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2005-06-11 04:13:37 PM  
A Keene man who planned to try to board a flight carrying nothing but a Bible and a copy of the Declaration of Independence was arrested Saturday at Manchester Airport.

If this was all he'd tried to do he'd be on the plane. I suspect he also made an ass of himself in the security area, though, which is why he got arrested.
 
2005-06-11 04:17:53 PM  
why not mention the Bible in the headline also ? What a missed opportunity for double victimhood.
 
2005-06-11 04:23:58 PM  
Maybe he was searching for the "National Treasure"
 
2005-06-11 04:25:00 PM  
His demonstration was part of a larger effort by Libertarians to promote their belief in individual freedom and limited government. Others planned to start a private mail service...

Private mail service, you say? Maybe you could call it "FedEx"
 
2005-06-11 04:26:44 PM  
What's wrong with the mail anyway ? It's one of the few things the government seems to do very well.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2005-06-11 04:27:50 PM  
why not mention the Bible in the headline also ? What a missed opportunity for double victimhood.

The irony is more pointed mentioning only the DoI and Bible-carriers don't get as much sympathy on Fark.

/submitter
 
2005-06-11 04:31:31 PM  
Sounds like The Bible and Declaration of Independence didn't have anything to do with it. He was arrested for being an asshole.

But the article is such a piece of shiat, it's hard to tell exactly what he was trying to prove.
 
2005-06-11 04:39:22 PM  
A Keene man who planned to try to board a flight carrying nothing but a Bible and a copy of the Declaration of Independence was arrested Saturday at Manchester Airport.

Did he not have a ticket & photo ID?
 
2005-06-11 04:41:06 PM  
What the article failed to mention is that when they say "nothing but a Bible and a copy of the Declaration of Independence" they're referring not just to his carry-on luggage but his complete personal attire...

And since when does being a Liberterian mean snubbing airline security regulations?
 
2005-06-11 04:41:12 PM  
NeoMatrix
Maybe he was searching for the "National Treasure"

Hehehe, I just watched that crap-fest last night, and that was my first thought.
 
2005-06-11 04:55:38 PM  
federal government's monopoly on first-class mail delivery

the USPS loses it arse every year, especially now the e-mail is so prevailent. Who would want to compete in a losing market? After all if you want to send things you can alays use UPS and Fed Ex.
 
2005-06-11 05:07:22 PM  
"federal government's monopoly on first-class mail delivery"

Um, *IS* their really a law stopping another company from providing courier of letters for 37 cents each (or less)?

I just figured nobody else (Fed Ex, UPS, etc) did it because its not profitable.
 
2005-06-11 06:34:15 PM  
wait, i'm confused. the article says he just had the DoI and a bible... was he wearing clothes?
If not, that would be his problem.
 
2005-06-11 10:41:35 PM  
dletter:

Um, *IS* their really a law stopping another company from providing courier of letters for 37 cents each (or less)?


it's illegal to put anything in a mailbox except, well...mail - i guess you could put up a second mailbox but there's probably not a lot of demand for that. i don't get a whole lot of stuff in the mail worth having anyhow.

oh, and THIS is why i don't take libertarians seriously - i realize he's the exception, but i enjoy judging books by the cover.
 
2005-06-11 10:46:51 PM  
Others planned to start a private mail service, to call attention to the federal government's monopoly on first-class mail delivery, and sell bottles of liquor, in defiance of state liquor laws.

ah, Drew. Always taking one for the team.
 
2005-06-11 10:47:23 PM  
OMGWTFBBQ!!!eleventyjuan teh lib3rals are getting militant. Handling mail, selling booze, wow, what next, invading a country to sieze their oil?
 
2005-06-11 10:47:37 PM  
[Um, *IS* their really a law stopping another company from providing courier of letters for 37 cents each (or less)?]

Yes, that's why UPS and FedEx don't.
But what company loses business and then raises it's prices?
A dumbass gov't one, that's who.
 
2005-06-11 10:49:55 PM  
To Origin_of_the_Feces:

It's the Libertarians that are doing this, not Liberals.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2005-06-11 10:51:04 PM  
it's illegal to put anything in a mailbox except, well...mail - i guess you could put up a second mailbox but there's probably not a lot of demand for that.

I believe it is legal to put "nonmailable" matter in a mailbox without paying postage. Stuff like bombs and master keys.

But the real issue is not the sanctity of the mailbox. It is illegal to offer low-cost letter delivery in competition with the post office. Otherwise somebody would be undercutting the post office in urban areas and the post office would have to raise rates to serve rural areas.
 
2005-06-11 10:51:11 PM  
Oh, christ, I really dropped the ball there, didn't I. May I have permission to hang my head in shame?
 
2005-06-11 10:51:21 PM  
The Almighty gave children sexual bodies. A child has a God given right to express that sexuality, by self stimulation or with a consenting partner of his or her choice....

Was anyone else disturbed by this quote sitting on the edge of the article?
 
2005-06-11 10:53:58 PM  
fuzzyinthehead: Was anyone else disturbed by this quote sitting on the edge of the article?


Alls I know is that the guy at the edge of the Fark personals is scaring the hell outta me.

/kinda has the "I'll rape the hell outta any man within a 10 ft radius" feel to him.
//sorry to the guy in the pic, but you do look scary.
 
2005-06-11 10:55:11 PM  
...arrested after refusing to comply with security screening procedures and refusing to leave the screening area...

submitter is a headline whore! Headline whore!
 
2005-06-11 10:55:13 PM  
good eye. that's effing hilarity
 
2005-06-11 10:55:14 PM  
From a reasonably local paper, the guy had actually planned to get arrested.

Basically, he was willing to be as big a dick as necessary until he was carried off in cuffs.
 
2005-06-11 10:55:58 PM  
That's pretty bizarre.
Written by a pervert I'll bet.
 
2005-06-11 10:57:58 PM  
Basically, he was willing to be as big a dick as necessary until he was carried off in cuffs.

stealing a page from PETA's playbook....
 
2005-06-11 10:58:30 PM  
hogans

Based on what he already did, and now this, he needs a farking life; just pathetic.
 
2005-06-11 11:00:03 PM  
Others planned to start a private mail service, to call attention to the federal government's monopoly on first-class mail delivery...

That's actually a good idea. Of course, I'm not advocating privatizing Social Security or attacking universal health care. Y'see, the difference is that privatized heathcare and SS will force people to place their health in corporations, while the suggested private mail service will give the option of a government or company service.
 
2005-06-11 11:02:06 PM  
They should have taken his bible away and flushed it down the toilet.
 
2005-06-11 11:02:28 PM  
Wow, what a patriot. He went the full distance to show injustice in the world. What a brave, heroic stand against our oppresive system.

Oh, and this is why Libertarians don't get votes - lots of people agree with Libertarian ideals, but the party is represented by pathetic ploys like this and tin-foil hat owners. What a waste of what could be a good thing.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2005-06-11 11:03:41 PM  
Basically, he was willing to be as big a dick as necessary until he was carried off in cuffs.

He was trying to do what John Gilmore did, but without the legal knowledge and pack of rabid lawyers backing him up.

submitter is a headline whore! Headline whore!

A headline whore with three approved links today.
 
2005-06-11 11:04:03 PM  
MrNeutron, close... they should've taken him over the toilet and flushed his head, while chanting Swirlie! Swirlie!

Seriously, don't give people like that attention and they just go away... for a while.
 
2005-06-11 11:04:25 PM  
What's wrong with the mail anyway ? It's one of the few things the government seems to do very well.

Why does it do so well, you ask?

It is a simple service that is quite measurable in terms of performance. It is simple and apolitical.


Ta-Daaa!
 
2005-06-11 11:04:55 PM  
Others planned to start a private mail service
[image from swarthmore.edu too old to be available]
 
2005-06-11 11:05:24 PM  
probably targeted him for a strip search without evidence of a crime or wrong doing.

do you think they search george bush and sniff his shoes before he gets on airforce one?


aclu.org
 
2005-06-11 11:07:10 PM  
I don't honestly see how using current ID makes anyone safer. As long as someone doesn't have a gun/explosive device, there isn't that much they can do alone. There is no way a flight today would stand for a hijacker. Having ID didn't stop anyone on 9/11.
 
2005-06-11 11:07:54 PM  
Laugh all you want, but this guy is trying to make a point.

This is the same party (Libertarian) that wants Vermont to suceed from the Union because they're against Big Government unnecessarily reaching into everyone's private lives.
 
2005-06-11 11:08:22 PM  
Wow, what a patriot. He went the full distance to show injustice in the world. What a brave, heroic stand against our oppresive system.

yah, because throwing some tea in the Boston Harbor would never result in anything either....
 
2005-06-11 11:09:05 PM  
Laugh all you want, but this guy is trying to make a point.

finally, somebody gets it.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2005-06-11 11:09:10 PM  
do you think they search george bush and sniff his shoes before he gets on airforce one?

They put Ted Kennedy on the no-fly list. But he used his political influence to get off.
 
2005-06-11 11:09:38 PM  
N. S. Radieaux

Recalling from memory, but I believe that most of the benefits of modern mailing occurred during those few times in history that private mail companies got away with operating. Overnight delivery, cheap rates, certified mail, rural delivery, I think all were innovated by private companies.

IIRC, there was a time in the mid-1800s for a few years that private companies could exist for some reason. Oh, and I think the companies showed that there was no need for a monopoly to ensure efficiency - several companies were able to coexist and profit.

I know on the Internets there is a write up on this history, just lazy ...
 
2005-06-11 11:10:00 PM  
"Kanning, an accountant and staunch Libertarian, said last week he hoped his actions would highlight what he considers overly burdensome state intrusion."

"They're not going to be happy I'm doing this,'' said Kanning. ``But people shouldn't have to go through all the hassles we have to go through. They just want to control us."

No comment from the 400 people held up in line behind him I see. Also, why would a libertarian be carrying a bible? Maybe this is simply how he refers to his worn out copy of Atlas Shrugged. As a Christian and an AS fan I believe I speak on behalf of Christians and Objectivists everywhere when I call on all believers and non-believers to give this guy the Martin Luther/Nathaniel Branden treatment.
 
2005-06-11 11:11:33 PM  
"...and sell bottles of liquor, in defiance of state liquor laws." Guess I can join the libertarian party since they support the moonshining platform :-)
 
2005-06-11 11:12:02 PM  
I can laugh all I want? Gee, thanks!

Oh, theeagle. For what security reason would our Commander-in-Chief need to remove his shoes?

And why does this support the ACLU? You see, the reason the ACLU loses moderate's support (like me) is that they defend people who want to get ATTENTION rather than stick up for real and important causes.
 
2005-06-11 11:13:17 PM  
Yes Needleguy, and this man is truly working on that level of importance.

Make a comment like that, and wonder why I laugh?
 
2005-06-11 11:13:49 PM  
Can anyone help a fellow farker out? I know very little about politics... where do libertarians stand? Here's why: I took one of those mapping questionnaires where it maps out where you personally stand on political issues and came out as libertarian. Is it something that involves left views towards social issues yet quite right views when it comes to economic issues? Anyone have any ideas?
 
2005-06-11 11:14:36 PM  
What's wrong with the mail anyway ? It's one of the few things the government seems to do very well.

Under recently-proposed additions to the Patriot Act, the feds can issue a "silent warrant" (no judge required, that whole "checks and balances" thing is such a drag) and read all of your incoming or outgoing USPS mail. Not that they couldn't do so with a private carrier, but it would be a bit harder to legislate vs. a government mail provider who you "voluntarily" send mail through.
 
2005-06-11 11:14:55 PM  
MrNeutron,

They should have taken his bible away and flushed it down the toilet.

That would have been a novel way to repair some damage done by Newsweek in reporting that to the Koran, and then retracting their validity of it.

/sister has a subscrip to newsweek
//read the letter from the editor APOLOGIZING
///still thinks religion is for retards
 
2005-06-11 11:19:02 PM  
axid:

Can anyone help a fellow farker out? I know very little about politics... where do libertarians stand?

As far as I know, Libertarians stand for personal liberty. This mainly boils down to a small government that stays out of people's lives.
 
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