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(MSNBC)   Microsoft's new Chinese internet portal has banned the words "democracy" and "freedom"   (news.moneycentral.msn.com) divider line 136
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2005-06-10 06:53:43 PM
It makes you wonder what is censored from us.
 
2005-06-10 07:01:19 PM
While we can't get enough of it, drilled into our heads day in/day out.
 
2005-06-10 07:12:31 PM
I wonder if fr33dom is also filtered. fr33dom is only for the l33t anyway.
 
2005-06-10 07:13:26 PM
those words sound familiar... and yet eerily dangerous.
 
2005-06-10 07:22:46 PM
Moose_Head
It makes you wonder what is censored from us.

I'm pretty sure you can't say " ".
 
2005-06-10 07:53:04 PM
[fnord]You'll never know[/fnord]
 
2005-06-10 09:41:11 PM
Ahhh, Microsoft can now add aiding the suppression of democracy and freedom (literally and figureatively) to its illustrious history. Anything for a buck.
 
2005-06-10 11:16:21 PM
Stop pissing on my Koran...Mmmphh..gag..

(please don't make me masturbate again..)
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2005-06-10 11:18:16 PM
I don't know if that says more about China's attempts for hegemony, or Microsoft's.
 
2005-06-10 11:18:44 PM
As much as I like to say negative things about MS, google does similar things as well. This is nothing new.
 
2005-06-10 11:25:23 PM
They could type in "nothing left to lose", since "freedom" is just another word for that.

- All I Really Need to Know I Learned From Rock and Roll
 
2005-06-11 01:19:15 AM
Rets Roll!!
 
2005-06-11 01:21:28 AM
2005-06-10 06:53:43 PM Moose_Head
It makes you wonder what is censored from us.


Perhaps we don't have anything censored, but plenty of people to tell you those ideas are crazy and insane, we should listen to the government for what is good. All hail republicans and democrats.
 
2005-06-11 01:23:25 AM
e.normous: I wonder if fr33dom is also filtered. fr33dom is only for the l33t anyway.

I doubt it, since the search engine is filtering Chinese words, not English words. I wonder if it is even possible to be 1337 in Chinese...
 
2005-06-11 01:23:44 AM
PHR33 CH1N4!!!!111



Seriously. This should make everyone stop and think about these simple rights we take for granted.
 
2005-06-11 01:24:25 AM
What? No democracy? No freedom? Oh snap, looks like we're gonna have to invade their sorry butts.

...what? We have economic connections with them? Oh. I guess freedom can wait.

/America: (Un)equal Opportunity Imperialism
 
2005-06-11 01:24:29 AM
I suspect the truth is closer to, "China allows Microsoft to censor the words 'democracy' and 'freedom' from its portal."
 
2005-06-11 01:25:08 AM
Truly most favored nation material.
 
2005-06-11 01:25:15 AM
This item contains forbidden speech. Please delete the forbidden speech from this item.
 
2005-06-11 01:26:59 AM
i wonder if they also censored the word contraceptive? - just saying....
 
2005-06-11 01:27:24 AM
Fine, fine.... Prepare the *yawn* invasion.
 
2005-06-11 01:28:56 AM


slap it. You know, for democracy.
 
2005-06-11 01:30:11 AM
why do you hate freedom microsoft?
 
2005-06-11 01:36:49 AM
JerseyTim

Ahhh, Microsoft can now add aiding the suppression of democracy and freedom (literally and figureatively) to its illustrious history. Anything for a buck.

Well they are probably just following the american government's lead.
 
2005-06-11 01:37:59 AM
Can you download the Freedom path in Windows Update later?
 
2005-06-11 01:41:47 AM
Oops. That should have been "patch"

/damn
 
2005-06-11 01:45:09 AM
Great job submitter. Now Fark is blocked in China.
 
2005-06-11 01:45:11 AM
Oh STFU Joe_Man500. They are farking oppressed. Meanwhile, you have the right to sit on your walmart sofa and masturbate to the BBC chick while sucking down orange juice. And instead of being farking thankful you turn it around and say, "whaaaa, Amerikkka is teh hipocrate for not envading theem!!!111"
 
2005-06-11 01:45:51 AM
way to kill your own joke moran
 
2005-06-11 01:49:18 AM
didn't rtfa, but wouldn't it be really awesome if microsoft could get the words in there. that would be the american thing to do....*cues music for team america:world police* "AMERICA F@CK YEA"
We need to assemble a team of hackers to get the words in there, we g0tz 2 g3t doze wordz on teh iNtaRwebs!!!!!111
 
2005-06-11 01:52:54 AM
Attention all neocons:

Please report to the nearest Army recruiting office for our upcoming war with China to spread freedom.

Thank you.
 
2005-06-11 01:54:40 AM
Bed Bath and Beyond, F**k yeah!! isn't it great yuppies?
 
2005-06-11 01:54:56 AM
Yeah, fighting to stop the spread of Communism in Asia was a bad thing, huh? America did everything it could to avoid a full-blown direct confrontation with China in Korea and in southeast Asia and here's what we have. The Left is still buying into China's claim (derived directly from Marx) that we Americans are the imperialists, yet:

peaceful Taiwan is on the verge of being invaded
North Korea is starving its people to death because China backed them
Vietnam models itself on the Chinese system of slave labor and human rights abuses
the Mongolians are recovering from decades of occupation by a China-backed puppet communist regime
the Tibetans are still occupied by the Chinese
Nepal is facing a Communist rebellion backed by you-know-who
millions died in Cambodia at the hands of the Chinese-backed Khmer Rouge
Iran has nuclear weapons technology thanks partly due to the Chinese
Al Qaeda uses Chinese-made weapons around the world

And lest someone thinks this is a merely partisan rant, Nixon is responsible for the undoing of the Right's vigilance against Chinese imperialism with his "detente" policy. While Reagan did great things to bring down bolshevism, he did little to put an end to Maoist China. It could be argued that at the time the Soviets were the primary threat to the West and Reagan's successors should have made the democratization of China a priority. But instead the Right has shifted from fighting Communists to trading with them.
 
2005-06-11 01:54:56 AM
enave: Oh STFU Joe_Man500. They are farking oppressed. Meanwhile, you have the right to sit on your walmart sofa and masturbate to the BBC chick while sucking down orange juice. And instead of being farking thankful you turn it around and say, "whaaaa, Amerikkka is teh hipocrate for not envading theem!!!111"

It's GRAPE soda, thank you very much.

And China is oppressed. I mean, they have a government that allows them to suspend human rights whenever they choose. And they are military aggressors who attack with no probable cause and make things up as they go a long ("Uh... WMDs, no wait, uh, freedom!"). Wait, I think that's another country.

/Yup... Luxembourg.
 
2005-06-11 01:55:51 AM
Whoops. *Grape JUICE*. Mmmmm. Sparkling grape juice.
 
2005-06-11 02:04:20 AM
Google's Censorship in China Worked, Wins Favor
11 May 2005

After complying with Chinese requirements that it censor its search engine results to those people reaching them in China, Google has won a business license to operate in the Communist state. Reuters reports from anonymous sources that the search giant now plans to open an office within the year. That office will include a sales team geared to attracting China's largest firms to the ways of search marketing.

China has just under 100 million internet users, the second largest national group of surfers behind the Americans.
Major online media players like Yahoo have long censored their results in order to prevent China from blocking their sites. This behavior has largely gone unnoted and may severely limit the positive dialog effect internet news and communications have had in the past. One of the greatest benefits of which internet advocates have boasted has been the medium's international mitigation of cultural biases and oppression - In essence, creating a common starting point from which different populations understand the news and reality of the day. But major American firms now regularly adapt their content to the nationalist and populist biases of major markets.
Google was criticized last year for starting the same practice. It was one of the main changes Google was able to show investors for its then-upcoming IPO that it was no longer a pie-eyed do-gooder firm, but rather one focused rather cynically on profit.
 
2005-06-11 02:10:43 AM
Ah yes, Newspeak and Thought Crimes in practical application.
 
2005-06-11 02:13:07 AM
iamscotto:

The Left is still buying into China's claim (derived directly from Marx) that we Americans are the imperialists, yet:

Um... you know, I don't think you can blame the left on this one. Some fringe communists, maybe, but they probably make up about 0.001% of the 'left'.
It's us who are protesting the terrible working conditions, slave labour, etc. that U.S. companies use, with complete Chinese consent.
And it's us (as far as I can tell) who wear the "Free Tibet" shirts and decry all the human rights abuses that China commits there.
No, the left is no friend of China. I'd love to see the U.S. revoke their 'favourite trading partner' status from China, and making them accountable for their domestic policies if they want to keep trading. No one (with any farking intelligence) is buying "China's claim", but there are a whole lot of businessmen buying China's cheap shiat.
 
2005-06-11 02:17:52 AM

Oh how sad.
That means that when the US starts operation Iranian Democracy for Freedom, they won't know about it until they get lung cancer.



 
2005-06-11 02:21:04 AM
But if we go to war with china, what will happen to NIKE?
Just do it?

//It'll never happen, to much $$$ involved, they own our debt.
 
2005-06-11 02:21:57 AM
sure, blame ms. it isn't like google and others haven't been doing this for years...
 
2005-06-11 02:22:08 AM
My god. I can't even imagine what bush's speeches would look like if transcribed.

Every other word that many says is "freedom" or "democracy".

"We're using the power of freedom to bring democracy to people, so they can vote to bring freedom and democracy to others."

/made that quote up
//or did I?
 
2005-06-11 02:23:29 AM
unbrchain: 2005-06-11 01:19:15 AM unbrchain

Rets Roll!!



Letard.
 
2005-06-11 02:23:50 AM
AND they have a stealth bomber! But we do nothing.

Bush really is beyond forgiveness!
 
2005-06-11 02:24:33 AM
Scary indeed.
 
2005-06-11 02:24:33 AM
Well I don't think America's worked all the imperialism out of her blood yet, but at least we're not 18th century England. The "Most-Favored Nation" status is not what it sounds like, though, it basically just means we trade with them like we do everyone else. It isn't a "Favorite trading partner" status. I think the best thing we can do for China is free trade and cultural exchange, encourage them to learn from America. But then buying in to this kind of censorship, it's disturbing. It's yet another nod of approval for the rights violations...

/Sigh...communism really just means government with no accountability...
 
2005-06-11 02:26:35 AM
From the article:

But while China's ruling Communist Party deals harshly with political dissenters, there is no Chinese law that bars the mere use of words such as democracy.

This is a point that puzzles me. If there is no law against words like "freedom" in China, then why is Microsoft putting this filter in? To get on their good side, I guess...

It's really a shame that all these corporations are willing to submit to the (communist) party line in order to turn a buck, but then, there ya go-- they are capitalists, not promoters of democracy. I guess capitalism and democracy don't always go hand in hand. Go ahead and make fun of my naivitee (sp?) for that last sentence.
 
2005-06-11 02:26:51 AM
Personally, I list North Korea, Saudi Arabia, and China as the three nations America will never allow itself to go to war with (well maybe someday in a parallel universe North Korea...)
 
2005-06-11 02:29:28 AM
iamscotto

I remember when the Free Tibet movements was at it's
zenit, the canadian Right Wing Paper "The Post" called the Dalia Lama a leader of a shamanistic cult. It's been sucking the toes of the Communist Party of China ever since.

Wall Street and Bay Street Love the CPC
 
2005-06-11 02:30:24 AM
Microsoft should be very, very ashamed of themselves
 
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