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2005-05-31 06:18:04 PM
Well, guess what. Wash Post has confirmed. This'll be the deal.

I'll bet B&W are pissed they aren't going to make any money off this anymore.
 
2005-05-31 06:21:54 PM
re: JImmy James (Stephen Root)

He was both DB Cooper AND Deep Throat.

"If I am not, then may the REAL Deep Throat come forward... Yeah, i didn't think so!"
 
2005-05-31 06:23:09 PM
I'm going to send flowers to this guys funeral. He's done a great service for his country.
BTW, you can't shiat on Nixon's grave, I've found out: they watch it too closely.
 
2005-05-31 06:33:06 PM
satyricrash
Adam West was DB Cooper
 
2005-05-31 06:35:37 PM
2005-05-31 12:44:06 PM Occams_Electric_Razor


Once in awhile it's good to be reminded of the good old days when people saw actual danger in an Imperial Presidency.


The good old days? The good old days? Felt was convicted in the 1970s for authorizing illegal break-ins at homes of people associated with the radical Weather Underground. He was pardoned by President Reagan in 1981.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=1&u=/ap/20050531/ap_on_re_us/d eep_throat

So, this guy is a hero, and a part of "the good old days"? The same guy that, on behalf of the government, ordered illegal break-ins of the homes of those simply associated with a group that was against the Vietnam War and southern subjugation of blacks?

The good old days? Why dont you go ahead and count all the things a liberal holds dear. Now time warp to 1970 and tell me how may of them you are entitled to, in that America.

I suggest going back as gay, black, and pregnant with an unwanted baby. Or you could go back as a low income male teen. Maybe get drafted into Vietnam.

Yea, 1970. the good old days. Pfft.

Here is a little test for all the take everything you have for granted liberals:

Pick anytime in history when the rights of todays modern liberal (be non-white for the sake of argument) would have been greater.

Things like abortion, equal opportunity, tolerance of homosexuals, natural resource management. rights for minorities, women, children, the disabled. Think of all the things important to liberals and tell me when in history it was better.

Ready.Set.Go.
 
2005-05-31 06:41:12 PM
Another Brian Peppers sighting in an unrelated thread.

Badger you are one tricksy little hobbit.
 
2005-05-31 06:48:10 PM
"I suggest going back as gay, black, and pregnant with an unwanted baby. Or you could go back as a low income male teen. Maybe get drafted into Vietnam."

Whatever form you decide to take...please find my parents, and give them a letter addressed to me, telling me to invest heavily in Dell and Microsoft in the late 80's.

Or a copy of Grey's Sports Almanac...either would be fine.
 
2005-05-31 07:03:04 PM
SacMan: and what the hell was that weird taste in that cheesburger I ate yesterday?

"It's for a cop"

"Don't spit in that burger for the cop"
 
2005-05-31 07:08:14 PM
I don't regard him as a "hero" but agree that Nixon's crimes needed to be exposed.

Felt had longed to be FBI director himself but was passed over by Nixon for a White House insider. Aside from his personal ambitions, he and FBI insiders had been adamant that someone from within the FBI get the top job. They were beside themselves that the White House now knew everything the FBI knew (it had kept its "independence" under Hoover in part by spying on presidents and politicians, according to published reports).

Certainly Felt wasn't revolted by the concept of political break-ins-- he himself was later convicted, along with Deputy Associate FBI Director Edward S. Miller, of illegally ordering break-ins in the early '70s in search of fugitive members of the radical Weather Underground. He was pardoned by Reagan 5 months after his trial (March 1981).

I don't see him as a hero-- I see him as a bureaucrat, fighting mainly to protect turf, who outed a bigger criminal while he was up to his ears in the exact same kind of crime.
 
2005-05-31 07:10:31 PM


Watch the movie.
 
2005-05-31 07:21:59 PM
I hereby request that the name of the sexual act known as "Deep Throat" be changed.

Because now, every time I do it/my boyfriend requests it, I'll have this man on my mind.
 
2005-05-31 07:24:04 PM
wth is up with the five NEWS stories on the main page?

Bob Woodward confirms Deep Throat's identity (8)
Washington Post confirms that yes, that guy is Deep Throat (2)
Woodward confims 'Deep Throat' - See Washington Post (1)
Washington Post confirms Mark Felt is Deep Throat (2)
Bob Woodward has Confirmed: Felt is "Deep Throat". LGN DIT (19)

... like we care

I woulda posted this in one of them but I get either
"That article is no longer available."
or
"This article is only available to TotalFark subscribers."

self-farked? :s
 
2005-05-31 07:27:36 PM


Meant to be part of my previous comment.

pretya
every time I do it/my boyfriend requests it, I'll have this man on my mind.
 
2005-05-31 07:30:03 PM
Wanted for, uh, questioning. Yeah, that's right - questioning.

 
2005-05-31 07:31:35 PM
 
2005-05-31 07:44:43 PM
 
2005-05-31 07:47:24 PM
pretya: I hereby request that the name of the sexual act known as "Deep Throat" be changed.

To what? Felt up?
 
2005-05-31 07:51:36 PM
So, coincidence or tin-foil hat time? Weeks after the Newsweek scandal, when the current neocon talking point is "unnamed sources" as the newest un-American meme, the quintessential good unnamed source comes out, thus removing all the mystique and perfection of the mystery.

Now there is only one famous unnamed source, and he's being blamed for deaths in Afghanistan.

They (Felt and his family, that is) have apparently been discussing this matter for 3 years. His health is failing. And his nurse looks suspiciously like Jeff Gannon in drag! AAAAAHHHHH!!!

 
2005-05-31 08:05:20 PM
barneyfifesbullet

Watergate would never be covered by today's American press. Not salicious enough. Only thing that gets coverage noawadays is related to hetero sex. Just a short list of Watergate-like stories ignored by the "Liberal" media:

- Iraq WMD lies
- 11 BILLION missing in Iraq
- Jeff Gannon's access
- Haliburton sweetheart deals
- Bush AWOL
- reporters paid to push agenda
- Cheney influence on Supreme Court, CIA
- 2 elections stolen
- GOP hacks Dems network

Funny, every one of those (non-) stories has been covered extensively. What planet you been living on that doesn't get CNN and MSNBC and CBS?

And two elections stolen? I know you lefties can't get over the loss of Al Gore's frivolous lawsuit in 2000, but how exactly did Bush steal the election in 2004? LOL.
 
2005-05-31 08:05:43 PM
Clavis: the current neocon talking point is "unnamed sources" as the newest un-American meme

Don't you just love it? "Tell us who you are, American! You have nothing to fear unless you're a freedom-hating terrist. Now then...what information do you have about the government's so-called misdeeds?"
 
2005-05-31 08:13:25 PM
I am happy to see that nobody has yet invoked the Nixon-Smarty-Pants stance.

NSPers like to claim that Nixon was a great president. In fact some of them say the greatest president ever. It makes them feel smart because it's sooooooooo contrarian.
 
2005-05-31 08:14:05 PM
When Deep Throat wanted to meet, the hands of a clock would appear written inside Woodwards copy of The New York Times.

I wonder how he pulled that off?
 
2005-05-31 08:19:29 PM
I lost like...six bets. shiat.
 
2005-05-31 08:59:58 PM
chaoscube
I'm Sparticus!

I am Malcolm X!
Pleased to meet ya, Sparticus. Lemme buy ya a beer!

buwolverine
It does make you wonder how much they knew about Hoover, was he just trying to keep the score even?

Hoover was one weird man. Paranoid? There's lots of strange reading about him and his "life partner".
Not to mention the shredded documents upon his death.

jsteiner78 - 27??!
Well Hell, you're all growed up!
You'd probably understand the feeling if Eminem or Snoop Dogg were to die a mysterious death, and you don't find out the truth 'till 30 years later.

my original post was in response to someone feeling SO important because they were alive and old enough to appreciate the Watergate scandal while it was happening that they had to point it out several times in the thread -

And if you had a farking CLUE how important it was/is to people in this age bracket, you'd understand and lighten up a little. We've been wondering, imagining, debating about this for 30 years.
And there's still a few big ones I want to know.

I think Nixon didn't want to the world to discover that he was an Arlo Guthrie fan.

Nothing quite like beer through the nose...
That has to be one of the funniest things I've read in awhile.
You Win.

caliente! and Captain Awsome (Spelling forgiven...Well, kinda.)
There is hope.
 
2005-05-31 09:11:50 PM
Top Ten Ways to Ensure Your Kid Gets Beat Up on the Playground


10. Name her Orson
 9. Tell him who Deep Throat really was
 8. Got nothin'
 7. Got nothin'
 6. Got nothin'
 5. Got nothin'
 4. Still got nothin'
 3. Still got nothin'
 2. Still got nothin'
 1. Name him Orson
 
2005-05-31 09:17:38 PM


Unavailable for comment
 
2005-05-31 09:54:17 PM
barneyfifesbullet [TotalFark]

Watergate would never be covered by today's American press. Not salicious enough. Only thing that gets coverage noawadays is related to hetero sex. Just a short list of Watergate-like stories ignored by the "Liberal" media:

- Iraq WMD lies
- 11 BILLION missing in Iraq
- Jeff Gannon's access
- Haliburton sweetheart deals
- Bush AWOL
- reporters paid to push agenda
- Cheney influence on Supreme Court, CIA
- 2 elections stolen
- GOP hacks Dems network

the list could go on and on...


Uh, gee, pretty sure I've read volumes about a half dozen of these in the "liberal media."
 
2005-05-31 10:19:38 PM
Nixon was an ass. Having said that, this guy was a little bureaucrat that missed out on his promotion ala Richard Clarke. The family thinks we should hold him in esteem.

This guy and from the looks of it his family are lower than whale shiat.
 
2005-05-31 10:32:20 PM
Boute-en-train:

By your logic on Richard Clarke, Felt's tips were not true because his motivations were suspect.

But we know that Felt's tips were either true, or accurate enough to help others uncover the whole dastardly plan. I've never pretended that Clarke was a wholesome Captain America, but if you apply the Deep Throat Rule (insert, um, joke here) then motivation doesn't matter. The ends justify the means.

Wasn't that the excuse for spending $50 million+ on Whitewater and "Travelgate" only to bust Clinton for lying about a BJ?

To paraphrase Eddie I., you people recognize different levels of murder (capital murder, murder 2, manslaughter), so how can you not recognize different levels of lying (lying about cheating on your wife vs. lying about foreign policy or Iraq's ties to 9/11).

Bang.
 
2005-05-31 10:40:56 PM
Say when we run through the list of likely suspects for deep throat:

Bush, Felt, Kissenger

The joke just write themselves.
 
2005-05-31 10:43:00 PM
thanks chenry, haha, i just watched that newsradio episode last night. i was waiting for that comment
 
2005-05-31 10:45:05 PM
And enough about the "Liberal Media"

Dear god people, get a new line. When we had 3 TV channels and dead tree newspapers I might listen to your complaint. But last I checked between cable and the internet, you can more or less tap into whatever vat of cool aid your heart desires.

Media outlets only print what people want to hear. If you believe in free market Capitalism at all, STFU.
 
2005-05-31 10:51:51 PM
I did a little detective work myself, and found the phone number of deep throat's daughter, with whom he now resides.

707 575 0577.

Good luck getting through, however, I've been trying all day.

Before the FBI or anybody gets involved, this is a listed number.
 
2005-05-31 10:55:09 PM
RossTheHayes:

That's pretty low. Can the mods remove that?

Why not post your own phone number, jackass?
 
2005-05-31 11:00:51 PM
Remember when this was prominent news a few years

Remember this: Deep Throat Uncovered

Even had a DatelineNBC episode dedicated to it.

Moran had his whole U-Illinois investigative reporting class over a few years devoted to it.

Not even any of the 'suspects' were right.

Ha!
 
2005-05-31 11:01:02 PM
Wow, Deep Throat got fingered.
 
2005-05-31 11:03:05 PM
I agree. While the number may be public record, don't post it like an asshole.
 
2005-05-31 11:10:59 PM
"Hey, you're that ninja."
 
2005-05-31 11:21:28 PM
The long and short of it. This guy is a hero. It is people like him working behind the scenes that help keep this country and world from going to hell any faster than it already is.

Let this be an example to all of us.
 
2005-05-31 11:22:17 PM
rocinante721:

Remember when this was prominent news a few years

Remember this: Deep Throat Uncovered


Yes, and look at their conclusion:

After a four-year investigation, students at the Department of Journalism at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign have determined the identity of Deep Throat, the most elusive, anonymous news source in history: Fred Fielding, deputy counsel to former President Richard Nixon.

Oops.
 
2005-05-31 11:23:14 PM
Now we just need to figure out the next greatest mystery .. who is the umbrella man???

 
2005-05-31 11:50:34 PM
Mancomb Seepgood: Now we just need to figure out the next greatest mystery .. who is the umbrella man???

Billy Joel?
 
2005-06-01 12:09:39 AM
In other news, poop stinks
 
2005-06-01 12:09:40 AM

/obscure?
 
2005-06-01 01:23:51 AM
allanhowls
To what? Felt up?

Actually, candidates so far include 'Bruised throat', 'Uvula Banana', and 'XCS'.
 
2005-06-01 01:29:17 AM
Why is this not a "News Flash"?
 
2005-06-01 02:26:57 AM
Let me get this straight. This guy was with the FBI, and he knew about the secrets and corruption. His chosen method to reveal this was to secrectly supply information to a couple reporters???

Now I'd like to hear the story about how he told all this information to all his bosses, and the head of the FBI, and was told to keep his mouth shut... Why stop at the president? Prosecute all the responsible parties.
 
2005-06-01 03:01:58 AM
Jimmy Brown,

Mr. Claymore is not always your friend. Now don't point that at me.
 
2005-06-01 03:19:29 AM
Just a little reminder of the sort of person Mark Felt was ratting out (btw, "Malek," whom Nixon dispatched to root out "disloyal" Jews in government, is Fred Malek, now fronting the leading group seeking to buy the Washington Nationals baseball team):

June 17, 1971: Nixon, Haldeman, and Ronald Ziegler, 2:42-3:33 P.M., Oval Office Conversation #524-7; cassette #775

Nixon: I hope to God - he's not Jewish is he?

Ziegler: [Laughing] I'm sure he is - Ellsberg?

Nixon: I hope not, I hope not.

Haldeman: [unclear] is Jewish. Why the hell wouldn't he be?

Nixon: Oh yeah, I know, I know, I know, but it's, it's, it's, it's a bad thing for us. It's a bad thing for us. It's a bad thing. Maybe we'll be lucky for once. Many Jews in the Communist conspiracy. . . . Chambers and Hiss were the only non-Jews. . . . Many thought that Hiss was. He could have been a half. . . . Every other one was a Jew - and it raised hell for us. But in this case, I hope to God he's not a Jew.

Haldeman: [Laughing] Well, I suspect he is.

Nixon: You can't tell by the name.

Haldeman: Or Halperin. . . . Gelb is -

Nixon: Gelb's a Jew.



July 2, 1971: Nixon, Haldeman, and Rose Mary Woods, 12:25 P.M., Oval Office Conversation #535-23; cassette #867

Nixon: Halperin was a genius. And so is this son-of-a-biatch who stole the documents - a genius. Everybody says that Ellsberg. . . very bright. Woods: That might be, but I mean, I think, part of it - Hitler was a genius.

Nixon: Undoubtedly.

Haldeman: Sure was.

Nixon: So was Judas. Woods: Sure.

Nixon: That's right. Woods: But that doesn't make what they do right. . . .



July 3, 1971: Nixon and Haldeman, 10:41 A.M., Oval Office Conversation #536-16; cassette #871

Nixon: Colson, he's a clever bastard. He had his office call the Bureau of Labor Statistics. . . . Goldstein. . . . I said, "Were they all Jews?" He said, "Yes. Every one of them was a Jew." Malek's not Jewish is he?

Haldeman: No.

Nixon: I want to look at any sensitive areas around, where Jews are involved, Bob. See, the Jews are all through the government. And we have got to get in those areas, we've got to get the man in charge, who is not Jewish, to patrol the Jewish -

Haldeman: [unclear]

Nixon: . . . full of Jews. Second, most Jews are [unclear]. You know what I mean? You have Garment and Kissinger.

Haldeman: And thankfully Safire.

Nixon: But by God, they're exceptions. But Bob, generally speaking, you can't trust the bastards. They turn on us.

Haldeman: And their whole orientation is against this administration anyway. . . . And they're smart. They have the ability to do what they want to do. Which is, to hurt us. . . .

Nixon: Henry doesn't have many Jews. Got this one. . . . . . . .

Haldeman: He's got quite a few. . . . He had Halperin.

Nixon: Yeah, I know. But, you know. . . he's got Haig, his secretary is not Jewish. . . . .

Haldeman: None of his aides have ever been Jewish, even Tony Lake who turned on us. . . .

Nixon: That's right.

Haldeman: But his. . . the young guys, that he's always had. . . .

Nixon: Well Tony Lake always seemed Jewish.

Haldeman: I don't think so. I wondered about that.

Nixon: He looked it.

Haldeman: I know.

July 5, 1971: Nixon, Haldeman, and Ziegler, 4:03 P.M., Oval Office Conversation #537-4; cassette #876

Nixon: Jewish families are close, but there's this strange malignancy that seems to creep among them - radicalism. I can imagine how the fact that Ellsberg is in this must really tear a fella like Henry to pieces - or Garment. Just like the Rosenbergs and all that. It just has to kill them. I feel horrible about it.

Ziegler: Could make up an English name.

Haldeman: . . . Rosenstein could change his name. . . . [general laughter]

Ziegler: It is right. It's always an Ellsberg.

Nixon: Every one's a Jew. Ellsberg's a Jew. Halperin's a Jew.

Haldeman: Gelb's a Jew.

Nixon: But there are [unclear] - Hiss was not a Jew. Very interesting thing. So few of those who engage in espionage - are Negroes. . . . In fact, very few of them become Communists. If they do, they like, they get into Angela Davis - they're more the capitalist type. And they throw bombs and this and that. But the Negroes. - have you ever noticed? . . . . Any Negro spies?

Haldeman: Not intellectual enough, not smart enough. . . not smart enough to be spies.

Nixon: The Jews - the Jews are, are born spies. You notice how many of them are just in up to their necks?

Haldeman: A basic deviousness.
+ + +

Nixon: You can never put, John, any person who is a Jew on a civil rights kind of case, or freedom of the press kind of case, and get even a ten percent chance. . . . Basically, who the hell are these people that stole the papers? It's too bad. I'm sorry. I was hoping one of them would be a gentile. [laughter] [unclear] The three Jews - Gelb - the three suspects. . . . All Jews."

Mitchell: [laughing] Well, at least the Supreme Court yesterday ruled that the Jews couldn't get into a golf club.
 
2005-06-01 03:27:03 AM
Nixon's "secret plan to end the war in Vietnam" was one reason he beat Humphrey in '68. Then he dicked around with southeast Asia for 6 years while 20,000 more US troops were killed. Foreign policy genius.
 
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