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(Chicago Breaking News)   Rooftop viewing of Cubs games in jeopardy thanks to politics   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 109
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2002-04-05 12:37:20 PM
People actually want to watch Cubs games?
 
2002-04-05 12:37:41 PM
this is a follow-up or a repeat. I recall discussing this back in Nov-Dec.
 
2002-04-05 12:37:58 PM
Zoning bylaws in every city are such a racket.
 
2002-04-05 12:38:34 PM
OHMYGODTHECUBSARETHEBESTTEAMWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
 
2002-04-05 12:38:40 PM
stupid?

I read where these "neighbors" (who charge people to view the games on their roofs, which by itself should be illegal) Sued the stadium so they couldn't add some lights or some shiat because it obstructed their view.

Something is very wrong there.

You can't move nextdoor to an outdoor theater, then charge people $5 to sit on your lawn and watch the movies, the sue the theater when they decide to build a concession stand that interferes with your view.
 
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2002-04-05 12:38:48 PM
Crock of shiat rip-off is what it is. Boycott cubbies games until the owners unfark themselves.
 
2002-04-05 12:39:36 PM
is right.
 
2002-04-05 12:39:57 PM
Nothing like watching a game in an old time park like Wrigley....I feel bad for those guys who made livings selling cheap seats! I guess their rent went down
 
2002-04-05 12:40:28 PM
Chicago politics. Learned about that in "Switching Channels" with Burt Reynolds and Kathleen Turner.

I can't see griping about the additions because you couldn't see the games when you have been watching them for free. You got lucky for a few years. It's over now.
 
2002-04-05 12:40:33 PM
I agree, Ironbar, but you ought to check out Houston: no zoning ordinances. Zip. They don't do it. You could wake up one morning, and someone could be tearing down the house next to yours to build a Blockbuster. Which, I guess could be good or bad depending on how much you like to rent movies. Very strange.
 
2002-04-05 12:40:33 PM
Thanks Rteynor, I couldn't possibly make it through a single fark thread without someone claiming one of 3 things:

1. this is a repeat
2. I submitted this earlier, what gives?
3. this should have a ***** tag.
 
2002-04-05 12:40:44 PM
Fb-

You mean, *not* go to Wrigley? Yer outta yer skull. Screw the roofies - it's a cool tradition, but if ya really wanna see the game, pay the $15 for the bleacher seats...
 
2002-04-05 12:41:25 PM
This is newsworthy ? Hell, I want something more newsworthy like whether the courts rule that Tawny Kitaen will be charged with assault using a dangerous high heel shoe.

Huh huh, he said Whitesnake, huh huh.
 
2002-04-05 12:42:48 PM
Actually I think that Tawny Kitaen should go after them with a high heel shoe till they relent.
 
2002-04-05 12:43:04 PM
04-05-02 12:40:33 PM Nabb1
I agree, Ironbar, but you ought to check out Houston: no zoning ordinances. Zip. They don't do it. You could wake up one morning, and someone could be tearing down the house next to yours to build a Blockbuster. Which, I guess could be good or bad depending on how much you like to rent movies. Very strange.


Wow, by the time you egt through paying everybody off here in MA, there isn't much money left to build.

Cambridge is like that, too.
 
2002-04-05 12:43:07 PM
Ah yes Switching Channels otherwise known as the really bad remake of His Girl Friday.
 
2002-04-05 12:43:28 PM
Baseball been 'bery bery good' to owners of rooftops
 
2002-04-05 12:44:10 PM
The Cubs are probably mathematically eliminated from the playoffs already anyway.
 
2002-04-05 12:45:54 PM
Whats funny is that this is such a one sided story since the Tribune, the source herein, is the owner of the Cubs. The truth is, the communtiy has to vote on wether or not to allow expansion. For 50+ years people have been sitting on rooftops watching games. Games still sellout. Now Wrigley wants to expand and it will block rooftop views.
The community which has to approve the expansion says no. So Wrigley blocks the view intentionally with screens.
How many of their neighbors are going to apporve expansion now?
Or approve the additional night games they are asking for?
Bad bad political move by the Cubs...
 
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2002-04-05 12:45:57 PM
Hey, the view's great up here!!!
 
2002-04-05 12:46:19 PM
Dosman.....that hurts
 
2002-04-05 12:47:53 PM
Yeah, the Cubs owners are a-holes. I don't think business should be able to charge people money for their products.
 
2002-04-05 12:50:26 PM
The free ride is ending. Those "innocent victims" of the Cubs were charging upwards of $10,000 to steal a view of the game. I used to work there and I have no love for the "Wrigley Neighbors". What, they didn't notice a ballpark was across the street when they moved in? Cubs have a right to protect their interests. Go Cubs!
 
2002-04-05 12:50:41 PM
sounds like a bunch of farkers biatching because the Cubs' owner wants them to pay to watch the game instead of getting to watch it for free. LOSERS
 
2002-04-05 12:51:09 PM
Charlotte Newfeld, chairwoman of Citizens United for Baseball in the Sunshine.

Finally, someone has set up an organization to tackle the important issues.
 
2002-04-05 12:52:02 PM


Oh Harry, guide us through these hard times
 
2002-04-05 12:54:21 PM
The cubs playoff chances are pretty damn good this year. As for the rooftop thing, yeah, people are paying money to sit up there and watch the game. Guess what, thats ILLEGAL. The Cubs COULD sue the asses off the owners of those buildings. Instead, they are just blocking the view. I think the team is being pretty nice about it.
 
2002-04-05 12:54:47 PM
Deltau,
Are you from Chicago? The reality of this situation is that the roof tops are as traditional as Harry Caray. They are a part of a small area that deals with a lot of logistical problems in order to accomodate the Cubs and Wrigley Field. The Park is almost smack dab in the middle of a residential neighborhood.
If the Cubs want to push it, Wrigley field will be declared a historical landmark, they won't be able to change anything.
The Cubs have a right to charge for their product. They also have a duty to maintain goodwill with their surrounding community.
 
2002-04-05 12:55:11 PM
lol Deltau. Well said.

These people should stfu. They don't deserve shiat from the cubs, and if I were the owners I'd be putting up screens too, now - not that I would have before, but good lord, it takes a lot of nerve to try to get city gov't to keep allowing you to get something for nothing.

Oh wait, that's what zoning is all about... nevermind...
 
2002-04-05 12:55:50 PM
The Cubbies suck, and so does baseball!
 
2002-04-05 12:55:51 PM
Just buy a ticket you cheap bastards!
 
2002-04-05 12:56:40 PM
ZombieWoof, luckily the traditional drunk Harry "slurs a lot" Caray is gone!
 
2002-04-05 12:57:07 PM
All I am saying is they can put up all the screens they want. It won't get them money from the roof tops and it ain't going to get them any closer to the expansion they are looking for.
 
2002-04-05 12:57:53 PM
Me, I'm a Sox fan. So anything that makes the Cubs look bad is A-OK!
 
2002-04-05 12:58:18 PM
Hey, are those rooftops on houses? I mean, I've never been to Chicago and I was wondering if those are houses or buildings that people go up an watch the game on. Is it a bad part of town?
 
2002-04-05 12:58:47 PM
If it keeps them from tearing the staduim down and rebuilding a new one...I am totally for it. Not too many old time staduims around. The stadiums now look like theme parks! GO CUBBIES
 
2002-04-05 12:58:59 PM
The Cubs should erect giant mirrors reflecting right back at those bastards.
 
2002-04-05 12:59:49 PM
Zombie....PEDRO KILLED MY FANTASY BASEBALL STANDINGS..ACK
 
2002-04-05 12:59:51 PM
Zombie, I am from Chicago, but the cubs don't have a "duty" to give away free views of ballgames just because they've done it before. Yes, the city can declare Wrigley a historical landmark and block them from doing anything -- but doing it just screams of the stinky backdoor political dealings for which this city has become so well known.

Nobody has a "duty" to give anything away for free, and the mere fact that the gov't may mandate such giving only makes legal and puts the force of the state behing ordinary theft .
 
2002-04-05 12:59:54 PM
Hmmm, rent an apartment so I can watch a game? Or pay 15$ to go see it in person? Oh wait, it's on TV for free. I win.
 
2002-04-05 01:01:43 PM
Fb- is NOT Fb-.
 
2002-04-05 01:03:47 PM
G.H.T.
I agree that they do not have a legal obligation to do anything. And the residents who vote on wether or not to allow expansion of the park do not have an obligation to approve the expansion.

Realisticly, does it seem smart to piss off the people you need to vote for your proposal?
 
2002-04-05 01:04:17 PM
Instead of screens they should put up signs that say:


"Stop being a mooch, if you want to see the game, by a ticket, looser."
 
2002-04-05 01:04:59 PM
ImEvil- Harry Caray was a god among men.


"If anyone ever tells you you can have a good time without alchohol, they're lying"
HC
 
2002-04-05 01:06:17 PM
Being a long time Cub Fan. I do have to say both sides have a point. Wrigley Field is a beautiful old ball park and in my opinion a landmark for the city of Chicago. You have always been able to see the game from a local rooftop and it was a cool thing. The owners of the buildings started to build stadium seating on the roofs of these buildings. The cubs do have limited seating in the park it is small. Any expansion would block the view of the rooftops. So the city won't allow expansion (yet).

In any event, the Tribuine Company which owns the Cubs says the tarps are for security reasons. But we all know that is a bunch of BS. They Should just take them down and stop being a bunch of asses.
 
2002-04-05 01:06:46 PM
Flaming a team....I assume that is it your lack of althetic ability or you fear to leave your mothers arms that spawns these statements....Either way. Baseball is great...Cubs are great...and well, you guys just suck.
 
2002-04-05 01:10:58 PM
I prefer the Braves.
Didn't care much for Harry Carey.
Baseball sucks anyway.
Remember the strike. They don't care about us. BOYCOTT.
 
2002-04-05 01:14:51 PM
Why do the Cubs even bother playing?
Cubs suck my left tit,
Chicago Tribune suck my right tit.
 
2002-04-05 01:15:40 PM
Bad CRC, I think you nailed it. The rooftoppers have evolved into a bunch of profiteering greedheads, but that's what we have owners and players for. Can't say I think they have a leg to stand on. But hey, if they want to build taller, wobblier grandstands on their roofs, cool -- it'll be great fun to watch the lawsuit parties when one of them collapses.

Only someone named "IamEvil" would say that baseball sucks.
 
2002-04-05 01:17:32 PM
Hey Clarkins,
Does the NBA care about us? What about the NFL? I think the Pro Curlers probably don't care about us either. I believe Hyundai, Ford, GM, Honda, Volkswagon, Toyota etc don't care about us either. I think that if you really boycotted all businesses that cared more about $$$ than Customer satisfaction, you would live in hutt of your own construction and continue in the Glorius Hunter/Gatherer tradition so well established by our primal ancestors.
 
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