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(ABC)   Saudis outraged at proposal to let women drive. "Driving by women leads to evil," a man wrote in a letter to the editor. "Can you imagine what it will be like if her car broke down? She would have to seek help from men"   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 469
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2005-06-02 06:03:36 PM  
Did you know that in some predominantly Muslim countries, it's legal to kill your wife and her lover if and when you catch them together? The law says that at that moment when you first catch them, you are in a state of temporary insanity and cannot be held accountable. If you wait a while, though, then it's illegal again.

I just can't understand how people can think the world will end if a woman has sex outside of wedlock.
 
2005-06-02 06:04:09 PM  
Webgrunt, you're right man. See, it's all true?
 
2005-06-02 06:04:57 PM  
From the liberal point of view, this must present a perplexing situation.

On one hand, everyone should be allowed freedom to do as they wish and to have their freedoms recognized by all of the world.

On the other hand, in the Saudi culture, women do not have those rights and how can we judge their culture? Who are we to say what is right or wrong for them because everything is culturally relevent.

Really, drive, don't drive... I could care less.

I'd be more impressed if the Muslim world would police their own and prevent the asshats with dynomite vests from walking about killing innocents.
 
2005-06-02 06:10:00 PM  
More of the Same

I'd be more impressed if the Muslim world would police their own and prevent the asshats with dynomite vests from walking about killing innocents.

That'd be like a tiger trying to fight a swarm of bees.
 
2005-06-02 06:11:57 PM  
Webgrunt:

I just can't understand how people can think the world will end if a woman has sex outside of wedlock.


Alimony.
 
2005-06-02 06:11:58 PM  
Before the Islam bashing begins (which for most people here is just a switch from their usual Christian bashing)

Well, it's not like bashing either is really that different to begin with.

And in the context of this article, it's quite the same, because the true-blues of each religion are pretty shocking and disgusting in their ways.

So they're real Muslims that take the Koran's stupidity literally and don't let women be alone with strange men. A real Christian takes the Bible's stupidity literally doesn't allow women to braid their hair or wear jewelry.

You have stupidity that tastes like chicken, or stupidity that tastes like goat. Take your pick.
 
2005-06-02 06:12:51 PM  
passthedutchie

LOL, no man. Totally sober.
 
2005-06-02 06:14:14 PM  
One would *think* that the western Left, womens' groups (NOW), and other human rights organizations would be in a continual state of outrage against gender discrimination based on religion.

You know, Fundamentalist Islam is the epitome of ultra Religious Conservatism and certainly doesn't have any love for Athiests and Social Liberals. They hate you too.

Try thinking about that next time you Lefties are jumping the gun to slam America.
 
2005-06-02 06:15:15 PM  
A real Christian takes the Bible's stupidity literally doesn't allow women to braid their hair or wear jewelry.

What exactly is a "real" Christian?
 
2005-06-02 06:16:11 PM  
jst3p: What exactly is a "real" Christian?

One you can see?
 
2005-06-02 06:16:50 PM  
"The uproar may be astounding to outsiders."

no, it's not astounding at all. after all, they allowed women to burn to death when a school caught fire because they didn't want them to have inappropriate contact with men, not to mention that they might not be properly covered up. nope, better to bar the exits and let them all die. yep, that Islam is one heck of a religion, ain't it?
 
2005-06-02 06:17:30 PM  
Saint Awesome

Ah well, that's too bad. It's all good.

But you should be!
 
2005-06-02 06:17:41 PM  
svejker_14

Isn't the United State of America a bunch of ignorant bastard?



You forgot to pluralize State and bastard. Idiot.
 
2005-06-02 06:18:00 PM  
jst3p: What exactly is a "real" Christian?

Someone who obeys all of the rules in the Bible, not just the ones they find convinient.
 
2005-06-02 06:18:31 PM  
stuberto
You know, Fundamentalist Islam is the epitome of ultra Religious Conservatism and certainly doesn't have any love for Athiests and Social Liberals. They hate you too.


Exactly! Now do you understand why libs spend so much time and energy trying to keep religion and government seperated here?
 
2005-06-02 06:19:31 PM  
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/old
//almost stale
///but still obvious
 
2005-06-02 06:20:53 PM  
Spaceman came down to answer some things. The world gathered round from paupers to kings. I'll answer your questions I'll answer them true. I'll show you the way. You'll know what to do. Who is wrong and who is right? Yellow, brown, black or white. The spaceman he answered you no longer mind. I've opened your eyes, you're now color blind
 
2005-06-02 06:21:48 PM  
Webgrunt that is why I'd be impressed.

Seriously, I'm just waiting for the earth to implode upon itself due to the complete and utter uselessness of human's.
 
2005-06-02 06:23:53 PM  
Webgrunt:

I believe these are the same people cut the clitorises off baby girls so that when they grow up they don't get too much pleasure from sex, which I guess would make them so sex-crazed they would have to be locked in a cage to keep from farking every guy in the world.


I think that's mostly Africa, as in sub-sahara Africa.
 
2005-06-02 06:24:10 PM  

Someone who obeys all of the rules in the Bible, not just the ones they find convinient.


That's a start, although it would help to understand that some of the rules are not for gentiles, nor are they all to be taken literally. The Bible is more than a list of rules and Christianity is not a code to live by, but a way of life.

I just thought it was interesting that some farker feels he knows what a "real" Christian is and uses an example that is completely out of context.
 
2005-06-02 06:25:05 PM  
whidbey [TotalFark]

One you can see?


Very nice.

*golf clap*
 
2005-06-02 06:26:24 PM  
BrotherAlpha why does a person have to follow all the rules all the time to be considered a Christian?

One cannot say it is hypocritical if I sin, we are sinners and God recoginizes this. We are absolved of sin by the Grace of God, not the "Okie Dokie, he's a good guy" from some poster on Fark.
 
2005-06-02 06:27:57 PM  
More of the Same: hypocritical

Tho shall't not be a hypocrite should have been one of the big 10.
 
2005-06-02 06:28:37 PM  
BrotherAlpha: So you'd stone a woman to death?

If however the charge is true and no proof of the girls virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death..." Deuteronomy 22:13-21.

That's a biblical law. There's actually more, but I won't bore you.
 
2005-06-02 06:29:15 PM  
Forms of Misogyny

There are many different forms of misogyny. In its most overt expression, a misogynist will openly hate all women, and will hurt people simply because they are female. Some rapists and sexual predators fall into this category.

Other forms of misogyny may be more subtle. Some misogynists may simply hold all women under suspicion, or may hate women who don't fall into one or more acceptable categories.
...
Wiki'd it.

Sounds like many of the posters in here.

/Waiting for all the guys that proudly proclaim their sexism, chauvinism or misogyny to speak up :-P
 
2005-06-02 06:30:33 PM  
as long as them wimmins are 18-30 and topless...
 
2005-06-02 06:31:31 PM  
Some misogynists may simply hold all women under suspicion

I thought this might qualify me, but in thinking about it I hold all people, men and women, under suspicion. Guess I am just cynical.
 
2005-06-02 06:32:46 PM  
Smallberries

Tho shall't not be a hypocrite should have been one of the big 10.

So are we talking about certain persons or are we talking about all Christians? I just want to know what kind of bias I working with here?
 
2005-06-02 06:32:54 PM  
One would *think* that the western Left, womens' groups (NOW), and other human rights organizations would be in a continual state of outrage against gender discrimination based on religion.

yep, it's a mystery, isn't it? we're still waiting for NOW to get pissed about Clinton's sexual harassment of Monica Lewinsky. of course, we're also waiting for the western Left and other human rights organizations to get pissed about Saddam's mass graves, rape rooms, etc....
 
2005-06-02 06:34:11 PM  
[image from madgecko.com too old to be available]

"Finally, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, a man allowed his 8-year-old daughter to take the wheel of his car, and an accident ensued that damaged seven other cars and injured six people. Which once again proves my theory: Women can't drive!"
 
2005-06-02 06:35:03 PM  
we're still waiting for NOW to get pissed about Clinton's sexual harassment of Monica Lewinsky. of course,

Wait, I thought what Monica did was empowering...

Isn't it a good thing for women when they are sexually aggressive?
 
2005-06-02 06:35:24 PM  
More of the Same:

So are we talking about certain persons or are we talking about all Christians?

The big 10 is in the OLD book. Thus it applied to Jews as well. (Although in Hebrew its a different 10, but don't get me started).
 
2005-06-02 06:35:54 PM  
jst3p: Isn't it a good thing for women when they are sexually aggressive?


Yes.
 
2005-06-02 06:36:43 PM  
jst3p:

Wait, I thought what Monica did was empowering...

Isn't it a good thing for women when they are sexually aggressive?



shiat, we agree again. I don't see Monica as the hurt one, not until Ken Star and Linda Trip came along.
 
2005-06-02 06:38:30 PM  
Webgrunt:

Did you know that in some predominantly Muslim countries, it's legal to kill your wife and her lover if and when you catch them together? The law says that at that moment when you first catch them, you are in a state of temporary insanity and cannot be held accountable. If you wait a while, though, then it's illegal again.

SA is a farked up place, but this is a very nice law. We should adopt it.
 
2005-06-02 06:42:15 PM  
PopeBenedictXVI - you are the best pope ever. Into funky porn and not above a little homocide. I might have to give the good old Church of Rome another look.
 
2005-06-02 06:42:19 PM  
shiat, we agree again. I don't see Monica as the hurt one, not until Ken Star and Linda Trip came along.

One of us is obviously a bad influence on the other.

I read that she told her friends before she left for D.C. that she was going there to get her "Presidental Kneepads".

Sounds like she got what she wanted. Sounds like he did to.

I don't see either of them as being "the hurt one" honestly. They both had to put up with a lot of crap afterward, but that's pain they brought upon themselves.

I will say I thought she was kinda hot after she had been in the spotlight for a few months and trimmed down.
 
2005-06-02 06:43:24 PM  
jst3p

I thought this might qualify me, but in thinking about it I hold all people, men and women, under suspicion. Guess I am just cynical.

I'm with you there. :-)
 
2005-06-02 06:52:49 PM  
Everyone knows dumb broads can't drive. They'll probably just get into accidents while putting on their makeup anyway.
 
2005-06-02 06:53:42 PM  
stuberto: You know, Fundamentalist Islam is the epitome of ultra Religious Conservatism and certainly doesn't have any love for Athiests and Social Liberals. They hate you too.

Try thinking about that next time you Lefties are jumping the gun to slam America.


Disagreeing with our policies in the Middle East isn't contradictory to my thinking that some of those countries are bass ackwards.
 
2005-06-02 06:58:00 PM  
And religion is teh stupids. Yes, ALL religion, especially YOURS (whatever that may be) and Scientology, which I hesitate to dignify with the label "religion."
 
2005-06-02 07:05:09 PM  
For all the morans on this thread who are bashing women drivers: Why are women's auto insurance premiums LOWER? Could it be that...oh horror! Men are the shiatty drivers? Fark off.
 
2005-06-02 07:05:20 PM  
Not that anyone is still reading this thread, but I thought I would interject my serious take.
I find it amazing how divisive equal rights can be, both politically and religously (although there seems to be a correlation), be it gender rights or racial rights, or even class rights in places like India.
My wife is smarter, more creative, and more generally competant as a person than the vast majority of people (men or women) that I know, yet she would be little better than a slave in SA, or property if some conservative Kansas politicians had their way. Even in her own family, she is considered the black-sheep because she is the only female member of her family that has a job! Yes, in 21st century America, every one of her siblings (4) and her mother either entirely support their wives, or are entirely supported by their husbands, and always have been. It is worth noting (at least it was for me) that her entire family are also fundamentalist Christian conservative Republicans. It is a strange thing, marrying into a family and having more feminist views than any female member of her family.
Whatever makes them happy I suppose. At least they don't stone their women to death anymore.
 
2005-06-02 07:06:58 PM  
Smallberries:

The big 10 is in the OLD book. Thus it applied to Jews as well. (Although in Hebrew its a different 10, but don't get me started).

Hell, there are more than one version in the Bible. In fact, Moses is given replacement tablets after he smashes the first set. The replacement set is almost entirely superstitious bullshiat about idol worship.

At any rate, the focus of Christianity should be the Sermon on the Mount and, more specifically, the Beatitudes. But the Beatitudes tell one what one SHOULD do, not simply a handful of things that one should not do, and that is a much harder code to live by. Therefore you will rarely hear an evangelist speak of the Beatitudes as they advocate liberal beliefs.
 
2005-06-02 07:07:51 PM  
Why did the woman cross the road?


WTF was she doing out of the house? Get back in the kitchen and make me some pie!
 
2005-06-02 07:12:12 PM  
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2005-06-02 07:19:53 PM  
Knock, knock.
Who's there?
A woman driver.
A woman driver who?
A woman driver who broke down, can I use your phone?

Lucky for you this ain't Saudi, toots- dial away!
Thanks!


Honey, where were you?
My car broke down, and I had to use a guy's phone.
Then we had hot stranger sex.

Lucky for you this ain't Saudi!
(sobs)
 
2005-06-02 07:21:28 PM  
You know who the worst drivers are?

Just about everyone. More and more retards of any gender and/or ethnicity are appearing on the roadways.

Some suffer from a lack of confidence in driving. Others suffer from excessive overconfidence in their driving abilities. Barely anyone pays attention to the road, opting instead to screw with the radio, put on make-up, shave with a straight razor, eat breakfast, or read the paper while they drive (it's amazing what you see when you actually pay attention to the road and to the drivers around you).

Shiatty driving is not gender-specific. This law is simply retarded, and so is anyone placing the woes of driving squarely on a single portion of the population.
 
2005-06-02 07:22:36 PM  
SA is a farked up place, but this is a very nice law. We should adopt it

we did (I think) and no big surprise, it's in Texas.
 
2005-06-02 07:31:22 PM  
Chumming for Kraken:

Whatever makes them happy I suppose. At least they don't stone their women to death anymore.

Well it has been a long week.
 
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