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(Some Guy)   North Carolina balks at raising the country's lowest cigarette tax   (wral.com) divider line 170
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2005-06-26 11:24:01 PM  
North Carolina: Too poor to afford not to smoke.
 
2005-06-27 12:28:39 AM  
"A penny is a huge increase when the tax is 5 cents," said Lew Starling, a lobbyist for JR Tobacco

A penny is only a huge increase when you live in North Carolina...any other place, and nobody even cares.
 
2005-06-27 12:29:09 AM  
I blame Bush
/oh wait
 
2005-06-27 12:30:14 AM  
Meh, more people smokin' - more old farts on oxygen tanks - tobacco farmers get rich?

/*yawn*
 
2005-06-27 12:31:53 AM  
"I" "Raised" "the" "North Carolina" "tax for" "cigarettes" -Gorge Bush
 
2005-06-27 12:33:13 AM  
/late edit (Gorge Bush not Gorge) :P
 
2005-06-27 12:33:58 AM  
OMG I SUK AT TYPING DISREGARD ALL COMMENTS EVER
 
2005-06-27 12:36:23 AM  
I pay $21 a carton for camels in NC. I bout shiat when my bro told me they are like 5 bucks a pack in new mexico. They go much higher and it's quittin time.
 
2005-06-27 12:36:36 AM  
Oh come now, we're not nearly as poor as West Virginia...

/trying to divert all the scorn and ridicule somewhere else...
//State motto: "Thank you for smoking!"
///West Virginia: "One big, happy family. Really."
 
2005-06-27 12:36:37 AM  
Even at the Duke Homestead historic site in Durham, where the patriarch of the family for which Duke University is named first grew and processed tobacco, there are few visitors with relatives who can remember working the fields.

/duke sucks
//obligatory
 
2005-06-27 12:37:30 AM  
EL CHEAPO!
 
2005-06-27 12:37:40 AM  
Keeping cigarette taxes low helps NC sell thousands of cartons of cigarettes to out-of-staters. If that price goes up it will cut in on the state's revenue. I'm willing to bet that plenty of folks make road trips to NC to load up on cheap cigarettes and then drive back to wherever cigarette prices are outrageous. Either they smoke them and save some cash, or they sell them and make a nice profit.

In Virginia (which also has a very low cigarette tax) there is a law in the works, or has already been passed, that restricts the a person to buying only 40 cartons of cigarettes at a time. Why any state would want to inhibit someone from contributing easy tax money is beyond me.
 
2005-06-27 12:37:43 AM  
Smoking is bad, therefore smokers lose the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Thank goodness we don't apply the same logic to homosexuals. Oh, wait.

Freedom is freedom.
 
2005-06-27 12:39:08 AM  
Stupid North Carolina hillbillies.
 
2005-06-27 12:40:08 AM  
I pay 8 bucks (Canadian) a pack. Feel free to mock the stupid smoker.

I don't pay for pot though.
 
2005-06-27 12:41:00 AM  
Raise it by $5.00 or 300% what ever is greater.

People that smoke suck and should commit suicide so us non-smokers can enjoy cleaner air.

Seriously...smokers = LOSERS in every sense of the word.

Who the hell would burn something and inhale toxic substances?

In the future they will look back and kids will ask their parents, "Ma, Pa, How did society figure out who the stupid people were?" ...."Well junior they had this thing called cigarettes that they would burn and inhale for a high. It caused cancer and made them die quicker...they were the stupid ones." ..."Wow!!!", said Junior.
 
2005-06-27 12:42:05 AM  
Non smokers pay for most of smoker's health care. The higher the tobacco tax the smaller proportion of money non-smokers have to pay for people who make stupid choices.

Smoke all you want, just don't ask me to foot the bill when you get sick (and you will). Make smokers pay more for health insurance like they do for life insurance. And cut smokers off federal and state aid unless they quit.

Smokers are idiots

So are legislators who cave to tobacco lobbyists
 
2005-06-27 12:42:17 AM  
Shadow Fairy- I'm more inclined to mock the governments that are assraping us when this is the only small pleasure we get out of life...
 
2005-06-27 12:43:23 AM  
You can get a carton of decent smokes down here in Florida for around $12.00
 
2005-06-27 12:45:13 AM  
Here's another fun fact about my home state of North Carolina:

You can buy up to 99 cartons of cigarettes per day without having a distribution license. :)

It's definitely harder to quit smoking here than in other places. Most restaurants have a smoking section, and a pack of Camel Lights costs between $2.85 and $3.15 .
 
2005-06-27 12:45:19 AM  
No, it's SmokeNazis like BiggerBastard who are the true losers.

How old are you?

/ex-smoker
 
2005-06-27 12:45:34 AM  
These retards that cross state lines waste precious gas. We spent $200 billion in Iraq for that gas, PRESERVE IT!
 
2005-06-27 12:46:36 AM  
Next time you see a smoker go up and take their cigarette from them and burn a hole right between the eyes!

LOL, I'd pay to see it!
 
2005-06-27 12:46:41 AM  
5 cents? A penny? Try Michigan's $2.00 a pack tax, a carton of red's costs me 41.39 and 20.00 of that goes right to MI plus another 6% sales tax...

LOL
 
2005-06-27 12:47:20 AM  
Make smokers pay more for health insurance like they do for life insurance.

Umm, they have been doing this for quite a while now.
 
2005-06-27 12:48:41 AM  
biggerbastard

Nicotine is more addictive than cocaine. You can choose to fault people for being addicted to nicotine, sure. While you're at it, don't forget fat people. Their fatasses are also responsible for rising health care costs. And also, prostates. I refuse to give up my prostate even though i know 1 out of 16 men develope prostate disease.
 
2005-06-27 12:48:43 AM  
 
2005-06-27 12:48:51 AM  
Let me take this time to point out why North Carolina was founded.
 
2005-06-27 12:50:21 AM  
Oh radarlove, Thank you. I was hoping that somebody out there would understand.

In Canada, most of the profits from lottories go into healthcare, so I contribute quite a lot.
 
2005-06-27 12:50:49 AM  
delsydsoftware-

Wow...you can't smoke indoors anywhere in my town, and indeed in a decent portion of my entire state. And you have to be at least 20 feet away from the door of any buisness. And smokes are $4-$5 a pack.

The other day I was sitting on the picnic table in front of my apartment smoking. A bicyclist (you know the kind...lycra shorts and all) rode up, stopped in front of me, got off his bike, pulled his water bottle out and doused my cigarette.

"You'll thank me later," he said.

So I stood up, walked over to his bike, pulled out my Zippo, and lit his bicycle seat on fire.

"Thanks," I replied, and walked away. Now we're even.

/foam apparently goes up pretty quick
 
2005-06-27 12:51:32 AM  
I'm currently blowing a big lungful of rich Camel smoke in your sorry-ass self-righteous direction, BiggerBastard. Hope it gets there.
 
2005-06-27 12:53:07 AM  
Quote:
2005-06-27 12:48:41 AM robot monkey


biggerbastard

Nicotine is more addictive than cocaine. You can choose to fault people for being addicted to nicotine, sure. While you're at it, don't forget fat people. Their fatasses are also responsible for rising health care costs. And also, prostates. I refuse to give up my prostate even though i know 1 out of 16 men develope prostate disease


Just the government failing to protect the stupid and allowing tobacco sales in the first place. Yes, I agree fat people are also in the same boat and should be arrested and hung in jail and starved to their ideal weight and given a intensive nutritional schooling with exam with 96% pass requirement before being let back out on the street. Also while we are at it we should issue everyone a Fast Food ID Card that allows only so many meals at fast food outlets and install stiff penalties for violating the limit.

Morgan Spurlock would be with me on that one.
 
2005-06-27 12:54:26 AM  
Just a thought...

Have they considered ADDING extra carcinogens to cigarettes? ...maybe lace them with cyanide? I mean, if people choose to kill themselves, let them do it, only do it quickly so as not to harm the health of others who choose NOT to kill themselves. It'll save a lot of health care bills as well.

"The gene pool could use a little chlorine"
 
2005-06-27 12:54:34 AM  
Dude, BiggerBastard, you really need to go back to trolling school...you're seriously not the calibre we've come to expect here on Fark.
 
2005-06-27 12:54:47 AM  
I support higher cigarette taxes for one reason: if they go up, my mom will quit. I have no sympathy for people who make money from tobacco.
 
2005-06-27 12:55:58 AM  
2005-06-27 12:51:32 AM BunkoSquad
I'm currently blowing a big lungful of rich Camel smoke in your sorry-ass self-righteous direction, BiggerBastard. Hope it gets there.


You'll probably die before it reaches me. R.I.P.
 
2005-06-27 12:56:17 AM  
Brratt- But I WANT to kill you. See, that's the thing that people don't get. It's not that we don't care what our secondhand smoke does to your poor pink lungs. We REALLY care...just not in the way you want us to.
 
2005-06-27 12:56:49 AM  
lol smoking? gimme a break, it's not junior high anymore farkers, get a grown man habit like coffee or cocaine

/losers
 
2005-06-27 12:57:32 AM  
Health care has been covered... The truth of the matter, well in Michigan anyways is that very little of the $2.00 goes to any sort of health fund... Most of it goes to the general fund, a few cents to 'indigent people in Wayne county'..

I don't mind the $2.00 tax, I'll never be told what I should and shouldn't do when something is legal, however, I do believe 50% should go to all state health provided services and the other half to prevention and cessation programs.

But then again, this is a Government we are talking about, and not a common sense factory...

Food for thought:

Michigan's excise tax per pack of cigarettes: $2.000
Michigan's excise tax collection for the fiscal year ending June 2003: $828,678,000

Number of six-packs of beer that must be sold in Michigan to produce the same state excise tax revenue generated by one carton of cigarettes: 66.7
Number of bottles of wine that must be sold in Michigan to produce the same state excise tax revenue generated by one carton of cigarettes: 74.2

$1,257,024,000 has been paid to Michigan through Fiscal Year 2003 since the Master Settlement Agreement was signed on November 23, 1998.


Where's the money Jenny?
 
2005-06-27 12:57:51 AM  
radarlove...exactly my point

lace cigs w/cyanide, and problem solved
 
2005-06-27 12:57:53 AM  
"Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone."

Bigger Bastard I love how you live on the other side of the country as me, we've never met, yet somehow you feel its OK to dictate how I live my life, even though it will never affect yours.
 
2005-06-27 12:57:55 AM  
Meh... w/e tax is tax, i dont like cigarettes, and i'd rather not be around it and i like the whole things that keep it away from everyone, but im not so militant as to want them to die or go broke.

/relative smokes
//loves to smoke... something else. :\
 
2005-06-27 12:58:34 AM  
Speaking of cigarettes, where is the outrage over the price of nicotine gum and patches? The patch costs about $60 a week for the whole 7 week program. All of the patch and gum programs gradually ween you off of nicotine, when the same results could be accomplished in 1-2 weeks.
 
2005-06-27 12:58:37 AM  
UglyPerson
OMG I SUK AT TYPING DISREGARD ALL COMMENTS EVER

You need to relax. Maybe take a vacation. May I suggest here?

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2005-06-27 12:59:25 AM  
2005-06-27 12:54:34 AM radarlove

Dude, BiggerBastard, you really need to go back to trolling school...you're seriously not the calibre we've come to expect here on Fark.


Sorry to disappoint you on this one Radarlove, I'm not usually this bad but I hate smoking with a murderous passion. The logic of smoking and smokers, corporations and government really piss me off to genocidial levels. One day it will be abolished.
 
2005-06-27 12:59:57 AM  
BiggerBastard: You'll probably die before it reaches me. R.I.P.

Nah. I plan on hanging in there long enough to see smoking rates fall enough that the government has to tax the holy hell out of something you like. And then I'm going to cleverly use bold text and large images to mock your frustration on the Internet.
 
2005-06-27 01:01:06 AM  
I used to work in the restaurant biz. A girl I worked with died of lung cancer at the "ripe" old age of 39. The cause? lung cancer...she didn't smoke, but her customers did. She left behind 2 children, one less than a year old who will never have memories of her mother.

Anyone who feels it's okay to force others to breathe their toxic air because they feel they have the right to kill themselves (as well as others) can go straight to hell.
 
2005-06-27 01:03:27 AM  
BiggerBastard-

Okay, well if it really pisses you off that much then why are you sitting here TALKING about it instead of going out there and DOING something about it? I'm not talking about marching in some namby-pamby anti-smoking rally or any shiat like that, either. If smokers truly make you that pissed off, get a knife, go outside, and stab the first smoker you see. It's late, and if you do it somewhere dark you probably won't even get caught. And there will be one less smoker in the world.

I'm completely serious about this. Quit talking about it and DO IT already! shiat or get off the pot!
 
2005-06-27 01:03:36 AM  
We need to start keeping tabs on these smokers. I dont feel safe knowing they can travel freely.
 
2005-06-27 01:04:20 AM  
BiggerBastard:

Hate away, I'll be outside smoking if you need me...
 
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