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(Japan Times)   Pic of F-cupped 11-year-old in bikini reported to ease anti-Japan tension in China   (japantimes.co.jp) divider line 534
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2005-05-22 07:23:49 PM  
BobTheHamster: Black women = Look like... just unattractive


If you find Vanessa Williams or Halle Berry unattractive, then you have a serious case of the gay.
 
2005-05-22 07:25:51 PM  
How can all you experts say she's not 11 she's 12 or 13 or even 18? Asian women all look 12 to me. My sister in law is Phillipino (yes I know that's not Asian) and I know she's damn near 40 and she looks 12 to me.

And not to cross post, but one of those pictures pointed out something very useful about tattoos, they prove the bearer is over 18.
 
2005-05-22 07:27:45 PM  
Mayhem_King

My guess is that your guilt is what caused you to post in outrage. Your own guilt is why you are posting that the rest of us should feel shame. The link goes to a text article. The picture of the girl was posted in this thread. For some reason, in your mind, the picture became "pornographic" and "sick". The only reason for you to post that we should feel shamed is because you are feeling shame.

"Shame" and "guilt" are sociological constructs. Technically speaking, they don't exist. Human beings created those concepts.

Thus, the emotion called "shame" or "guilt" comes from the culture taught by the society in which an individual lives. An action is taken, and the individual is taught that the appropriate response to that action or to feelings associated with that action are "shame" and "guilt."
 
2005-05-22 07:28:53 PM  
Not *every* man looks at an overweight girl and automatically thinks "Ewww! Gross! Ugly!"

Oh of course not every man, just the Chubby Chasing fetish freaks. Sicker then scat and golden shower lovers i tells ya.
 
2005-05-22 07:30:07 PM  
Not *every* man looks at an overweight girl and automatically thinks "Ewww! Gross! Ugly!". Some men (and women) prefer their women to look like WOMEN - not Barbie dolls or twelve-year-old boys.

Since when was the standard template for women that of an overweight woman? I'm puzzled by women who think it's natural and normal to be 15+lbs overweight.
 
2005-05-22 07:31:56 PM  
...Chubby Chasing fetish freaks. Sicker then scat and golden shower lovers i tells ya.
I think that's pretty amusing, considering your SN. ;)
 
2005-05-22 07:33:27 PM  
Why is it that if a girl has boobs some men automatically think age is not a factor?
good grief
 
2005-05-22 07:34:06 PM  
I'm puzzled by women who think it's natural and normal to be 15+lbs overweight.
Who defines "overweight" anyway?
Most women are 15+ lbs "overweight" compared to models. And thank Bog for that.

I'm into different shapes and sizes. Not the extremes, though.
 
2005-05-22 07:34:14 PM  
ProtestWarrior:

So if anyone has home movies with their daughters in swimsuits, that's child porn?

smallfry:

No, Protest Warrior. In my mind that 100% is not porn. (Unless of course- the INTENTION was there for something else. Like a FARK headline stating that she's there for helping relax men.)

so you know, what if somebody took a home video of their daughters in swimsuits, somebody takes the tape, labels it, "HOT YOUNG GIRLS TO HELP MEN RELAX", it's perverted to take the tape back and watch it? intention doesn't matter at ALL, interpretation does. i can take a picture of a child innocently, and somebody else can look at that picture and imagine having sex with the child. the same person can take a picture, imagining having sex with the child, even though the child is fully clothed, and i can see the picture and not have that mindset at all.

you seem like an extremely naive person
 
2005-05-22 07:34:15 PM  
Chocolate.x

Since when was the standard template for women that of an overweight woman? I'm puzzled by women who think it's natural and normal to be 15+lbs overweight.

Your entire argument just fell away, seeing as how "overweight" is a subjective and, to be honest, ephemeral term.
 
2005-05-22 07:35:55 PM  
smallfry: Whatever Mark- What is the INTENTION of the site?


Global domination?
 
2005-05-22 07:36:05 PM  
I'm liking the strange ironic wordplay used in asking whether if "Is she on the site for a medical purpose?" and then pronouncing that people looking at the site are sick.


/ur right, I have no idea how to turn it into comedic gold.
//I wish Bill Hicks was here still.
 
2005-05-22 07:36:38 PM  


GIS for "Lolita"
Perverts.
 
2005-05-22 07:36:44 PM  
smallfry:
Like a FARK headline stating that she's there for helping relax men

Um, too bad the headline doesn't say that at all. "Reported to ease anti-Japan tension in China" (of which there is quite a bit; I was just there for an extended time) is not "helping relax men." Besides being patently misogynistic (people=men?) your statement is just wrong.
 
2005-05-22 07:38:04 PM  
Some people seems to be debating/arguing some simple common sense stuff on this thread. Here are some plain and obvious facts for some of you:

1) If you can't tell the difference between an A and a C cup (people are debating that!), then you don't get out much or you live in a cave.

2) She's not an F cup, of course.

3) Yes women, it is not "legit" or attractive (except to a small MINORITY of men), to boast about your F, G or H sized cups when you are obese. B or C cups on a HWP or fit female are much more attractive that F cups that are barely distinquishable from your belly. It's tantamount to a guy boasting about his 24 inch biceps when he is 200 pounds overweight. It's all fat! Would you prefer a toned bicep (actual muscle) or a big roll of fat around a guys arm? Of course you'd prefer the toned muscle/bicep to the diabetes/heart problems, etc., case waiting to happen.

4) These pics are not porn. If you think they are then you have never actually seen porn. If this was porn you would be required to be eighteen to go onto a public beach. The pics may not be "tasteful" or wise. But, they are not porn.

That is all.
 
2005-05-22 07:38:05 PM  
 
2005-05-22 07:39:09 PM  
CrazyBob:

If you find Vanessa Williams or Halle Berry unattractive, then you have a serious case of the gay.

i don't know about vanessa williams, but halle berri is only HALF black, and incidentally those are almost always the only ones i find attractive.

it's not the skin color that turns me off, it's things like body and facial structure that vary greatly from race to race. halle berri borrows other features
 
2005-05-22 07:39:13 PM  
smallfry, this conversation is useless without pics, 9 you say?


//NOT serious, just being a dick as usual
 
2005-05-22 07:39:16 PM  
Well I'm no expert, but I don't think this qualifies as child porn.


The pose is provacative, the child is 11. What does that tell you? It is child porn.
Mods I can't believe you even green lit the picture.
You are treading on very thin thin ice.
 
2005-05-22 07:41:55 PM  
Thus, the emotion called "shame" or "guilt" comes from the culture taught by the society in which an individual lives. An action is taken, and the individual is taught that the appropriate response to that action or to feelings associated with that action are "shame" and "guilt."

Thank you for the Psych 101. I was mirroring the poster's construct.

"Shame" and "guilt" are sociological constructs. Technically speaking, they don't exist. Human beings created those concepts.

Now, if I may teach you something, if we don't have something in our culture, we don't have a word for it. The words "shame" and "guilt" are labels for internal associations that are sometimes described as "feelings". If you are trying to tell me that people do not feel either "shame" or "guilt", then I've got some news for you... They do. A word is just a representation. Of course it's a construct. They feelings and emotions backing them however, are real. Real brain chemicals; real engrams. I hope you aren't about to post that depression is a construct too?

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_297
 
2005-05-22 07:43:36 PM  
2005-05-22 07:36:44 PM TrixieBelasco


smallfry:
Like a FARK headline stating that she's there for helping relax men

Um, too bad the headline doesn't say that at all. "Reported to ease anti-Japan tension in China" (of which there is quite a bit; I was just there for an extended time) is not "helping relax men." Besides being patently misogynistic (people=men?) your statement is just wrong.


smallfry:
 
2005-05-22 07:45:57 PM  
Chocolate.x

Since when was the standard template for women that of an overweight woman? I'm puzzled by women who think it's natural and normal to be 15+lbs overweight.

Your entire argument just fell away, seeing as how "overweight" is a subjective and, to be honest, ephemeral term.


I'll agree that being overweight is subjective. I've dated a girl who was about 50lbs overweight (hey, she was a nice person) and she was about 5' and 190lbs or so. She didn't think it was normal to be so fat but she didn't care. I'm just confused by obese women who think somehow it's natural to be that way. How'd the trend get started? I wasn't trying to start an argument, I was just curious.
 
2005-05-22 07:47:19 PM  
smeegle

Which picture are you talking about?
 
2005-05-22 07:48:24 PM  
She looks like an 18 year japanese girl. Just about all of them from 11-21 look about the damn same.
 
2005-05-22 07:49:18 PM  
To solve arguments about what size cup she is, Farkers should start a fund to buy her a ticket to the USA so she can be measured for an American bra.
Her American size can then be posted as a follow-up thread.
Or a newsflash.
 
2005-05-22 07:50:19 PM  
smeegle:

The pose is provacative, the child is 11. What does that tell you? It is child porn.
Mods I can't believe you even green lit the picture.
You are treading on very thin thin ice.



Personally, I didn't find it very provocative - I've seen worse in clothing catalogs. I don't think the ice here is particularly thin.
 
2005-05-22 07:50:39 PM  
Mayhem_King

Now, if I may teach you something, if we don't have something in our culture, we don't have a word for it. The words "shame" and "guilt" are labels for internal associations that are sometimes described as "feelings". If you are trying to tell me that people do not feel either "shame" or "guilt", then I've got some news for you... They do. A word is just a representation. Of course it's a construct. They feelings and emotions backing them however, are real. Real brain chemicals; real engrams. I hope you aren't about to post that depression is a construct too?

The human being's sense of Self is created by vital sociological exposure in the first couple crucial years of life. Without the exposure to other human beings, a new human being will not develop a concept of the Self.

People afflicted with antisocial personality disorder (i.e., sociopaths) are incapable of feeling either guilt or shame.
 
2005-05-22 07:52:11 PM  
Burn98: Saaya Irie

Birth Nov 15



Heh, that's my birthday too!
 
2005-05-22 07:54:50 PM  
I am a mother.
I read the headline.
I DID NOT LOOK AT THE PICS
The headline was IT for me.
I don't understand how anyone can read that headline- and think it's a good idea to look at those pictures.
Again, it was HOW the headline read...
Last time I checked, I still live in a free country.
I'd like to keep it that way.
 
2005-05-22 07:57:03 PM  
-and by that I mean- I have the right to voice my opinions in a public forum.
 
2005-05-22 08:00:53 PM  
The ABCs of Breasts

NSFW, but extremely informative.
 
2005-05-22 08:01:04 PM  
And we have the right to tell you you're being a reactionary tool.
 
F42
2005-05-22 08:01:57 PM  
smallfry:
I don't understand how anyone can read that headline- and think it's a good idea to look at those pictures.

What part of "F cup" don't you understand, then?
 
2005-05-22 08:01:59 PM  
smeegle, please, estiefyu.

Had I not known she was 11, my initial thought would have been, "Damn, lookit them titties" but knowing beforehand, my reaction was "Damn lookit them titties on the 11 year-old".

titties are titties people, it is irregular or an 11 year-old to have them, but it doesnt make you sick or perverted to admire them when placed on one. anyone happen to notice the fark advert w/ the "AA endorsment"? perfect example.
Its not like this is something you LOOK for, unless you are a pedophile.

As well, Japanese girls are small in general, so it may be difficult for the average ignorant Americn. Like me.
 
2005-05-22 08:02:27 PM  
super44

Now those are some ginormous booblies! Good job, good job.
 
2005-05-22 08:04:44 PM  
smallfry:

2005-05-22 07:57:03 PM smallfry

-and by that I mean- I have the right to voice my opinions in a public forum.


Well, in that case, you'll understand in all fairness that people are entitled to voice theirs - even if they are against what you're saying.

You must appreciate that people don't like to be called sick and presumed to be child porn enthusiasts, especially when the case you are assuming isn't pertinent to the reality at hand.

And, btw, if you haven't seen the pictures, then all you can really do is to lay the wrath on the submitter and their headline. Nothing else.
 
2005-05-22 08:07:44 PM  
I got news for you smallfry, Fark isn't a public forum, and you have no rights here. Just ask the Mods.
 
2005-05-22 08:13:24 PM  
K- thanks for that information, Gonzee.

GungFu, Again- I am able to think whatever I like. You are able to voice your opinion back. Good logic, No? Don't see the problem there.
 
2005-05-22 08:13:49 PM  
 
2005-05-22 08:13:50 PM  
smallfry
*sigh*
Your argument has credence. The headline refers to an 11 year old child with large breasts.
Uh ,,right there a red flag goes up. Then I see the 11 year old is indeed posing for the picture bending forward enough to show her cleavag. It is a provacative pose. Why is there even an argument about this?
If there is even debate as to wether it is, or could be close to questionable, then to me it's obvious there,s a problem here.
Mods, if you have to sit and wonder if you should or shouldn't post it, then why even take the risk.
 
2005-05-22 08:14:15 PM  
Hmm, if she had been smoking some pot and wearing an anti-bush slogan somewhere, we'd have already hit infinity!



I think that would be the perfect triumniverate(sp?) of a fark topic. Child porn, pot, and Bush...
 
2005-05-22 08:14:23 PM  
Lighten the hell up, people. You see more provocative images by going to the beach. Shall we ban everything but full body suits for anyone under 18 who is wanting to goto the beach now? Oh well, time to go turn on a national TV station and watch some murders!
 
2005-05-22 08:17:41 PM  
smallfry:

2005-05-22 08:13:24 PM smallfry

GungFu, Again- I am able to think whatever I like. You are able to voice your opinion back. Good logic, No? Don't see the problem there.


Erm, I thought that was very obvious in what I just wrote too.

Hmmm. Clearly you are no normal adversary in this debating/ discussion malarkey.
 
2005-05-22 08:17:47 PM  
super44
Yea, that scared me a lot. WTF?
 
2005-05-22 08:21:47 PM  
smallfry: -and by that I mean- I have the right to voice my opinions in a public forum

that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard. free speech is free speech, you're allowed to say what you want. we're not saying that. but we can also argue against your opinions as much as we wish too
 
2005-05-22 08:24:25 PM  
OKay, listen this is not about what you may or may not consider appropriate.
This is about the obviousness of it. This is about the legal quagmire fark could easily find itself in. If you can't see the legal implications then you have not been paying attention to the media.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but it aint gonna change what's already on the books.
 
2005-05-22 08:24:27 PM  
[troll] I figured it out. You people who are against this sort of thing are anti-Islam. The photographer was just following the example of the pedophile-prophet Mohammed. You should all learn to be more sensitive to Islamic culture.[/troll]
/working towards infinity
//stirring the pot with a big spoon
///oh drat, I said pot
 
2005-05-22 08:27:12 PM  
Ok this just obviously a very sensative subject so I vote for a cease to the flaming. Smallfry is a mother so I can see how this topic can make a parent act somewhat irrationally and passionate, even more so than a person without children. But also you can't just accuse every person who tries to look at the situation objectively of having severe mental illness.

/Flame off anyone?
 
2005-05-22 08:28:13 PM  
Chocolate.x

I'm just confused by obese women who think somehow it's natural to be that way. How'd the trend get started? I wasn't trying to start an argument, I was just curious

The trend got started b/c of the demographic shift of Americans from normal --> fatty fat ass fattos. Trying to convince themselves and all others that all is well, they repeat endlessly the mantra that they are 'normal-sized' before they go home and eat a whole goddammned tub of Godiva's Vanilla Ice Cream, and then blame their 'genes' for swelling up like a big, puffy marshmallow.
 
2005-05-22 08:32:17 PM  
eldezod: and then blame their 'genes' for swelling up like a big, puffy marshmallow.

For some strange reason this made me laugh and feel all giddy inside. : )

Sounds almost affectionate.
 
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