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(thatsracin.com)   Kevin Harvick suspended from this week's NASCAR race. Redneck rioting ensues.   (thatsracin.com) divider line 294
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2002-04-14 10:00:46 AM  
"NASCAR had enough, black-flagged Harvick and parked him for the day."

I knew it, Race-ist. (The groaning may now begin)
 
2002-04-14 11:59:39 AM  
gawddamn redneck hillbilly bullshiat - NASCAR has turned into a friggin joke
 
2002-04-14 12:20:41 PM  
Little early for the redneck jokes isn't it? If you don't like NASCAR, don't watch it. And better still, don't comment on it.
 
2002-04-14 03:28:30 PM  
Dang rednecks farked the page, and now it comes up blank.

Is it any surprise that NASCAR and "Pro" wrestlin' share much of their audience?
 
2002-04-14 03:30:47 PM  
I've always wondered why Nascar is full of rednecks. I still don't know how rednecks could be rich enough or intelligent enough to drive such a fast and complicated ve-hickle.
 
2002-04-14 03:31:53 PM  
And so starts the comments from the people who don't understand auto racing.
 
2002-04-14 03:33:04 PM  
Once the trailer and sat dishes are paid off, you can call the chewing tabacco companies and get them to pay for the car.
 
2002-04-14 03:34:23 PM  
And so starts the comments from the people who don't understand auto racing.

Let me see.... drive really fast in a oval track?
 
2002-04-14 03:34:37 PM  
It would be different for me if each car company didn't have to have equal cars. Having them run the same general specs makes it depend entirely on the driver and crew. I think the cars should be allowed to be different, rather they(various car companies) should be able to put their best vehicles on the track. Then we could get a better view of what the car companies have to offer. It appears to me that it does not mater what the name brand on the car is as it makes no difference when it comes to general specs. My view is from the outside looking in as I normally don't watch NASCAR unless its the INDY 500.
 
2002-04-14 03:35:04 PM  
Farked page. Hmmph. Here's a better story on it.

Anyway, Harvick needs to cool his jets. He seems to think that being the heir to Dale Earnhardt's seat makes him God's gift to racing, and everyone else should fark off. I can't stand him. He got what he had coming.
 
2002-04-14 03:35:22 PM  
3M TA3: Thank you. Just proved my point.
 
2002-04-14 03:35:24 PM  
Next thing you know they are going to make it all but impossible for a black man in America today to race along with them.

Ummm.....wait a minute....
 
2002-04-14 03:37:22 PM  
"My view is from the outside looking in as I normally don't watch NASCAR unless its the INDY 500."

No kidding. The Indy 500 isn't NASCAR.
 
2002-04-14 03:38:38 PM  
I'll admit that I don't understand the appeal of automotive racing (at least of the racetrack variety), but I also don't understand the appeal NASCAR has towards the "gene pool filtered challenged" stereotype that surrounds it (or at least why many people from these areas that hicks are usually thought to have come from love it so). Unlike the cheesy pro-wrestling we have today, there really isn't anything about NASCAR that would draw "poorer, less educated" people in to the shows. It's really odd.
 
2002-04-14 03:42:21 PM  
NASCAR racing is for poorer less educated folk. It's for idiots.
 
2002-04-14 03:42:55 PM  
Rednecks make damn good drivers. One of my neighbors in my redneck community is old time driver Johnny Rutherford. That's 3-time Indy 500 champion Johnny Rutherford.
 
2002-04-14 03:43:57 PM  
It would be different for me if each car company didn't have to have equal cars. Having them run the same general specs makes it depend entirely on the driver and crew.

So you would prefer the same team/car to win every week. That is basically what happens in F1, there is one domiant car and that is who wins. At least with NASCAR, the winner of the race is not determined by what make of car that he drives. Watch Days of Thunder, the reason that Cole wants to run NASCAR is that the cars are all equal and that any given driver on any given day has an equal shot at winning.
 
2002-04-14 03:45:14 PM  
Rhiannon: Here's the thing, I love auto racing, I hate NASCAR, funny thing is, I also hate IRL, and world of outlaws, ARCA, USAC, you name it, I most likely hate it. Why? Well, I just don't feel like the constant left turn is enough of a challenge to the drivers or the cars. Let's examine, oh, say IRL for a sec. Only one race is popular: Indianapolis. There are at BEST 5 drivers in IRL who would even have a chance of being competitive in CART. Tony George will be doing all of us a big favor when he adds a few road courses to IRL next year. First, it will provide some variety, and second, it will force some of these jokes they call drivers out into the open as hacks. NASCAR is the same way. Only 3 drivers (Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, Robby Gordon) have any real driving talent. NASCAR is amazing to me. It is the ONLY racing in the world that has "second-tier" racing (Truck series) that is faster than its premier event (Winston Cup...dont believe me, check the times from Daytona this year). Not only that, there are people in NASCAR who have been driving for DECADES, but have never won a race. Most racing series require that you at least be competitive if you want to keep your ride for more than a week or two. Not NASCAR, that would fark up the good ole boy system of family teams and drivers they have going. Ah well, all this is doing is raising my blood pressure, I am going to go watch teh CART race at Long Beach on FOX now.
 
2002-04-14 03:45:42 PM  
I guess I'm trying to say, why is it seen as "undignified"? I mean, in the early does of horseless carriages, the upperclass participated in cross-country races all the time (of course, they were the only ones with cars then). In Jodesi's somewhat prejudiced words, why is it "for idiots"?
 
2002-04-14 03:48:50 PM  
"Only 3 drivers (Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, Robby Gordon) have any real driving talent"
Yeah, right.

"It is the ONLY racing in the world that has "second-tier" racing (Truck series) that is faster than its premier event"

Wrong on so many levels
 
2002-04-14 03:50:24 PM  
fark you all NASCAR rules and so does kevin harvick
 
2002-04-14 03:50:43 PM  
I just thought that the point was advertising, not racing. Bad enough each car is a moving billboard. I agree that balance is good, I just think that the car should matter more. If one company was dominating it may force the other companies to spend more money on R&D so they may have a better shot. Like I said, I am ignorant to NASCAR so my opinion is shiat as Rhiannon hinted.
 
2002-04-14 03:51:39 PM  
That didn't look like a hint, exactly.
 
2002-04-14 03:51:44 PM  
How did I type "early does of horseless carriages" when I meant to type "early days of horseless carriages"? Damn, that don't make no sense...
 
2002-04-14 03:53:35 PM  
Crotchrocket Slim is a little off todoe.
 
2002-04-14 03:54:03 PM  
Don't get me wrong, as much as I complain about it, I am still just a true racing fan, so I watch pretty much anything that is televised. That includes NASCAR. I am simply saying there are some things I would like to change about it. Nevertheless, I stand by my previous statements. Especially the one about the lack of talent among the drivers in NASCAR. Do you ever watch Watkins Glen or Sears Point? The cars aren't really designed for that, but christ, these guys are supposed to be professionals and they turn these great tracks into a joke. And seriously, check the times and speeds from Daytona, the trucks were faster and no matter how much I dis Winston Cup, that should never happen....sad but true.
 
2002-04-14 03:54:05 PM  
Would you have prefered me just say something ignorant like "NASCAR is for the inbred"?
 
2002-04-14 03:57:10 PM  
04-14-02 03:43:57 PM Bigman51

So you would prefer the same team/car to win every week. That is basically what happens in F1, there is one domiant car and that is who wins. At least with NASCAR, the winner of the race is not determined by what make of car that he drives. Watch Days of Thunder, the reason that Cole wants to run NASCAR is that the cars are all equal and that any given driver on any given day has an equal shot at winning.


No, I would not prefer that the same driver and car win every week. The race should be determined by BOTH the driver and the car. This asinine attitude that "all of the cars must be equal" is SO politically correct that it makes me sick. There are ENOUGH top cars in NASCAR that one team would not dominate everything. It wasn't very long ago that NASCAR required the manufacturers to make a change in the street car(and produce 500 copies of it) if a change was to be made in the racing version of the car(remember the Monte Carlo SS Aerocoupe? The Olds Cutlass Supreme? The Buick Regal?) - no longer. Remember the IROC series? The premise was "equal cars, let the drivers battle it out." Well, one driver usually dominated it every year. Is there any interest in it anymore? Barely. NASCAR is moving in that direction. The only thing keeping the sanctioning body from requiring a common body and engine is the MONEY the automakers pump into the sport. Equalizing everything sucks. It takes a fundamental element out of the sport - the cars.

BTW, Days of Thunder is hardly reality - although Nicole Kidman was pretty hot.
 
2002-04-14 03:58:45 PM  
Site's farked, just like all those rednecks' stepchildren (fire away, mods).
 
2002-04-14 04:00:27 PM  
NASCAR... boring as all sin to watch but I'd love to take my car on an open track and push the bastard to its limit... So I guess I'd be a NASCAR driver before a spectator.
 
2002-04-14 04:00:49 PM  
D_rock211, you're right, running Cup cars on road courses is a joke. As for the speeds at Daytona and Talladega, the insurance companies and the lawyers are calling the shots on that one. Bobby Allison's May 1987 wreck at Talladega woke them up. I say replace that spoiler with a wing, run a smaller carburetor instead of that Godforsaken restrictor plate, and let 'em race.
 
2002-04-14 04:01:18 PM  
As far as qualifying speeds Truck Series vs Winston at Daytona, you do know that they run with restrictor plates right? No, I didn't think so.
 
2002-04-14 04:01:37 PM  
I don't like NASCAR because it's just the same three cars (well, four, now that Dodge decided to play), that have NOTHING at all to do with their stock models, not even the frame or chassis. Plus, all they do (with few exceptions) is turn left! :-P boooooring.

Finally, they have such overpowered cars, and move at such speeds, that a mistake can KILL people (Dale Earnhardt style).

I prefer the British Touring Car Championship:
Not only do you have a talented team of racers from around the world, but many, many car manufacturers participate, including Honda, Ford, Nissan, Audi, Volvo, Renault, Peugeot, and BMW. They have cars with stock bodies (reinforced with roll cages, but it's not a custom built body like the NASCARS), and they do lots of twisty road courses that never move fast enough to KILL people. So it's all good fun, narrated by witty British announcers. I love it!
 
2002-04-14 04:03:07 PM  
Fulgore243, you're right about the touring car series; it's a lot of fun to watch!
 
2002-04-14 04:04:37 PM  
*l* It's funny to listen to all the people who don't know what they're talking about when it comes to NASCAR. More action than Indy racing, and while the tracks are often less complicated, there is more traffic to deal with constantly. Not just for rednecks, although I did grow up in North Carolina, so I can't exclude myself.
 
2002-04-14 04:07:04 PM  
They can race at night too, since their headlights aren't just painted on like NASCARS' :)

 
2002-04-14 04:10:48 PM  
Rhiannon: Yes, I do know that they run with restrictor plates (another something I would like to see changed in NASCAR). Trust me, if there were a FARK auto racing trivia competition, I might not win, but I'd bear in the top three at least. I watch pretty much every kind of racing you can think of (yes, that includes NHRA ...*covers face in shame*) and I keep up with all the news from all the series. I even have contacts to some racing journalists. I keep up email conversations with Robin Miller, and until recently (he hates me now) Jack Arute (not my fault he is a Tony George apologist). Back to the restrictor plates...they are useless. the truck series is a huge joke, and to have them racing at speeds above WC is intolerable. Actually, not really, half the Truck and Busch series is made up of Winston Cup regulars every week.

On a friendlier note, what do you think of the new format the Winston race that was announced this week?
 
2002-04-14 04:13:57 PM  
Hmm I dont see the point of nascar. If you want stupid fast just watch drag racing. If you want fast with the more skill than "I cant turn left, draft, pass and block" watch F1 or the touring car series. Any monkey can press an accelerator. Besides any event primarily attended by bud swilling indivduals with confederate flags and HD tshirts is something I love to miss.
 
2002-04-14 04:15:36 PM  
D_rock211: I would prefer more cars myself
 
2002-04-14 04:19:47 PM  
Ah, a Nascar thread and sho'nuff, Rhiannon breaks out with another fanatical defense of the "sport." The old saying needs to be amended to not only include "death and taxes" but also the certainty of Rhiannon taking near stroke inducing offense at someone thinking that Nascar isn't the world's greatest commercial....er,...sorry... redneck convention.... ummm, sorry again... uhhh.... sport?
 
2002-04-14 04:20:04 PM  
Isol8d yawn. I'm not much of a NASCAR fan, but I am a redneck. And good for you wimp.
 
2002-04-14 04:23:04 PM  
I'm sorry I was searching for my nitro glycerin. Ole' heart you know.
I'm just pissed that they want people to pay for Racecast now.
 
2002-04-14 04:27:19 PM  
AHA, finally some agreement. I figure as long as they are going with this "survivor" format, they should at least start out with a regular-sized field. Oh well, I could talk racing all day, but I must be off to the spectroscopy lab to put my quantum chemistry talent of plenty into use.
 
2002-04-14 04:32:13 PM  
Rhiannon - are you a dude or a chick?
 
2002-04-14 04:34:56 PM  
Personally I'd much rather see airplane racing, like P-51 Mustangs and such. I wonder why one rarely if ever sees such events broadcast?
 
2002-04-14 04:37:29 PM  
i used to like NASCAR until the innerbred hillbilly kissin cuz bud drinkin fug ups came in and started all the bullshiat - and jeff gordon is gay i have nothing against gay people - my best friend is gay why the fugg wont he justify the fact that even racecar drivers can swing to the other side too, bullshiat ignorance
 
2002-04-14 04:37:48 PM  
Fulgore243- NASCAR races at night too
 
2002-04-14 04:38:04 PM  
Nascar's biggest problem is how they try to make all the cars equal. If Chevy is faster than Ford, then Ford needs to work harder. Nascar letting Ford run lower spoilers than Chevy is like giving a football team an extra man on the field because they're not as good as their opponents. If your car's too slow, tough luck. It's up to you to find a way to make it go faster, and making your own personal set of rules isn't it.

It's called auto racing for a reason, if it were just about the drivers, then the one with the fastest reaction time would be declared the winner and you'd save yourself two hours of watching people drive in circles. The car, engineers, pit crew etc. all play just as important a role as the driver.

In order to win you should have to build your team from scratch, work hard, and end up faster than everyone else. Winning shouldn't depend on how may people you drive off the road, or getting a lucky break on a yellow flag they through out because of a piece of paper on the track at turn 4. The governing body shouldn't choose who they want to win.
 
2002-04-14 04:39:32 PM  
Metalstill: You know, Ive been wondering a long time when someone was going to ask that. I'm a dude. Just a huge Stevie Nicks fan.
 
2002-04-14 04:40:34 PM  
Not NASCAR, that would fark up the good ole boy system of family teams and drivers they have going.

so you'd rather have the bullshiat like in any other major sport where people get traded and fired over one game? At least NASCAR has some history left in it, unlike every other major sporting association where you cant even keep track of who the fark is on a team from year to year
 
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