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(News.com.au)   New hamburgers "grown in laboratory." You don't want to know where they're growing the new hotdogs   (news.com.au) divider line 77
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2005-07-06 08:37:52 PM  
 
2005-07-06 08:41:17 PM  
I got yer hotdog riiiight here. In my PANTS!

/obligatory
 
2005-07-06 08:41:44 PM  
heh heh 'grow meat' heh
 
2005-07-06 08:41:48 PM  
So this explains where McDonalds gets their hamburger meat..
 
2005-07-06 08:42:19 PM  
In your mom
 
2005-07-06 08:53:31 PM  
So I can't get a flyig car, but I CAN get a bush that grows hamburgers.

Meh, it's a fair trade.

/didn't RTFA
 
2005-07-06 09:01:02 PM  
Soon to be followed by a Mad Petri Dish scare in Europe
 
2005-07-06 09:11:46 PM  
Blatantly stolen from a thread the other day:

 
2005-07-06 09:35:31 PM  
Grown in big meat vats, like Animal 57?
 
2005-07-06 09:45:40 PM  
Gross.
 
2005-07-06 09:47:27 PM  
is it wisconsin? i bet it's wisconsin.
 
2005-07-06 09:48:05 PM  
I want veal, but it won't taste right without the suffering.
 
2005-07-07 01:42:33 AM  
Never has PETA, with all its stunts and bullsh*t, come anywhere even close to turning me off meat the way that article did.

Cells..scraped off ......membranes......stacked.....BARF!!
 
2005-07-07 02:15:51 AM  
OK, so I just came down pretty hard on this idea, but I went out for a ciggy (wonderful things -- clear the mind) and I thought of something.

You know how when you buy ground beef nice and fresh from the butcher, and it has a string-like structure? If you took some edible (or at least biologically neutral) long polymer to which grown beef cells would adhere, you could knit hamburger. KNIT HAMBURGER!! Knitted hamburger strikes me as highly desireable for some strange reason.

I think it's time for me to go to bed now.
 
2005-07-07 02:57:15 AM  
Bah! Won't taste right without having had some funky blood flowng through it for a few years. Just as beef liver is better than calves liver.
 
2005-07-07 02:57:40 AM  
Another reason to check out:

www.slowfoodusa.org
 
2005-07-07 03:03:57 AM  
Pam EL: Knitted hamburger strikes me as highly desireable for some strange reason.

Jana Sterbak will be able to make a much nicer meat dress.
 
2005-07-07 03:03:59 AM  
The hotdogs taste like ass.
 
2005-07-07 03:04:01 AM  
I tried a bit of a black bean burger at Chilli's the other day. My vegeratian friend was having it for lunch.

The thing was SO DAMN BLAND. It needed tons more salt and spices before it could hope to compete with the deliciousness of my bacon cheeseburger, or even a monterrey chicken. (Which also is covered in delicious bacon.)

The moral? I'm not too hyped up about trying more "veganburgers". So if they can actually grow real meat, and it tastes like real meat, but without the death, and veins, and fat, and bones, and gristle... Well them, that'll be great.

But will I trust it? It won't be natural. I don't trust those damn artificial sweeteners. I don't even trust Burger King burgers. They make me sick five minutes after eating them. And those are uspposedly real meat. This might be tough to get people to accept.
 
2005-07-07 03:04:46 AM  
OMG - Knit hamburgers!

/would totally eat crocheted hotdogs, too.
//not a homosexual, but just a carnivorous opinion.
///still love all kinds of 'meat'.
 
2005-07-07 03:07:27 AM  
It might not occur to the British scientist quoted that many parts of the world have large areas suitable for grazing livestock, but not well suited for growing vegetables.

Were the livestock involved removed, it would simply be replaced by wildlife which would likely generate as much greenhouse gas, though I suppose it would be possible to kill off that wildlife fast enough to keep it well below natural levels.

This would of course also require that the vegetation the cattle/wildlife would browse on be removed artificially so that fires and other ecological damage would not ensue; this plant material would have to be disposed of in a way not returning it to the air as CO2 anyway... maybe when winter rolls around, the gorillas will simply freeze to death.
 
2005-07-07 03:07:36 AM  
 
2005-07-07 03:12:27 AM  

Better solution, already available and tasty.
 
2005-07-07 03:13:28 AM  
This isn't new, veggie burgers have been around for a while..

/obligitory

//first time using slashes
 
2005-07-07 03:18:17 AM  
I hate how everyone assumes that this kind of thing won't be as good as regular meat. For all we know, this could taste BETTER than real meat. I'm all for it.

What I want to know is, is it even potentially possible to do this economically, and if so, where do they get the raw materials? Do they have to catch fish to get all the omega-3 to "feed" the meat blob? Or can they get that from plants, or whatever?
 
2005-07-07 03:20:20 AM  
So can they do this with man flesh? And if so can we legalize cannibalism?

Just wondering, that's all...
 
2005-07-07 03:21:51 AM  
For all we know, this could taste BETTER than real meat. I'm all for it.

What I want to know is, is it even potentially possible to do this economically, and if so, where do they get the raw materials?


Yes, meat alternatives are economical and taste better than meat. Raw materials are soybeans and other vegetables. See Amy's Texas Burgers above.
 
2005-07-07 03:23:39 AM  
I was suspicious of veggie burgers until some veggie-tarian friends cooked a couple of good ones for me. After I put all my usual goodies on them(Tabasco, pepper, etc), those burgers were darn good. I really couldn't detect a practical difference. By 'practical' I mean that I was just as happy eating the veggie burgers as I would have been had they been made of real meat.

My point being that In-N-Out burgers rule.
 
2005-07-07 03:24:21 AM  
 
2005-07-07 03:27:42 AM  
Birnone: Darn good just doesn't sell me. Now if they were damn good...
 
2005-07-07 03:34:00 AM  
Veggie burgers taste like ass. And, to anyone who's grossed out by the idea of lab-grown beef, check out where your processed cheese has been coming from for quite a while; basically, an artificial cow stomach, meaning a big bucket of grass and enzymes. Yum yum.

Meat is just protein, and it doesn't really make a hell of a lot of difference whether it grows in a cow or grows in a lab. And, frankly, I'd prefer knowing that my meat got onto my table without an animal being killed. Not that I'm a vegetarian by a longshot. I'm a carnivore, 'cause I know that death is a necessary part of the food chain. But that's why I'm selective -- I won't eat veal, horse, dog or lobster. But I've met enough cows to know that there isn't a whole lot going on in their heads.

Speaking of artificial meat that's yummy, Trader Joe's (a local grocery store) has been selling these burgers that come pre-stuffed with bacon and bleu cheese. They swell up like a mofo when you cook 'em, but are tasty as all hell. And also just as artificial. 'Cause, you know. If god wanted us to eat bacon/bleu cheese burgers, cows would be born stuffed with a pig and a cheese wheel.

Not.

As long as it's not Soylent Green, I've got no problem with science giving us our food. And I look forward to the day when a lab can grow a two pound boneless filet mignon for less than three bucks a pound.
 
2005-07-07 03:41:31 AM  
I'm surprised I haven't seen it yet but...

KNITTED LONG PORK IS PEOPLE!!!

/Heston, pre NRA, or NWA, or whoever...
 
2005-07-07 03:44:36 AM  


/Grown in a woman's womb...
//Yummy
 
2005-07-07 03:46:30 AM  
"You can't grow good hotdogs indoors."
 
2005-07-07 03:47:01 AM  
"New hamburgers grown in laboratory. You don't want to know where they're growing the new hotdogs."

No, and I don't want to eat any, either.
 
2005-07-07 03:50:12 AM  
DARKRIDR: Ah, yes, Long Pig. That does nothing for my appetite either.
 
2005-07-07 04:13:28 AM  
where are they growing the new hotdogs?
 
2005-07-07 04:29:51 AM  
OMFG, now we got people saying that the carbon dioxide emitted by eating meat contributes to global warming. Can they lose any more credibility than that? No, they weren't talking about cow flatulence either.
 
2005-07-07 04:31:58 AM  
JB-NoHo
...I know that death is a necessary part of the food chain. But that's why I'm selective -- I won't eat veal, horse, dog or lobster.

 
2005-07-07 04:49:00 AM  
Okay, Inflatable Jesus. I don't eat pussy, either.

Make of that what you will...
 
2005-07-07 04:49:12 AM  
Chibisuke: The thing was SO DAMN BLAND.

It doesn't surprise me. I'm a vegetarian, been one for long enough that I can't even remember what meat tastes like. But even I find most restaurant vegi-burgers bland. There's a definite art to it, and most chefs don't see enough demand or have the interest to really work at it. The last town I lived in had 'one', just one chef in the entire town who could make a good vegi-burger. By the taste of the burger, I knew the moment he'd quit.

I second that recommendation of Amy's. Their ribs especially are amazing. I don't know if it tastes like meat, but I can say that I think it tastes great.
 
2005-07-07 06:26:22 AM  
mcostas:

Yes, meat alternatives are economical and taste better than meat. Raw materials are soybeans and other vegetables. See Amy's Texas Burgers above.

yea they taste better only total farking idiots or people who have allowed ideology to make them insane. I tasted three of the most popular types including Amys. They taste like just ehat they are processed vegetable protein. They suck to high heaven.
 
2005-07-07 06:29:56 AM  
Darkridr:

I'm surprised I haven't seen it yet but...

KNITTED LONG PORK IS PEOPLE!!!

/Heston, pre NRA, or NWA, or whoever...


I am awful surprised that hollyweird hasnt done a remake of that movie yet.
 
2005-07-07 06:33:16 AM  
Robot Bastard:

OMFG, now we got people saying that the carbon dioxide emitted by eating meat contributes to global warming. Can they lose any more credibility than that? No, they weren't talking about cow flatulence either.

That is because, (even if global warming is happening) The people who use the global warming issue politicaly are against capitalism, globalism, and the entire western lifestyle. They want all the little brown and tan people to continue to live in little huts and eat rice and millit, and be recipients of our "aid".
 
2005-07-07 06:34:44 AM  
Will vegetarians eat Synth-Meat?
 
2005-07-07 06:40:36 AM  
"These sheets of cells would be grown and stretched, then removed from the membranes and stacked to increase thickness and resemble meat."

Similar to the way they now make something resembling bread.

""There would be a lot of benefits from cultured meat," Matheny said in a statement. "For one thing, you could control the nutrients.""

The industry so far has an absolutely lousy reputation for controling nutrients. What they do is control out all the actual food so it doesn't spoil on the shelf.
 
2005-07-07 06:55:20 AM  
You know what's good? Boca burgers fried in bacon grease. Mmmmmm. Makes eating at Denny's tolerable.

Can't be any other brand, though.

/meat eater
 
2005-07-07 08:11:20 AM  
I think this is pretty cool, they've been talking about doing this for a few years now, and its cool to see it actually working out. This could lead to a way to feed astronauts on missions, and if we could ever get around the stigmas of lab meat, could actually provide a reasonable alternative to having to grow cattle. I would even go so far as to say lab meat would be safer to eat than meat from our current cattle farms, which is pumped full of antibiotics and hormones.

I bet that lab meat would make for a seriously tender steak also.
 
2005-07-07 08:50:55 AM  
Would it make everyone feel better if we called the place where they make the meat a "factory" instead of a "laboratory"?
 
2005-07-07 09:12:54 AM  
omg thats very .... gross.
 
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