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2005-06-03 09:18:14 PM
With the lawsuit pending, the Covington Diocese settled other claims, paying $4 million from its savings

taxthemtaxthemtaxthemtaxthemtaxthem.

i have no problem with non profit organizations getting a tax shelter, but the assumption that religion=non-profit is a faulty one.

get to tithing. looks like there's some bills to pay.
 
2005-06-03 10:24:40 PM
heap:

Tell me about the financial profit from settling lawsuits with $4 million.
 
2005-06-03 10:26:55 PM
Of course there are Catholics in Covington, Kentucky. It's the Kentucky part of the tri-state metro that is Cincinnati, one of the biggest Irish/German cities west of Boston.
 
2005-06-03 10:27:34 PM
Kentucky loves its God, Guns & Grass, submitter.
 
2005-06-03 10:28:33 PM
is this god working in a wierd way or
sick d!@k eating bastard getting what he should?
 
2005-06-03 10:28:51 PM
kentucky is right there on the border of the rational northern states and the bat shiat insane southern states... most kentuckians were on the right side of the civil war, so we'll give them that credit.

i think there's about 9 catlix here in alabama., the rest were tired of putting up with the snake handlers and moved to florida
 
2005-06-03 10:28:56 PM
lol religun r dum
 
2005-06-03 10:30:19 PM

"Y'all priest are brutalisin' me ! PAY ME, BIATCH !"


 
2005-06-03 10:30:20 PM
Suffer the children to cum on my face

Or something like that....
 
2005-06-03 10:34:12 PM
The church f*cked this up years ago by covering it up instead of telling preists to turn themselves in to the police for their crimes. It would have put a stop to all this years ago if they knew they couldn't hide behind the cloth.
 
2005-06-03 10:34:15 PM
a ronnie farking dobbs reference.

well played.
 
2005-06-03 10:40:30 PM
Show of hands: Who read that as Kentucky Fried Catholics?

/sounds of crickets chirping
 
2005-06-03 10:40:31 PM
farking Catholic Church.

It's run by a bunch of men who are only in it for PROFIT. They are virtually untouchable and get filthy rich by brainwashing the parishioners.

The parishioners enable this kind of behavior because no matter how many times the Church kicks them in the ass, they turn the other cheek and write the fat checks.

The Catholic Church needs to be PROSECUTED for it's crimes, it's leaders need to be held responsible for their behavior (how in the HELL did Law not end up in jail?)

If there were ever proof that God does not exist, it's the Catholic Church.
 
2005-06-03 10:46:58 PM
$120 million.

Anyone want to start a religion? Just lay off the pedo shiat and we could make some good coin.
 
2005-06-03 10:48:00 PM
Covington don't count as KY, that's just "poor man's Cincy"
 
2005-06-03 10:49:56 PM
interesting postal factoid: the federal government subsidises the postal service for non-profit mailings. so your tax dollars are spent to help joyce meyers, the cathoic church, american red cross, etc to beg in your mailbox
 
2005-06-03 10:54:17 PM
"It doesn't bring back the lost innocence for the victims and it certainly will not bring the innocent life back to them," she said.

How many of these alleged victims were teenagers at the time? How many people who call priests who had sex with teenagers "perverts and monsters" are also the freaks who support handing out condoms to girls as young as 11? How many bigots who always make priest jokes oppose a mandatory criminal investigation when a pregnant 12 year old goes to a judge for an abortion so the abuse against her can stop? If there is enough evidence to warrant taking 120 million dollars away from charities, schools, and other things that may not be as holy, why aren't a shiatload of priests being charged with felonies? Some Bishops live in nicer houses, but I don't know any priests who live in anything too swank, and I don't think these settlements will be punishing anyone still alive involved in the abuse one way or the other. How many of these victims are suing their parents who may have stuck their heads in the sand with a lot of society, if you're telling me you never heard a priest being a molester joke before the major news stories broke, you're either too young, too stupid, or you're lying.

I can call what these priests did rape. Many of you see nothing wrong with sexual activity among our youth as wrong and you shouldn't say a damn thing. People who focus on monetary damages above criminal charges aren't receiving any kind of justice, more people are being hurt who did nothing wrong. If someone wants therapy then the Church should pick up the bill, if someone wants a new house and their story is suspect, they can go jump.

So in summation if you are a sick bastard, keep your mouth shut, because it was people with your mindset in postions of power who stuck their heads in the sand or ignored reality (molesters can be rehabilitated, it was only with teenagers, etc). Victims deserve restitution, but each case should be evaluated and extortion should be fought so that good people, especially the poor, don't get further hurt by scandal (this also is partially the Church's fault for not truly facing what went wrong, as a instituition they have an obligation to make sure justice is served, restitution is made, and other innocent people don't suffer in the process).
 
2005-06-03 10:54:28 PM
Joh Frederson: Tell me about the financial profit from settling lawsuits with $4 million.

they have 4 million sitting in the bank.

did you think that appeared there thru non profit means? i'd say 4 million in the bank is profit, ya ninny.
 
2005-06-03 10:58:14 PM
Tell me about the financial profit from settling lawsuits with $4 million.

Cardinal Law lived in a $16,000,000 estate when he was a Cardinal here in the US.

What was that about the Church being non-profit again? I think I missed it. . .
 
2005-06-03 10:58:49 PM
Slackfumasta


farking Catholic Church.

It's run by a bunch of men who are only in it for PROFIT. They are virtually untouchable and get filthy rich by brainwashing the parishioners.

The parishioners enable this kind of behavior because no matter how many times the Church kicks them in the ass, they turn the other cheek and write the fat checks.

The Catholic Church needs to be PROSECUTED for it's crimes, it's leaders need to be held responsible for their behavior (how in the HELL did Law not end up in jail?)

If there were ever proof that God does not exist, it's the Catholic Church.


Trolling! Because everyone knows that where this is going, I might as well finish it up. I will pre-empt your sensless arguements with a Hitler.
 
2005-06-03 11:02:53 PM
heap Slackfumasta

Hell yeah, guys!

Awesome!

Let us get some rope and string those damn Catholics the fark up!

Guys, we are having a Klan meeting later, hope you can make it!
 
2005-06-03 11:03:04 PM
Yeah! Godwin the threads right off the bat, and we can get back to drinking beer!
 
2005-06-03 11:07:03 PM
Kentucky = Ky = K-Y

Coincidence? I think not!
 
2005-06-03 11:07:44 PM
speaking of ninnies...
 
2005-06-03 11:07:58 PM
people still donate money to that group of pedos?

tards.
 
2005-06-03 11:09:19 PM
lovehate:

That's actually quite impressive; a gramatically well written three paragraph rant that lacks anything even resembling a point. What exactly are you trying to say? I've read it twice and I still can't work out what you're trying to say, you think people are to blame for paedophilia in the churh by making jokes, you think the church is to blame, you think those in power are to blame for sticking their heads in the sand, you think society as a whole is to blame for letting teenagers think it's OK to have sex (teenage pregnancy is at it's lowest level in forty years, but lets not let facts get in the way).

It seems like you blame everyone in the world except yourself. Well, I know the truth:

lovehate, you are to blame for the sexual abuse scandals in the catholic church, you sick evil bastard. Just admit it and we'll go easy on you.

//You're also to blame for 9/11, AIDS and the fall of the Prussian empire. Confess, evildoer!
 
2005-06-03 11:10:21 PM
lovehate--differences in sexual activity among youth and a priest raping a youth.

1. The youth are consensual, the priest is a rapist.
2. The age difference. Two 13 year olds messing around and end up having sex is much different than your priest raping you.

The Vancouver Sun had a nice little editorial column which highlighted that the numbers of youth having sex is not out of control, but it has been a stable number (with around half, +/- 10% coming from my memory not having had sex by age 18) for a long time. Of the ones who did engage in sexual activity at a young age the percentage who regretted it years later was small. Most of them who engaged in sex at a young age were also in a committed relationship and in love as opposed to one night stands. I wish I had that paper still so I could quote it for you.

You can defend your religion because I understand this issue reflects poorly on more than those involved, BUT YOU WILL NOT EQUATE THE RAPE OF A YOUTH TO AN ACT OF LOVE TO MAKE YOURSELF FEEL BETTER.
 
2005-06-03 11:12:48 PM
Hey, that's the first time I've ever inspired an act of Godwin'ing!

I really do feel that way about the Catholic Church though.
 
2005-06-03 11:13:46 PM
This is my Diocese. It's alot of cash, but I believe that every single dime is deserved by those victims of pedophile priests. As a recovering Catholic myself, I've heard whispers and jokes for over 30 years about these priests. LUckily, my mom was pretty savy and knew alot of people on the gossip grapevine and she knew which priests to steer clear of. But the former Bishop Ackerman buried so many allegations and moved these priests along to where no one knew them and there was plenty of fresh meat.

I repeat, this Diocese, MY Diocese, deserves to pay every single dime for the crimes they have committed, assisted in, and covered up.
 
vjp
2005-06-03 11:17:43 PM
Kentucky = Ky = K-Y

I tried some Kentucky jelly on an English muffin once, it was the worst damn stuff I ever tasted.
 
2005-06-03 11:18:16 PM
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how this gets paid for.

"Ok, loyal Kentuckian(?) Catholics, if you could all just pony up for your Priests' sins now, Jesus would appreciate it. Step right up, we've adopted an all new No-Hands rule for your safety and comfort. And now Father Nelson has a stirring sermon for you on the subject of constancy. Sweet constancy."
 
2005-06-03 11:30:59 PM
More shocking: there are Catholics in Kentucky
Are you kidding??? I grew up in a suburb of Louisville, and we were the only NON-Catholics on our block. Louisville has more fish sandwhich joints per square mile than anywhere else I've ever lived or visited.
 
2005-06-03 11:38:25 PM
Give me a break. I was in Tennessee, and I've seen the people that live there. The fact of the matter is these idiots live in a state where you can marry your sister at 12, and thier greatest pride and joy is legalized cow-humping.

Those Tennessee bastards should thank those priests for attempting to put some genetic variation in families whose family trees can best be described as thin, vertical lines.

You know something is wrong with your area when the whole town turns out for Special Olympics, as competitors.
 
2005-06-03 11:38:29 PM
I live in Louisville; I agree with DoubleGGuy. Submitter obviously didn't know how dominant the private Catholic high schools are in Louisville and Lexington, for example.
 
2005-06-03 11:42:00 PM
xenomino

do the people from tennessee that you deride so eloquently and fairmindedly...know that kentucky and tennessee are different states? you don't seem to know the difference.

special olympics, indeed.
 
2005-06-03 11:43:08 PM
SilverSurfer3000

You claim to be a "recovering" Catholic, which means you've put your back to the Church. Yet you still claim a Diocese as your "own"? Then, you use the argument that since it's "your" Diocese, that you're making a more informed opinion?

That would be the same as me leaving the US to join al Queda, renouncing my US citizenship, then claiming that because it's my country, I can make an informed decision that it needs to be nuked?

Anyway, many people over the years have known which priests to avoid, and why. Nothing was done before by anyone, Catholics or non-Catholics alike. It's everyone's fault for not recognizing and correcting the problem earlier. And, the problem isn't just Catholic (a local Church of Christ minister is being prosecuted for the same thing locally).

I leave you with a quote, as I cannot say it better.


"We are not entirely guiltless, we the Allies, because it took us twelve years to open the gates of Dachau. We were blind and unbelieving and slow, and that we can never be again. We must know that there can never be peace if there is cruelty like this in the world. And if ever again we tolerate such cruelty, we have no right to peace." --Martha Gellhorn, female journalist at liberation of Dachau
 
2005-06-03 11:43:16 PM
i was born and raised in covington. the whole northern ky area has TONS of catholics.just about ALL my friends growing up went to holy cross,or covington catholic high school.the "covington diocese" actually is all of northern ky which is probably over 100,000 people.

/not catholic
//go covington holmes bulldogs!
 
2005-06-03 11:48:41 PM
Now lets go after the Protestants-as they make up the majority of churchs in this country, statistically speaking, must have more sex abusers...

But Baptists just don't provide the same exciting headlines...

/knew a Mormon dad who did it to his own kids at Boy Scout camp...
//funny it was swept under the rug...
 
2005-06-03 11:49:23 PM
The Roman Catholic Diocese of Covington agreed Friday to set up a $120 million fund to compensate victims of child-molesting priests and other employees...

In other words, about $1.20 per victim.
 
2005-06-03 11:49:25 PM
heap

You sound a little upset, did we discover your little secret too? Are you a priest from the Ozarks?
 
2005-06-03 11:50:57 PM
C'mon folks: Organized religion is nothing but a racket.

Now certainly, outlawing organized religion would be a bad thing. But if they're going to engage in all manner of bad deeds and nastiness, we can at least tax the crap out of them like everyone else.
 
2005-06-03 11:53:39 PM
Gunther
No, teen preganancy is not at a low, teen birthrate is. Yes, I blame many groups for those abuses, my other point was that many people are not consistent with their values when it comes to youth and sex, so they have no place to criticize.

Oh, please walk me through how you came to the conclusion that I was saying people who make jokes are to blame? I was clearly saying many of those people are hypocrites. While ultimatly it's the priests fault, many many others played a part too, directly or indirectly.

h to the 'ojo
BUT YOU WILL NOT EQUATE THE RAPE OF A YOUTH TO AN ACT OF LOVE TO MAKE YOURSELF FEEL BETTER.


Cut and paste where I equated the two? You can't because I didn't. But it certainly is a relevant point that people like you don't think that two 13 year olds messing around and having sex is really bad, there is a lack of a victimizer, but there are two victims. You conviently skipped over my part about a 12 year old getting an abortion and no criminal investigation being done. Don't you know it may very well be a grown man raping her? Do you support criminal investigations on minors who want abortions? If no, then you don't get to criticize priests who rape 15 year olds. Some of the teenagers may have "consented", but we rightly don't acknowledge that as consent because people that young can't make those kinds of decisions, logic doesn't magically occur when the sex is with a person of the same age, or a 30 year old. Ther will be less maliciousness among members of the same age, less mind farking to keep each other quiet, but there is still damage done. And if you're willing to call that an "act of love" just because they're the same age and then call it rape when it is with a 40 year old, then you're being insincere.
 
2005-06-03 11:56:00 PM
But I thought, in Kentucky, only brothers and sisters...Nope!...No...I won't do is. It's just too easy.

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/inkentuckybrothersandsistersfarkeachotherewwthat'ssogrosswellunlessthesisteri shottjanwhocanblameaguyImeanpussyispussyinthedarklol
 
2005-06-03 11:59:06 PM
To be completely honest, religion is dead. If anyone actually believes that God sent an angel to rape Mary, they deserve to have thier kids banged by a priest. The only real religion is technology, and the only God is Mankind. We determine our own fate, and not some idiot is a frock and goofy-assed collared shirt.

If you need something to believe in, believe in your ability to control your own future. If you need to believe in something fake to control your future, watch out. There are those of us who don't need to believe in a God to perform well, and we know your weakness.
 
2005-06-04 12:08:35 AM
is it a flamewar yet?
 
2005-06-04 12:11:46 AM
The thing that scares me the most about this is that the Catholic Church in Kentucky has $120 million dollars that it can afford to pay out. We need to tax these farkers into the stone age. It would fund the entire public education system.
 
2005-06-04 12:12:38 AM
In honor of Drew I must post in this thread.

Go Kentucky!
 
2005-06-04 12:26:09 AM
xenomino: You sound a little upset, did we discover your little secret too?

knowing kentucky and tennessee are different states really isn't my dirty secret.

i can also count to 11 without using my zipper.

besides, michigan (like indiana) really isn't in much of a position to get in dickwagging contests with other states. basically you can safely rag on alabama and idaho.
 
2005-06-04 12:28:22 AM
lovehate:

No, teen preganancy is not at a low, teen birthrate is. Yes, I blame many groups for those abuses, my other point was that many people are not consistent with their values when it comes to youth and sex, so they have no place to criticize.

If you're just going to flat-out lie, then there's no real point in discussing anything. Take a look at the statistics on teen pregnangy at the moment; it's really low. Want to no why? because liberals like me pushed sex education into schools. Now kids are capable of making informed descisions on whether or not they are going to shag, on whether or not they're going to use protection and whether or not they're going to have an abortion.

Whadda ya know? teen pregnancy has dropped to it's lowest in forty years. Liberals were right again, whoda thunk it?
 
2005-06-04 12:31:19 AM
2005-06-04 12:11:46 AM foozdude


The thing that scares me the most about this is that the Catholic Church in Kentucky has $120 million dollars that it can afford to pay out. We need to tax these farkers into the stone age. It would fund the entire public education system.


Does the phrase "No taxation without representation" ring any bells?

/Damn fool
 
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