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(CNN)   Al Qaeda's No. 3 man, earlier reduced to copy boy, has been upgraded to No. 3 again and is being shipped to the U.S. -- or maybe not   ( cnn.com) divider line
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2005-06-01 11:57:45 AM  
Sorry NineInchNader, would really suck to get beat out by this guy for human:

[image from img96.echo.cx too old to be available]
 
2005-06-01 11:59:19 AM  
snorkblaster --
"Everyone who disagrees with you is stupid or, more likely, stupid and mean-spirited with an evil motive."


You left out dukefluke's position.

Sleeps with Osama and will jump on anyone making fun of him.
 
2005-06-01 12:01:27 PM  
I think this thread could be improved with more cowbell.

And, of course, yelling in unison.
"They suck and steal ears!"
"Them have good reasons to hate us!"
Cowbell 2x
"They all look alike."
Cowbell again.
"I hate them, and they can burn in oil."
Rim shot off the cowbell.
"I am right, you are wrong!"
Slam the cowbell hard, repetively.

Ok everyone now...
 
2005-06-01 12:02:56 PM  
Sorry NineInchNader, would really suck to get beat out by this guy for human:

I dunno. Probably cuter than the picture I used for me. Probably gets more tail, too.
 
2005-06-01 12:03:00 PM  
binnster: I found the guy who was making those claims:

Wow, one guy is responsible for all the conspiracy theories over there? I'll be damned.
 
2005-06-01 12:04:10 PM  
Now we force him to talk. any other suggestions?

[image from tshirthell.com too old to be available]
 
2005-06-01 12:04:11 PM  
bbcrackmonkey


Wow, one guy is responsible for all the conspiracy theories over there? I'll be damned.



I hear he's Al Qaeda's number 3 man!
 
2005-06-01 12:04:28 PM  
Civil_War2_Time:

Let's see...

1) Gore would've done EVERYTHING right after the 9/11 attacks, since he DID win the election (aka popular vote), and did SO much to prevent the attacks from ever happening


Could he have done any worse?

2) Bush IS an idiot who lusts after oil, and lied about EVERYTHING before and since 9/11...and IS behind the 9/11 attacks because he knows structural engineering and that those towers were the perfect target for the start of his NWO

Bush IS an oil man and so are most of the administration. He's been caught in a number of lies and you Bush toadies still think he's the greatest. I don't know of anybody who thinks that Bush is behind the 9/11 attacks. Most people just question what he did before, DURING and after, and that is not the same thing as thinking he's behind them. Of course, if you only listen to Rush and Savage, anybody who questions Bush is a loony and EVERY conspiracy theory out there is part of the mainstream left.

3) The UN did NOTHING wrong during the sanctioning period (aka OfF Scandal), and Kofi and France's hands are COMPLETELY clean of all wrongdoing

Who said that? Nobody. But, isn't it odd that this came up when the committee was reporting no WMD. Why the huge uproar about Oil for Food and no uproar about no WMD??

4) Osama NEVER had ANY contact with an Iraqi official EVER

Nobody ever said that, either. The point is that there isn't some big conspiracy where Saddam is responsible for 9/11 and that was a good reason for invading Iraq. Are you deliberately being dense?

5) GITMO IS a torture haven, and there ARE Quran's in the toilets

Torture has been documented at Gitmo. A US General has admitted that the Koran was mistreated. But, Newsweek IS the reason the whole Mideast hates us. It has NOTHING to do with Bush's policies.

6) America IS an evil empire, and WILL impose our will without regard to human life OR international laws

Again, who said that? It's your hero Bush who is going around calling people EVIL EMPIRES, isn't it?

7) If you drive an SUV, you ARE an envorinmental terrorist, and thus pose as much a threat to your neighbors as the REAL terrorists

Again, nobody said that. People have said that you must have a small penis if you need to drive this giant car.

Fark 101: Repeat ad nauseum, until thread is filled...

Since most of this stuff was just made up by you, I don't think anyone else will repeat it.
 
2005-06-01 12:06:19 PM  
dukefluke:

You might start with the gentlemen in the photo posted in this thread:

2005-06-01 09:16:03 AM

Work your way down the food chain from there.

but it's fun to point out the inconsistencies/gaping holes in their arguments

You haven't fared well at all, but I'm glad you're having fun.
 
2005-06-01 12:06:33 PM  
Binnster,

"For years, too, the governmentaped by the state-owned presshas been denouncing Western imperialism, Western conspiracies and Western influences, blaming them for everything from aphrodisiacal chewing gum to Satanism, and fanning short-lived national hysterias. This all fit well with the anti-Western ideological proclivities of Islamist organizations.

National newspapers even now are reporting the suspicion that the Luxor massacre might have been caused by the American CIA or Israeli Mossad to punish Egypt for refusing to attend the Doha regional economic conference with Israel or to join in an armed coalition against Iraq. President Mubarak is also pointing an accusatory finger at Britain for providing refuge for leaders of Egypt's most troublesome Islamic groups, Gama'a Al-Islamiya and Jihad, as well as at Pakistan and Afghanistan. Gama'a Al-Islamiya has claimed responsibility for the slaughter in Luxor."
 
2005-06-01 12:07:02 PM  
binnster: I hear he's Al Qaeda's number 3 man!

You mean, like, the new one?
 
2005-06-01 12:08:48 PM  
Colgate, you know, if you're going to quote something like that, it's best that you also provide, oh I dunno, the LINK, or possibly maybe a SOURCE?
 
2005-06-01 12:09:21 PM  
dukefluke: Oh, incidentally, "kill them before they kill us" - that's just murder, bright boy.

So... you can't defend yourself until you're already dead? If their murderous intent is clear, why can't you fight back to save your own life. That makes no sense.
 
2005-06-01 12:10:50 PM  
bbcrackmonkey:

He doesn't look "very unpromiscuous" to me, neutered or no.
 
2005-06-01 12:11:43 PM  
I think a lot of confusion and/or obfuscation can be cleared up in this thread if we simply insert "members of Al-Qaeda and/or other Islamic terrorist groups" when people say "them, they, those guys" etc.
 
2005-06-01 12:11:59 PM  
[image from us.movies1.yimg.com too old to be available]

Al-Libbi, it's an important job. I need someone I can trust. You... are my number three... guy!
 
2005-06-01 12:12:48 PM  
ZipBeep

Shut up Zippy. I dislike Bush, but I wouildn't kill him like you probably would.

If you could make an educated guess about anything I stated, and you're on Fark more than once a day...you'd see that those are the central themes of these threads.

I only read two of your responses to sense how much of an idiot you are for not reading my profile to see that I don't support him in any way.
 
2005-06-01 12:13:22 PM  
Phil Herup

Me libertarian too.


That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. Many conservatives think they're libertarians until someone informs them of their policies.

/They want to legalize WHAT?
 
2005-06-01 12:13:35 PM  
bbcrackmonkey I think a lot of confusion and/or obfuscation can be cleared up in this thread if we simply insert "members of Al-Qaeda and/or other Islamic terrorist groups" when people say "them, they, those guys" etc.

Ok, then how do we over-generalize Bush supporters, and Libs?
 
2005-06-01 12:23:23 PM  
I_C_Weener: Ok, then how do we over-generalize Bush supporters, and Libs?

Well, for foreigners, I always liked the ring of "Foreign Devil", or, for UKers, "Redcoats". For American Democrat voters, "Freedom Haters" or "Pussies". I suppose "Demoncrats" is ok too if you are religiously inclined. For Bush supporters, either "Republithugs" or "Bush Fellaters".
 
2005-06-01 12:24:44 PM  
This thread is loaded with a lot of dumb nonsense related to accusations of racism vs. anyone who makes a statement about muslm extremists. Why?
Arresting terrorists is not a political issue, nor should be respecting human rights when interrogating them, etc.

Also, there is absolutely no controversy in saying that, in certain arab countries, state-run media outlets and state-sanctioned schools promote an anti-american feeling and the idea that Americans and/or Jews were behind september 11th.


" Management and coordination of these attacks would have needed a long period of study and planning which would have been impossible unless some people inside the United States had cooperated and even masterminded the incidents . . . These attacks would have been impossible without the cooperation of some elements inside the security forces of the United States."

- Abbas Maleki, director of the Caspian Sea Studies Office, quoted in an article in Tehran Times.com, Iranian newspaper, October 22, 2001, entitled "September 11 attacks impossible without help of U.S. groups."

"Osama bin Laden and those with him have said what indicates that they stand behind this carefully planned act. We, in turn, ask: Are bin Laden and his supporters the only ones behind what happened or is there another power with advanced technical expertise that acted with them?"

- Prince Sultan, Saudi's Defense Minister, in an interview published in Kuwait's as-Seyassah newspaper, October 22, 2001 (Reuters)

"Anti-terrorism efforts should not sideline efforts to identify the psychological and political roots of this phenomenon. U.S. officials intend to define terrorism as a phenomenon unrelated to U.S. policies and limit to the hard-line Islamic groups. Consequently, the U.S. is trying to evade its responsibilities in creating this phenomenon. Currently, there are two sorts of terrorism in the world. First, state-sponsored terrorism, the best of which in the world is the Zionist regime which is supported by the U.S. and the UK. Over the past fifty years, the Zionist regime has been the main source of disorder and insecurity in the Arab World."

- The Tehran Times.com, Iranian newspaper, October 16, 2001, fabricating a quote of former U.S. National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski.

"I don't think it would be contentious to say that the unprecedented disaster witnessed by New York and Washington the day before yesterday was planned and executed by American citizens. The list of potential perpetrators resentful on American foreign policy is tediously long, but there is plenty of evidence to suggest that neither the Palestinians nor the Serbs were implicated . . . Those who violated the quintessential symbols of the most powerful country in the world - the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, the White House - could not have been Palestinians, who are in no position to contemplate, let alone implement, anything more than acts of sabotage designed to pressure America to alter its unfair Middle East policy"

- Al-Ahram Weekly Online, Egyptian newspaper, September 13-19, 2001, article entitled "An Inside Job?" by Salah Montasser

"There is a possibility that this was an [act of] ancient retribution The US declared war on Japan, and used the atomic bomb for the first time, against Hiroshima and Nagasaki. [The bomb] killed more than 221,983 Japanese, and was the cause of the Japanese defeat and the end of the war in 1945. Has the tragedy of Hiroshima and Nagasaki been resurrected sixty years later?"

- Tishrin, Syrian newspaper, September 13, 2001, by columnist Hassan M, Yussef (MEMRI, September 20, 2001, No. 270)

"[Perhaps] the perpetrators of the attack belong to local American militias It could also be that they are young people who hacked into the computer directing internal air traffic and aimed the airplanes at painful targets"

- Al-Safir, Lebanese newspaper, September 12, 2001, by columnist Nur Al-Din Sat'e (MEMRI, September 20, 2001, No. 270)

 
2005-06-01 12:26:20 PM  
The Saint of Killers:

Me libertarian too.

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. Many conservatives think they're libertarians until someone informs them of their policies.

/They want to legalize WHAT?



I am fully aware of the libertarian philosophy/policy.

/If that is the funniest thing you've heard all day you need help.
 
2005-06-01 12:29:59 PM  
This just in: you should still be scared. terrorists still hate your freedom and want to blow you up. that is all.
 
2005-06-01 12:31:21 PM  
Animatronik:

Also, there is absolutely no controversy in saying that, in certain arab countries, state-run media outlets and state-sanctioned schools promote an anti-american feeling and the idea that Americans and/or Jews were behind september 11th.


And that in certain Western countries, the Government, Media and State funded schools promote an anti-Arab feeling and the idea that Iraqis and/or Iranians/Syrians/Palestinans were behind September 11th.
 
2005-06-01 12:32:01 PM  
"White Collar"? That face analysis website is incredible! How did it know that dog was wearing a white flea collar?

SHOCKING!
 
2005-06-01 12:34:12 PM  
2005-06-01 08:56:43 AM binnster [TotalFark]

Pakistan now knows that Osama takes two sugars in his coffee.

I don't know about that, but we do know that he likes macaroni and cheese.
 
2005-06-01 12:34:53 PM  
bbcrackmonkey,

What Animatronik said.
 
2005-06-01 12:35:35 PM  
Civil_War2_Time:

Let's see...

yes, let's...

1) Gore would've done EVERYTHING right after the 9/11 attacks, since he DID win the election (aka popular vote), and did SO much to prevent the attacks from ever happening

absurd absolute, who thinks that anyone would have done everything right. And neither Clinton nor Bush gave enough credence to the threat of Al Quaeda inside the United States, so pointing fingers is an exercize in stupidity.

2) Bush IS an idiot who lusts after oil, and lied about EVERYTHING before and since 9/11...and IS behind the 9/11 attacks because he knows structural engineering and that those towers were the perfect target for the start of his NWO

Most people (hell, even a good portion of people who voted for him) think he's not the brightest bulb. The fact that he can't pronounce fairly simple words, and resorts to makng up words on a whim don't speak volumes for him.

He has set precedent and has connections to those who have a great interest in oil. Denying or negating that fact is your prerogative.

There have been some huge mistakes that have come to light that have resulted in a full scale war and thousands of dead, as well as hundreds of billions of dollars spent. If he wasn't lying about his knowledge of some things, then he is arguably the most imcompetent president to sit in the White House, at least in this century. Your call.

As for being behind 9-11, only kooks say shiat like that and they represent a tiny, whiney minority. There are a greater amount of people who are under the impression that the administration has milked the events of 9-11 after the fact to promote the ideals and blueprints for his NWO (actually I believe its now called "NAC"), but whatever.

3) The UN did NOTHING wrong during the sanctioning period (aka OfF Scandal), and Kofi and France's hands are COMPLETELY clean of all wrongdoing

Nobody said they did nothing wrong. Some people have said that the wrongdoing is neither here nor there in justifying the invasion and occupation of another nation, and thus is being thrown out as a red herring. Not the same as saying the parts of said red herring aren't true, just not relevant to the case at hand.

4) Osama NEVER had ANY contact with an Iraqi official EVER

No, pretty much everyone knows he did. Osama had contact with US CIA officials too. Wanna start making generalizations about how our intelligence agencies are in bed with Islamic fundamentalists?

5) GITMO IS a torture haven, and there ARE Quran's in the toilets

You can make sweeping generalizations to belittle the accusations til you are blue in the face. They are still there, documented, and slowly being released via the FOIA.

6) America IS an evil empire, and WILL impose our will without regard to human life OR international laws

Well, we do dismiss international laws as part of our protocol. We have gone so far as to deny foreign aid to any country that attempts to hold the United States accountable to international law. That's not tin-foil hat...that's US legislation. As for the other stuff, um, who goes around labeling countries as "evil" again?

7) If you drive an SUV, you ARE an envorinmental terrorist, and thus pose as much a threat to your neighbors as the REAL terrorists

whatever, that makes no relevancy and no sense...its as silly as the government sponsored commercials that compared a kid smoking a joint to a financier to an international terrorist.

Fark 101: Repeat ad nauseum, until thread is filled...

let me know how it goes...
 
2005-06-01 12:35:45 PM  
buntz -
1. i agree that that is a crime
2. however, that doesnt mean that the initial US invasion was any less of a crime. (and dont say that it was self-defense)
3. Had the invasion never happened neither would the crime have happened.
4. It could be regarded by some as part of the iraqi struggle for freedom .. theres a thin line between freedom fighter and terrorist. just for reference im an indian and i dont consider those who killed englishmen during our occupation (bhagat singh and others) as terrorist, but as freedom fighters.
5. that was a petty crime , the US invasion and its aftermath has killed over 100,000 that was just a few ppl...
6. hence the US crime was bigger
 
2005-06-01 12:36:34 PM  
Anyone else get the impression that the hearts of Fark's resident flame warriors (on both sides) just aren't in it anymore?

/Could this be the end of Fark?
 
2005-06-01 12:40:12 PM  
sigdiamond2000:

Anyone else get the impression that the hearts of Fark's resident flame warriors (on both sides) just aren't in it anymore?
/Could this be the end of Fark?


fark forums quit being intelligent/humorous a long time ago. now they are only interesting in that they show how absolutely uneducated and outright stupid the 20something generation is.
 
2005-06-01 12:40:30 PM  
Wow, according to this website, the UN has been chastising Israel for decades and decades. 31 times, not including all the times the US vetoed the resolution (as sole dissenter), which apparently doubles it.

We really should have invaded Israel and removed their leaders from power long ago, so that we could spread "Freedom 'n Democracy (tm)" to the Israeli people.
 
2005-06-01 12:40:34 PM  
willywanka

I am astonished that ANYONE with even Shiavo's brain couldn't see the sarcasm within my p-o-st. Do you actually believe I would think those things moran? You've been a Farker for longer than I have, and you can't see now, or have not been able to see that these are the generalizations that are made by the lunatic fringes of both sides in nearly every one of these right-left flamewars?

Wow. I can't believe another person is that stupid, but I guess it's true what they say...
 
2005-06-01 12:41:56 PM  
sigdiamond2000 Anyone else get the impression that the hearts of Fark's resident flame warriors (on both sides) just aren't in it anymore?

Is it the return of reason, or lack of good material (slow news days)?

Stay tuned.
 
2005-06-01 12:42:51 PM  
It's all their fault.
 
2005-06-01 12:45:36 PM  
Phil Herrup

It's been a slow day :(
 
2005-06-01 12:46:18 PM  
2005-06-01 12:34:12 PM elchip

2005-06-01 08:56:43 AM binnster [TotalFark]

Pakistan now knows that Osama takes two sugars in his coffee.
________________

I don't know about that, but we do know that he likes macaroni and cheese.


I guess that means we can expect a boycott of Osama by the American Family Association, what with him being "in bed" with known radical homosexual terrorists.
 
2005-06-01 12:46:26 PM  
Osama and his terrorist "network" are creations of the CIA. He is probably in a safe house waiting for his next assignment.
 
2005-06-01 12:49:44 PM  
Civil_War2_Time

willywanka

I am astonished that ANYONE with even Shiavo's brain couldn't see the sarcasm within my p-o-st.


Sarcasm doesn't always translate well on fark flame threads.

Do you actually believe I would think those things moran?

Not you in particular, but there are plenty out there.

You've been a Farker for longer than I have, and you can't see now, or have not been able to see that these are the generalizations that are made by the lunatic fringes of both sides in nearly every one of these right-left flamewars?

No, they were the (hyperbolic) generalizations made by the lunatic fringe of ONE side: the left. Tell me where you made ANY reference to right-wing extremism in that p-o-s-t. You didn't mention the other side. Thus, your "sarcasm" comes off as just another right wing rant. If two reasonably rational people mistook you for a troll, maybe the problem doesn't lie in our interpretations?

Wow. I can't believe another person is that stupid, but I guess it's true what they say...

Hey, I've actually always been pretty congenial with you. You want to make those types of comments, go ahead, but it comes off a bit arrogant.
 
2005-06-01 12:55:01 PM  
The Saint of Killers: Phil Herrup

It's been a slow day :(



Oh you are the bright light of the internet. Under 25 and a know it all.
 
2005-06-01 01:04:07 PM  
I would argue any of these points, but face analyzer tells me I am an unargumentative type who shuns academics and artists in favor of charmers, and I don't like to make waves at work, and am envious of my boss.

Also, now I'm a girl, apparently.

All this despite the fact I work at a college, am a journalist, and anchor a daily news shift. And I have regularly told my non-journalist boss to STFU and let me do my job.

Been to the board room a time or two, I have.
 
2005-06-01 01:05:42 PM  
willywanka

My comments were to fill in the void of the lack of respondants, who would've at some point, if this reached infinity as most do...nearly all of those generalizations would've been made at one point or another.

Moreover, you seeing only a left-slant in them is you're own personal bias protruding. You saw what you wanted to see, and replied according to how you think. (Not that there's anything wrong with that)

Fark is a left-slanting haven, and I don't have a problem with that, obviously, or I wouldn't be in here BS-ing. I do, however, take offense to being painted red (as a Texan), and that's where the sarcasm came into my comments. If you were not so quick to quable with the right, you would see that there's humor out there, and you'd have refrained from connecting me with anything right-wing at all.

You're forgiven.
 
2005-06-01 01:07:04 PM  
nerfball
fark forums quit being intelligent/humorous a long time ago. now they are only interesting in that they show how absolutely uneducated and outright stupid the 20something generation is.

"Ah, in my day, we had to walk ten miles to get to a Wi-Fi connection... and when Fark went down, you had to kill a mule and use its innards to rewire Fark's server..."
 
2005-06-01 01:07:26 PM  
Phil Herup

Oh you are the bright light of the internet. Under 25 and a know it all.


Not under 25. And thanks, I AM the bright light of the intraweb.
 
2005-06-01 01:16:56 PM  
(The preview shows the image, so if this is the only thing you see, I'll be mad...)
 
2005-06-01 01:18:28 PM  
Clavis:

"Ah, in my day, we had to walk ten miles to get to a Wi-Fi connection... and when Fark went down, you had to kill a mule and use its innards to rewire Fark's server..."

it seems gresham's law also applies to intelligent discourse. to quote nerfball's law of the internet, 'idiots screaming will cause intelligent conversation to cease.' thus, we have the current status of life as we know it. that being said, it is sometimes interesting to see how people interact. that, and to see just how stupid some people are. i blame it on bush.
 
2005-06-01 01:19:42 PM  
I'm initially shocked when I read some of the stupidity and lack of perspective here, but then I remember that they stopped teaching history in public schools--so I'm not shocked anymore. =[

/China recently moved their insta-executions of mis-behavers into execution-vans! -- Unimportant: we put panties on a guys head--KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE PRIZE.
 
2005-06-01 01:21:30 PM  
Plain text if image doesn't show up (even tho it does in the preview): http://img85.echo.cx/img85/1853/bullshiat1wp.jpg
 
2005-06-01 01:30:12 PM  
Nerfball

Ah, I'm just playing with you. I attempt to engage in worthy discourse. Someone seems to have appreciated it, too, since they anonymously bought me a 1-month TotalFark subscription. Woo hoo! Somebody loves me!

[image from joe-ks.com too old to be available]
 
2005-06-01 01:30:17 PM  
Civil_War2_Time:

ZipBeep

Shut up Zippy. I dislike Bush, but I wouildn't kill him like you probably would.

If you could make an educated guess about anything I stated, and you're on Fark more than once a day...you'd see that those are the central themes of these threads.

I only read two of your responses to sense how much of an idiot you are for not reading my profile to see that I don't support him in any way.



Again, where did I say I wanted to kill Bush? That would be crazy.

So, why would post things that only slam people who question Bush's plans and deceptions??

You come up with all kinds of bullshiat; I refute every single one of them; and all you can say is "Shut up" and "You're an idiot" Who are you, Bill O'Reilly???

You are, aren't you? Bill O'Reilly also thinks he's fair and balanced.

/willywanka is an idiot too? Because he questioned your bullshiat? I guess everybody who questions your bullshiat is an idiot.
 
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