St. Apatheism

Well how come he didn't SAY that? Good thing he has you and Fox news to "interpret" his innane ramblings. I think what he meant to say is, all you dummies shut up and do what my daddy's friends say to do.

Jesus H. Christ, how is anybody supposed to read that and NOT feel ashamed to be an American???

/my mind asplodes

Kudos to CrazyBob on the lame Photoshop.

Yeah, liberals are the elites, the ones with all the money and power in this country.

/can't roll my eyes any further

I_C_Weener:

I give you JFK, the first. But I am pretty sure he never did anything himself either.

Graduated cum laude from Harvard, served in the Pacific in WWII and was awarded medals for his bravery in saving three wounded men while wounded after PT-109 was torpedo'ed by a Japanese submarine. His book "Profiles in Courage" was awarded a Pulitzer Prize.

You were saying?

alienated says:
I believe the job of the President is to confront problems, not to pass them on to future Presidents or future generations

George W. Bush says:
I believe the job of the President is to create problems, and to pass them on to future Presidents or future generations.

I_C_Weener

pontechango I commmented, I did not attempt to refute. You believe the luck or conspiracy theory. I don't, but I am not attempting to disprove you, just to point out that calling him stupid ignores the success he has enjoyed.

I didn't call him stupid. You appear to have completely misunderstood my rather simple statement. I don't believe the "luck or conspiracy" theory. Why don't you go reread my explanation.

edverb

You were saying?

Something about it being bedtime.

edverb:

and was awarded medals for his bravery in saving three wounded men while wounded after PT-109 was torpedo'ed by a Japanese submarine.

That's not what happened, monkeyboy.

Caffiend2003

motherbuster has trouble differentiating lawlessness and freedom.

Well, then differentiate. If you're restricted from killing, then you don't have total freedom - how many other ways are there to look at it? That's what laws do: restrict certain freedoms. I think you may have missed the point of what I was getting at in light of specifics, but hey - that's the Fark.com way.

In any event, total freedom/lawlessness is a fine line. But if you're going to challenge someone's idea, don't just go back to your Solitaire game - educate us, the uninformed.

smackem yackem --
"Yeah, liberals are the elites, the ones with all the money and power in this country."


Wait a minute, aren't the "BLUE" states feeding the "RED" states?

binky_boy:

I think what he meant to say is, all you dummies shut up and do what my daddy's friends say to do.

And that's your right, but if you read the entire paragraph its painfully obvious what his point is to anyone with above a fith grade reading comprehension level.

My question to you is this:

Why do you have this lusting need to not only hate the president but to share your views like a coward here anonymously on Fark where no one really cares anyhow?

I question your motives before I question a guy who's only real power is to Veto bills and elect certian officals. A guy whom if is truely running our country into the ground will be impeached.

Why do so many of you hate America?
Why do so many of you hate democracy?

Bush is a retard (as presidents go), as are the 51% or whatever odd percentage of Americans who are dumb enough to believe his administration's bs.

/embarrased to be part of this country at times

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and the wheel goes, round and round, round and round, round and round.

one party does it to the other doesn't matter who is in office.

OVER THROW THE IDIOTS! PUT ME IN CHARGE. EVERYONE GETS A FREE PSP OR XBOX OUTTA IT.

edverb: after PT-109 was torpedo'ed by a Japanese submarine.

my mistake...was rammed by a Japanese destroyer.

Bauer: he is the abomination.

-no more...no less.

I think you give him too much credit. He's a stupid puppet, taking orders on a cellphone.

"Iraqi intelligence documents from 1992 list Osama bin Laden as an Iraqi intelligence asset. Numerous sources have reported a 1993 nonaggression pact between Iraq and Al Qaeda. The former deputy director of Iraqi intelligence now in U.S. custody says that bin Laden asked the Iraqi regime for arms and training in a face-to-face meeting in 1994. Senior al Qaeda leader Abu Hajer al Iraqi met with Iraqi intelligence officials in 1995. The National Security Agency intercepted telephone conversations between al Qaeda-supported Sudanese military officials and the head of Iraq's chemical weapons program in 1996. Al Qaeda sent Abu Abdallah al Iraqi to Iraq for help with weapons of mass destruction in 1997. An indictment from the Clinton-era Justice Department cited Iraqi assistance on al Qaeda 'weapons development' in 1998. A senior Clinton administration counterterrorism official told the Washington Post that the U.S. government was 'sure' Iraq had supporetd al Qaeda chemical weapons programs in 1999. An Iraqi working closely with the Iraqi embassy in Kuala Lumpur was photographed with September 11 hijacker Khalid al Mihdhar en route to a planning meeting for the bombing of the USS Cole and the September 11 attacks in 2000. Satellite photographs showed al Qaeda members in 2001 traveling en masse to a compound in northern Iraq financed, in part, by the Iraqi regime. Abu Musab al Zarqawi, senior al Qaeda associate, operated openly in Baghdad and receved medical attention at a regime-supported hospital in 2002. Documents discovered in postwar Iraq in 2003 reveal that Saddam's regime harbored and supported Abdul Rahman Yasin, an Iraqi who mixed the chemicals for the 1993 World Trade Center attack -- the first al Qaeda attack on U.S. soil.

"Then, on March 21, 2004, Richard Clarke, a former top counterterrorism offical with access to all of this information, made a stunning declaration: 'There's absolutely no evidence that Iraq was supporting al Qaeda, ever.'"

-- The Connection, Stephen F. Hayes, ISBN 0-06-074673-4, pp. 177-8

Yep, we're just a bunch of elite hippy liberals.

trad16: Nice joke, and I'll prove it to be that - a joke. Here's just a small bit of my '1337' google skillz:

FACT: rhiannon, visit ananova.com, one of your most valued fark sources, to see the truth about the President's former habit.

pontechango: RE:"I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card..." Give me a real valid source for those two quotes, not just some copy and paste job off a conspiracy website.

/Waste of my time - nuts will be nuts

I_C_Weener
You make my case for me.

When you desperately want to believe something, everything can.

Is he a moran, or genius? Again, hard to argue with success.

History is replete with very successful tyrants and worthlessly corrupt wealthy elites...I don't think anyone is denying that a man who is President of the United States has experienced some success in his life.

What many, including myself, take issue with is the manner in which he has obtained and retained this power. If you want to equate intelligence with success, I would remind you that the average presidential IQ is somewhere around 110.

We live in a plutocratic, corporatist country right now. It should be no surprise that those born into such privilege as not even Bush himself denies benefitting from will experience greater success than us ordinary folk.

/FYI - I have expressed neither admiration for his policies (in this thread) nor for his individual qualities. You have attributed to me a belief that I am fooled by him.

What I really think is that you think you're buying in, not being fooled. And I think this is precisely how you are being fooled, because those you have allied yourself with are not about to work for your interests, but require enough people to believe that they will in order to achieve theirs.

Perhaps, but again...was Hitler a moran (to use a liberal cliche) or lucky. He had success as well.

With all sincerity: You'd do well to ponder that.

/who spilled the beer?!?

HowlingFrog: He's a stupid puppet, taking orders on a cellphone

He's far from stupid, but he is a puppet, and they they mix it up to keep people guessing. =P

I_C_Weener: So there was no help from the Kennedy family and friends?

I don't judge a man by whether he's born with advantages or not, but rather what use he makes of his advantages. JFK put them to good use as a young man. Bush....not so much.

By the way folks- this is not something i normally do, because it can get you banned ( flooding/cascading like that).
I only did it for emphasis, in the hope that you American Farkers think long and hard about the political process.
Make your voice heard *please*.
Email /write/ phone your alleged "people" that have your best interests in mind in the District.
It is said that one letter makes them think a 1000 folks feel that way.
Make your voice heard before it is too late if you give a damn about this country- you elected them- make them work.thanks
/end rant

cry0fan
What liberal propaganda, and where are they getting it from?
The liberal propaganda is that Bush is trying to take money away from the old people. This is not the case. It is a lie. Benefits will still be paid out under the new system. Repeat as necessary.

budboomer
I wish there was a website similar to Fark that wasn't so liberal. Freerepublic is not an alternative - it is not even close to what Fark is, and it is too republican. I want an online community which, overall, is not strongly politically biased. If these guys still think the Daily Show isn't biased then we have a long road ahead.

mkfreeberg

Sorry, but that crap by Stephen Hayes was disavowed by the DoD and its public dissemination is borderline traitorous.

http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2003/nr20031115-0642.html

So basically, if you repeat a lie loud enough and long enough, people will believe it.

I think it was Goebbels or Goering or some other Nazi jackass that said that....

/godwin!

St. Apatheism
I question your motives before I question a guy who's only real power is to Veto bills and elect certian officals. A guy whom if is truely running our country into the ground will be impeached.

Surely you are not that naive, sir.

The liters are coming!

The liters are coming!

Jayguy

Give me a real valid source for those two quotes, not just some copy and paste job off a conspiracy website.

No. Find them yourself. They're all legit quotes. If you think they're bogus, you're just recapitulating your own ignorance.

alienated:

Make your voice heard before it is too late if you give a damn about this country- you elected them- make them work.

If (and this is just an unbiased if to give your plea some perspective) a President is actually doing a good job then it dosen't matter if everyone writes in and says they hate him. Granted that type of a situation is VERY unlikely it is, however, possiable. That being said a president who is impeached while popular opinion is low would have most likey been impeached even if popular opinion was high.

But yea, if writing a letter makes you feel better, people, then do it.

I_C_Weener:

The whole point here is that as much as you want it to be true, Bush can't be a moran, and conspiracy leader, and successful politician, and evil genius.

The whole point here is that you would prefer to argue with a strawman.

mkfreeberg: Stephen F. Hayes

BS..

The conservative Weekly Standard published its article on the Saddam-al-Qaida connection, "Case Closed," by Stephen Hayes, in its Nov. 24, 2003, issue. The piece, released on Nov. 14, was instantly promoted as providing proof for the Bush administration's assertion that Saddam was long involved with Osama bin Laden's terrorist organization. Weekly Standard executive editor Fred Barnes trumpeted the article on Fox News. "These are hard facts, and I'd like to see [skeptics] refute any one of them," he said.

But the Department of Defense did just that. On Nov. 15, the next day, the Pentagon issued an extraordinary statement calling the story "inaccurate" and explaining it was based on raw intelligence (or a "classified annex") that had not been evaluated. "The classified annex was not an analysis of the substantive issue of the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda, and it drew no conclusions."

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5591.htm

St. Apatheism

I notice you are sharing your views here "like a coward". I vote so I can biatch. I despise GW because he is wasting American lives from my socio-economic background with such caprice it sickens me. I hate the system because our education system sucks so the few opportunities the poor have are to die on a foreign soil for a commander and chief who won't even go to their funerals or allow their caskets to be shown in public.

But I would fight and die for this country if the cause was just.

And furthermore, if you had to walk a mile in my shoes, you wouldn't last ten feet.

Jayguy

Give me a real valid source for those two quotes, not just some copy and paste job off a conspiracy website.

Btw, those quotes should be pretty easy to find for somebody who googles upwards of 200 times a day.

Jayguy:

RE:"I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card..." Give me a real valid source for those two quotes, not just some copy and paste job off a conspiracy website.

/Waste of my time - nuts will be nuts

How about this?

Because we all know that all those sources that you pigeonhole as "conspiracy sites" make their info up.

mrexcess: Surely you are not that naive, sir.

Sorry, but vast global conspiracys bore me and I find indulgence in them as the mark of an uneducated and weak mind.

While the theater of politics is global that does not mean that any one group is in charge. And if anything the united states would find very little support in its leadership of any global system from the older and more experienced nations of the world. America is today what the jewish banker/doctor was in times past. Nothing more, and possiably something less.

So, please enlighten me with your undefensable proof and logic and reasoning if you truely must. Just please do not expect me to respect you afterwards.

St. Apatheism
That being said a president who is impeached while popular opinion is low would have most likey been impeached even if popular opinion was high.

Because if there's one group of people we can trust more than the President, its Congress.

Alexandra:

So basically, if you repeat a lie loud enough and long enough, people will believe it.

um, that was Moses' strategy
Now walk behind me 10 paces or something

Besides St. Apatheism, you are some half-ass fence sitting atheist, why do you support this bible thumping freak. You know half his buds are support Israel so the Jews can start the apocalypse. I saw that shiat on 60 minutes, so call my ass a liar if you want.

Noam Chimpsky:


The Democrats were absolutely euphoric about war when they allied with Bin Laden against the Christian Serbs.

Wow, it realy is a religion war for some of you.

Revenge the Crusades!!!