think the whole "queer" thing is interesting. Seriously, if anybody anywhere tried to use "queer" as an insult, no matter how it was toned, would the recipient do anything but laugh?
 
2005-07-15 03:06:35 PM
smeag0l
I've got it on good authority that the lesbians you see in pr0n are not the same in real life.

Of course not. But the couple that works at the local strip club are VERY real and VERY fun to watch!
 
2005-07-15 03:06:44 PM
Clavis: sometimes, the stars align just right... but sometimes, a coworker is looking over your shoulder. Beautiful timing no less.

/i want multiple, too!
//and a designer penis
 
2005-07-15 03:07:44 PM
chechcal: You can say that about any word though, "liberal", "neo-con", "LARPer", etc.

EXACTLY.
 
2005-07-15 03:08:24 PM
ThereAreFourLights [UltraFark]

I find the way it is used and tone of voice to be the deciding factor here. If a person is using the word dyke in a derogatory fashion, slinging it as an insult or weapon, then it is offensive to me. If it is used in a joking manner by friends, or people who themselves identify with the label, then I don't find it offensive.

I think that that's the big point that we (as a majorly PC culture) miss. It's the manner that it's used that's real important.

Case in point: I've got a friend that's a midget, and last night I was reminiscing about her with one other person that knew her and some other friends that had never met her. I'm telling a fond memory I have of her, and I describe her as a midget when my friend interrupts me and says 'It's "Little Person" not "Midget"'. But I wasn't using it derrogitorraly (sp?), why should it be offensive?

And what's real silly is when we decide that one word is too offensive, so we make up another word to describe someone. Then, THAT word becomes too offensive, and we change it to something else. (retarded people used to be called 'dumb', but now, 'retarded' is somehow offensive, so it's rude to call retarded people anything but 'mentally handicapped')

We really get our panties in a wad over nothing sometimes...
 
2005-07-15 03:09:08 PM
You get em CLAVIS...

though you have done funnier work.
 
2005-07-15 03:09:59 PM
We really get our panties in a wad over nothing sometimes...

I don't know, "little person porn" doesn't really have the same ring to it.
 
2005-07-15 03:09:59 PM
I didn't even know they still used "dyke". To me it sounds as relevant as "honkey".

/jive turkey
 
2005-07-15 03:10:01 PM
I, for one, looooove a good use of the laughing guy.

Kudos to Clavis.
 
2005-07-15 03:11:18 PM
Zaz - Does the status of the word dyke come and go in cycles? "Queer" was rude for a while until gays decided to take it back about 15 years ago.

I use "queer" as just another word for weird, and this girl I was friends with at the time used to hit me for it. It's not like I'm trying to be derogatory towards lesbians... I mean, I have 3 "moms" and I'm pretty sure that means 2 aren't straight..
 
2005-07-15 03:11:21 PM
Yeah, I dig laughing guy too. So that's just like, your opinion, man.
 
2005-07-15 03:11:40 PM
I'm so careful I even call my wire cutting pliers lesbians.
 
2005-07-15 03:12:55 PM
PerilousApricot

Do midgets always want to ride in the front seat?
 
2005-07-15 03:14:32 PM
Headso

I think they ride in the back because of airbags & such.
 
2005-07-15 03:14:57 PM
Jeffy Jeff
What we really need here is more dyke pics though!

...I'd be more specific if I were you. Or you might get a picture of me and my short hair and polo shirt and men's cargoes! OH NOES!!

/not saying you're a jerk or anything
/just saying there's lots of kinds of dykes
/like so many before me have said
 
2005-07-15 03:15:38 PM
The term "dyke" is not offensive? Ok.

How 'bout "donut bumpers"? "Carpet munchers"? "Heroins of the hatchet wound"? "Women in comfortable shoes"?
 
2005-07-15 03:15:55 PM
Hehe, it's gotten to the point where it's a just a big joke with my friends now. Kinda a ritual greeting, scream "farkING DYKE" at each other from across the parking lot and then laugh when the other groups heads spin round and they look ready to chew out the bigoted bastard screaming at them, only to break into laughter a second later when they see its one of their friends.
 
2005-07-15 03:16:58 PM
I hear their motto is 'It's a dog eat dog world'...
 
2005-07-15 03:17:39 PM
I seem to recall that when I lived in the Bay Area there was a local all-lesbian bike messenger service named "Lickety Split". I thought that was hilarious.

On a related note, I've always been curious. When lesbians decide to confront their sexuality, are they automatically issued softball uniforms from some kind of central office?

I'm not trying to be insulting, I swear. I live with a lesbian and have a few lesbian friends. But what is it with lesbians and softball?
 
2005-07-15 03:19:06 PM
I'm so careful I even call my wire cutting pliers lesbians.

Actually these are Diges, short for "diagonal cutting". So you're cool. Not too many people will understand this, I presume.
 
2005-07-15 03:19:29 PM
Boonlert Boonpan:

I have this theory that every lesbian woman in the United States gets their haircut at the same salon. It's part of the uniform. You get the haircut the same day they issue the Wrangler jeans and penny loafers.

i find that more offensive that anyone calling me a dyke. and i agree with cargrrl that if the dykes on the bikes aren't offended, why should anyone else be?

/damn proud dyke. pretty butch but i call myself all sorts of names.
 
2005-07-15 03:20:01 PM
Yeah, I dig laughing guy too. So that's just like, your opinion, man.

Also, dude, dyke is not the preferred...ah...vagitarian american, please.
 
2005-07-15 03:20:13 PM
But what is it with lesbians and softball?

They still long to touch some balls....that is all

//My cat's breath smells like catfood.
 
2005-07-15 03:20:13 PM
I live with a lesbian and have a few lesbian friends

Tell us more...slowly....don't leave anything out...
 
2005-07-15 03:20:23 PM
I seem to recall that when I lived in the Bay Area there was a local all-lesbian bike messenger service named "Lickety Split".

That is hilarious!
 
2005-07-15 03:20:56 PM
Rann Xerox
Define "Normal."

Okay... I see the trap so I'll try not to walk in to it. But in my opinion, regardless of your sexual preference, running around yelling, "look at me! I'm a _______!!! Conform to this or be labeled as hating all _______!!!" doesn't make you normal. If I made all sorts of demands on people just because of the fact I'm white and straight, I'd get thrown to the dogs. So I'll take a chance and say most people living in this country do not approve of the word "dyke" and somehow find it offensive. Hence how society makes it "norms".
 
2005-07-15 03:22:28 PM
Actually one thing no one has brought up is the idea that dykes on bikes always involves Harleys. Yeah that's the stereotype, but lots of dykes with sport bikes. Interestingly they're usually the really femme ones.
 
2005-07-15 03:23:03 PM
Patent office attorneys even point to Webster's dictionary, which says dyke is "often used disparagingly."

And what does Webster's dictionary have to say about this trademark?


*cough*doublestandard*cough*
 
2005-07-15 03:24:19 PM
Mom, is that you?
 
2005-07-15 03:24:38 PM


/ph33r
 
2005-07-15 03:25:07 PM
...if the dykes on the bikes aren't offended, why should anyone else be?

So it is acceptable for a group to be called "Cock lickers"?

It means what you want it to mean, and what you want it to mean, you might not want your kids to see.
 
2005-07-15 03:26:12 PM
Sigdiamond2000:

Well, after you come out, you have to go through Lesbian Training 101. You are issued your lesbian uniform (levis and a wifebeater - I mean, "a-shirt") and either kickass boots or birkenstocks. Then, of course, you go through sensitization. We also get to have pillow fights during the breaks. Upon graduation, we're all handed some chapstick, softball mitt, and our lesbian club card.

*grin*

/levi-wearing, a-shirt, birkenstock-sporting 'tweener dyke

(I really dislike the word "lesbian." Give me "dyke," "queer," or "gay" anyday!)
 
2005-07-15 03:27:02 PM
buttcat:

If I made all sorts of demands on people just because of the fact I'm white and straight, I'd get thrown to the dogs.

Just out of curiousity, what are the women in question demanding of you?
 
2005-07-15 03:27:34 PM
"Remember me as a drain on society..."

This is either a PC posture on their part or it's a passive agressive move. One or the other, and I'd favor the second one.

Good luck, oh Dykes on Bikes. I'll bet the second submission for trademark is the charm.
 
2005-07-15 03:27:39 PM
If they had stuck with the original name, "biatches That Eat Vagina and Ride Motorcycles," they would have had no problem at all.
 
2005-07-15 03:27:49 PM
I prefer the term "Vaginal Technician."


/once made a lesbian friend shave my back, God, she hated that.
 
2005-07-15 03:27:54 PM
Headso

That brought back a funny memory. Back in high school one day when I had a friend over, he went to get my football out of my closet. And he sees not just the football, but a basketball, volleyball, a bunch of baseballs and tennis balls, and goes "For a lesbian you sure love balls". I don't think either of us could stop laughing for the next ten minutes.

InflatableJesus

A recent poll done by AP said only ten percent of Native Americans are offended by such sport team names. Also redskin didn't start out as a derogatory term.
 
2005-07-15 03:27:54 PM
in other news, 87% of farkettes are dykes, only 13% own bikes.
 
2005-07-15 03:27:58 PM
Here in Toronto, the day before the Pride Parade, there was the Dyke March. It was actually up until then that I thought "dyke" was this very offensive term. Then again, I grew up in the boring, protective suburbs of Oshawa and only moved to Toronto last summer.

By the way, that HA!HA! poster thing never fails to make me laugh.
 
2005-07-15 03:28:15 PM
ThereAreFourLights

Just out of curiousity, what are the women in question demanding of you?

Not sex. Definately not sex.
 
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