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(Some Other Guy)   Japanese business card etiquette   ( divider line
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11367 clicks; posted to Main » on 05 Apr 2002 at 12:10 AM (15 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2002-04-05 12:14:15 AM  
Feh? Meh? Both?
2002-04-05 12:15:23 AM  
How appropriate. Tonight, with only 200 channels at my disposal, I can find nothing good to watch so I have Gung-Ho on in the background (at least until 10PM news).
2002-04-05 12:15:42 AM  
I'll have the California roll, meishi, and some miso soup, please.
2002-04-05 12:16:18 AM  
number 5) Do not write on the back "this is you" then light it on fire. they don't seem to take to kindly to that
2002-04-05 12:16:23 AM  
mmmmmmm miso soup
2002-04-05 12:16:51 AM  
Okay, but why is this from a UK company?

I prefer Spider Rolls (fried soft shell crab, usually warm when they get to my table) and two orders of Cucumber Rolls (6 rolls in each order).
2002-04-05 12:18:31 AM  
miso soup and kimchi... mmmmmmmm :-D
2002-04-05 12:18:43 AM  
Sounds similar to the way things are done here in Korea. And, as far as I know, it's not just Japanese "business etiquette," but an extension of Japanese etiquette into the business world. In other words, just learning about the basics of Japanese culture and mentality will be a good start.
2002-04-05 12:19:03 AM  
japan seems like the kind of country you can get your ass kicked in very quickly
2002-04-05 12:22:40 AM  
man im glad that was cleared up. i always wondered but was affraid to ask.
2002-04-05 12:22:45 AM  
Do not play or fiddle with people's meishi - treat them with respect. A Western businessman once famously lost a big deal for picking his teeth with one of his colleagues' business cards, and was never given the opportunity to do business with the company again.

ahhhhhhhh hahahahhahahahha
2002-04-05 12:24:53 AM  
Fukui San?
2002-04-05 12:25:12 AM  
Caligula: If you're eating kimchi, you should try the Korean version of miso, doenjang. It's the same basic thing, but it has a stronger flavor than miso. Many Westerners find miso easier to stomach (the smell of doenjang being made can be quite an experience), but once you get used to it it's really good.

Sec: To my knowledge, if you screwed up in Japan you would not get your ass kicked. You would simply be ignored and/or shut out of the loop. If you're looking for a nice can of whoop ass, come to Korea and tell everyone you're a friend of Ohno.
2002-04-05 12:26:09 AM  
Oh yeah... never ever wipe your ass with someone's business card infront of them. The japanese really get pissed off with that unless you're a schoolgirl.
2002-04-05 12:27:10 AM  
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2002-04-05 12:30:38 AM  

to find out about Japanese Boy Band Etiquette.
2002-04-05 12:30:43 AM  
"Do not play or fiddle with people's meishi"

need they say more?
2002-04-05 12:33:44 AM  
Yeah, I was wondering about that teeth-picking thing too. I mean, jeez. What a moron.

I can see a Western businessman waiting until the end of the meeting to hand out cards, then flipping them out like he was dealing poker, or hand-over-hand at the post-meeting handshake. That's just the American, last-minute, high-aggression way.(also probably the way I'd do it, if I had business cards.) But picking his teeth with them. In the meeting. Um, in most business environments where the participants are wearing suits, picking your teeth is rude. This isn't like "To belch or not to belch after a good meal". Using somebody else's calling card as a hygiene tool, well, I don't think that's well taken to even in blue-collar jobs. What did he do for an encore, go to the bathroom and wipe his hands on the other rep's shirt?
2002-04-05 12:34:53 AM  
Texaggie79: that is quite possibly the one funniest thing I have seen in my existance.
2002-04-05 12:37:03 AM  
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miso horny
2002-04-05 12:40:05 AM  
Tetrasutra: I love watching the part at 1:48 where the entire audince is in unison
2002-04-05 12:40:42 AM  
Dude that yatta stuff is farked up man....
2002-04-05 12:40:52 AM  
All true.

Optionally, if a card holder is not available, arrange the cards (usually you get 3 or 4 at a time) neatly on the table in front of you.

Also, the cards are usually exchanged simultaneously, not one at a time.

If somebody offers you their card, offer them yours. Keep at least 5 with you at all times, even when not at work.

If you look white, you will get the English side up.

One time the president of he Japanese branch of a Korean car company thought he'd show off how much he knew about foreigners, and kind of flicked his card at me. My (Japanese) coworker asked me if we had no meishi etiquette in America, to which I answered "apparently."
2002-04-05 12:42:26 AM  
Ouroboros: OK, that's gonna mess with my head for a while. The mental confluence of the image of a moaning balding white man in a suit combined with the the impossible image of sexually desperate fermented soybean paste.
2002-04-05 12:46:24 AM  
Ishidan: You should have seen it on SNL. Celebrity Jeopardy rocks!
2002-04-05 12:56:32 AM  
Ouroboros: It wasn't Sean Connery it was John Travolta.
2002-04-05 12:59:15 AM  
SqueezeTruck: Boy does that story hit a nerve. It just love it when Asians (Koreans, in my case) treat Westerners rudely because they have this idea that "politeness" does not exist in the West.

I'm going to stop now before I get really riled.
2002-04-05 01:01:33 AM  

Celebrity Jeopardy on SNL is the best sketch ever.
2002-04-05 01:03:04 AM  
So if they have very strict code for business cards, what is their foreplay like?
2002-04-05 01:04:25 AM  
If some guy stared at my card for more than, say, two seconds, holding it with both hands, I'd have to fight the urge to slap him upside the head, grab the card and put it in his shirt pocket.
2002-04-05 01:04:29 AM  
I once had a bowl of miso that was so good I lost track of time and could do nothing else but savor the flavor.
2002-04-05 01:08:45 AM  
Wasn't this covered in that movie with Snipes and Connery?
2002-04-05 01:09:54 AM  
I have to explain that a bit further. This soup was an oralgasm. I cannot begin to figure out how long it took me to eat that bowl of soup. But, while I was doing so, the soup in the bowl, the soup in the spoon and my mouth were the only things in the universe important enough to be recognized by my consciousness.

Yes . . it was that good.
2002-04-05 01:11:02 AM  
Nanook: Are you baked?
2002-04-05 01:13:58 AM  
2002-04-05 01:15:40 AM  
So if they have very strict code for business cards, what is their foreplay like?

Somebody buy this person a Japanese porn tape. It'll mess him up.

Ogre: you'd be thinking of Rising Sun.
2002-04-05 01:17:18 AM  
Didn't really think so. Zen thing, I guess. Word.
2002-04-05 01:20:29 AM  
Texaggie79- I would like to thank you for bringing the wonder that is "Yatta" into my life... I don't think I've laughed that hard in about a month.
2002-04-05 01:22:03 AM  
Hey, ain't nothing drugs can do that can't be done with a good orgasm, a gourmet meal or some quality quiet time.
2002-04-05 01:23:41 AM  
Well said Nanookanano
2002-04-05 01:29:23 AM  
I think only my father caught on to the fact that I had gone into a medatative fugue state. When I un-glazed and resurfaced I caught him giving me the tiniest look of amused understanding. But then, he is the one in the family with the supergenius brain.
2002-04-05 01:33:05 AM  
I totally agree. At that brief confluence of space and time, one wants for nothing. The consciousness slips away, if only for a moment My dog, for example, has been licking his balls for the last ten minutes or so, just going at it, getting really into it making all kinds of noise. He only stopped briefly to look at me when I roared with laughter at that Yatta shiat (thank you Tex), which unfortunately, broke the moment for him, because now he thinks he's getting a walk.
2002-04-05 01:41:01 AM  
Frank: Thank you for the lecture. I happen to be fairly fluent in Korean (and I have also studied Japanese), so I know what you mean about levels of speech. I think, however, that "Rudeness is an integral part of Korean culture," is a bit of an overstatement, not to mention a stereotype. Notice that I said "I hate when Koreans do such and such," not "All Koreans do such and such."

I also have no idea where you got the slovenliness thing from. I have lived in Korea for over six years now, and I have met plenty of neat people and plenty of messy people. Also, what this has to do with their perception of foreigners is beyond me.

It sounds to me like you a had a bad experience in Korea (you didn't happen to serve in the U.S. military in Korea, did you?), and that has tainted your perspective on Korea as a whole. It is unfortunate, as Korea is not a nation of rude and slovenly people, as you seem to think.
2002-04-05 01:41:01 AM  
Your analogy is apt . . tasteless, but apt.
2002-04-05 01:43:26 AM  
They have to dance around our economic prejudices, always.
2002-04-05 02:14:35 AM  
2002-04-05 06:51:26 AM  
What???!!!! No mention of not drawing mushroom clouds on those cards? Doing so guarentees a "no deal".
2002-04-05 07:01:57 AM  
"meishi"- the hoped for answer you get when you are asking if your Japanese lady-for-hire is really a lady.
Hello? Is this thing on?
2002-04-05 07:06:53 AM  
All that bowing and treating cards reverently bullshiat. No wonder these people lost WWII.
2002-04-05 07:15:37 AM  
Indeed. All you need to do in order to win a war is pick your teeth with the enemy's business cards. If only they'd gotten this earlier.
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