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2005-06-05 12:43:20 AM
Yeah, someone keeps trying to kill me by putting beer in my fridge.
 
2005-06-05 02:10:43 AM
and wine in my glass...
 
2005-06-05 05:02:33 AM
That remindth me, holy thit... thith one time I wath baking thith delithious thicken pot pie but forgot it wath in there and after a couple hourth it made thith abtholute meth in my oven!
 
2005-06-05 07:00:09 AM
Die, Peaceboy, die... you magnificent bastard!
 
2005-06-05 07:08:13 AM
peathboy ith a magnifithent bathtard??

people, the submitter completely missed the angle of the fact that her son is named Damien...
 
2005-06-05 07:11:18 AM
Can someone post the article? It asks me to log in to the site.
 
2005-06-05 07:15:10 AM
 
2005-06-05 07:15:45 AM
Woman says meth in oven wasn't hers

EXPLOSION: Marlena Adams was engulfed in fire, is accused of trying to make the drug.

By ZAZ HOLLANDER
Anchorage Daily News

Published: June 4th, 2005
Last Modified: June 4th, 2005 at 06:22 AM

PALMER -- Everyone agrees that 24-year-old Marlena Adams scorched about half her body in September 2003 when the ingredients for methamphetamine exploded in her oven.

Beyond that, what happened to Adams depends on who's telling the story.

Either she got burned making meth, or somebody was trying to kill her. Either her 3-year-old son watched his mother catch on fire, or she took him to a friend's house beforehand.

The case surfaced Friday, when Adams pleaded not guilty in Palmer Superior Court to charges stemming from the incident. A Palmer grand jury indicted her on two drug charges last month. Prosecutors on Friday added a third charge: reckless endangerment, based on allegations the boy was nearby.

The boy's father, Daniel Jessup of Wasilla, has primary custody of Damien. He said Friday that his son remained in the house throughout the incident. Adams says she took Damien to a friend's place before it happened.

Investigators say Adams got burned trying to make meth in her apartment off Lucus Road. Materials in the oven included the gasoline additive Heet, used to break down other ingredients used to make the drug, Wasilla police said at the time.

Adams tried to open the oven at some point in the cooking process and a fireball erupted from inside, burning the then 22-year-old on her legs, arms and torso.

Adams, however, said she believes people she knew tried to kill her because she found evidence of a crime while cleaning a cabin for money. She doesn't deny she was a meth user. But she said she never "cooked" the stuff.

During an interview at her mother's Wasilla home, Adams said that the day of the explosion several friends came by and she got in the shower. When she came out, she smelled something burning in the kitchen and ran to the oven, which she discovered was set on broil.

The stuff inside popped, caught on fire, and then sprayed burning chemicals onto her arms, Adams said. She tried to push the oven closed. The contents exploded. The oven door dislocated her knee. The impact from the blast threw her against a high row of cupboards.

"I woke up on the floor in a big puddle of fire," she said.

Superior Court Judge Beverly Cutler released Adams on her own recognizance Friday, but she set a bail hearing for next week, as requested by prosecutor Richard Payne.

Cutler set a trial for mid-August.
 
2005-06-05 07:16:17 AM
Hey...someone just sh*t my pants.
 
2005-06-05 07:17:03 AM
This being Anchorage, it's probably true.
 
2005-06-05 07:19:37 AM
her 3 year olds name is Damien? dude- it was totally him.
 
2005-06-05 07:22:51 AM
hhaaaaaa!

But she said she never "cooked" the stuff.
(successfully)
 
2005-06-05 07:29:28 AM
Thanks Guy In Guy Incognito!
 
2005-06-05 07:31:42 AM
Maybe it's an omen.
 
2005-06-05 07:32:15 AM
Hope they take the kid away from this freak and give him to a good home. But probably not. You would not believe what kind of hell it is trying to adopt.
 
2005-06-05 07:45:19 AM
Nothin' says lovin' like methamphetiamine in the oven!
 
2005-06-05 07:54:21 AM
Well if I wanted to kill a meth user and avoid being blamed for it, that's more than likely what I'd try

on the other hand, legalize it.
 
2005-06-05 08:09:56 AM
legalize meth1?!?!

would prolly increase fark revenues i guess
 
2005-06-05 08:10:15 AM
Hey, someone was trying to kill me by putting pot in my bong! Who do I sue?!
 
2005-06-05 08:14:07 AM
urallhorriblepeople: legalize meth1?!?!

Yes, legalize it. Why not?

If someone wants to smoke meth, as long as he's harming no one and not giving any to minors, that's none of my business.

I'm for the legalization of all drugs, that's not yours or anyone's business to tell me what I can fark my body with
 
2005-06-05 08:21:45 AM
Woman claims someone was trying to kill her by making meth in her oven

And she was just making it easy by ingesting all she could find.
 
2005-06-05 08:23:03 AM
oooh good ole methies, got tons of em here in good old Pennsylvania... sunken in eyes, cant stop talking, farked up teeth...
 
2005-06-05 08:35:17 AM
Some guy at m high school used to make some kind of meth by microwaving some kind of pills. At least that's what I heard, don't ask me if it's possible. Anyway he's burn out a bunch of microwaves and throw em in his junkyard of a back yard. He wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
 
2005-06-05 08:39:36 AM
My girlfriend's trying to kill me. She keeps putting her cooze over my johnson.
 
2005-06-05 08:47:24 AM
Sad thing is Coltrane it's true.....

HIV is a terrible thing and you thought it just meant love.
 
2005-06-05 09:11:56 AM
Adams, however, said she believes people she knew tried to kill her because she found evidence of a crime while cleaning a cabin for money. She doesn't deny she was a meth user. But she said she never "cooked" the stuff.


That sounds so typical of a meth user. Not only is it a) not her fault, but b) someone was out to get her.
 
2005-06-05 09:23:33 AM
I'll bet her lawyer claims that she put a chicken in the oven, and somehow the supermarket placed meth inside the bird.
 
2005-06-05 09:28:06 AM

"Either her 3-year-old son watched his mother catch on fire, or she took him to a friend's house beforehand."


And either mommy is a superhero and said "Flame on !" when she caught fire, or little Johnny will just have to admit to his schoolmates that mommy can't cook meth properly.


A speech the mommy gave the kid at onepoint: "I tell ya, I remember a time when I was about... I was little, I don't know... 4, 5 something like that. We had this old dog that had a litter of puppies. And I walked in the bathroom one day and my Mother was standing there, kneeling down... Dog had a litter of about 8, and my Mother was bending over killing each one of these little puppies in the bathtub. I remember I said 'why?'... She said 'Im just killing what I can't take care of' - Then my momma said to me, she looked at me and she said 'I wish I could do that to you'. - Maybe she, maybe she shoulda. "

 
2005-06-05 09:43:37 AM
Meth is awful stuff. It's an epidemic around here. Seems like the bust a big lab every other week. Why can't people just smoke pot anymore? At least if you smoke too much weed, you'll just nod off to sleep. (unless you pass out with a lit doob and burn your house down).

I hate to sound like Nancy Reagan but meth has got to go.
 
2005-06-05 09:53:58 AM
They were probably trying to make money, but maybe kill two birds with one stone?
 
2005-06-05 09:59:36 AM
Tatsuma: I'm for the legalization of all drugs, that's not yours or anyone's business to tell me what I can fark my body with

That kind of logic, i.e. that your own bodily protection is no one else's business or responsibility reaches to other areas. If applied you could not for example sue a local authority if due to lack of maintenance your sidewalk was full of holes and you fell and injured yourself. Why? Because it's no longer their business what you fark your body with.

Legalizing drugs and de-criminalizing drugs are completely different arguments, but a proponent of total legalization would probably have to admit that most people on hearing that would react extremely negatively. There's absolutely no way to try keep that stuff from being resold, so minors would have every opportunity to avail of it, just like kids don't have tremendous difficulty getting hold of cigarettes.

Then there is the issue of whether or not large numbers of addicts looking for a fix are a social problem requiring extensive policing to go with that. Legalize all drugs, everyone with money gets their fix. By next week they've got zero cash, and a guaranteed supply if they can get some cash. Criminality en masse ensues.

I don't see your dismissive position of "what's it to you what I do?" working on any levels.
 
2005-06-05 10:04:16 AM
Personal protection is a personal resposponsibilty Emmkay.

Failing to properly protect you and your property is your problem.
 
2005-06-05 10:05:38 AM
Addendum to previous post:

And if drugs were legalized, isn't that a major factor removed from any attempt to incentivize people to quit? I think so.

If it's supplied legally, what's to stop people from just continuing to fark their bodies? Nothing. How can you tell people to stop if you're taking taxes off them from their purchases of highly addictive substances? They'd have every right to keep shooting up/rolling up/cooking up and cocking their finger at every councilling and rehabilitative service currently provided because automatically what they do with drugs would be okay.
 
2005-06-05 10:10:00 AM
Maxor: Failing to properly protect you and your property is your problem.

As it stands, if there is a hazard in a public area due to lack of maintenance, and it's not signposted, if entry to it isn't blocked or efforts to restore it to a safe condition are not met, then a citizen who suffers an injury to their person because of said hazard has a right to recompense.

Protecting your property is your responsibility. But an aged person has every entitlement to walk a public sidewalk without having to dance around holes or anything else which a local authority has the responsibility of maintaining.
 
2005-06-05 10:13:09 AM
zappaisfrank
Is it REALLY a big problem there? Or is that what the local police/government-run newspaper sez? There is so much scare tactic crap in the media these days, I just assume most stuff like this is bullplop put out to keep fun chemical products like toy rocket engines out of the hands of lawfull citizens.
I'm assuming You're a zappa fan, so I would trust what You say.
I'm in Jersey, so We don't hear about meth cooks around My area, so I'm allways sceptical about this "epidemic"
 
2005-06-05 10:19:36 AM
You know she's lying because she said she was taking a shower when they put the stuff in her oven. A meth user taking a shower, yea right. Gotcha biatch!
 
2005-06-05 10:20:04 AM
Her defence sounds like the classic murder defense.
I didn't do it because I wasn't even in town at the time.
And if I was in town, I wasn't at the house.
And if I was at the house, I wasn't in that room.
And if I was in the room, I wasn't the one who stabbed him.
And if I was the one who stabbed him, it was in self-defense.
And if it wasn't in self-defense, then I was temporarily insane.

Lies are like that. You can just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper into a hole.

Not that I'm pre-judging the character of this fine upstanding meth-using mom.
 
2005-06-05 10:26:17 AM
alan holcome: I don't know about Pennsylvania, but everything they say about the epidemic is true in the Midwest. The thing about meth that really doesn't apply to other drugs regarding the "personal choice" argument, isthat there are so many people who are afected by it who never touch the stuff. I've known people who have lived next to meth labs and been sick for motnhs without knowing it. I also know of a family that moved into a house without knowing there had been a meth lab in there before. Their toddler was crawling around on the floor for weeks, and no one could figure out why he was getting sick all the time. When they found out, it cost thousands of dollars to clean the house, because all the ingredients are toxic.
 
2005-06-05 10:47:45 AM
emmkayjee:

f applied you could not for example sue a local authority if due to lack of maintenance your sidewalk was full of holes and you fell and injured yourself. Why? Because it's no longer their business what you fark your body with.

Ahahahaha! That's ridiculous. In one scenario you make a personal choice, in the other negligence causes you to be harmed through no act of your own. Laughable, just laughable.

If it's supplied legally, what's to stop people from just continuing to fark their bodies? Nothing.

You've never been addicted to drugs, have you? It's not exactly fun and games.

Legalize all drugs, everyone with money gets their fix. By next week they've got zero cash, and a guaranteed supply if they can get some cash

Except they now need only about one thousandth (depending on substance) of their previously required annual income to stay high. So instead of a thousand crimes you have one. Or, you know, you could just make 'em productive somehow, work programs already exist.
 
2005-06-05 11:03:10 AM
The concept of providing cheap drugs to addicts is allready here.

Methadone is a strong, highly addictive opiate. People taking treatment are effectively continuing their habit.

They are still addicted to opiates, just like when they were riding the H-train.

However, methadone is...

A. regulated dosages = less chance to OD
B. available at prices that addicts can afford = don't need to steal
C. clean = no dirty needles and not cut with poison
D. not sold by criminals = don't get robbed/raped/killed by dealer

I for one don't believe that people should do hard drugs... especially not meth... however ...

It's plain to see that many of the problems from drugs stem from their illegal status and high costs rather than from the drug itself.

For example adderall a highly prescribed ADD medication is just pharmacutical grade amphetemines.

When the mom on desperate house wives popped her son's adderall and cleaned the house like a meth fiend there's a reason for that.


/drink a bit, smoke some weed if you want
//but just don't smoke meth guys
///And No needles.... bad news.
 
2005-06-05 11:19:24 AM
2005-06-05 08:47:24 AM Maxor


Sad thing is Coltrane it's true.....

HIV is a terrible thing and you thought it just meant love.

/It is love. It's only the HIV with your mom.
 
2005-06-05 11:20:48 AM
Just what I need, life advice on drugs from the addicted users of Fark. Seems ironic to me. Don't do meth, instead, spend 8 hours a day reading what everyone else has to say about topics they know nothing about. Count Me IN.
 
GCD
2005-06-05 11:25:27 AM
I knew some of the ingredients for making meth, but wow...

Here's a more comprehensive list of the various items used to cook meth:

- Alcohol
- Ether
- Benzene
- Toluene/Paint Thinner
- Freon
- Acetone
- Chloroform
- Camp Stove Fuel/Coleman Fuel
- Starting Fluid
- Anhydrous Ammonia
- "Heet"
- White Gasoline
- Phenyl-2-Propane
- Phenylacetone
- Phenylpropanolamine
- Iodine Crystals
- Red Phosphorous
- Black Iodine
- Lye (Red Devil Lye)
- Drano
- Muriatic/Hydrochloric Acid
- Battery Acid/Sulfuric Acid
- Epsom Salts
- Batteries/Lithium
- Sodium Metal
- Wooden Matches
- Propane Cylinders
- Hot Plates
- Ephedrine (over-the-counter)
- Cold Tablets
- Bronchodialators
- Energy Boosters
- Rock Salt
- Diet Aids

I really wonder why anyone would VOLUNTAIRLY put that crap in their system.

And from what I've heard, cleaning up a meth lab is a hell of a task in itself...
 
2005-06-05 11:28:34 AM
morrisonsl: In one scenario you make a personal choice, in the other negligence causes you to be harmed through no act of your own. Laughable, just laughable.

We're in agreement here. My problem with the post I was replying to was that it was such a sweeping statement. My reading of it applied to far more than just drug use and freedom of choice. If you choose to do harm to yourself is it just your choice, or a matter for some other authority? But if it's not a matter for some overarching authority, what effect does that have on the responsibility of that authority regarding harm that comes to you from its action/inaction?

No I've never been addicted to hard drugs, just cigarettes. I'm not against drugs, but I am against the widespread legalization of drugs. I'll grant there are more reasons than difficulty or illegality of supply to get people to stop. But making drugs legal still takes away one reason to kick the habit.

The price would come down if drugs were sold legally, but with that supply gets more dispersed, and while it might not neccesarily increase a huge amount, it would reach a larger market. You said, "they now need only about one thousandth ... their ,,,, annual income", and I'm not sure this is something I would want. But I haven't given it enough thought. I might prefer if they required one thousand times their current income to get drugs, like the Chris Rock line that there's no more innocent bystanders if a bullet costs you $1,000 - not to use a comedian to back up a point. Just that diminishing costs and dispersed supply of such substances introduces the possibility of re-selling the substances at a similar price range so it now reaches minors or new users.

Basically with legalizing it there's no way to really make it a meth users' club, so only hardened users get it.

I agree with all of 0lorin's points, but while problems stem from illegal status of drugs, where has it been tested that legal status is a guaranteed improvement? I can easily see the case for Class B de-criminalization. If you buy for yourself only, you shouldn't have a record and certainly not do time. And the $200 a day cost (figure admittedly pulled out of my ass) for a habit is certainly more 'conducive' to criminality than a $20 dollar a day habit. But my concern with hard drugs is the spread and growth of the user base.
 
2005-06-05 11:30:26 AM
I could generate such a list for any compound. Those are chemicals which could be used to make methamphetine according to different chemical pathways. You are not necessarily putting those things into your body, it all depends on the skill of the chemist. If a real organic chemist prepared some isomeric methamphetamine sulfate for you in a well-equipped laboratory, it would be chemically indistinguishable from the methamphetamine at the pharmacy. You would need a good set of glass ware, a high-power vacuum pump, digital pressure monitor, mantle, etc. and preferably a GC; but even all that equipment only costs 10-20k (If you get a used Gas Chromatograph).
 
2005-06-05 11:37:35 AM
emmkayjee, I've always supported a much more structured form of legalization. For example, there would be a state-owned pharmacy which supplied the narcotics, similar to an ABC store but even more strict. You present your ID when purchasing the narcotics, and you are given a scientifically proven amount which is considered safe. For exmaple, you can purchase 500mg of pure cocaine per week at maximum. You can purchase 240mg of pure MDMA per week. 500mg mescaline, 60mg bromomescaline, 10g hydroponically grown marijuana, 10g of psilocybe mushrooms or a corresponding amount of psilocin, etc. The amounts would be sufficient for someone to get high, but the regulated nature of the system would curtail addiction. Government education on the dangers of illicility produced versions of the chemicals would curtail clandestine production, much in the way moonshine is extremely limited in scope.
 
2005-06-05 11:47:13 AM
kr0m0z0ne, it's posssible that could work, but consumption/use would have to be done in store and supervised as I believe methadone is used at the moment. Which makes a week's supply of cocaine or any other substance from a pharmacy actually 7 daily trips a week.

There's nothing to stop that from working otherwise, though if Government education could curtail clandestine production there would never have been a drug problem or a ridiculous unwinnable 'war on drugs' in the first place. I can't see illicit production going away totally, but if it could be drastically minimized, or go offshore, that'd be a significant policy victory.

About the original point about pharmacies: it's a real hard sell politically though.
 
GCD
2005-06-05 11:50:59 AM
kr0m0z0ne,

....it all depends on the skill of the chemist...

Well, given the fact that the majority of people cooking meth aren't known for their backgrounds in chemistry, I'd be willing to guess that you're ingesting more than your fair share of Drano.
 
2005-06-05 11:56:23 AM
kr0m0z0ne

10g of psilocybe mushrooms or a corresponding amount of psilocin


Dried or fresh? One is a pretty signifigant trip, the other is barely anything.
How about strains? Pscylocibe cubenis is alot different than say, Pscylocibe cyascens in psylocibin/pslocin ratios, potency, etc.
 
2005-06-05 11:58:49 AM
alan holcome [TotalFark]

zappaisfrank
Is it REALLY a big problem there? Or is that what the local police/government-run newspaper sez? There is so much scare tactic crap in the media these days, I just assume most stuff like this is bullplop put out to keep fun chemical products like toy rocket engines out of the hands of lawfull citizens.
I'm assuming You're a zappa fan, so I would trust what You say.
I'm in Jersey, so We don't hear about meth cooks around My area, so I'm allways sceptical about this "epidemic"


It is big around here. I live in the SW part of Michigan, and there's a huge problem with it. I am not basing my statements on this from what I read in the paper, I am relating what I hear from folks on the street. I grew up in this area, and every once in a while I run into someone I went to school with, and they always have at least four or five names of people we knew in school that are farked up on the stuff. Meth is quite the small town phenomenon, as there is little else to do around here except get farked up.
 
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