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(LA Times)   An CA family living in an expensive gated community kept a 12-year-old Egyptian girl as a servant for 18 months, having her sleep on a filthy mattress in the garage and requiring her to work days as a maid instead of going to school.   (latimes.com) divider line 277
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2002-04-12 10:55:38 AM  
The problem being ...?
 
2002-04-12 11:09:59 AM  
Is the long headline a way to help the people who do not read the article?
 
2002-04-12 12:22:50 PM  
are they republicans?
 
2002-04-12 12:23:35 PM  
Does she know the Scorpion King?
 
2002-04-12 12:23:55 PM  
ehh, it's just bad karma... they kept the jew as slaves way back in the day
 
2002-04-12 12:25:20 PM  
I thought that it was Ken Lay until I read down some more.
 
2002-04-12 12:26:13 PM  
Oh, sure. This crap-tacular article gets posted, but NOT my link to the article about Mike Tyson biting Evander Holyfield's ear during a boxing match.

Geez
 
2002-04-12 12:26:20 PM  
ok, no, they're Egyptians, where letting a 12-year-old servant girl live out back would probably not be considered so strange. in Irvine, i guess it is.

(maybe)
 
2002-04-12 12:27:30 PM  
sick
 
2002-04-12 12:28:23 PM  
bastards
 
2002-04-12 12:28:36 PM  
This really really farking sucks. I hope she'll be all right.
 
2002-04-12 12:28:38 PM  
The dude's name was Abdelnaser Ibrahim. Thats right dude, keep little girls as slaves! Allah be praised!
 
2002-04-12 12:28:39 PM  
I heard this happens alot. Usually with mexican girls.

Guy Incognito Nice troll attempt. Anyone would find this sick.
 
2002-04-12 12:28:41 PM  
Somebody needs their ass kicked over this one.
But, they're Eqyptian and live in Cali so it doesn't really impact me.
 
2002-04-12 12:28:50 PM  
The girl didn't have enough sense not to piss in her room? What, she couldn't even use the family's facilities?

I need more information. And, what, no mention of sexual abuse? Come on...I don't believe it.
 
2002-04-12 12:30:05 PM  
An Ca family?
an?
 
2002-04-12 12:30:44 PM  
"The garage doors were never open," said the neighbor, who asked not to be identified.

"They always parked their cars on the driveway."


I'm guessing this is the point the neighbours are most pissed off about. Well, that, or that they didn't think of it first, and have been paying hteir servants all along.

Also, what's up with describing the neighbourhood as "decorated with statuettes and paintings in ornate frames"? What, do they have lawn jockeys, and they got the $12 frames from Target instead of using thumbtacks?
 
2002-04-12 12:32:21 PM  
At least they were nice enough not to park on her matress or stink up the garage with exaust fumes. I bet the conditions are not any better in Egypt.
 
2002-04-12 12:32:22 PM  
Rich bastards. I say we slaughter the lot of them, and storm the Bastille and let everyone out.
 
2002-04-12 12:32:23 PM  
typical muslim bullshiat, treating women like animals
 
2002-04-12 12:32:42 PM  
Yet another example of how rich Arabs treat poor Arabs. I wonder why they hate America so much?!?!?!?!?!?
 
2002-04-12 12:33:02 PM  
Can't wait to see them crying in court about how they can't afford to pay their fine.
 
2002-04-12 12:33:34 PM  
How sad.
 
2002-04-12 12:33:34 PM  
Yeah, Thermos, I wondered about that, then read the article. Really lazy headlining there. Cut and paste of the pirst paragraph is crappy to begin with, but then to substitute CA for Irvine (in case no one knows where that is) and leaving the an in there is inforgivable. Hell, I don't even submit the article if I can't think of a good headline, and I've had one of maybe 40 submissions posted.
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2002-04-12 12:33:36 PM  
I'm wondering how they kept her 12 years old for 18 months....
 
2002-04-12 12:33:51 PM  
Okay, so her room smelled like urine and the guy's boys were seen "whizzing around the neighborhood..."
If you can aford a slave, you can afford an out-house, for Allah's sake.
 
2002-04-12 12:35:26 PM  
Problems for the girl continued though, when social workers decided to have the girl stay temporarily with a Catholic Priest.

Offtopic, can we have linked stories that don't direct us to popup hell ? I'd would rather see some of the other stories get headlines here , as long as the site doesn't crash my browser like some sites do here.
 
2002-04-12 12:36:08 PM  
you know i keep wondering why these really smart rich people can't figure out how to do this sort of thing right. well not that having a slave can be right in any way, however if you're going to have one you have to keep them in equal living conditions. you can't dump them in the garage and hope you don't get caught. in a 660k house there's got to be room for another person somewhere. at least she wasn't physically abused. well that we are aware of. the wealthy, even more so than most, should understand how important outward appearances are.
 
2002-04-12 12:37:31 PM  
....Article....title...gave...headache...must.....get.....tylenol....
 
2002-04-12 12:38:28 PM  
well i'm wondering how she got from 8 years old to 12 years old in 18 months. i keep trying to do the math.
 
2002-04-12 12:39:04 PM  
"you know i keep wondering why these really smart rich people can't figure out how to do this sort of thing right."

Oh yeah, because you hear about this kinda stuff in the news all the time. Rich bastards!
 
2002-04-12 12:40:48 PM  
We should handcuff them and drop them off at NOW hq
 
2002-04-12 12:42:54 PM  
What the FARK is the matter with these people? if you have five children of your own you would think that you would have a little sympathy for another child, imagining your children in her place. The GARAGE? I love the excuse that they had no room in their 600,000 dollar house for one little 12 year old girl. Yeesh. I wonder what the kids think when they watch Cinderella? They have an inside perspective. Ugh!

but then, with things like the caste system in india and europe for centuries, I guess mentalities like this are not totally surprising. they probably did think they were doing her a favor. Sad. sick and Wrong, man. Sick and Wrong.
Kym
 
2002-04-12 12:43:30 PM  
it's not so bad when you get locked in the basement, but when they throw the meat at you, the rats have the advantage of numbers....
 
2002-04-12 12:44:33 PM  
This is happening a lot in England right now, as well. BBCNews always has a story like this. The slave trade seems to be alive and well, if not underground.
 
2002-04-12 12:45:29 PM  
"The 41-year-old Ibrahim, who owns a steel export business and a small hotel, posted $150,000 bond Wednesday and returned to his home."

I'm going to break into his fortress and kill this guy.
See y'all later.
 
2002-04-12 12:46:52 PM  
"you know i keep wondering why these really smart rich people can't figure out how to do this sort of thing right."

How the hell do you think they get rich, by treating everyone FAIRLY? By playing everything above board?
 
2002-04-12 12:46:57 PM  
Damn, Fury- obscure Calvin and Hobbes refference, no?
 
2002-04-12 12:48:08 PM  
the republican dream.
 
2002-04-12 12:48:18 PM  
happy girl We need only look so far as sitcom reruns to find the solution, i.e. The Fresh Prince of BelAir. Keep your underage servants in the pool house, duh.
God forbid someone should try to help impoversished people. Sure, she should have been sent to school. But I don't think there's any law that says you have to buy everyone bicycles. I wonder how much money their nosey neighbors donate to impoverished children and families. I can just see them drooling with racist malice. "Oooh lets see what those dirty Arabs have done now. Nancy, I told you they were up to no good. And they always smell funny. God only knows what they did to her."
 
OBB
2002-04-12 12:48:44 PM  
That family is a bunch of bastards, and their lawyer is a bastard too. The poor little girl couldn't leave because she didn't speak English, and then the lawyer had the gall to say she liked the house so much she didn't want to leave. This article makes me ill.
 
2002-04-12 12:49:17 PM  
This guy should be put in prison. Let our convicts work his ass over for a couple of decades. Fark that greedy sonofabiatch.
 
2002-04-12 12:50:08 PM  
Oh yeah, because you hear about this kinda stuff in the news all the time. Rich bastards!

well actually, i've seen 2 programs on this sort of child abuse in the last month. one of which involved a preacher who had five children and one adopted child. they the parents beat, burned, molested and forced the adopted child to do all of the work and feed the family while telling her she was going to go to hell. also on the news 2 weeks ago they reported on 2 more children,(each from different parents) who were found in small dark feces covered rooms...all i'm saying is if there gonna keep children as slaves they should at least not make them sleep in or live in an area filled with defication. it just doesn't look so good ya know.
 
2002-04-12 12:51:51 PM  
p.s. Orange County, CA can kiss my ass. The perfect balance of white supremacists and strip malls. If Hitler had been a real estate agent, he would have lived in Orange County.
 
2002-04-12 12:53:22 PM  
At least it wasn't the Ramsey household
 
2002-04-12 12:53:50 PM  
"...if there gonna keep children as slaves they should at least not make them sleep in or live in an area filled with defication."

Why the hell would even be acceptable to keep them as slaves in the first place?
 
2002-04-12 12:54:34 PM  
happy girl We need only look so far as sitcom reruns to find the solution, i.e. The Fresh Prince of BelAir. Keep your underage servants in the pool house, duh.
God forbid someone should try to help impoversished people. Sure, she should have been sent to school. But I don't think there's any law that says you have to buy everyone bicycles. I wonder how much money their nosey neighbors donate to impoverished children and families. I can just see them drooling with racist malice. "Oooh lets see what those dirty Arabs have done now. Nancy, I told you they were up to no good. And they always smell funny. God only knows what they did to her."


i think you may be right. i think this has alto to do with a differance of culture.
 
2002-04-12 12:54:36 PM  
Hey wait, you mean this isn't normal.
God damn it, I am always getting the shaft in life
 
2002-04-12 12:55:40 PM  
Sure it SEEMS sad and terrible. But maybe the girl's situation, overall, is 10 times better than the life she would have had at home?

The unclean conditions are kind of lame though.
 
2002-04-12 12:56:17 PM  


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