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2005-06-17 09:40:12 AM
It's an exhibit to see the evolution of the space program.

It also seems to have been intelligently designed... by scientists.

/Where are the monkeys?
 
2005-06-17 09:48:59 AM
Here's an article on the monkeys used in the American Space Program.

Many died, but least we had the intention of bringing them back alive.

Russians used dogs. The first couple they had no intention of bringing back, but hey, they finally figured out they if they tried to keep a dog alive, it might teach them something about keeping people alive. Here's an article listing the Russian Dogs.

And that's my public service of the day.
 
2005-06-17 12:29:46 PM
Does it mention the fake moon landing?


/Conspiracy
 
2005-06-17 12:30:11 PM
Huh? But where is the Spielberg display?
 
2005-06-17 12:30:24 PM
It makes sense that no monkeys would ever be mentioned in the state of Kansass.

Evolution did not occur there.
 
2005-06-17 12:32:02 PM
Ahhhh history is written in pencil...
 
2005-06-17 12:32:21 PM
astro716:

It makes sense that no monkeys would ever be mentioned in the state of Kansass.

Evolution did not occur there.



Yet it's a state run by primates.
 
2005-06-17 12:32:48 PM
I thought they used llamas.........
 
2005-06-17 12:34:24 PM
Because as soon as you mention monkeys in space, it means that sex with dogs will be legal!
 
2005-06-17 12:37:16 PM
Kansas isn't so bad, no wait, thats Kansas City, no wait, thats the Missouri part...
 
2005-06-17 12:37:26 PM
Mojo Jojo unavailable for comment.
 
2005-06-17 12:39:48 PM
Actually this museum is in Hutchinson Kansas (the City where I was born) It is a nationally known space museum. They actually helped restore the Apollo 13 module.
 
2005-06-17 12:40:35 PM
Does it mention the fake moon landing?

It was Mars, and OJ was involved if I remember...
 
2005-06-17 12:41:38 PM
Hey,
Thats a pretty cool museum.
I've been there MANY times!!!
 
2005-06-17 12:42:09 PM
We can all agree that the Soviet space flight failures are truly a thing of the past, now that Russian scientists have found an ancient silver case filled with magic items dated from late Middle Ages.
 
2005-06-17 12:44:50 PM
When asked if they were offended by being left out of the exibit, the monkeys flung feces at the reporters. We'll assume that means `yes'.
 
2005-06-17 12:48:32 PM
There's also a reproduction of a concrete bunker where NASA scientists watched the first manned launch into space complete with a periscope

Why would they be in a bunker? Were they afraid that the rockets would blow up? If so, why not just move a little further away?

That being said, the place sounds pretty cool.

Also, what's a Cosmosphere?

/cue Seinfeld references
 
2005-06-17 12:53:33 PM
Concrete bunkers are standard operating procedure. Rocket fuel is a tad explosive, after all.
 
2005-06-17 12:54:36 PM
A recent photo of continuing efforts to use chimps in space-travel experiments:

 
2005-06-17 12:57:15 PM
I've been there multiple times. Its a very cool place.

/nerd
 
2005-06-17 12:58:42 PM
Clavis wins.
 
2005-06-17 01:00:48 PM
"Never send a monkey to do a man's job."
 
2005-06-17 01:03:56 PM
When I saw "Kansas" and "space museum" in the same headline, I was expecting to see an exhibit with Jesus wearing a rocket jetpack.
 
2005-06-17 01:04:05 PM
The Kansas Cosmosphere is badass. If you're in that area, go see it.
 
2005-06-17 01:04:26 PM
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Nine - dress it up
Eight - dress it up
Seven - dress it up, dress it up
Six
Fa fa fa fa fa five (ooh!)

Hey hey what do you say?
Had me a woman she ran away
Warned me one time, warned me twice
Found me out and it weren't too nice.

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Had me a woman she ran away
Can the chatter, bye-bye dear
Carved me a crimson career.

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Jan jan jammering (dress it up, dress it up)
Yabba-yabba-ding-ding (dress it up)
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We will be fine (we will be fine)
Apollo 9 (Apollo 9)
Even though NASA say
"Way out of line" (out of line)
We will be fine (we will be fine)
Apollo 9 (Apollo 9)
Even though NASA say
"Way out of line" (out of line)

Well whoopsin-a whoopsin (dress it up)
Jan jan jammering (dress it up, dress it up)
Yabba-yabba-ding-ding (dress it up)
Delta hey max nine

(break)

Ten - dress it up
Nine - dress it up
Eight - dress it up
Seven - dress it up, dress it up
Six
Fa fa fa fa fa five

Hey hey what do you say?
Had me a woman she flew away
Climbed onto the nearest star
Miss her lots, but there you are.

Hey hey what do you say?
had me a woman she flew away
I don't worry, things are fine
Way up there in Apollo 9

Well whoopsin-a whoopsin (dress it up)
Jan jan jammering (dress it up, dress it up)
Yabba-yabba-ding-ding (dress it up)
Delta hey max nine

We will be fine (we will be fine)
Apollo 9 (Apollo 9)
Even though NASA say
"Way out of line" (out of line)
We will be fine (we will be fine)
Apollo 9 (Apollo 9)
Even though NASA say
"Way out of line" (out of line)

Well whoopsin-a whoopsin (dress it up)
Jan jan jammering (dress it up, dress it up)
Yabba-yabba-ding-ding (dress it up)
Delta hey max nine

We will be fine (we will be fine)
Apollo 9 (Apollo 9)
Even though NASA say
"Way out of line" (out of line)
We will be fine (we will be fine)
Apollo 9 (Apollo 9)
Even though NASA say
"Way out of line" (out of line)

Hey hey what do you say?
Had me a woman she flew away
Climbed onto the nearest star
Miss her lots, but there you are.

Hey hey what do you say?
Choochalaben dollaley
You can run, you won't get far
A-leyben in your capella.

Hey hey what do you say?
Had me a woman she flew away
Climbed onto the nearest star
Miss her lots, but there you are.

Hey hey what do you say?
Blast off time, I'm please to say
Write a letter, be home soon
Busy lassooing the moon.

Ten
Nine
Eight
Seven
Six
Fa fa fa fa fa five
 
2005-06-17 01:09:21 PM
I didn't know Kansas believed in space.
 
2005-06-17 01:12:01 PM
In Kansas they know that monkey astronauts did not evolve into human astronauts.
 
2005-06-17 01:12:34 PM
Little known fact: Americans were taught that the first Russian dog in space was Laika, who did not survive.

Schoolchildren in the USSR were not told of Laika, and instead were told that Belka, the first living organism to be sent into space and recovered alive, was the first dog sent into space, period.
 
2005-06-17 01:15:06 PM
They have an SR-71 there too, and the Apollo 13 command module. Neato.
 
2005-06-17 01:15:42 PM
Major Tom lives in Kansas

I don't know where Ground Control is located

I went there when I was a tot, maybe I should go back sometime eh?
 
2005-06-17 01:16:33 PM
Actually, for a museum in a town of about 40,000; the Cosmosphere & Space Center has some pretty neat shiat. IMAX theatre, an SR71 hanging in the lobby, the Apollo 13 command module, a Vostok craft, planetarium, and classroom. Not to mention Future Astronaut Training Program, donating lab space for the local community college, and tours geared for both elementary schools and high school chem and physics classes.

Plus, it's budget. If you're stuck in Hutchinson (they annually host the NJCAA basketball tournament), it's an afternoon for $35. That's an IMAX movie, Planetarium show, self-guided museum tour, and a basic chem & physics lesson (the prof makes things go boom) for a family of 3.

\Not all Kansans hate science
\\Also a nerd
\\\Cosmosphere = clear sphere covered with stars with a globe suspended in the middle; used to show the position of earth with respect to fixed stars.
 
2005-06-17 01:20:45 PM
A Museum in Kansas?

Does it also show humans riding dinosaurs in the garden of eden?
 
2005-06-17 01:21:38 PM
Hey I live in Kansas about 30 minutes from this museum. It rocks, but I do believe in evolution, I was educated, and continue to be educated in Kansas. However, the legislature/some school boards don't seem to believe in evolution.
Many of you may believe that Kansas is filled with backwoods hicks and wheat-chewing farmers, you'd be partially correct but the majority are sensible people.Kansas is a great place, it just has a bad rap.

/Go Sunflower State!
//Don't mess with Kansas either!
 
2005-06-17 01:23:44 PM
I gotta drive 4 hours to get to this museum?

screw that man I will wait until they install the stripper poles...
 
2005-06-17 01:26:08 PM
It's a fairly neat museum if you're 12 years old or leading a Boy Scout troop. Otherwise it's just another IMAX movie and a few exhibits. Seems like every air museum has an SR-71 these days. If you're thinking of going wait until the Liberty Bell is on display. If you really have to go to a space museum now, head to Huntsville, AL. Monkey displays AND a Saturn IV.

The Apollo 13 artifacts are impressive...wonder if they were stolen from the government too.
 
2005-06-17 01:27:51 PM
jkmartin: Monkey displays AND a Saturn IV.


I thought that Kansas had decided that, according to the bible and ID, monkeys didn't actually exist.
 
2005-06-17 01:30:20 PM
"Many monkeys died to give us this space program..."
 
2005-06-17 01:35:52 PM
Kansas is one of the leading states in terms or airospace technology and development. Not only has Kansas produced a number of the greatest Astronauts but it also produces much of the software and technology that goes into the satalites and what not.

Kansas isn't as backwards as everythinks.

Kansas is/was actually has many of the first in many
1. Baker, Nancy Landon Kassebaum, 1932, Topeka, the first Kansas woman to serve in the U.S. Senate and the first woman to be elected to a full term in the Senate in her own right

Cline, Nellie, Larned, first woman lawyer to appear before the U.S. Supreme Court

Earhart, Amelia, 1897 - 1937?, Atchison, the first woman granted a pilot's license by the National Aeronautics Association and the first woman to fly solo across the Atlantic Ocean

Finney, Joan, 1931 - 2001, Topeka, first woman to serve as state treasurer and first woman governor of Kansas

Gray, Georgia Neese Clark, 1900 - 1995, Richland, the first woman to serve as U.S. Treasurer

Lewis, Delano, Topeka and Arkansas City, U.S. Department of Justice attorney, director of the Peace Corps in Nigeria and Uganda, first African American president of National Public Radio

Lytle, Lutie, circa 1875 - ?, Topeka, one of the first African American women to be admitted to the practice of law in the United States

McCabe, Edward P., 1850 - 1920, Nicodemus, colonizer and the first African-American to serve as state auditor in Kansas

McCarthy, Kathyrn O'Loughlin, 1894 - 1952, Hays, lawyer and first Kansas woman to serve in the U.S. Congress

Peterson Jr., Frank E., 1932, Topeka, first black brigadier general in the U.S. Marine Corps, NAACP Man of the Year

Salter, Susanna Madora, 1860 - 1961, Argonia, first woman mayor in the nation

Woodard, Lynette, 1959, Wichita, basketball standout at University of Kansas, captain of U.S. women's basketball team that won gold medal, first woman on the Harlem Globetrotters

Tombaugh, Clyde, 1906 - 1997, Burdette, astronomer, discovered the planet Pluto in 1930

and many many more
 
2005-06-17 01:35:56 PM
However, the legislature/some school boards don't seem to believe in evolution.

Everyone believes in evolution, some just can't admit it because they think (incorrectly) that it will unravel the rest of their faith.
 
2005-06-17 01:41:25 PM
I love it when fellow Kansans get defensive about this state. weeners
 
2005-06-17 01:48:31 PM
Kansas, however, does not contain a spellchecker.
 
2005-06-17 01:49:42 PM
jst3p

I agree with you mostly. The problem is that evolution is so poorly defined by most people that no one understands what they are really arguing for or against.

The thing most people disagree with about Evolution is the idea that were once no different from a common animal. I have a hard time with that myself. But I don't believe that "all life started out as micro-organisms" is really what defines evolution, though.

Everyone (should) believe in evolution, but not everyone accepts it as an answer to how humanity came into existence.
 
2005-06-17 01:50:39 PM
stolivar: Nice shout out. We also have Boeing and Raytheon (for now at least).

TheNewJesus: go suck a valomilk. :)

/Don't mess with Kansas either.
 
2005-06-17 01:53:06 PM
Kansas is an extremely crappy state. No doubt about it. Anyone that will tell you otherwise is from the 15% block of Kansas in the northeast corner.

The other 85% is pure crap.
 
2005-06-17 01:54:04 PM
The only good to ever come out of Kansas

 
2005-06-17 02:03:51 PM
I wonder if it emphasizes the fact that Russian failures were miserable failures, while American ones should be referred to as tragedies and disasters. Probably, its pretty standard.
 
2005-06-17 02:07:23 PM
There's a new Kansas?!
 
2005-06-17 02:19:59 PM
Kay, I'm getting a little weary of the fact that everytime there is a headline about Kansas on this site, the thread gets hijacked into talking about the damned evolution thing. I live in Kansas, I went to high school here about two years ago and learned about, gosh darned imagine that...EVOLUTION. No one threw a big stink about it, I didn't have to hear about creationism in my science classes and that's how it is in probably 98% of the schools here in Kansas, laws or otherwise.

The people on this site discuss this matter WAY more then anyone in the actual state of Kansas because for the most part, nothing that the Kansas legislature has done has had any actual effect on any of us for the past 10 years or so.

As for those of us farkers who are taking the headline seriously and thinking that there really are no mention of monkeys in the exhibit (gah, its a joke, people) I've been to the museum and there are PLENTY of references to the monkeys, dogs and other lifeforms that have been used in the space program.

I don't care if you think we're just a bunch of hicks or whatever, the Cosmosphere is a freaking awesome museum and this thread really has nothing to do with the evolution debate or how stupid Kansans are, or any of that crap.

But then again....this IS fark.
 
2005-06-17 02:26:28 PM
The Cosmosphere rocks! The Cosmosphere is an amazing treasure in Kanasas. You walk into the front door and Boom! There is a "REAL" SR-71 Blackbird above you. Then you walk by the REAL Apollo 13 module. Gus Grissom's Liberty Bell module was restored there, and is currently on loan. Next, check out some moon rocks.

One thing that amazed me about the Cosmosphere was the way the facts are presented from several different view points. As an example, there's an interesting story about one Hanna Reitsch. Hanna was one of Hitler's best pilots who happened to be a female. Her story is amazing. You won't find that in many Amercian textbooks.
 
2005-06-17 02:40:16 PM
Clavis

*golf clap*

Nice monkeynaut.
 
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