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(Yahoo)   Big Three U.S. automakers gearing up for price war. Quality war, fuel-efficiency war and crash-safety war will be fought sometime in the future   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 265
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2005-07-06 05:09:40 PM  
mytdawg
can't argue against that.
 
2005-07-06 05:33:03 PM  
Personally, I'd like to see American car companies start offering more manual transmission cars. I wouldn't mind if you had to pay a bit more for a manual as an option. It seems like the majority of non-sports cars in the US has converted to automatic transmissions. Better handling characteristics would help,as well. It IS possilbe for US companies to make a full-size car that handles well...The Lincoln Mark VIII handled very well for its enormous curb weight.

Although I'm not hot on American cars in general(bad designs,bad reliability,too heavy/bad handling,etc), I will admit that American pickup trucks are built very well.

Since I inherited a 1996 Saturn SL2, I might as well mention it as well. The SL2 is a damn-near perfect small American sedan. It has a decent amount of power,manual transmission, gas mileage in the 30-35mpg range,and it holds the road quite well. The ride is very comfortable. My only complaint with the car is the turning circle. On a road with two lanes in each direction, it is barely able to make a U-turn. In some parking situations, the turning circle really shows problems as well. Other than that, it's great! :)
 
2005-07-06 06:23:49 PM  
delsydsoftware
It IS possilbe for US companies to make a full-size car that handles well
True. The 9c1 (cop) & f41 caprices, and the 94-96 impala's handled great.
 
2005-07-06 06:30:40 PM  
Some guy in the little berg where I work has completely riced out a Porsche 928. I think he's got chrome 20's on it. It looks stupid as hell.
 
2005-07-06 09:16:52 PM  
kill minus nine, I know what you mean about BMWs styling. After my '87 325 was totalled, I liked the late '90s look much better than the 2000s, but after driving a few, the massive leg and knee room sold me on a 2000 323 convertible (plus it was a steal at an off-lease price of half MSRP). the 1999 3 series was a sardine can by comparison. Plus it is simply a gas to drive, much better by far than any US vehicle.

I could name thousands of people who hate on and could biatch a blue streak as a former owner of ANY make of car save one: Honda. I couldn't name 5 people who hated their Honda, they must be doing something right.
 
2005-07-06 09:56:40 PM  
I'd most definitly settle for a late-model Porsche 944 or Porsche 928. First time I saw a 928 I had to change my shorts. The 944 has really nice lines. I've seen some 914s (engine/wheels/nothing else) done up VERY nice, very nice indeed. (2.0 version that is, or the 914-6 which is insane).
For quality, I have to stick with Toyota/Lexus. Every bolt has a purpose, every nut a home.
 
2005-07-06 10:01:35 PM  
mytdawg reg: redline I've seen maybe 5 IonRedlines (live in metro-detroit btw), 1 or 2 CobaltSS, and maybe 15 SRT4s (and about 24 too many Neons with the gay srt4 appearance package) GAG!

I coulda sworn the Cobalt (and Ion) was more or less new, albeit with some leftovers from the Cav?


mytdawg I'm still pissed at GM for dropping Olds though. They could have done a retro thing and saved the line, although something is obviously going to give.


A month ago, driving home from work, I saw a biatchin olds (have no idea what year) 442. I was farking drooling, and driving at the same time. Instant boner.

/first car was a 94 olds cutlass ciera
//if i ever get money, I'm rebuying one and doing some "work"
///As well as a Colorado :D
////KILL BUICK DAMMIT. And share caddies stuff with everybody else.
/////just got back from work

No more slashes
 
2005-07-06 10:02:01 PM  



Thank you. That is all. Good night.
 
2005-07-06 10:03:06 PM  
damn. I'll take a /i to go please
 
2005-07-06 10:18:25 PM  
My credit score sucks so bad that it does not matter how good the incentive is. On the other hand, I had GREAT credit when I got my 02 on a GM 0% deal so I guess I cannot biatch huh?
 
2005-07-06 10:20:02 PM  
Party Boy: ..Still thinking of that beautiful blue '67 Camaro I was today... If I only had 60k


I remember when you could get that car for $3000.00



Aaagh!
 
2005-07-06 10:25:57 PM  
kill minus nine:

/Wants another M3 too, but will stick to looking at 2004 and before body styles.


Dude, It wil look awesome. Trust me. I've seen it.

BTW you drive it from the inside. Let the rest of the world get used to the looks.

It will deliver.

'07 BMW M3...... it will not disappoint.
 
2005-07-06 11:24:47 PM  
2005-07-06 01:36:37 PM kill minus nine [TotalFark]

Phil Herup

Also thinking about the '07 BMW M3. This car will have it all.

As an proud previous owner of several BMWs, I never really considered how much importance I put into body lines and overall looks of an automobile until this year's redesign from the manufacturer I love dearly. Never have I ever been so disappointed. In my opinion, the new face of BMW, or, this year's crappy looking line of automobiles with BMW badges on them, all look blocky, utilitarian, and uninspiring. I think they just about threw away everything that made the line distinctive save the kidney grill (which now more resembles a pontiac). And I mean EVERY series (3, 5, 6, & 7) that has had the redesign so far. I'm sure they probably drive like a dream (as BMWs tend to do), but i'll never know, since I refuse to drive something so god-awful looking. What were the designers thinking? I know i'm not the only previous Beemer owner to say so.

/Wants another M3 too, but will stick to looking at 2004 and before body styles.


Couldn't agree more. Loved the last M3, wouldn't buy the forthcoming design with someone else's money. The upcoming Audi RS4, however... more power, AWD, much better looking...

/drool
 
2005-07-06 11:52:56 PM  
Poor quality cars are the most environmentally-friendly.

I mean, really, how much gas does a car on blocks in your front yard burn? :)
 
2005-07-07 06:15:02 AM  
I could name thousands of people who hate on and could biatch a blue streak as a former owner of ANY make of car save one: Honda. I couldn't name 5 people who hated their Honda, they must be doing something right.

There were 3 in this thread and farkers tend to be positively giddy about their Hondas. A couple have bared fangs at me because I had negative comments about mine. I do love my motorcycles but I won't buy another car from them. It's good to have choices...

I coulda sworn the Cobalt (and Ion) was more or less new, albeit with some leftovers from the Cav?

They are based on the delta (I think) global chassis. No Cav leftovers except maybe some bin/ecotec parts. The platform is a couple years old. The supercharged engine was being built in Germany last I knew.
 
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