BAHAHAHAHAHA! I bet PETA harms animals to film their ads, too.

Al-Jaz also did not post saddam underwear pics because it was a 'human rights' violation. But the beheadings where OK.

I saw Control Room this weekend.

Didja know that Iraq thought Al-Jazeera was the "American Mouthpiece"?

Didja know that many arabian kingdoms banned Al-Jazeera for being critical of thier governments?

When your a journalist, and everyone hates you, you are probably doing something right.

Rent it. Al Jazeera is the FoxNews of Qatar. Except not as jingoistic.

Didja know that Iraq thought Al-Jazeera was the "American Mouthpiece"?

Didja know that many arabian kingdoms banned Al-Jazeera for being critical of thier governments?

Man, that's pretty tough criticism.

The amount of misinformation about that channel is staggering. I'm not saying everything they say is gospel truth or that they are unbiased, but they are not what you think they are...

Man, that's pretty tough criticism.

Ma sarcasm detector is on the fritz. Whadja mean by that?

entropyblues

Jinxed on the jingoism. :D

Aw.. damn crappy GIS. This time from Rotten Tomatoes

Ma sarcasm detector is on the fritz. Whadja mean by that?

I wasn't being sarcastic - I just thought that the mid east was a bit more accepting of Al Jaz. as I read it on a fairly regular basis, I never see pro-west anything. I've got to see that Control Room that you speak of, now.

I've got to see that Control Room that you speak of, now.

Uhhyup. Of course, the film itself has a bit of a bias, but one of it's main points is that true objectivity is mostly a myth.

PETA didn't stand a chance. Muslims for the Beheading of Innocent People has a stranglehold over the Middle East.

Wow!

Didn't expect so many to be defending Al-Jazeera in here.

entropyblues

one of it's main points is that true objectivity is mostly a myth

Perhaps, but there certainly are degrees of objectivity.

I've heard of Control Room, but like so many things I want to see, it falls through the cracks and I forget about it. But since you made an effort to comment on it, I'll make the effort to watch it. Thanks.

Wow!

Didn't expect Pinto to over-simplify everything and continue sticking to his uninformed guns!

Mtrans

But since you made an effort to comment on it, I'll make the effort to watch it.

It's worth the time for sure.

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So many? All I count is myself and EntropyBlues and we're not really defending Al-Jazeera so much as saying that Farkers like you and the submitter should see 'Control Room' because it might open your minds to the deeper issues at stake. Nah.. who am I kidding? Somebody locked up your mind and threw away the key. It'll take an acetylene blow torch to get any information that conflicts with your prejudices through your skull.

Ahhh, apparently they support a culture of life

Aw, crap. And we were all getting along so nice...

entropy: from your bio...consider yourself asked. :)

I'm not defending anything.

I'm attacking uniformed reacionary attitudes.

Didn't expect Pinto to over-simplify everything and continue sticking to his uninformed guns!

What am I uninformed about, again?

mtrans

Done and done.

What am I uninformed about, again?

Exactly.

Exactly.

Okay, be evasive.

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You don't dispute the oversimplified part?

Many things, but today, but I'm guessing your comment about defense shows that you are uninformed about the nature of Al Jazeera (although it probably not wise of me to glean that much from one sarcastic, trolling one-liner.). But you are certainly grossly uninformed as to the definition of the word 'defending' . Check out the movie we've been discussing.

entropyblues

Yeah, but you know if he saw it, he'd be just like John McCain on the Downing St docs, "I don't agree with it".

> I saw a movie and you didn't, I know more.
Not sticking up for anyone here, but all i read is that someone is suprised that there is defense of al jazeera.

I won't get in the middle of the hen fight, have at it ladies.

Not sticking up for anyone here, but all i read is that someone is suprised that there is defense of al jazeera.

A valid point if his comment were isolated, but this is Pinto. He's made his views on Al Jazeera and liberals in general widely known, and that leaves little doubt as to the sarcasm of his comment.

He still thinks it's Jihad TV, just like he was told it was.

I saw a movie and you didn't, I know more.

No one has claimed anything like that. It's just a very different perspective than we are used to, and it's a always good to have multiple perspectives, wouldn't you agree?

You don't dispute the oversimplified part?

Perhaps not, but I do dispute that he wasn't defending them:

2005-06-06 04:27:39 PM entropyblues

I'm not defending anything.

2005-06-06 03:56:03 PM entropyblues

Didja know that many arabian kingdoms banned Al-Jazeera for being critical of thier governments?

When your a journalist, and everyone hates you, you are probably doing something right.

Looks like defending to me.

Looks like defending to me.

Lovely assumption, good for you. However, there's this little thing called context...

When you assume you make an ass... yadda yadda.

Let me pose this question to everyone:

Concerning US policy, which are you more likely to believe, FOX News or Al-Jazeera?

Lovely assumption, good for you. However, there's this little thing called context...

When you assume you make an ass... yadda yadda.

Good evasion. Okay it wasn't that good, but it was still an evasion.

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Good evasion. Okay it wasn't that good, but it was still an evasion.

It gets exasperating trying to "debate" people who aren't even on the same page as you. If you consider that post a "defence" and not a statement of fact then there is nothing we can do to change that.

I saw Control Room this weekend.

Didja know that Iraq thought Al-Jazeera was the "American Mouthpiece"?

Didja know that many arabian kingdoms banned Al-Jazeera for being critical of thier governments?

When your a journalist, and everyone hates you, you are probably doing something right.

Here's the whole post for ya, entropy. The meaning didn't change. Out of context my eye.

If you consider that post a "defence" and not a statement of fact then there is nothing we can do to change that.

This:

When your a journalist, and everyone hates you, you are probably doing something right.


is a statement of fact?

How do you define fact?

ImaJerk

> I saw a movie and you didn't, I know more.

Because renting movies is so elitest.

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is a statement of fact?

How do you define fact?

Jesus Christ, this is why you're not getting replies you know. You'd need an atomic laser to split a hair any finer.

He stated facts about Al Jazeera and then offered a personal commentary. There. Are you happy with the bandwith we have used on this utterly pointless exchange?

/if you're a journalist and everyone hates you, you ARE doing something right, imho

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Let me pose this question to everyone:

Concerning US policy, which are you more likely to believe, FOX News or Al-Jazeera?

In general, both or neither. Never just one of them.

On particular facts, it depends.

Concerning US policy, which are you more likely to believe, FOX News or Al-Jazeera?

Neither. They're two sides of the same coin. Somewhere in the middle, with a liberal heaping of Reuters, BBC, and the AP.

Good evasion. Okay it wasn't that good, but it was still an evasion.

Listen carefully, because this is the last reasonable statement you get from me today:

I pointed out that Al Jazeera is not well liked in Arab countries and Iraq, to counteract the sentiment of the headline, which is common among reactionary republicans: That Al Jazeera is Jihad TV.

It's a news station, trying it's best to bring free press to a area of the world that has never had that. It's biased for sure, but so is every source. It is not the mouth piece of "enemy", as many have called it.

That's the context. I don't need to defend Al Jazeera. I do feel the need to point out when someone is operating of bad information.

"Al-Jazeera is just a puppet mouthpiece for Osama Bin Laden." - Donald Rumsfeld

"We call on Al-Jazeera to stop thier support of the imperialist US agressors." - Baghdad Bob

In general, both or neither. Never just one of them.

On particular facts, it depends.

Hey, right answer.

That was quick. I figured most would have to wrestle with that one.

Concerning US policy, which are you more likely to believe, FOX News or Al-Jazeera?

More likely?.. Fox News

question Why is midnight called Pinto?

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Out of context my eye.

I think he meant the general context of your other discussions on Fark.


Hey, right answer.

And you call that "defending al Jazeera"?

[The pseudo-conservative] sees his own country as being so weak that it is constantly about to fall victim to subversion; and yet he feels that it is so all-powerful that any failure it may experience in getting its way in the world... cannot possibly be due to its limitations but must be attributed to its having been betrayed.

- Richard Hofstadter

entropyblues and pontechango

You guys really need to get fark it. Bolding everything you quote is not cool.

You guys really need to get fark it. Bolding everything you quote is not cool.

I used to have it, but I had to dump my extensions... You gotta link for it?