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(National Review)   When the Seneate's 2nd ranking Democrat compares American soliders of Nazism the Washington Post burys it on page 6; when a White House aide calls liberals wimps, it goes on page 1; when submitter's outrage affects spelling, it gets greenlit   (corner.nationalreview.com) divider line 704
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2005-06-24 05:05:42 PM
The difference is that Rove spoke the truth and Durbin was just spouting BS.

If only McCarthy said "No" and kept ranting after Welch asked if he had no shame, he could've become the next President...
 
2005-06-24 05:05:56 PM
Yeah - that's the ticket - it's not REALLY a war. That's a good one - and other obligations - what a hoot!

I was being sarcastic.

/obvious

You are still sick individual for criticizing someone for not enlisting now. At least I plan on it.

Enjoy your desk job.
 
2005-06-24 05:06:55 PM
So, for the record, you don't believe the contents of the memos to be true? In 2002, facts were not being fixed around the policy?

I think diplomatic language dosen't translate into vulgate english very well.

Just my .02 cents.
 
2005-06-24 05:07:09 PM
Taunches, that is exactly what the Democrats were doing. Great picture!
 
2005-06-24 05:07:22 PM
All you Libs are right! We should just be shooting all these farkers on the battle field then we wouldn't need GitMo and have to worry about treating these terrorist (NOT POW's)BETTER that any other country in the world.
 
2005-06-24 05:07:42 PM
When we step on the rights of prisoners, don't be surprised when others treat our prisoners as bad or worse.

/Geneva Conventions were made for a reason.
 
2005-06-24 05:07:50 PM
Yeah - that's the ticket - it's not REALLY a war. That's a good one - and other obligations - what a hoot!

I was being sarcastic.

/obvious

You are still sick individual for criticizing someone for not enlisting now. At least I plan on it.

Enjoy your desk job.
============

Ah yeah - sarcastic - may be i can do that too sometime.

Enjoy your desk life
 
2005-06-24 05:08:16 PM
2005-06-24 11:06:05 AM Dancin_In_Anson [TotalFark]

I will say this again. The US is in no way, shape or form even close to being anything like Pol Pot's killing fields in Cambodia, Stalin's forced labor/death camps in Siberia, Hiltlers death machine in Europe or even FDR's detention camps in the US. Not even close. There is no comparison whatsoever. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

And any attempt to make any comparison is delusional in it's conception.

But I do understand how ones blind hatred of another can make one delusional.


And I will say this again:

Any attempt to justify torture of suspects, even by saying "it's nowhere nearly as bad as what Pol Pot, Hitler, or Stalin did", is delusional in its conception.
 
2005-06-24 05:08:53 PM
...don't be surprised when others treat our prisoners as bad or worse.

You mean like when they chop their heads off and send tapes to all the major media outlets? Stuff like that?
 
2005-06-24 05:09:11 PM
Weaver95

Please be patient with me. Is that a "no"?
 
2005-06-24 05:09:16 PM
 
2005-06-24 05:09:17 PM
Ya, and we should just take lefty word at face value.

So therefore we should automatically disbelieve anything a liberal says?

If there's a psychiatrist in the house, I'd like to find out what the clinical definition is of Bob's problem.
 
2005-06-24 05:09:48 PM
the instant you copy something automatically makes it untrue
True. Blair handed out multiple copies of the memo during the buildup to the war, and all of his advisors were like, "What are these? How can we trust them?" And Blair said "I printed them off oh my computer" and his advisors were like "We need to see the original!" and Blair was like "You mean the first copy I printed?" and they were like "No, that's a copy" and he was all like "But it's printed directly from my computer!" and they were all like "But it's still a copy" and so they all gathered around his computer to read the memo and they were all like "Did you type this yourself?" and he was all "I actually cut and pasted from many other documents" and they were like "so it's a copy, then" and he was all like "I guess" so they didn't believe it at went ahead with the invasion of Iraq.
 
2005-06-24 05:10:24 PM
2005-06-24 05:07:22 PM 3boys
All you Libs are right! We should just be shooting all these farkers on the battle field then we wouldn't need GitMo and have to worry about treating these terrorist (NOT POW's)BETTER that any other country in the world.

Where can I get my pair of Magical Terrorist Detecting Glasses?
 
2005-06-24 05:10:46 PM
You call that news? Come on, aren't there any missing white women today? When does the next "trial of the century" start? What did Micheal Jackson have for breakfast? These are the stories we Amercans care about...

/sad, but true
 
2005-06-24 05:11:06 PM
DiscoInferiorityComplex:

Not true. Stop listening to Limbaugh. The source gave the original to the reporter, who made a copy, then returned the original.


Ya, and we should just take lefty word at face value. Sure. Oh, look, a copy of a copy of copy of a document that implicates Donna Brazile in the JFK assasination!32121111 OMFG It must be true because I say it is!

You guys are tools.


No, you shouldn't take a lefties word for it....try getting off the couch and researching it yourselves, try to get more sources than fauxnews and drudge though.

...god forbid you learn something.
 
2005-06-24 05:11:28 PM
Weaver95: Who is the delusional one here?

You.

Next question please.


Nice sidestep. You been taking country dance lessons again?
 
2005-06-24 05:11:53 PM
CrazyBob

Did you read what Durbin said? pontechango even posted it in this thread for anyone too lazy to go find it.

He said that, if you had read about the tortures described by the FBI, you would think they had been done by these other atrocious groups. He held them up as pictures of ANTI-Americanism and said he was upset that we had done such things.

But read whatever you want to. Don't think, just stick your head in the sand - keep listening to Mr. Rove. He's a good person.
 
2005-06-24 05:11:54 PM
sprlpgcn: So therefore we should automatically disbelieve anything a liberal says?

Pretty much. I am sure liberals have much to offer when it comes to quiche recipes and whatnot, but when it comes to matters of importance, they just fabricate stuff to fit their warped view of the world.
 
2005-06-24 05:12:02 PM
THEY WEREN'T COPIED...THEY WERE SUPPOSIVELY TYPED BASED ON THE ORIGINAL (for the umpteened time :-)

"Upon receipt of the document in question in September 2004, Smith alleged that a Telegraph desk secretary typed it in old fashioned typewriter and then Telegraph 'destroyed' their copies of the original to frustrate any future police investigation of the leak."
 
2005-06-24 05:12:37 PM
Weaver95:

You mean like when they chop their heads off and send tapes to all the major media outlets? Stuff like that?



"They did bad stuff first so it's okay."
 
2005-06-24 05:12:50 PM
You know what would make me renew my TotalFark subscription?

Easy, shareable ignore lists with which we could filter the crazy lunatics out and leave the enjoyable commentary in, naturally also including differing viewpoints, but excluding the frothing maniacs who are really starting to get tiresome.
 
2005-06-24 05:12:53 PM
Where can I get my pair of Magical Terrorist Detecting Glasses?

When you join the Republican Party, of course!

And DiscoInferiorityComplex wins.
 
2005-06-24 05:13:04 PM
helix400

I apologize if I went off half-cocked. I am a little riled up.

It just sickens me that people always want to focus on pissant little things that reinforce their little delusions of victimization (liberal media, conservative media, red state, blue state, etc...) rather than actual issues.

The Washington Post is, in my opinion, not fit to be a dishrag. I could care less of they printed a ringing endorsement for Kim Jong Il on the front page, seeing that I just don't care. This in turn, makes me question the newsworthiness of such an issue, and makes me irate that, of all the things that happened in the U.S. today, this is somehow important.

Bring me news, not trite little opinion pieces disguised as important issues.
 
2005-06-24 05:13:15 PM
Please be patient with me. Is that a "no"?

You asked what I thought, that's what I think. Diplomatic language is different from straight up, normal direct conversation. Assuming you can understand that (and I mean really understand all the implications), then the memos start making sense. Nobody with more than half a brain takes anything a politican puts down on paper at face value no matter which side of the pond they're sitting on at the moment.
 
2005-06-24 05:14:18 PM
CrazyBob
but when it comes to matters of importance, they just fabricate stuff to fit their warped view of the world.

Yeah, those goddam liberals and their WMD and 9/11 connection lies about Iraq.
 
2005-06-24 05:14:54 PM
Everyone hates liberals!

"As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality."

-George Washington
 
2005-06-24 05:14:57 PM
I am sure liberals have much to offer when it comes to quiche recipes and whatnot, but when it comes to matters of importance, they just fabricate stuff to fit their warped view of the world.

Nevermind, I got it now. Projection. Now the question is, what sort of meds can clear this problem up?
 
2005-06-24 05:15:06 PM
Weaver95
...don't be surprised when others treat our prisoners as bad or worse.

You mean like when they chop their heads off and send tapes to all the major media outlets? Stuff like that?


Wouldn't it be great if we did that? I mean, beside the obvious moral implications. What woudl AL Jazeera think? How about the average Muslim? Too bad that would be wrong. Wish the Islamic world would get that idea (that its wrong).
 
2005-06-24 05:15:16 PM
It appears that the headline could be funny and even arguably insightful, but got botched up somewhere along the line? I guess these things are impossible to fix once green lit?
 
2005-06-24 05:15:42 PM
CNN, MSNBC, and FOX are all showing the industrial fire in St. Louis.

It seems like the cable news stations are equally useless in terms of meaningful information.

faux news

that is sooo 2002
 
2005-06-24 05:16:06 PM
atlanta_ufo:

THEY WEREN'T COPIED...THEY WERE SUPPOSIVELY TYPED BASED ON THE ORIGINAL (for the umpteened time :-)

"Upon receipt of the document in question in September 2004, Smith alleged that a Telegraph desk secretary typed it in old fashioned typewriter and then Telegraph 'destroyed' their copies of the original to frustrate any future police investigation of the leak."


And people that accept that at face value have an amazingly low standard of proof.
 
2005-06-24 05:16:29 PM
Everyone hates liberals!

Except for the fact that you're ignoring the difference between 'classical liberal' and the mutation that evolved during the late 60's.
 
2005-06-24 05:16:30 PM
George Washington

Yeah, but Washington got his ass kicked by savage Indians and had to rely on the French, the French, to bail him out against the British! Just another liberal pansy!
 
2005-06-24 05:16:38 PM
elchip:

Any attempt to justify torture of suspects, even by saying "it's nowhere nearly as bad as what Pol Pot, Hitler, or Stalin did", is delusional in its conception.

 
2005-06-24 05:16:42 PM
Detainees are being detained for 2 primary reasons: Because they pose a threat to the US and its allies and because they might have information which can help the US and its allies.

The detainees might not want to give up their information. We've probably already tried asking them...Sometimes the extraction of information is necessary, and if the person who has the information doesn't readily give it up, then certain actions should be taken to get it. If it can help the cause...
 
2005-06-24 05:17:07 PM
UncleBuck4U:

Everyone hates liberals!

"As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality."

-George Washington


Back then, 'liberal' meant you were good to your slaves. Today, it means that you ate paint chips as a child.
 
2005-06-24 05:17:09 PM
Is there such a thing as a Liberal Republican? How about a Conservative Democrat? Radical Libertarian?

I for one wish all the schoolground namecalling would stop, and attention paid to problems that actually matter.

/Whatever sells the papers, i guess.
 
2005-06-24 05:17:18 PM
And people that accept that at face value have an amazingly low standard of proof.

Hey, lay off the Christians! This is a political thread!
 
2005-06-24 05:17:26 PM
Haizum

That is soooooooo 2005-06-24 04:55:16 PM
 
2005-06-24 05:17:40 PM
And people that accept that at face value have an amazingly low standard of proof.

meh. welcome to politics.
 
2005-06-24 05:18:20 PM
I will say this again. The US is in no way, shape or form even close to being anything like Pol Pot's killing fields in Cambodia, Stalin's forced labor/death camps in Siberia, Hiltlers death machine in Europe or even FDR's detention camps in the US. Not even close. There is no comparison whatsoever. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

You can say it a thousand times and it would still be irrelevant. In this rationale your basically saying that people can invade, kill, torture anyone they want and it will be no problem as long as you don't go as far as hitler.

I guess that makes the administration farkin' angels then.

Oh, and as far as this memo goes.....can just ONE of you neo-cons show me where Blair, or anyone else in the UK denied it's authenticity? Hell even Mclellan evaded the question.
 
2005-06-24 05:18:21 PM
And people that accept that at face value have an amazingly low standard of proof.

Remember, kids: TRUST NO ONE.

(Unless it's Republican talking points, which you can trust implicitly and wholeheartedly. This message brought to you by GOPINGSOC, Helping To Electrify Britain Since 2001 By The Sheer Power Of Orwell's Rotating Corpse.)
 
2005-06-24 05:18:59 PM
As offensive as what Rove said is, the submitter asshat calling Rove "a White House aide" is at least 800 times moreso.
 
2005-06-24 05:19:05 PM
Weaver95:

Where are you getting this notion of "diplomatic language"?

-It was a document containing meeting minutes transcribed during the British Prime Minister's meeting on July 23, 2002.

It was not a "diplomatic document". I will give you the benefit of the doubt here, perhaps you have not diligently done your research.
 
2005-06-24 05:19:15 PM
Back then, 'liberal' meant you were good to your slaves. Today, it means that you ate paint chips as a child.


You obviously have no knowledge of American history or of the values our founding fathers shared!

You must be one of them terrists...
 
2005-06-24 05:19:37 PM
2005-06-24 05:16:06 PM CrazyBob

"Upon receipt of the document in question in September 2004, Smith alleged that a Telegraph desk secretary typed it in old fashioned typewriter and then Telegraph 'destroyed' their copies of the original to frustrate any future police investigation of the leak."

And people that accept that at face value have an amazingly low standard of proof.


I guess that's why the British government all but confirmed it and the Bush administration has been skirting the issue.
 
2005-06-24 05:19:41 PM
Canabian:

Oh, and as far as this memo goes.....can just ONE of you neo-cons show me where Blair, or anyone else in the UK denied it's authenticity? Hell even Mclellan evaded the question.

I also have yet to hear any high-placed officials deny the authenticity of any of the Harry Potter books!!!!!!111
 
2005-06-24 05:20:27 PM
Back then, 'liberal' meant you were good to your slaves.

Well..no. not at all. Just read up on your John Locke. He explains it better than I could.
 
2005-06-24 05:20:51 PM
I love the mindset of the people who condone this garbage. "But...but but we aren't as bad as [insert historical despot]." Hey, I guess we could get away with killing 5 million muslims because it wouldn't be as bad as what Hitler did to the Jews. Or we could maybe only cut off their hands and feet while taking photos. At least we wouldn't be beheading them on video right?

You can't continue to claim the moral high ground while using relativism to justify torturing another human being. "Hey, at least we're not as bad as them" is a piss poor excuse for any action. Unfortunately some of you see that as a sign of solid leadership.
 
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