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2005-06-27 02:58:59 PM
from the promos I've seen. Willy Wonka is going to suck. Gene Wilder Brought personality to the part. Depp seems like he resurrected Eddy Scissorhands.

/liked Scissorhands but not as WWonka.


I'm looking forward to it. There's no way... no friggen WAY, they could have re-done the first and had it comimg even close. Wilder is, was, and always will be the only Wanka I want to see on the screen.

So they take it a completely different direction, make it a completely different movie and now I get to look forward to a darker, more sinister take on what may be the best musical ever created.

Besides, the book actually was darker than the Wilder classic, so this might be more true to the original vision anyway.
 
2005-06-27 03:00:07 PM
theologian

lower expectations, most movies this summer have dropped much further after their opening weekend

the final star wars really is a phenomenon... that movie has made a tremendous amount of money, more so than most other movies (besides Titanic), i guess people are seeing the unbelievable amount of money that movie is making and saying "why not elsewhere?"

/personally can't see why people like episode 3 even with its pathetically bad and annoying editing
//although i did want to see Kingdom of Heaven, and never did, mostly because i'm poor
///will have to wait until the expanded dvd in december
 
2005-06-27 03:00:49 PM
BushPimp,

You are the king of the abbreviated names!
 
2005-06-27 03:00:51 PM
3) Expensive, taking my whole family costs several times more than the DVD will. Wy not buy the DVD and watch it as many times as you like?

Or skip thru the shiatty scenes? Or see the DVD extras? Or watch the bloopers? Or watch the unrated versions which WON'T be seen in ANY theater?

I can't remember the last time I went to a movie.

On the other hand...before you people go all piratey on me, I 'preview' movies downloaded from the internets. IF they are good, I order them from Columbiahouse.com. (Elf, Eutotrip, American History X)

If i think they suck (Walking Tall) then I've just saved myself $15-20 for not buying a piece of shiat movie. The movies I download are about the size of a CD (600-800M) and don't have any additional features like menus, closed captioning (I need it, severely hearing impaired).
 
2005-06-27 03:00:52 PM
I'd rather see Women by Chuck Bukake.

Well played, good sir. Well played.
 
2005-06-27 03:01:04 PM
lixivium

From what I hear, theaters earn like 8 cents from every ticket and have to make most of their money from concessions, does anyone know if that's true?

I had a friend who was a manager at one of the larger theaters here in St. Louis a few years back, and while I can't remember the exact numbers he told me the pure profit for the theater from an $8.50 ticket was a pretty fair percentage. You are correct though, the percentage of profit from concessions was outrageous, especially when compared to what they were pulling from their ticket sales. They also made a mint from the two story arcade as well.

I'm sure the sums vary depending on the region and how the theater company is structured, but as someone else pointed out, there are still a great deal of single or double screen theaters that do quite well for themselves while bringing in less from concessions and lacking the arcade cash cows.
 
2005-06-27 03:02:07 PM
Why not make more movies based on rides at Disneyland?

 
2005-06-27 03:02:50 PM
You_mean_Im_gonna_stay_this_color: Batman Begins - Good ^^^ Herbie: Fully Loaded - Sucks

HERBIE was more movie fun than BATMAN. Came closer to getting my money's worth ...
/not trolling ... Batman is sooooo overrated. The whole last half hour was poop. you got what you came for with the HERBSTER>
 
2005-06-27 03:03:17 PM
Occams_Electric_Razor

hey, better for us film enthusiasts vs. sitting around rude/obnoxious/filthy movie goers

/gotta keep it in context
 
2005-06-27 03:05:35 PM
Twenty years ago average ticket prices were around $3.50, now the average is $6.50.

What planet are you from? Cuz I'd like to go there... average movie price here is about $15!!!!

... with the DVD folks on this one. What the article fails to mention is how DVD sales have skyrocketed over the past 3 or 4 years. Google it if you doubt me.

Saw SW E3 at the multiplex a few weeks ago with the kiddo, and before that, the Incredibles. It's just not worth it anymore... DVDs are way too affordable, and besides, our home theatre system kicks the multiplex's a$$, when you factor in all the crap that comes with going to the cinema.
 
2005-06-27 03:06:36 PM
This is a year over year comparision. Now, while part of the problem is the dreck out there (How many remakes and sequels can they make? Stop it!), another part of the problem was that last year had two political/religious movies (Passion of the Christ and F9/11) that were artificially inflating box office totals last year.
 
2005-06-27 03:06:58 PM
This past weekend I drove four hours to see my girlfriend. Now, after sitting that long would I rather A) Sit another 2 hours to see some lame-ass movie with her, or B) Go out and have a goodtime with her doing karaoke, drinking, and making out with her?

Yeah, B.

/movies suck
//except drive-ins
///No drive-ins around here :(
 
2005-06-27 03:09:16 PM
edcro
They're even remaking good movies -- did they really think they were going to improve on the original Psycho or Charlie and the Chocolate Factory?

Yes, they thought they could improve the original Psycho. They were wrong.
There was no "original" Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. The previous movie was called Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory, and was a musical based on the book Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. In the book, the only singing characters were the Oompa Loompas, and the plan is to remain true to that in the new movie, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Gene Wilder played a wonderful Willy Wonka, but was not true to the Wonka character in the book. I love Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, and have nothing but the best of hopes for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory when it is released next month(IMAX!).

Did we need yet another Batman movie?
Yes, the franchise desperately needed redemption after the last two films. Besides, I imagine there is enough Batman story material to make literally hundreds of films.

Another zombie flick?
Horror is a staple genre, if it wasn't a zombie, it'd be a monster or a ghost.

Did Bewitched really need to be recycled as a movie?
No.
 
2005-06-27 03:09:53 PM
Go out and have a goodtime with her doing karaoke, drinking, and making out with her?

Is she a little bit country, and you're a little bit rock-n-roll?
 
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2005-06-27 03:10:23 PM
BushPimp: from the promos I've seen. Willy Wonka is going to suck.


From the promos I saw, it's gonna be awesome.

then again, I wouldn't use things like "Gene Wilder..." as an argument aagainst a movie without Gene Wilder innit.
 
2005-06-27 03:10:39 PM
CruJones

Haven't heard a cell phone go off in a theatre since the re release of the trilogy. Someone's phone went off and people started yelling. The person didn't dare talk.

/when geeks attack
//Philadelphia suburbs
 
2005-06-27 03:12:12 PM
Movie theaters are the only places I can sit down and have a nice long talk on the phone.
 
2005-06-27 03:12:59 PM
Another option that reduces the box office totals is the rise in popularity of the second-run theaters that let you drink beer. I've got one of those just a few blocks from my house, and I can see a movie for $3 and buy a pitcher of microbrew and some pizza for $10. The movies are about a month old, and the sound isn't as good, but who cares? You pay $3 and the atmosphere is much more communal, so you don't really care if some jackass in the theater yells something in the middle of the movie.

Every movie that comes out now will eventually appear at one of these places (there are a half-dozen or so here in Portland, OR), so I just wait a few months and see the movies while drinking beer. Ideal situation.
 
2005-06-27 03:13:13 PM
wow The Rum Diary is in prodction?! I thought I was the only person on earth who read that book. That was a helluva story
 
2005-06-27 03:13:27 PM
Did Bewitched really need to be recycled as a movie?
No.


God, Darrin had to have been the most moronic TV character ever produced. He could be standing on the surface of Mars just by letting his wife twitch her nose, but HE'D rather be a damn ad executive.

WTF? At least Tony Nelson was a friggen astronaut. Who'd choose a life in a cubical over exploring the damn multiverse?
 
2005-06-27 03:13:31 PM
"2005-06-27 02:51:52 PM moltov


The G-rated flick, starring R-rated tabloid fixture Lindsay Lohan, averaged just $3,621 at 3,521 sties and has managed to gross $17.7 million since pulling into theaters Wednesday. The tally is about half of Lohan's best opening, last year's Mean Girls, which debuted with $24.4 million.

Tell me if i'm missing something, but 17.7 isn't even close to being 'half' of 24.4.

17.7 x 2 = 35.4."

Herbie opened on a Wednesday. The $17.7 million includes $5 million from Wednesday and Thursday. On the weekend (Fri-Sat-Sun) itself, it only made $12.7 million, which is about half of $24.4 million.
 
2005-06-27 03:17:12 PM
ROWAN13

i've never paid over $5.50 since 2000

/includes great quality theatre experience, nothing bad about it, just the movies
 
2005-06-27 03:18:50 PM
The Pink Panther is going to be so bad. I want to like Steve Martin so much. He was great in the jerk and one or two other things but this is going to be so awful.
 
2005-06-27 03:19:18 PM
batman sucked fyi
 
2005-06-27 03:20:23 PM
rodeofrog: The Necronomicon

Done
 
2005-06-27 03:21:20 PM
West_Side_Charlie,

Instead of asking about films that are better than the books, what about remakes that were better than the originals?


The new Punisher is about a BILLION times better (this one is actually GOOD) than the one that was released straight to video (without ever being seen in theaters) with Dolph Lundgren in 1987. Marvel Comics really shiat the bed on that one.
 
2005-06-27 03:23:42 PM
I blame liquor control laws.

At Home: DVD + Booze + Friends = Fun
At Theater: Ticket + Booze in Thermos + Friends = trouble with usher

Fairly simple choice.
 
2005-06-27 03:24:37 PM
my planet

Or, actually, the National Association of Theater Owners.

From their site, actual admissions (number of tickets)

Year Admissions
(in billions)
2004 1.53
2003 1.57
2002 1.63
2001 1.49
2000 1.42
1999 1.47
1998 1.48
1997 1.39
1996 1.34
1995 1.26
1994 1.29
1993 1.24
1992 1.17
1991 1.14
1990 1.19
1989 1.26
1988 1.08
1987 1.09
 
2005-06-27 03:25:38 PM
I fully expect "Dukes of Hazzard" to pull hollywood back from the brink of bankruptcy.

Also, Nazi propaganda films were better than most of the stuff hollywood has been making for years.

/there. It's godwined
 
2005-06-27 03:26:54 PM
The new Punisher is about a BILLION times better (this one is actually GOOD) than the one that was released straight to video (without ever being seen in theaters) with Dolph Lundgren in 1987. Marvel Comics really shiat the bed on that one.

Hey, I just saw that yesterday on DVD. It was better than I thought, though I sickened that they gave Frank Castle a sense of humor (well, beyond the dark one that allows him to torture innocent mobsters).

Seen The Rock's "Walking Tall" yet? That one might surprise you...
 
2005-06-27 03:28:52 PM
NineInchNader:

At least Tony Nelson was a friggen astronaut. Who'd choose a life in a cubical over exploring the damn multiverse?

Great, you just gave them the idea to make a I Dream of Genie movie. Thanks.

/I guess it depends who wears the outfit

//ok, sign me up
 
2005-06-27 03:30:12 PM
For all those that complain about the price of food and drinks and the movie, two things:

1) If you can't go a couple of hours without shoving something in your face, you may have a problem

2) It isn't that hard to bring your own food and drink into the theater, especially if you have a wife/girlfriend with a nice, big purse


Don't eat, eat before you go, bring something with you...problem solved
 
2005-06-27 03:31:20 PM
Batman was good, it was just too soon to restart the whole damned thing again. It's only been 7 years.
 
2005-06-27 03:32:53 PM
Darrin had to have been the most moronic TV character ever produced. He could be standing on the surface of Mars just by letting his wife twitch her nose, but HE'D rather be a damn ad executive.

I always got the feeling that, back then, ad executive must've meant lots and lots of superhot punani. Of course, if I had been married to Samantha, I don't know that I'd have left the house much.
 
2005-06-27 03:34:02 PM
Can you name a movie that was better than the book it was based on?

The Princess Bride
Shawshank Redemption
Lord of the Rings Trilogy
 
2005-06-27 03:34:24 PM
At least Tony Nelson was a friggen astronaut. Who'd choose a life in a cubical over exploring the damn multiverse?

Great, you just gave them the idea to make a I Dream of Genie movie. Thanks.

/I guess it depends who wears the outfit

//ok, sign me up


Dude, no offense, but I think they can find someone better than you.

I'm just sayin'...
 
2005-06-27 03:35:54 PM
Here's the solution to Hollywood losing money...

QUIT PAYING GARBAGE ACTORS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR NOTHING!

Peter Jackson was able to create a masterpiece of a movie trilogy using lesser known actors. He probably spent less money on his entire cast of actors than Spielburg spent on just Tom Cruise (in War of the Worlds.)

I'm sure nobody would care if Angelina Jolie was never cast in another movie again... same with 90% of the rest of the acting "elite." Anyone else sick of Will Farrell? I know I am.

This isn't football people, they don't get better the more they perform. Just look at Orlando Bloom, he is Legolas in every movie he plays. He's had his 15 minutes, now get rid of him. Toby McGuire, he's always going to be Spiderman, so never use him again, etc. etc. etc.

Popular actors does not a good movie make.
 
2005-06-27 03:36:05 PM
rodeofrog

Stop hating man!! I have not seen any movies baserd on a Stephen King BOOK that is better. Even his ABC strait to movie of the week screenplays are pretty crappy. I am not saying the movies based on his books where bad, just not as good as the books. And whomever said The Running Man maovie was better is a complete idiot!
 
2005-06-27 03:36:14 PM
I always got the feeling that, back then, ad executive must've meant lots and lots of superhot punani. Of course, if I had been married to Samantha, I don't know that I'd have left the house much.

There's better punani than witch punani? Maybe genie punani...
 
2005-06-27 03:38:06 PM
armybottom:

Well this is what happens when Hollywood has to take all of its ideas from best-selling books. Here's a question...
Can you name a movie that was better than the book it was based on?

I certainly can't.




Sleepy Hollow
 
2005-06-27 03:38:11 PM
you know what i hate?

all the people who think the charlie and the chocolate factory is a remake of willy wonka and... It's not, it's an adaptation of the book (willy wonka, was just barely based on the book) .. I guess its essentially the same as batman begins in that regard...

//That said it looks freakin awesome.
 
2005-06-27 03:38:40 PM
Read an interview with the widow of Ronald Dahl (author, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory)this weekend. Long story short, Dahl hated the first one and wanted someone else to play Willy. Wonka lite as someone else put it. Dahls widow had a lot more control over this one and is pleased with the way Depp plays Wonka (held up production for 8 years before she released the rights). This one follows the book and Depp is what Dahl envisioned for Wonka.

re: Blade Runner. Electric sheep is brilliant. Have both the original and the directors cut (no commentary, which was added after the fact). Critics be damned, I like the commentary better.

/Sushiathat's what my ex-wife called me. Cold fish.
 
2005-06-27 03:39:54 PM
There's better punani than witch punani? Maybe genie punani...

Brady punani.

That's right. I went there.
 
2005-06-27 03:41:37 PM


"STOP MAKING shiatTY MOVIES AND CHARGING $8.50 TO SEE THEM, ASSHOLE!"
 
2005-06-27 03:42:30 PM
There's better punani than witch punani? Maybe genie punani...

Brady punani.

That's right. I went there.



Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!
 
2005-06-27 03:42:53 PM
Sybarite
For all those that complain about the price of food and drinks and the movie, two things:
1) If you can't go a couple of hours without shoving something in your face, you may have a problem


I spent several summers selling movie concessions. It was pathetic the number of people who HAD to have food and whined about the prices, as if this was something new and I was forcing them to eat. It's called willpower people.

2) It isn't that hard to bring your own food and drink into the theater, especially if you have a wife/girlfriend with a nice, big purse

When my wife and I were dating we smuggled in a box of Thin Mints when we saw Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. It was winter and we both had large coats. We just removed the long packs of cookies and stuffed them in a pocket.

Good times.
 
2005-06-27 03:43:14 PM
Land of the Dead was more of a trip through the haunted house than a suspense filled film. Didn't give a crap about any of the characters, didn't feel any pit of the stomach anxiety about the world full of zombies. Basically didn't do it for me. The best part of the movie was the line by Dennis Hopper when he was warning the other blue blood to "get down". That was true comic timing.

28 days later had me gripping. This had me waiting for the next boogie man to jump from behind the curtain. 28 days later had the dude day dreaming about life with mom and dad interrupted by a duo of disgusting looking zombies crashing through the window. Land of the Dead was schlock with a social comment. I get the zombies are just the popular majority of people living in poverty who are easily distracted from their plight by sky flowers or Michael Jackson trials, take your choice.
 
2005-06-27 03:43:57 PM
Along with TV remakes (Honeymooners, Dukes, etc) don't forget we'll get another half dozen or more comic books turned into movies, plus on the near horizon is a remake of the Poseidon Adventure (I guess Towering Inferno was too hot politically) and a zillion movies based on video games (yawn) and sequels (some based on comic books, others on Disney rides) (MI3, X3, Pirates 2, Jurrasic IV, Superman Returns)

Yup.

Netflix is less than $20 / month, and everyone gets to enjoy something they really like.
 
2005-06-27 03:44:02 PM
salinacj

Stop hating man!! I have not seen any movies baserd on a Stephen King BOOK that is better. Even his ABC strait to movie of the week screenplays are pretty crappy. I am not saying the movies based on his books where bad, just not as good as the books. And whomever said The Running Man maovie was better is a complete idiot!

Are you his number one fan?

I've seen two posts in defense of Mr. King's books, and both have had hideous grammar/spelling. Easy on the exclamations, brother. Make them last.
 
2005-06-27 03:47:06 PM
What really pisses me off is that movies in the last few years are setting records all the time for earnings... Lord Of The Rings, Titanic, Star Wars, etc... but all the movie studios and theatres can do is merge together and complain about the shiatty market?

I mean, Que The fark?

Ticket prices are at an all time high, snacks and food at the theatre are downright unaffordable by anyone, AND the record companies are saying the same exact thing, despite making record-breaking piles of cash on Britney and all the boy bands recently and with all the annoying-as-fark payola going.

I mean, this all couldn't be posturing for an ever bigger pile, could it?

Of course not, how silly.
 
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