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2005-06-11 10:46:21 AM
I thought Microsoft banned the words "Freedom" and "Democracy" from its U.S. site as well....
 
2005-06-11 10:56:58 AM
I'm heading to Wal-Mart to pick up some cheap, prison labor goods. None of those products have the words 'freedom' or 'democracy' anywhere on them.
 
2005-06-11 11:00:39 AM
In other new the US has banned the words democracy and freedom at Guantanamo.
 
2005-06-11 11:05:58 AM

"I tried to straighten up and fly right, but it was damn near impossible with that sumbiatch Reagan in the White House"
 
2005-06-11 11:06:43 AM
In a truly globalized economy, 1 billion Chinese and Indians will defeat 300 million Americans.
 
2005-06-11 11:08:43 AM
Mr Sparkle
Why yes, the US is operating a pretty shameful operation at Gitmo. I'm not sure what secruity value, if any, is being offered by the prison there. I'm sure much of it is being cancelled out by the negative PR value that it is generating.

But you know what?

There's countries other than the US that commit human rights violations.

Or are you one of those lefties who will ignore non-Western atrocities?
 
2005-06-11 11:12:34 AM
They did it because President Bush's speeches were getting too long... With the words "democracy" and "freedom" blocked, they now are about one sentence long.

And it's still full of mispronounced words and convoluted grammar


Microsoft's new Chinese internet portal has banned the words "democracy" and "freedom"

Shouldn't this have had an obvious tag instead? Probably banned the word Linux too.
 
2005-06-11 11:17:50 AM
I wonder what will happen to Microsoft once Google gets their open-source OS up and running?
 
2005-06-11 11:27:45 AM
could you imagine what a gwb speech would look like?
 
2005-06-11 11:49:15 AM
could you imagine what a gwb speech would look like?

At least Dubya doesn't use Evil Doers" any more.
Karl's many hours of teaching W to say al Qaeda have paid off!
 
2005-06-11 12:03:53 PM
Hmm, how long until Howard Dean suggests the same in the US?
 
2005-06-11 12:14:09 PM
I guess they just call them "french fries"
 
2005-06-11 12:22:09 PM
This from the company that launched a fake grassroots media campaign going on about how it's "freedm to innovate" was being threatened by the gov't expecting it to follow 0.1% of the same rules everybody else is bound by?

Classy.
 
2005-06-11 12:33:31 PM
stpickrell - It is odd that American lefties should complain so much about American human rights violations, isn't it? I bet they do it just to save on postage, the base little bastards that they are...
 
2005-06-11 12:38:44 PM
I hope you "we should be thankful for what we have, so don't complain" people enjoy lighting your chinese-made, freedom- and democracy-hating fireworks on the fourth.

why do military contractors fail to capitalize on this private-sector market? American-made "freedom" fireworks sounds cheesy, but I think it would be extremely lucrative if marketed properly.

/doesn't mind globalization + free trade agreements
//but feeding a dragon is not a good thing
 
2005-06-11 12:46:19 PM
Wert789: Ah yes, Newspeak and Thought Crimes in practical application.


Damn, I was beat to the 1984 reference.

Thank Jeebus I'm in Amurica (eff yeah!) where I'm given just enough rope to hang myself.
 
2005-06-11 01:01:34 PM
Bellybutton: //It'll never happen, to much $$$ involved, they own our debt.

Maybe true, but we own their oil now. Democracy is black stuff in the ground, Freedom is the refining process.
 
2005-06-11 01:17:18 PM
"Typically we Americans want Clean air, clean water and good wages -- but we don't want to pay for things made under those conditions."-Cauchy_riemann_equations


Probably one of the best things I have ever read on this board. I am always amazed by the people biatching and moaning about union members having good pay scales and benefits and not realizing how much more it benefits them to have lower-level workers spreading that cash amongst the economy than for a few top level CEO's who get as much salary as 1000 union workers combined and ship it to some off-shore account to avoid taxes.

BTW, in answer to one of the questions above about the relationship of China and Wal-Mart, I would note that Wal-Mart (if it were a country) would be China's 8th largest trading partner! You know damn well, Wal-Mart isn't selling anything to them, so its all cheap imports from China. All those red staters (and quite a few blue staters) as well rush over to wal-mart to save 5 or 10 dollars not realizing that they are depressing their wages. By outsourcing so many manufacturing jobs to China the amount they "save" is totally illusory as it does not counter the amount they would have made with an economy that supports higher wages. (which is only done by having a demand for workers in manufacturing.)
 
2005-06-11 01:53:28 PM
Microsoft's new Chinese internet portal has banned the words "democracy" and "freedom"

At least they are staying out of the whole "Shark Fin Soup" fiasco. "Democracy" and "Freedom" - what would the Chinese do with that arcane concept, anyway ...

/sarcasm
 
2005-06-11 02:05:41 PM
lawboy87
outsourcing so many manufacturing jobs to China the amount they "save" is totally illusory as it does not counter the amount they would have made with an economy that supports higher wages. (which is only done by having a demand for workers in manufacturing.)

The only argument against that is the cheap products coming back produce new industries, like how every cell phone has a camera in it now, which in turn pushes other sectors of the economy....

BUT Wal-Mart has found a way around that by marking up the low prices so much that they are no different than if they were manufactured here, and the benefit goes to the executives and shareholders.
Online PBS Documentary on WalMart

I still think the best solution is to eliminate the need for forced employement all together. This short story is really a good read:
Manna by Marshal Brain
 
2005-06-11 02:11:27 PM
Ironoctopus-"If you saw how people drive, push in line for train tickets, food, basically anything, you would understand their fear. They believe that you have to take everything for yourself first, because there are always so many other people waiting to take the thing from you first if you hesitate. So, they feel that they need some very autocratic government to keep order."

Wow, why are we fighting then? Sounds like America to me!

whorehopper
"Maybe true, but we own their oil now."

Now, Now, Lets not be silly, we all know that the Saudis own the oil. China is just coming close to outbidding us.
And on that note, with all that Democracy BS, why do we support the Saudis who are a Monarchy?
It always has been, and always will be about the money. Democapitalism
 
2005-06-11 02:27:10 PM
Why has there not been an armed upraigin in China....do they like living under the oppression of a ruthless dicator?
 
BHK
2005-06-11 02:29:19 PM
The Sims 2 game had to be changed in Chinese at the request of their government. The Criminal career track was changed to the Mime career and every reference to "State" in the University expansion was changed as well. No Sim State University or Sims State Library - I suppose because it was competition for the Communist Party.
 
2005-06-11 03:58:21 PM
Beatle_Matt Why has there not been an armed upraigin in China....do they like living under the oppression of a ruthless dicator?

Hmm.. how did China subdue separatist movements in Tibet? Oh yeah, with nightclubs and pop culture. Combine the distraction of pop culture with a little totalitarianism, and getting people to even consider the planning stages of something becomes an overwhelming challenge.
 
2005-06-11 04:00:47 PM
See what they should be doing is overusing the words until they lose all meaning, as is done when the chimp is told to speak.
 
2005-06-11 04:39:52 PM
It does not really matter. Anyone who cares to can access the internet without the Great Chinese Firewall. Only you have to be carefull about where you do it. Joi geen. Sorry, that is Cantonese, not Mandarin.
 
2005-06-11 05:15:52 PM
Well if I was Bill Gates I'd tell those commie bastards to shove it up their ass.
 
2005-06-11 07:32:01 PM
Mikey_B: Well if I was Bill Gates I'd tell those commie bastards to shove it up their ass.

Yea and if you ask an extra pickle in your burger at wendy's, im sure them telling you to shove it up your ass would work really well for their PR image.
You appease your image to please the local market... so they buy more from you.. you know.. that capitalisty thingy you guys are shoving down every country's throat? Yeah that. that how it works.
 
2005-06-11 08:03:43 PM
iamscotto [TotalFark]

But instead the Right has shifted from fighting Communists to trading with them.

So using economic pressure is wrong? Hmmmm, odd. I'd think getting the Chinese to eventually overthrow their own government would be a good thing. Sure beating them W Coke and Levi's isn't as quick or sexy as just shooting little yellow people but it works better in the long run.
 
2005-06-11 08:06:25 PM
and my point would probably look smarter if i knew how to close a bold tag and/or use the preview feature
 
2005-06-11 08:08:35 PM
won't be long before miKro$oft crashes and windoze goes to /dev/null

btw, BearToy what Desktop Environment is that, and will it work on MandrivaLinux?

/Proud new Linux User!
//I'm down with tha penguin!!
///Linus is my Homeboy!
 
2005-06-11 08:18:00 PM
desynch, piss off...it's exclusivist bastards like you who are part of the reason for stifling the switch between windoze and linux!!

/hates geek snobbery
//hates snobbery of any kind, for that matter! (it's really unneccessary)
 
2005-06-11 09:43:39 PM
apparently microsoft isn't embarrased or ashamed becuse it's on msn news.
 
2005-06-11 10:38:50 PM
I feel the need to point out to everyone that we don't even have a democracy in the US.

We have a constitutional republic.

But, then again - no one really seems to care in the USA anymore.
 
2005-06-12 12:18:32 AM
Yes, rights we take for granted - Microsoft is helping to change our lives to be un-American forever more. Just to make a few more millions/billions for the chair holders this next year until there are no Americans to buy their shiate.

Now I dont care who I offend. Apple and Microsoft can go to hell. Outsourcing, transforming capitalism into socialism, greedy, evil, making money from citizens and employing workers from out of the country and profiting from our demise.

/buying retail

/voting for Dems or Reps - they are killing us



Im done.
 
2005-06-12 03:43:12 AM
Random_Transit

I'm pretty sure that's just a customized Gnome with a darker theme and lots of icons on the top panel. The File Manager is definitely Nautilus.

So yeah, you should be able to get the same look with Mandriva (nee Mandrake).

/Mandriva on the desktop PC, Kubuntu on the Lappy
 
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