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haemaker		2005-07-07 06:59:45 PM

SwiftFox

If you get tired and almost fall asleep during the day, or can never remember your dreams, get the sleep study before the laser vision correction.

lomans		2005-07-07 07:00:20 PM

Been using a CPAP for about a year and I'm now 27. Also, I never ever sleep any way but on my side and I had Sleep Apnea for years before became overweight.

The new energy I feel from getting healthy sleep has changed my life. My wife said she noticed the change in me right after I got my CPAP.

Like others have said, snoring can be an indicator of Sleep Apnea. My first test was with a device that recording my breathing/snoring while I slept.

Now I'm titilated about my new titration. :)

posicat		2005-07-07 07:00:49 PM

Luke, I am your CPAP!

haemaker		2005-07-07 07:03:26 PM

lomans

Did you dream before? When I got a BiPAP, I found suddenly having dreams shocking.

Draft_Dodger		2005-07-07 07:07:30 PM

Has anyone ever had a sleep study done and found out they DON'T wake up 40 times an hour?

*raises hand*
did the sleep study last summer - I was borderline, but not bad enough for insurance to cover the CPAP, so the snoring continues...

Crazytree		2005-07-07 07:10:58 PM

Do skinny people get sleep apnea too?

Modified Cornstarch		2005-07-07 07:14:18 PM

Wow. I've seen more detailed journalism on a Bazooka Bubblegum wrapper.

"Hey, we need an article about snoring."
"Okay."
"You got a week."
"Fine."
6 days, 23 hours, 55 minutes later
"Lessee, google... snore solutions... ok, copy, paste
okay, let's tighten this baby up... there. Here ya go, chief."
"Excellent work! Say, can you show me this internet thing I've heard so much about lately?"
"Whatever."

TheGoodGuy		2005-07-07 07:16:31 PM

I am 26, a few months ago got the Sleep study done. Turns out I do have sleep apnea (no idea of the count). I havent gotten the CPAP. The doctor wanted to operate to take out my tonsils (which are enlarged)and soft pallet. I have been expriemnting with other stuff, the CPAP machine with my insurance or buying it outright is still VERY expensive. 1500 dollars for the CPAP, 2000-2500 for the BiPAP.
I am 5-10 lbs overweight (i lost it, but i gain it back when i am not watching my weight). The end result I found is that sleeping with a different pillow (contour ones) and using some nasal drops help me. Funny thing, i never had sleep apnea before my trip to the midwest. I never snored that loud. Something happened during my trip out east. My apnea is being caused by a 'clogged' nasal pathway, aka: allergies.

jzuska		2005-07-07 07:17:14 PM

No smoking or drinkin.... how would anyone be able to put up with my snoring otherwise

Minus1Kelvin		2005-07-07 07:19:23 PM

Pish, losers. This is no problem for me because:

Wait a minute...

"Oh...I just made myself sad..."

walkingtall		2005-07-07 07:19:39 PM

Farktastique

I enjoyed your profile very much. That was good for some laughs.

Discordian36		2005-07-07 07:26:24 PM

HangMan		2005-07-07 07:28:29 PM

Other tips include not breathing and only sleeping with deaf people...

housedogpartyfavor		2005-07-07 07:30:32 PM

"Surgical procedures are the big lie. No lasting relief can be obtained, and the procedures are painful."

bullshiat. even as a little kid i snored incredibly loud, and i've been UNDERweight my entire life. my family is cursed with abnormally large tonsils, and i had a huge uvula as well. i had a sleep study done when i was 19, during which i stopped breathing about 50 times and had another 40 bouts of shallow breathing. it didn't matter whether i was on my back or side, i snored very loudly and stopped breathing.

rather than fark around with a stupid retainer or air machine every night for the rest of my life, i opted for the surgery, and i have no doubt that i made the right choice. i had my tonsils, adenoids, and uvula removed and my deviated septum corrected. almost 10 years later i can't snore even if i try and i actually dream and feel refreshed when i wake up.

get the surgery if it's right for you. yes, it's painful and the recovery is miserable. but sacrificing 1 week of yr life for a lifetime of sweet dreams is worth it.

Wulfhardt		2005-07-07 07:33:40 PM

Actually, it's a very simple priniciple why many men are troubled with snoring.

The doodads fall over the posterior orifice there and it creates vapor-lock. Very simple.

So fellas, just remember to duct tape that gobbler to your abdomen each night and I guarantee you won't be physically capable of snoring anymore.

/yeah, I'm tasteless
//regularly snores and talks when sleeping

housedogpartyfavor		2005-07-07 07:34:09 PM

crazytree: "Do skinny people get sleep apnea too?"

yes. i snored since i was about 4 years old, developed sleep apnea probably around puberty, and i've been underweight my whole life. i weigh the same now as i did when i had the surgery, which is about 145 lbs., and i'm 5'11". (after the surgery i dropped down to less than 120.)

Oysterkid		2005-07-07 07:43:57 PM

My SO snores like a chainsaw, the only idea that has worked to block out the sound(s) coming from him at night has been setting a fan directly next to my head, setting it on high, laying one ear directly onto the mattress and covering the other ear with a pillow. I don't get much sleep.

fivestringer		2005-07-07 07:47:46 PM

MedusaOne

There are battery operated CPAP machines out there. Go to "www.cpapman.com" - this guy will fix you right up.

imcguyver		2005-07-07 07:52:33 PM

My brother had surgery to fix his snoring - on request by his wife. She has him by the balls.

vermicin		2005-07-07 07:56:32 PM

Damn.. I have no dreams that I can remember, bit overweight, male, tired during the day, girlfriend says I snore very loudly and her doctor sister thinks I might have sleep apnea based on the times I've fallen asleep on the couch when she's around...

I have medical insurance, maybe I should get this checked out. It could open up a whole new world :)

wookie1		2005-07-07 08:05:45 PM

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10.0.0.1		2005-07-07 08:14:25 PM

While we're on the subject, you may also look at VPAP. This is Variable Positive Airway Pressure.

Little elves inside the machine monitor your breathing patterns and continuously adjust the pressure as needed. These boxen are very expensive and most insurance won't cover them. They are often used for a short period (like a month) and then replaced with either CPAP or BiPAP machines. They record information that can later be downloaded, telling your polysomnologist what pressure level is best for you.

/that is all for now.
//okay it is electronics, not elves.

backdrop69		2005-07-07 08:21:53 PM

My husband has apnea and snored like crazy. Tried the CPAP and was non-compliant (meaning he didn't use it after I paid the $$ the insurance wouldn't cover). He finally had the surgery done (UPPP) uvuloplatopharangeoplasty along with tonsil removal and a roto-rooter up the nose. They even did an experimental treatment to shrink the tissues of his tongue by subjecting it to high frequency radio waves. That was a year and a half ago. He no longer wakes the dead, but does snore a little if he is dead tired. His apnea is better but not cured. He should still use the CPAP that is in the closet. He was in pain for over 8 weeks after the surgery and could not eat solid food for about 10 weeks. He had to learn how to swallow again without choking since the back of his throat is larger, and liquids often regurgitate up into his nose. The smell from his mouth after the surgery would make me want to throw up...I guess it was the decaying tissues. It has been a year and a half, but he would have the surgery again...he feels so much better.

Forsythe P. Jones		2005-07-07 08:23:52 PM

I had to re-calibrate the motion sensor alarms in our house,my wife snores so loud.

O.K.,I'm kidding. But any of you have any thoughts on the "sleeping on your back" vs. "sleeping on your side"? I got Jan a body pillow type-thingy,and once she got used to sleeping on her side instead of her back,her snoring has gone away.

steveGswine		2005-07-07 08:45:39 PM

I snore, my bride snores - a tip for y'all.

If you're elbowing, or waking your bed partner with the in-the-face "HEY STOP THAT", you're where I was.

One night, I decided to just rub her tummy instead.

She cooed in her sleep, shifted around a little, and suddenly all was silent.

That was great... I resolved to try it again next time, happy I got it solved without abusing a defenseless spouse who I really kind of like.

Next time I tried it, she cooed in her sleep, shifted around a little - and she woke up.

That... was better.

Seriously, is there anything about this that doesn't seem like it's worth a try?

slepygryhnd		2005-07-07 08:46:59 PM

My husband just had the surgery. Apparently he had "gigantic" tonsils and woke up an average of 95 times an hour while sleeping on his side, 105 average on his back. He's been on percocet much of the time since the surgery last Monday. He's hoping to get to go back to work tomorrow afternoon. It's a rough surgery, but the snoring is already gone, and he's been sleeping really, really well, even when the percocet wears off. Yippee!!!

workingpoor		2005-07-07 08:47:29 PM

I had my Uvula removed for my snoring problem.
I was eating chicken wings and garlic bread the next day.
Mind you I was also drinking beer and chewing T3'S (from what I remember)
Anywho...the surgery worked for me.
Just my 2 cents.

serutan		2005-07-07 08:47:41 PM

Wow, we should have informative articles like this more often! The crisp writing and insightful tips are a "must read" for teens and grownups alike.

mbrother		2005-07-07 08:48:38 PM

I have sleep apnea. Did a couple of sleep studies and now use a CPAP unit to sleep. The surgical options are not reliable, so I live with the CPAP. Apnea is serious -- it's not just making loud noises and waking people up, or being tired at work. Lack of oxygen can damage the heart and lead to early heart attacks, so yes, GET TESTED FOR SLEEP APNEA.

MacGabhain		2005-07-07 08:56:16 PM

Just to add to the crowd: Get a sleep study done if you snore badly. My CPAP has improved my life tremendously. I'm actually awake and can usually even remember nouns now! (I had this noun thing for years. Would have to pause for two or three seconds to come up with words like "bus". I was seriously messed up by not sleeping.)
One important caveat: Get life insurance BEFORE you get your apnea diagnosis. Having a recent apnea diagnosis (without a got two years of effective treatment) will drop you two or three categories, depending on the insurer.
Wish I'd known that.

mystic_fool		2005-07-07 08:59:59 PM

I was a horrendous snorer, it really made life hard for me and my woman...

Then I finally got surgery, a nice septumplasty and had my tonsils removed...all at age 31. I had a deviated septum from fighting and sports and my tonsils were huge for the last 10 years.

The recovery was a biatch, but the two bottles of codeine helped.
Now I don't snore a bit. ta da.

of course, now I owe $$ for this funness, and that is WITH insurance...but hey, debt is the american way.

ylikone		2005-07-07 09:16:12 PM

Another sleep apnea person here... have been using my CPAP for about 5 years now. Life. Saver.

RudMan		2005-07-07 09:19:15 PM

I meant to say --Hey, look, a bunny!
but I forgot to. I guess I got distracted.

No wonder you got distracted, he's got a pancake on his head!

//gotta love oolong

Born_Again_Pagan		2005-07-07 09:34:03 PM

Yup definitely get the life insurance before. We have it and tried to switch to another company...no such luck...you have to wait a year before they'll even consider you.

EmmaLou		2005-07-07 09:39:53 PM

I've found that kicking my fiance when he's snoring generally stops it long enough for me to get to sleep before it starts again; although he wakes up thinking someone is breaking into our apartment.

Oh well. At least I got to sleep!

zangster		2005-07-07 10:09:19 PM

I had a sleep study done and found I have severe sleep apnea which can lead to significant health problems later in life. A CPAP was prescribed but I had trouble adjusting to it so I spoke to my doctor and pursued the surgical route to correct the apnea (and the fact that I couldn't breathe at all through one side of my nose). That was about two months ago and I couldn't be happier. My breathing (through both nostrils) is so much better and I've been told my snoring has decreased significantly to a light snore. I'm going in for a sleep study in 6-8 weeks but I'm optimistic that the results will have improved. If you're interested, the procedure was a septoplasty and turbinate reduction. The recovery period was three daus of moderate discomfort but no pain, although that can be different for everyone. Talk to your doctor to see if that might help any of you.

Fabric_Man		2005-07-07 10:10:05 PM

Um... hey! What's happened to the entire farking Yahoo site?

the_coach5040		2005-07-07 10:34:18 PM

FiveSands

I drink before I go to sleep, and I smoke, and I snore.

But I WANT to snore, that way I can be more productive and piss of my GF even when I am sleeping. It helps, I wake up without the earge to make crude comments, or pull her hair.

That made me laugh.

the_coach5040		2005-07-07 10:40:06 PM

Wulf

Actually, it's a very simple priniciple why many men are troubled with snoring.

The doodads fall over the posterior orifice there and it creates vapor-lock. Very simple.

So fellas, just remember to duct tape that gobbler to your abdomen each night and I guarantee you won't be physically capable of snoring anymore.

Hilarious

5 of 8		2005-07-07 11:22:35 PM

B vitamins work best, but it takes a large dose every day for the rest of your life.

birdartist		2005-07-07 11:32:50 PM

mystic_fool,

Amen! Medical debt is the American way (Still making payments on the birth of my two kids/with insurance... and my youngest is three). That's just a portion of our total (with $1,000 a month insurance) med. stuff. Two words saved our butts, "Consolidation loan"

Was it worth it, though? You sound happy.

vamtngal		2005-07-08 12:01:43 AM

My ex snores like a freight train. Been after him for years to get it checked out, but no, he refuses. It got so bad at one point that I dug out my rifle range earplugs from my Army days. They work like a charm due to their shape (they look like mini pine trees) and replacements are really cheap. I think the Army Navy stores sell them, or anyone who has access to a Clothing and Sales store can get them. Your ear canal feels like it's being raped, but it helps cut down the noise. On a side note, I never snored until I had my son. Now I snore like a man. I guess if you get really tired the snoring just gets worse.

AngelFan63		2005-07-08 12:47:27 AM

Well, I'm late to this party.. but my SO had the surgeries, the nose one and the Uvula one (both painful to recover from) and is still using his CPAP. It's been wonderful, the peace and quiet. However, his mind is so active, he still doesn't get enough rest.

However, he needs the 3rd surgery (inplanting a screw in his chin, to pull it forward, cutting of the tongue, yadda yadda yadda) but the damn insurance company turned us down, saying it was "cosmetic".

/farkin' insurance company

KidneyStone		2005-07-08 12:54:28 AM

I snore. My cat snores (louder than you might imagine).

The GF used to laugh about it. Now she's an ex so it doesn't matter.

/I lost weight and stopped waking up in the middle of the night gasping for air

//GF's tell me I snore way less after losing the weight

///slashes prevent snoring

////zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

neuron		2005-07-08 01:31:49 AM

Earplugs, if it's just snoring.

If you're a really bad snorer, it -is- important to get tested for sleep apnea because (1) sleep apnea -will- lead to bad health outcomes, and (2) getting it treated will make you feel much more energetic.

/doctor who snores

Tanet		2005-07-08 04:11:51 AM

You know I have been wondering lately if I should get myself checked out. Basically since I've been in the military its been gradually getting worse. My snoring is loud enough that my poor wife needs ear plugs and a shop fan (no joke) to sleep at night, and even with all that I've still heard reports you can hear me across the apartment. Don't know if its sleep apnea though. Maybe more throat/nose problem, since when i run i just can't breathe out of my nose. Though on the other hand my sleep cycle has been getting less and less useful, since I wake up and just don't feel like i can go on with the day. I suppose I will get this checked out...probably have to go with the surgery since I doubt the military will give me a CPAP or whatever thingy that won't work while haze gray and under way.

unyon		2005-07-08 04:40:54 AM

I'm 37 and have been using a CPAP for almost a year (13cm H2O here... should we have a pool on who has the 'high water mark?') Fantastic treatment, 0 side effects. I couldn't recommend it higher. You don't realize how your energy level is slowly degrading over time until you get your REM sleep back. My SO and I rarely slept in the same room for the last 5 years, because I felt so bad about keeping her up at night. She's more than glad that I traded in the chainsaw for the stealth dustbuster.

The last straw was when we were out camping and the naive Dutch tourists in the motorhome next to us were convinced that a wild boar was sniffing around their camp during the night.

Haemaker: "Did you dream before? When I got a BiPAP, I found suddenly having dreams shocking."

That was absolutely the best part. After I started on the trial, I started having super, super vivid dreams, and I went from sleeping about 10 hours a day to 5, and feeling totally refreshed. I think I'm the poster child for CPAP now. I actually find it odd to sleep without being in the 'wind tunnel'

BTW- have any CPAP users here tried the nasal pillows? Are they as uncomfortable as they look?

pupdog		2005-07-08 09:05:19 AM

I've been using a cpap of one type or another since 1997 - If you think you might need to get checked, PLEASE do it. My initial sleep study showed I was not breathing nearly 40 minutes out of every hour during the ight, somewhere in the neighborhood of 140 breath-stoppages.

I've used various masks, and am currently using a nasal pillow-type unit (Resmed's Mirage Swift for those that care) and it's been great, the only problem is it exhausts right out the front, so spooning with my gf is tough, but just means she has to sleep across my chest more ;)

meg12279		2005-07-08 09:15:40 AM

anyone know a good generic place to get decent earplugs? my fiancee snores like a champ, i've been getting them from my dad (works at a papermill) but i lost my last pair. i had to sleep on the couch last night, he's only getting worse.
Guess i should try the tummy rubbing instead of kicking him.

Patsy		2005-07-08 09:32:23 AM

I have sleep apnea, and have read the success stories of the CPAP. I'm also VERY prone to sinus infection. So much so that there was a period of 4 months that I was either getting, in the middle of, or coming off a sinus infetion. It usually feels like I can't breathe through my nose without having to shop-vac my sinuses clear.
SO:
Is the CPAP rendered useless?
Get the surgery?
Misc?

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