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(Japan Times)   Pic of F-cupped 11-year-old in bikini reported to ease anti-Japan tension in China   (japantimes.co.jp) divider line 540
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2005-05-22 05:28:11 AM
Shouldn't that get the "sick" lable?
 
2005-05-22 05:37:42 AM
that just ain't right.
 
2005-05-22 05:43:55 AM
I shoulda known this would be here already. I was going to submit it just now (just got home from work) cause I saw it in the paper today.

behold the fower of park
 
2005-05-22 05:46:43 AM
To this date, I had not known there was such a thing as F-cup...I've always thought that after D-cup they belong to "huge" or "X-Large" class...

How naive have I been...
 
2005-05-22 05:48:43 AM
Link ... pictures ...none .... worthless ....
 
2005-05-22 05:51:10 AM
she doesn't look like an F cup. maybe a C, especially on her frame. but maybe they have different sizes in Japan. agh I'm going to hell for even thinking too much about this. :(
 
2005-05-22 05:51:30 AM
If you want pics, they're here.

None of them seem too sexual, but they hardly seem innocent either.
 
2005-05-22 05:52:43 AM
festus: Link ... pictures ...none .... worthless ....


She's 11 years old, man, 11 freakin' years old. Get a hold of yourself!

I remember the day when I was teasing a girl with C-cup boobies in my 6th grade class...it's a whole new game now.
 
2005-05-22 05:56:32 AM
helioquake: She's 11 years old, man, 11 freakin' years old. Get a hold of yourself!

Heheheheh. Get ... .hold ... of .... yourself....

Well OK!

Tell that to submitter!!

And there's nothing wrong with looking at a picture ...
 
2005-05-22 05:58:01 AM
helioquake: She's 11 years old, man, 11 freakin' years old. Get a hold of yourself!

And if you think of it ... 11 yrs. old and an "F" cup.

What a draft choice!

As Rodney Dangerfield said: "Here's a quarter. Call me when your THIS many! (Holding up hand five times)."
 
wee [TotalFark]
2005-05-22 05:59:25 AM
No grass in the outfield? Play in the mud.

/hell
 
2005-05-22 06:02:06 AM
I'm going to burn in hell for looking at the pics. I agree with Rodney. Besides, what could we talk about? The new "whip me-beat me Barbie doll"?
 
2005-05-22 06:03:13 AM
offers1999: I'm going to burn in hell for looking at the pics

Ummm where are these pics you speak of?

And what's wrong with hell?

It's not like you're not going to KNOW anyone there!
 
2005-05-22 06:05:27 AM
*tries to think of why he's on festus's ignore list*
 
2005-05-22 06:08:17 AM
staplermofo: *tries to think of why he's on festus's ignore list*

Erm is that bass-ackwards there dude?

No one is on mine ... as no one is quite as sick as I am, apparently!

Maybe ... I'm on yours?
 
2005-05-22 06:13:59 AM
What, no Bukkakae shots?

I'm ashamed of, and disgusted with, all of you.

This is the INTERNET, People. The INTERNET.

Doesn't that MEAN anything anymore?

/storms away in a huff
 
2005-05-22 06:14:08 AM
wee: No grass in the outfield? Play in the mud.

/hell


Yep, here's your ticket. First class. Take the first handbasket to your right please.
 
2005-05-22 06:16:31 AM
Does it bother anyone else that the parents of this kid are obviously exploiting her and her bodacious tatas?

No?

Ok then. Just me.
 
2005-05-22 06:19:15 AM
festus: Ummm where are these pics you speak of?

Check the seventh post.

/can I get an isle seat?
 
2005-05-22 06:22:12 AM
woodpecker from mars:

Does it bother anyone else that the parents of this kid are obviously exploiting her and her bodacious tatas?


Yes, it does. Once I quit looking at the tatas, I saw somebody who could have been my daughter. I will now proceed to rip my eyes out.
 
2005-05-22 06:23:36 AM
woodpecker from mars:

Does it bother anyone else that the parents of this kid are obviously exploiting her and her bodacious tatas?

No?

Ok then. Just me.



Here,here!

(not just you)
 
2005-05-22 07:44:43 AM
and I'm sure that somewhere in the vast, wild, expanse of the intrawebs, there's already a pr0n site dedicated to this particular fetish and YOU WONT BELIEVE WHAT THESE HORNY TEENAGE SLUTZ DO!!!!!
 
2005-05-22 07:48:29 AM
ok I know this is fark but I actually managed to get offended and disturbed by this article.

StomachMonkey

but maybe they have different sizes in Japan.(

Yes- bra sizes are different there. C cup is the average but but it's much smaller than the C cup we know.
 
2005-05-22 08:21:04 AM
For the record, this is an F cup here in the US.

God bless America.
 
2005-05-22 08:55:14 AM
Child porn so early in the morning...Her parents should be shot
 
2005-05-22 09:15:11 AM
Well I'm no expert, but I don't think this qualifies as child porn.
 
2005-05-22 09:44:18 AM
Looks like A cups to me. Pretty normal.
 
2005-05-22 10:20:45 AM
why is an eleven year old girl posing for glamour photos wearing a bikini ... ?
 
2005-05-22 10:46:32 AM
the_gospel_of_thomas

To get to the other side. Jeez, you haven't heard this one before?
 
2005-05-22 10:48:35 AM
Where are her parents?
 
2005-05-22 10:50:14 AM
The good of the many VS. the good of the few.

If it takes exploiting someone to save lives in the long run, then they should keep doing what they're doing.
 
2005-05-22 10:50:56 AM
Wow. Talk about something I never thought I'd hear/see.
 
2005-05-22 10:58:49 AM
le mew: Looks like A cups to me.

Same here. And by the way, John Holmes looked to me like he had a 3" dick.
 
2005-05-22 11:01:13 AM
Agh! It threw away the image that was supposed to go with that comment:

 
2005-05-22 11:21:15 AM
Having been beatin in the face by 50dd, that aint no f cup.
Dont let your drunken friends take you to a titty bar on payday!!
 
2005-05-22 11:25:10 AM
It's a matter of presentation, fatlilbug.

Do YOU own a pair of boobies?
 
2005-05-22 11:25:47 AM

Does it bother anyone else that the parents of this kid are obviously exploiting her and her bodacious tatas?

Child porn so early in the morning...Her parents should be shot

why is an eleven year old girl posing for glamour photos wearing a bikini ... ?


Are we all mad?

Why do we in the USA and many other religious fundamentalist countries treat girls as precious virginal innocent flowers, who could not possibly understand sex, until long after they have sexually matured? Then at an arbitrary age, say 18, all of a sudden they are capable of consent, and open season for porn, men of any age, and any and all sorts of debauchery.

Take a photo of a 17 year old WOMAN nude, and it's "SICK SICK KIDDIE PORN!! AUUGGGHH CUT THE PHOTOGRAPHER'S BALLS OFF" but if she's 18, it's "OH MAN, THAT'S SO HOT!"

Who are we to say that some random person is not capable of understanding her body, understanding why someone would want to take a picture of her, understanding what sex and sexuality is, and understanding what is and is not exploitation? People are all different. I know 14 year olds who have a solid grasp on their sexuality and know when someone is out to exploit them, and I know 24 year olds who don't.

Do any of you personally know the person mentioned in the article? Do you know the photographer? I didn't think so. So why don't you quit judging them?
 
2005-05-22 11:33:01 AM
According to an anonymous source described as an Internet expert...

okay - which of you bastards is this "internet expert"?
 
2005-05-22 11:38:05 AM
This is why I want a tee-shirt that says "Nuke Japan....Third Time is the Charm"

I mean, I watch anime, I'm used to the fact that everyone in Japan has some sort of horrible sexual perversion, but 12 years old.....F-breats.....glamour shots already. I mean, I feel sick for just knowing where Japan is right now!
 
2005-05-22 11:43:16 AM
Eh, they do young glamour photos everywhere, including the US. The girls want to be supermodels, the mothers want their daughters to be super pretty award winning models (see the child beauty contests for example). But yes, I still think it's creepy.
 
2005-05-22 11:44:34 AM
le mew: Do YOU own a pair of boobies?

No, but I've rented and handled a few A cups (among other sizes), and despite close examination from many angles, I never saw any that looked remotely like this. Not A cups anyway!
 
2005-05-22 11:48:28 AM
Just for you, Bowen...GIS for 'internet expert'
 
2005-05-22 11:49:45 AM
"This is one Japanese import I won't be boycotting," gushed one admirer. Another said, "She doesn't look 11. She's gotta be 18."

isn't it entirely possible that the above statement is true? i mean, this story originated on teh internets, right? right?

/just sayin'
 
2005-05-22 11:51:30 AM
vulgar_power:

isn't it entirely possible that the above statement is true? i mean, this story originated on teh internets, right? right?

/just sayin'


oops... missed a paragraph... hehe... um... *poof*
 
2005-05-22 12:00:15 PM
I've told you guys time and time again! BOOBIES are the key to world peace!
 
2005-05-22 12:02:40 PM
Drew is just sitting back, grinning, and waiting for someone to say they'd hit it.
 
2005-05-22 12:29:32 PM
So what if she's only 11 years old.


She has the hawt body of a 9 year old...
 
2005-05-22 12:40:50 PM
staplermofo: If you want pics, they're here.

She's only 11? Wow.

I feel dirty now. DAMN YOU JAPAN.

badjew:

I mean, I watch anime, I'm used to the fact that everyone in Japan has some sort of horrible sexual perversion, but 12 years old.....F-breats.....glamour shots already.

I often wonder if America would be as perverted (on average) if we were as open with sexuality.
 
2005-05-22 12:58:58 PM
Damn. Thats a whole ton of boobies. I bet by the time that she reaches 18, she'll be at like a Q-cup or something
 
2005-05-22 01:08:07 PM
This thread is just fine without pics.
Boobies are nice, but not from an 11 year old.

/goes to look up heather christensen pics.
 
2005-05-22 01:11:15 PM
le mew: Where are her parents?

Taking the photos?
 
2005-05-22 01:17:27 PM
OK boys, calm down. She's only eleven.

And don't forget that ...
 
2005-05-22 01:17:33 PM
 
2005-05-22 01:17:42 PM
Japanese sizing is under equivalent to NA sizing, if it wasnt already pointed out. More like a C cup obviously
 
2005-05-22 01:17:45 PM
That is not an f cup
 
2005-05-22 01:19:47 PM
This article is worthless without...

(Slaps self)

No. You won't get me to say it. You WON'T!
 
2005-05-22 01:20:09 PM
this story represents an Asian trifecta!
 
2005-05-22 01:21:02 PM
I feel unclean.

And steamingpile is unfortunately correct. That is not an F cup.
 
2005-05-22 01:21:09 PM
Ah well, someone has to. And if I get banninated, maybe I'll get some work done for once.

I'd hit it!
 
2005-05-22 01:22:36 PM
Neither 11 nor f-cup is she, Skywalker.

And for the record, A-cups can easily look like C-cups when the model is bent forward.


/mmmm, beeent foooorward
 
2005-05-22 01:22:43 PM
eight year olds dude...
 
2005-05-22 01:22:44 PM
steamingpile: That is not an f cup


agreed.
 
2005-05-22 01:23:59 PM
le mew: Where are her parents?

At the bank, cashing the checks that they are getting from exploiting their daughter.
 
2005-05-22 01:24:01 PM
Oh, and BTW, Asian trifecta accomplished.
 
2005-05-22 01:24:12 PM
Something weird is definitely in the milk over there.
 
2005-05-22 01:24:36 PM
buntz: this story represents an Asian trifecta!


Damn you to hell.

/I need to pay attention.
 
2005-05-22 01:25:41 PM
Bowen wrote:

>>According to an anonymous source described as an Internet expert...

>okay - which of you bastards is this "internet expert"?


Is it this guy by any chance?

 
2005-05-22 01:25:47 PM
Strange...I can't believe nobody has pointed out that those aren't F-cups yet!
 
2005-05-22 01:26:09 PM
No way that's an F cup. C or possibly D at most.

The scary thing is she looks pretty much exactly like the Japanese models who are 18 but try to look girlish.
 
2005-05-22 01:26:12 PM
As stated before, sizes do run differently in Japan, and yes, that is about a Japanese F-cup. For comparison, a Japanese J-cup is about the same as an American F. (There isn't a direct correlation because of metrics, etc)
 
2005-05-22 01:26:21 PM
Farked....
 
2005-05-22 01:26:22 PM
vulgar_power:

Another said, "She doesn't look 11. She's gotta be 18."

isn't it entirely possible that the above statement is true?



I have not seen an eleven yesr old that well endowed but when she was that young my daughter had a twelve year old friend who was. And she had a pretty good idea what they were for. She'd wear skimpy bikinis and I will tell you that it was not easy not to look. I had to keep reminding myself how old she was. (Her A Hole parents should have been drawn & quartered). When she went swimming at the pool you could see all the eyes following her.

By the time she was fourteen with a little bit of make up and a fake I.D. she could get into bars with no trouble. And by that time she WAS using what she had. Very frequently.

Now that she is older she has settled down quite a bit but back then it was something else.
 
2005-05-22 01:26:29 PM
Give her an octopus.
 
2005-05-22 01:27:18 PM
SirPeteTheGreat:

As stated before, sizes do run differently in Japan, and yes, that is about a Japanese F-cup. For comparison, a Japanese J-cup is about the same as an American F. (There isn't a direct correlation because of metrics, etc)


Less talky, more J-Cup posty or linky!
 
2005-05-22 01:27:34 PM
Well I'm no expert, but I don't think this qualifies as child porn.

If this is child porn, then you will be arrested for having a Target ad.

But since seeing Janet Jackson's boob, I've gone on a 4 state crime spree, so who knows what this BIKINI picture may do to me. I mean, I've never seen someone in a bikini before. How dare her parents exploit her by putting her in bikini photos! The bastards!
 
2005-05-22 01:29:38 PM
the thing about cup size is that it is realavant to the circumfrence around the chest. Cup size increases approximatly 1 to 1.5 inches for each bra size (32,34,36,etc.). So this girl might be a 26 or 28 F which really isn't big comapared to a 32 D.
 
2005-05-22 01:30:17 PM
Boys.... let me remind you that a 38F cup looks different than a 34F Cup.

As a woman, I would guess that she is a 32 or 34 D or Barely F cup. But she is unusually endowed, and she looks more like 12 or maybe 13. Big chest, but still has the pre-pubescent waist/hip ratio. Not a lot of curve there, so she might be really be 11....
 
2005-05-22 01:31:04 PM
Time for a Japan tag.
 
2005-05-22 01:31:39 PM
She'd wear skimpy bikinis and I will tell you that it was not easy not to look. I had to keep reminding myself how old she was. (Her A Hole parents should have been drawn & quartered). When she went swimming at the pool you could see all the eyes following her.

Her parents should have been drawn and quartered because they let her wear a skimpy bikini, but the people who couldn't keep their eyes off of her were ok?

Hmmmm. Seems like it should be the other way around if any way at all.

We have laws that are written for good reason (mainly child PORNOGRAPHY laws which don't mean pictures of teens in skimpy bikinis). On the other hand, would someone in Europe even bat an eye at a 12 year old in a skimpy bikini? And is it REALLY possible to turn off any biological mechanism that "makes" us look? Heck, I feel as sick as anyone else if I check someone out and realize they are young. But sometimes you have to stop and figure out WHY you feel sick--how much of it is that society tells us that it is sick and how much of it is that it actually IS sick...
 
2005-05-22 01:33:42 PM
Welcome to Asia.

/Sorry sir, we have to confiscate your western morality at the gate. It's not allowed here.
 
2005-05-22 01:33:54 PM
When I read the headline my first thought was "God, I hope F-cup means something different in Japan."
 
2005-05-22 01:34:06 PM
my girlfirend is a DDD and all i have to say is that she is no F cup, maybe a C/D
 
2005-05-22 01:34:29 PM
I'd hit it.
Okay. When she's legal.
But don't say any of you farkers didn't think about it.
 
2005-05-22 01:35:44 PM
The only real way to determine one's bra size is by trying them on.
/popless
//^ rhymes with...
///behold the power of wikipedia
 
2005-05-22 01:35:58 PM
ChasingMilkRings is a boobie expert.
 
2005-05-22 01:36:19 PM
tonesskin:

Her parents should have been drawn and quartered because they let her wear a skimpy bikini, but the people who couldn't keep their eyes off of her were ok?

Hmmmm. Seems like it should be the other way around if any way at all.



Why? Letting her wear a bikini is a concious decision. Looking at her is instinct.

/old enough to bleed old enough to breed.
 
2005-05-22 01:36:45 PM
I think I found some nude pics of her. Or maybe not, but they're bigguns and they're Japanese. Many of you have probably already seen these.

*Not Safe For Work*
Tokyo Topless
 
2005-05-22 01:37:03 PM
Now I see how a "Great Wave" saved Japan from the Chinese. The Chinese are naive, gullible and easily distracted by large brests.
 
2005-05-22 01:37:33 PM
Good points..
stiletto_the_wise
Are we all mad?
Why do we in the USA and many other religious fundamentalist countries treat girls as precious virginal innocent flowers, who could not possibly understand sex, until long after they have sexually matured? Then at an arbitrary age, say 18, all of a sudden they are capable of consent, and open season for porn, men of any age, and any and all sorts of debauchery.

Take a photo of a 17 year old WOMAN nude, and it's "SICK SICK KIDDIE PORN!! AUUGGGHH CUT THE PHOTOGRAPHER'S BALLS OFF" but if she's 18, it's "OH MAN, THAT'S SO HOT!"

Who are we to say that some random person is not capable of understanding her body, understanding why someone would want to take a picture of her, understanding what sex and sexuality is, and understanding what is and is not exploitation? People are all different. I know 14 year olds who have a solid grasp on their sexuality and know when someone is out to exploit them, and I know 24 year olds who don't.

Do any of you personally know the person mentioned in the article? Do you know the photographer? I didn't think so. So why don't you quit judging them?


NOW hide your hard drive filled with kiddie pr0n the feds are on the way!
 
2005-05-22 01:37:48 PM
Stilleto_the_wise, at 11 children are still developing cognitively, and aren't able to understand the dynamics that sexuality brings on in a way that lets them make informed decisions.

I agree, that age 18 as a magic number isn't realistic. But there's only so much an 11 year old can understand about wearing a bikini for a photographer.
 
MrJ
2005-05-22 01:37:56 PM
Link is already farked.
 
2005-05-22 01:38:30 PM
Why? Letting her wear a bikini is a concious decision. Looking at her is instinct.

Sort of my point--it wouldn't even be an issue if we just realized that it is instinct to look and will happen. So no one is "to blame." Hell, through instinct I'd still check someone out in a burka if they are hot.
 
2005-05-22 01:38:33 PM
 
2005-05-22 01:38:48 PM
she's not 11......c'mon peoples


/goin to hell way before I clickyed.
 
2005-05-22 01:38:59 PM
I'd wait 7 years to hit it.
 
2005-05-22 01:40:28 PM
Creepy. Why isn't this getting the "weird" or "sick" tag?
 
2005-05-22 01:41:05 PM
Am I under arrest now?
 
2005-05-22 01:41:42 PM


Someone was bound to do it eventually. As I am already apperently going to hell, it can't hurt, right?

Note to moderators: Regardless of bra size, and 11 year old in a bikini is not child porn. If you happened to be at the beach and saw here in said bikini it would not be child porn. when it is a still picture, it does not automagically become child porn.

/just sayin'
 
2005-05-22 01:41:42 PM
It's all in the culture, hasn't anyone taken a basic Anthropology course? Did you know that there is a tribe the South Pacific who don't believe babies come from sex, so that by the age of 8 or 9, the children are regularly doing it?
 
2005-05-22 01:42:05 PM
Japan and China united by a creepy sexual fetish? Wow, I couldn't see that one coming a mile away.
 
2005-05-22 01:43:36 PM
/honk honk
 
2005-05-22 01:43:52 PM


I hear she's dating an American serviceman stationed in Okinawa.
Or soon will be.
 
2005-05-22 01:43:57 PM
Alas, the competing energies of libido and destrudo.

In America, I think destrudo has won out.
In Western Europe and Japan, I think libido has won out.

In psychoanalysis, libido is the energy from Eros, the desire to create (i.e., life instinct). Destrudo is the energy from Thanatos, the desire to destroy (i.e., death instinct).

Why does America have a preoccupation with its death instinct?
 
2005-05-22 01:44:12 PM
Nice! Why can't the United States do the same? Here's Pamela Anderson. Now hand over the oil!
 
2005-05-22 01:44:34 PM
Yota: so is several police departments.
 
2005-05-22 01:44:45 PM
Hmm. Not that I condone such actions or anything, but one of my groomsman from years back told me (he was born in japan) that the age of consent over there is 12.

Not that every 12yo goes out and immediately starts prowling around. Just that they're given the power to make the choice for themselves.
 
2005-05-22 01:44:52 PM
In Mexico, menudo has won out.
 
2005-05-22 01:44:59 PM
Sweet Statutory! (sp?) lol, kinda sick that shes only 11 and someones taking these pics.
 
2005-05-22 01:45:24 PM
Hahaha, now that is an F-cup...at least! (pops, NSFW)
 
2005-05-22 01:45:25 PM
Link is already farked.

lots of pervs in here today.

/yah, i clicked it too.

//now off for a walk to Diedrich's for a cup of coffee and to enjoy this nice day.
 
2005-05-22 01:45:33 PM
eighteen shmeighteen. I'd hit it.
 
2005-05-22 01:48:47 PM
Greg Rebellion

In Mexico, menudo has won out.

Clever!
 
2005-05-22 01:49:05 PM
I had an F cup by the time I was 12. Am now a GG cup...yes, boys, that's an H cup.


//////too bad I'm a lesbian
 
2005-05-22 01:49:32 PM
*Formats hard drive and says 50 Hail Marys*
 
2005-05-22 01:50:09 PM
Asian trifecta complete, Japan trifecta now in play.

Personally, I think that if a certain topic has gotten 100 Trifectas in the history of Fark, it deserves its own tag.

/Nihon! Nihon! Ganbatte!
 
2005-05-22 01:51:03 PM
C Cup, About 12 or 13 years old. And wearing a push-up top.

/corner cell, please.
 
2005-05-22 01:51:53 PM
RyoShin:

I often wonder if America would be as perverted (on average) if we were as open with sexuality.

I saw a study that showed there was a link between church attendance and number of rapes per capita.

Everyone wants to have sex. If you think sex is evil, then you are either evil, or the person you want to have sex with is evil for temping you. And that's where the problem comes from.
 
2005-05-22 01:52:19 PM
theteacher

Pics?

/had to be said
 
2005-05-22 01:52:31 PM
theteacher:

I had an F cup by the time I was 12. Am now a GG cup...yes, boys, that's an H cup.

//////too bad I'm a lesbian


Large cup size doesn't count if you're fat.

/just guessing
//going to hell
 
2005-05-22 01:53:43 PM
The animated gif at the top of the screen says it all. NSFW!
 
2005-05-22 01:54:44 PM
vulgar_power:

"This is one Japanese import I won't be boycotting," gushed one admirer. Another said, "She doesn't look 11. She's gotta be 18."

isn't it entirely possible that the above statement is true? i mean, this story originated on teh internets, right? right?


That's my theory. Besides, if she looks like she's 18, then there's nothing wrong with being turned on. It's not like the pictures are exploitive, there're just bikini shots.
 
2005-05-22 01:55:22 PM
Farkers have clicked on the above link 12152 times

We sure are a curious bunch...
 
2005-05-22 01:58:40 PM
What's worse? Staring at a picture of an 11 year old and pretending she's 18 or staring at a picture of an 18 year old and pretending she's 11?

/can't decide
//not really atracted to young girls
 
2005-05-22 02:00:20 PM
::Takes a first class seat to hell::
 
2005-05-22 02:00:31 PM
 
2005-05-22 02:01:45 PM
'Yup...she's 11....hips ain't wide enough for 18...'nuther words....she ain't got no swing in her back yard....
 
2005-05-22 02:01:59 PM
We're living in a strange new world where "Japanese Hooters" is no longer an oxymoron.
 
2005-05-22 02:02:02 PM
Such things wouldn't be tolerated in America:

-----------------------

New rules to crack down on child pornography

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Producers of sexually explicit material must be able to prove the subjects depicted in their photographs and films are adults, according to new government regulations approved Tuesday by Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

To implement a government crackdown, Gonzales signed final rules that establish detailed procedures for inspecting pornography producers' records to ensure children aren't being used as performers in sexually explicit depictions.

Pornography producers who violate the new requirements would be subject to prison terms of up to five years on the first offense and up to 10 years for subsequent offenses.

Porn producers must keep detailed records that verify the identity and age of each individual depicted. The new regulations, to be published in the Federal Register, also update the definition of "pornography producers" to include producers of visual depictions of sexually explicit conduct published on the Internet.

The regulations implement recent congressionally-approved amendments to the Child Protection and Obscenity Enforcement Act, which President Bush signed into law in 2003.


- http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/17/childporn.regs/index.html
 
2005-05-22 02:04:39 PM
Conversion chart...though still large, not US "F".
 
2005-05-22 02:05:40 PM
From the PROTECT Act of 2003:


SEC. 504. OBSCENE CHILD PORNOGRAPHY.

(a) IN GENERAL- Chapter 71 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after section 1466 the following:
`Sec. 1466A. Obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children


`(a) IN GENERAL- Any person who, in a circumstance described in subsection (d), knowingly produces, distributes, receives, or possesses with intent to distribute, a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that--

`(1)(A) depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and

`(B) is obscene; or

`(2)(A) depicts an image that is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in graphic bestiality, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex; and

`(B) lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value;

or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be subject to the penalties provided in section 2252A(b)(1), including the penalties provided for cases involving a prior conviction.

`(b) ADDITIONAL OFFENSES- Any person who, in a circumstance described in subsection (d), knowingly possesses a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that--

`(1)(A) depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and

`(B) is obscene; or

`(2)(A) depicts an image that is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in graphic bestiality, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex; and

`(B) lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value;

or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be subject to the penalties provided in section 2252A(b)(2), including the penalties provided for cases involving a prior conviction.

`(c) NONREQUIRED ELEMENT OF OFFENSE- It is not a required element of any offense under this section that the minor depicted actually exist.

`(d) CIRCUMSTANCES- The circumstance referred to in subsections (a) and (b) is that--

`(1) any communication involved in or made in furtherance of the offense is communicated or transported by the mail, or in interstate or foreign commerce by any means, including by computer, or any means or instrumentality of interstate or foreign commerce is otherwise used in committing or in furtherance of the commission of the offense;

`(2) any communication involved in or made in furtherance of the offense contemplates the transmission or transportation of a visual depiction by the mail, or in interstate or foreign commerce by any means, including by computer;

`(3) any person travels or is transported in interstate or foreign commerce in the course of the commission or in furtherance of the commission of the offense;

`(4) any visual depiction involved in the offense has been mailed, or has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce by any means, including by computer, or was produced using materials that have been mailed, or that have been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce by any means, including by computer; or

`(5) the offense is committed in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in any territory or possession of the United States.

`(e) AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE- It shall be an affirmative defense to a charge of violating subsection (b) that the defendant--

`(1) possessed less than 3 such visual depictions; and

`(2) promptly and in good faith, and without retaining or allowing any person, other than a law enforcement agency, to access any such visual depiction--

`(A) took reasonable steps to destroy each such visual depiction; or

`(B) reported the matter to a law enforcement agency and afforded that agency access to each such visual depiction.

[Bold ours.]
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You can look up the public law yourself at the Library of Congress: http://thomas.loc.gov/
 
2005-05-22 02:05:59 PM
This has future Law & Order: Special Victims Unit written ALL OVER IT.

I bet dollars to donuts that Stabler roughs up the guy taking these pics of the girl.
 
2005-05-22 02:06:35 PM
Fecal Pandore If you go to hell for that I'll buy you a beer. I'll be the one standing over by the lake of fire screaming and gnashing my teeth.
 
2005-05-22 02:06:35 PM
This girl, who is over 18, is a Japanese J I think
 
2005-05-22 02:07:55 PM
Hmmm....

Isn't the age of consent in Japan like 15?

/Four more years!
//Has Asian feaver
///Deveopling Asian plague
 
2005-05-22 02:09:51 PM

/Oh, that said F-'cupped'...
 
2005-05-22 02:09:55 PM
tonesskin:

Her parents should have been drawn and quartered because they let her wear a skimpy bikini, but the people who couldn't keep their eyes off of her were ok?

Hmmmm. Seems like it should be the other way around if any way at all.


And how exactly are they to know her age?
 
2005-05-22 02:10:29 PM
GIS for 'big' tits' 'Asian' = 5420 results.
 
Yst
2005-05-22 02:12:25 PM
Yeah, 11 years old is officially against the rules on pretty much any terms whatsoever and according to virtually all imaginable measures of good taste.

I mean, the way I think about it, personal moral objections aside, looking at it solely from the perspective of Canadian law, sure, 16 year olds are legal regardless of circumstance, and sure, 14 year olds are legal as long as one isn't in a position of power, and sure, 12 year olds are legal if the other partny is no older than 14, but 11 is illegal absolutely no matter what, and I figure for good reason.
 
2005-05-22 02:12:30 PM
NokNoKCPU

1) In the pictures being discussed, there is no nudity (and even if there were, that doesn't make it child porn). There is no depiction of explicit conduct (this usually means sex, masturbation, grabbing of boobies, shots clearly meant to draw attention to genitals).

2) The Supreme Court has already overturned several parts of this law you posted. For one, they have thrown out the "appears to be" a child. What does that mean? Does that mean that if I look at a 40 year old with a sucker and a diaper, I'm looking at child porn? Or an 18 year old who hasn't fully matured? So the appears to be has been thrown away.

3) The SLAPS quotient is a very important point, and no, that doesn't mean how much the pictures make someone masturbate (serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value)

4) The cartoon stuff was laughed out of court, as was the bolded part. How can it be child porn if there is no child (the laws are meant to protect children, not cartoons). The court also asked Congress how one would actually AGE a cartoon!

There was once a law that black people couldn't vote. I could post that law, but it doesn't mean it is still in effect.
 
2005-05-22 02:13:32 PM
They'll be saggy before she's old enough.
 
2005-05-22 02:14:40 PM
2005-05-22 05:28:11 AM offers1999 [TotalFark]

Shouldn't that get the "sick" lable?

No, she's pretty hot.
 
2005-05-22 02:15:16 PM
correction

The court has overturned OTHER laws that state "appears to be." The protect act may not have been fought in court yet, but the wording is similar to COPA and CPOE which have been overturned. I'm looking for the PROTECT act, but since the wording is almost identical to other laws that have been overturned, it basically is a no-issue.
 
2005-05-22 02:15:23 PM
2005-05-22 01:44:12 PM LiPPoPeR
Nice! Why can't the United States do the same? Here's Pamela Anderson. Now hand over the oil!

Wow, infect our enemies with hepatitis! The Brits did that with "Ho's For Huns" but I always admire germ warfare...
 
2005-05-22 02:15:59 PM
NokNoKCPU:
Such things wouldn't be tolerated in America

Sure they would, you just have to follow US CODE: Title 18,2257.

Big_Sexy:
For the record, this is an F cup here in the US.
God bless America.


You forgot Poland!
 
2005-05-22 02:16:09 PM
You can say "she's not 11" all you want, but she is nowhere near 18. 13 tops, and I'd put at least even money on 11.
 
2005-05-22 02:16:22 PM
Someone get that girl a burqa!
 
2005-05-22 02:17:27 PM
I hate it when fat girls brag about their GG or H breasts. It doesn't matter how big they are if the rest of you looks like a blob. I think the perfect size is a large B or a small C.

Those pics are just disturbing.
 
2005-05-22 02:17:43 PM
Looks like a D-cup to me (which may well equate to a Japanese F-cup). She also looks to be about 13; she hasn't got no hips, but she's still got a skinny kid body. Her being 11 is certainly not out of the question, but her being 18 is.

It strikes me that she may *have* to wear bikinis (so she can buy different size tops and bottoms); I'm guessing it's pretty damn hard to find a one-piece that fits a D-cup kid's size. Her parents still shouldn't be putting photos of her all over the internet, though.
 
2005-05-22 02:19:59 PM
tonesskin

1) In the pictures being discussed, there is no nudity (and even if there were, that doesn't make it child porn). There is no depiction of explicit conduct (this usually means sex, masturbation, grabbing of boobies, shots clearly meant to draw attention to genitals).

Granted. However, I wanted to educate the general public about the new child pornography laws laws.

2) The Supreme Court has already overturned several parts of this law you posted. For one, they have thrown out the "appears to be" a child. What does that mean? Does that mean that if I look at a 40 year old with a sucker and a diaper, I'm looking at child porn? Or an 18 year old who hasn't fully matured? So the appears to be has been thrown away.

Incorrect. The Supreme Court threw out in 2002 a 1996 virtual child pornography law (http://archives.cnn.com/2002/LAW/04/16/scotus.virtual.child.porn/index.html). The PROTECT Act of 2003 that I speak of is still currently in effect, as they have prosecuted a man by the name of Dwight Whorley under these laws (http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/vae/ArchivePress/MarchPDFArchive/05/32505WhorleyPR.p df).

3) The SLAPS quotient is a very important point, and no, that doesn't mean how much the pictures make someone masturbate (serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value)

See above.

4) The cartoon stuff was laughed out of court, as was the bolded part. How can it be child porn if there is no child (the laws are meant to protect children, not cartoons). The court also asked Congress how one would actually AGE a cartoon!

Again, please refer to:
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/vae/ArchivePress/MarchPDFArchive/05/32505WhorleyPR.p df
 
2005-05-22 02:20:43 PM
No way anyone could really mistake her for 18, unless they were trying hard to convince themselves of it.

/wouldn't serve alcohol to her in a bar even if she had ID that said she was 18 (Legal drinking age in Quebec, Canada) even if the manager told him to, let alone hit it.
//would take daily cold showers until she was legal, 'cause doesn't want to even have a chance to go to jail and be labelled a "Sexual Predator" for the rest of his days
///some of those pictures... not porn, but definately trying to be erotic. Definately not innocent pictures.
////wouldn't let any child of that age pose for those kinds of pictures, even if they're not nude.
 
2005-05-22 02:21:00 PM
Saaya Irie

Birth Nov 15 , 1993 Fukuoka-ken Japan
Height 4'10" Measurement 30-22-32 Blood A
T145cm B73cm(F-cup) W56cm H79cm

She was 11 when they took those pics.
 
2005-05-22 02:21:35 PM
Says she's 12 on one of the pages. Definitely not an F cup.
 
2005-05-22 02:21:55 PM
she immediately caused a sensation.

C'mon--way too easy. Even for someone like me.


/first class window seat.
 
2005-05-22 02:23:38 PM


"We'd travel to the year 2012, then hit it most excellently!!!"
 
2005-05-22 02:26:56 PM
You know a couple thousand years ago it was not uncommon for girls this age to be married to 36 year old men. Just sayin'..
 
2005-05-22 02:28:21 PM
Well, if Dwight doesn't get the sentence overturned on appeal, then I will be VERY surprised. So far the Supreme Court has stated very clearly that you can't figure out the age of a cartoon. I mean, Minnie Mouse has been "naked" before. We'll see if it holds up.

I have a research interest in obscenity law--for scholastic reasons. It is one of the few areas where the court has said the First Amendment doesn't give protection, but it is sometimes hard to prove. I appreciate you posting this law, as I have not heard of it. I think it will be interesting to see how this plays out, but if a single juror can figure out the age of a cartoon, they are pretty impressive.
 
2005-05-22 02:29:36 PM
Swim suits are the devil's work now?
 
2005-05-22 02:32:31 PM
tonesskin


Well, if Dwight doesn't get the sentence overturned on appeal, then I will be VERY surprised. So far the Supreme Court has stated very clearly that you can't figure out the age of a cartoon. I mean, Minnie Mouse has been "naked" before. We'll see if it holds up.

I have a research interest in obscenity law--for scholastic reasons. It is one of the few areas where the court has said the First Amendment doesn't give protection, but it is sometimes hard to prove. I appreciate you posting this law, as I have not heard of it. I think it will be interesting to see how this plays out, but if a single juror can figure out the age of a cartoon, they are pretty impressive.


I'm hoping that he'll take his case to the Supreme Court and that they'll have that portion of the Act overturned. However, if they prosecute him... well, it sets a precedent.

I'm also a scholar, and I feel as though we should be concerned about this matter. After all... I am a fan of Japanese animation, and -- more often than not -- Japanse animation will have situations in which the characters are under the age of eighteen and are in sexual situations. Would that count as obscenity? Or even child pornography? In the future, it may. That will be a dark day.
 
2005-05-22 02:32:53 PM
She's very attractive.

Would I hit it? No, because I have a certain ingrained wish not to get imprisoned.

If the Law were different? Maybe, depends on a lot of factors, not least of which is consent.

It also depends on her actual emotional and mental maturity, although:

So how does Saaya feel about all the commotion? A bit frightened, actually, an official at her talent agency says .

"She had a worried look on her face and said, 'I'm shocked. I wish they'd stop,' " the official quotes the starlet as saying when hearing the news.


She sounds like she has a lot of common sense and a strong enough personality not to be bowled over by all of this.

It's also worth noting that she isn't from the US culture of Sexual repression/innocence until 18 - she's probably well aware of gender, sexuality, morality and the practical aspects, probably much moreso than an american girl of her age or even 4 years older.


For reference, as a trained (degree holding) historian and cultural anthropologist, I can point out right away that girls were usually married and likely had children by the age of 12 or 13 in almost all cultures across the world. The idea that people (men and women) shouldn't be sexually active until 18 is a recent one, in terms of world history.

I'd also like to point out that cultures that have an open policy of sexuality and gender studies in the early stages of education tend to have a lower incidence of teenage pregnancy, teenage abortion, sexual abuse of teens (because they know how and when to say "no") and a generally more balanced outlook at life than the repressive (and hypocritical) ideology of the modern US.
 
2005-05-22 02:34:59 PM
 
2005-05-22 02:36:01 PM
d_money

You know a couple thousand years ago it was not uncommon for girls this age to be married to 36 year old men. Just sayin'..

It wasn't uncommon even 60 years ago. It was practivally the norm only 200 years ago.

/damn the victorians
 
2005-05-22 02:41:00 PM
holy mother of God: tokyotopless.com Asami (NSFW)
 
2005-05-22 02:47:46 PM
I noticed no one has drawn attention to the fact that in the first link provided (zorpia) the title says she is 12, looks like we only have to wait 6 years not 7
 
2005-05-22 02:49:24 PM
Most historians would put Mary, mother of Jesus, at around 14 years of age when she gave birth as that was about the average age of motherhood during that time frame.

Obviously now it's not a good idea at all to have a kid at 14 but it goes to show that it has nothing to do with 'absolute morality' or being old enough to understand sex, but rather societal expectations and conditioning.
 
2005-05-22 02:49:34 PM
ahhh, boobies, is there anything they cant do?
 
2005-05-22 02:51:09 PM
Zyklon B. Goode

Give her an octopus.

Bloody hell, not again.  Sigh.
 
2005-05-22 02:51:41 PM
d_money

You know a couple thousand years ago it was not uncommon for girls this age to be married to 36 year old men. Just sayin'..

I love the random number there. Do you happen to be 36?
 
2005-05-22 02:52:47 PM
SkArcher

It's also worth noting that she isn't from the US culture of Sexual repression/innocence until 18 - she's probably well aware of gender, sexuality, morality and the practical aspects, probably much moreso than an american girl of her age or even 4 years older.

For reference, as a trained (degree holding) historian and cultural anthropologist, I can point out right away that girls were usually married and likely had children by the age of 12 or 13 in almost all cultures across the world. The idea that people (men and women) shouldn't be sexually active until 18 is a recent one, in terms of world history.

I'd also like to point out that cultures that have an open policy of sexuality and gender studies in the early stages of education tend to have a lower incidence of teenage pregnancy, teenage abortion, sexual abuse of teens (because they know how and when to say "no") and a generally more balanced outlook at life than the repressive (and hypocritical) ideology of the modern US.


You're spot on.
 
2005-05-22 02:53:18 PM
SirPeteTheGreat:

As stated before, sizes do run differently in Japan, and yes, that is about a Japanese F-cup. For comparison, a Japanese J-cup is about the same as an American F. (There isn't a direct correlation because of metrics, etc)

They just feel inferior to our f cups and use that to make them feel better, just like the men say they are 10cm.
 
2005-05-22 02:53:57 PM
What's the advantage of doing an 11 year old in the shower?

Slick her hair back and she looks 10.
 
2005-05-22 02:56:07 PM
Yay...TokyoTopless finally made it into a thread...been visiting that site for years.

This girl is most certainly an F cup. She only has a 30-inch chest. If those were on a 36-inch frame, they'd be a "nearly B" or something.

/Has a 34C g/f who thought she was a 36 "nearly-B"
//would hit that in 2011
///will be 36 by then, probably so will she...HA
 
2005-05-22 02:56:33 PM
fuzzycuffs:

Saaya Irie

Birth Nov 15 , 1993 Fukuoka-ken Japan
Height 4'10" Measurement 30-22-32 Blood A
T145cm B73cm(F-cup) W56cm H79cm

She was 11 when they took those pics.


Blood type A chicks are so hot....

Seriously, why the fark is that included?
 
2005-05-22 02:56:40 PM
ugh. There's just something. . "off" about Japanese women's faces. Not a pretty race of people.
 
2005-05-22 02:56:51 PM
Most historians would put Mary, mother of Jesus, at around 14 years of age when she gave birth

Was she eligible for welfare and free government cheese?
 
2005-05-22 02:57:24 PM
I looked at the photos ... but just for research purposes.
 
2005-05-22 02:59:43 PM
Fish in a Barrel:

Seriously, why the fark is that included?

Blood type is said to represent personality over in Japan. To mercilessly steal from some website Google churned out:
Type O -- calm, patient, in control of their emotions, strong-willed, unyielding and full of self-confidence despite a quiet appearance.

Type A -- reserved, mild-mannered, full of worry, indecisive, cautious, deeply moved by things, uncombative and self-sacrificing.

Type B -- cheerful, independent, light-hearted, talkative, sensitive, sociable, caring and flamboyant.

Type AB -- Group B on the outside, but group A on the inside.
 
2005-05-22 03:02:45 PM
Admiral Ackbar's Kunt Smells Like Fish:

2005-05-22 02:56:40 PM Admiral Ackbar's Kunt Smells Like Fish

ugh. There's just something. . "off" about Japanese women's faces. Not a pretty race of people.



Just about the most retarded comment I've read all day.
Thanks, Kunt.
 
2005-05-22 03:04:04 PM
Switchblade, I believe the joke is, What's the great thing about having sex with an eleven year old girl in the shower? Get her hair wet and she looks just like a ten year old boy.
 
2005-05-22 03:04:29 PM
"Just easing the tension, baby.."
"Well, ease it on someone else!"



obligatory...
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2005-05-22 03:05:55 PM
You know a couple thousand years ago it was not uncommon for girls this age to be married to 36 year old men. Just sayin'..

36? Are you sure only 36? Think she'd be willing to go a year older?
 
2005-05-22 03:09:20 PM
Better jail bait than masterbate

/One please, non-smoking
 
2005-05-22 03:10:53 PM
I'd hit it if I were a pedophile.

or knew there's no hell.

or 11 years old.

/going to hell
//Boobies evar
///looking for legal busty asians
 
2005-05-22 03:12:42 PM
And when the other inmates find out what you're in for, you'll have all the sex you can handle.
 
2005-05-22 03:13:04 PM
Um, that girl isn't 11. I think this is a hoax.


ugh. There's just something. . "off" about Japanese women's faces. Not a pretty race of people.

You may need an eye exam.

Blood type A chicks are so hot....

Seriously, why the fark is that included


In Japan, blood type = "What's your sign?"
 
2005-05-22 03:14:30 PM
I read the article, clicked a few links and scanned 176 comments ... and I still have absolutely no idea what to think of this. It's not child pr0n, no ... but it still gives me the willies seeing it.
 
2005-05-22 03:21:48 PM
sir_devious:
Congrats on your first filter pwnage.
 
2005-05-22 03:25:17 PM
why is this a big deal? If you masturbate thinking about an 11-year-old girl you saw on the beach, and the girl had a full woman's body, then who cares. You're not a sicko for lookin', you're not a sicko for jerkin', you're only a sicko of you try to hit it.
 
2005-05-22 03:27:07 PM
But certainly not lost on Fark.com. They knew exactly what to do with it.

Why, Fark it, of course.

/ Oh, by the way, just in case you were wondering, it's farked.
 
2005-05-22 03:27:24 PM
I've said it before, I'll say it again..
I think we all need to brush up on our ABCs...

The ABC's of Boobs
A is for Athletic
B is for Bouncy
C is for Cuddly
D is for Delightful
E is for Enormous
F is for Fantastic
G is for Grrrrrrrrreaaat!!
H is for Hot damn!
I is for I love em
J is for Jiggly
K is for Knockers
L is for Lovely
M is for M-azing
N is for Naughty
O is for Oh my!
P is for Perky
Q is for 'Quipped
R is for Really grrrrrrrrrrrrreaaat!!!
S is for Stupifying
T is for Take it off
U is for Unbelievable
V is for Very nice
W is for WOW!!!
X is for XXX
Y is for Yowzers!
Z is for Zonkers!

Now I know my ABCs
Won't you let me have a squeeze?
 
2005-05-22 03:27:48 PM

What's Chinese and Japanese for "I'd hit it"?


/one ticket please

 
2005-05-22 03:29:57 PM
I read Fark for the comments.
 
2005-05-22 03:29:59 PM
This little girl is the chosen one! She shall finally bring balance to the bust.
 
2005-05-22 03:36:02 PM


Good lord.
 
2005-05-22 03:39:02 PM
Admiral Ackbar's Kunt Smells Like Fish:

ugh. There's just something. . "off" about Japanese women's faces. Not a pretty race of people.

The Japanese say the same about you. Perhaps living in Nazi Germany would be more your style. Asshat.
 
2005-05-22 03:44:02 PM
Those who are interested should take a stroll through the Forest of Breast. That is all (no further details).
 
2005-05-22 03:46:44 PM
WhatTheHellAreYouLookingAt:
"We'd travel to the year 2012, then hit it most excellently!!!"

Bwahahahahaha. You win.
 
2005-05-22 03:48:06 PM
A salute to world peace & girls breasts, especially if their F- cup :)
She is hot but then most asian girls are .
 
2005-05-22 03:55:57 PM
This thread is useless without child pornography.
 
2005-05-22 03:59:56 PM
PhoenixSpirit001:

2005-05-22 02:59:43 PM PhoenixSpirit001

Fish in a Barrel:

Seriously, why the fark is that included?

Blood type is said to represent personality over in Japan. To mercilessly steal from some website Google churned out:
Type O -- calm, patient, in control of their emotions, strong-willed, unyielding and full of self-confidence despite a quiet appearance.

Type A -- reserved, mild-mannered, full of worry, indecisive, cautious, deeply moved by things, uncombative and self-sacrificing.

Type B -- cheerful, independent, light-hearted, talkative, sensitive, sociable, caring and flamboyant.

Type AB -- Group B on the outside, but group A on the inside.


Not sure if it's the same in Korea, but I was told recently that asking about one's blood type is also prevalent there, and depending on the answer, a girl may or may not be interested in you.


/nothing similar in HK.
 
2005-05-22 03:59:59 PM
Hit it I would, yes....

/she looks old enough to me
 
2005-05-22 04:00:40 PM
fuzzycuffs

Saaya Irie

Birth Nov 15 , 1993 Fukuoka-ken Japan
Height 4'10" Measurement 30-22-32 Blood A
T145cm B73cm(F-cup) W56cm H79cm

She was 11 when they took those pics.


She is still 11. She will not be 12 until November.
 
2005-05-22 04:01:33 PM
She is hot but then most asian girls are.

No doubt- so I married one. It is always hard to tell age with many Asians gals too. They look young for a long time, it seems. My wife used to pride herself that no one could accurately guess her age when I first met her. She asked me to guess. I did. And I guessed right (26). She was bummed- but it got her to pay attention to me. :>)
 
2005-05-22 04:01:52 PM
BadGerb

The Japanese say the same about you. Perhaps living in Nazi Germany would be more your style. Asshat.

You're either a troll, a child, or a plain idiot. He said he doesn't find them attractive. Grow up.
 
2005-05-22 04:07:20 PM
That is most definately no larger than a B, possibly even an A. Its all about presentation.

/yellow fever
 
2005-05-22 04:07:40 PM
oh god I said I don't like Japanese women! I must be a Nazi!! u have figured me out!!!111
 
2005-05-22 04:09:47 PM
Puni Puni Poemy finally makes her life-action appearance....

(starts packing to head for the hills)

Hey, I'm merely pointing it out. I've done nothing wrong here.....
 
2005-05-22 04:11:38 PM
Mappy4prez

Puni Puni Poemy finally makes her life-action appearance....

That's a great anime.
 
2005-05-22 04:12:52 PM
Asian girls are gorgeous. More so because many of them look like teen-agers well into their thirties. (Then it goes down hill fast from there.)

Youth is sexy...but let's be civilized.

11 year olds should be getting an educations so that they might make more interesting geisha's and prostitutes when they get older.

I like to engage in some intellectual conversation after blowing a load of hot American Freedom onto her forehead.

Weeeeeeeee!!
 
2005-05-22 04:13:39 PM
There is beauty in the female form at every age. One can admire the body of an 11-year old girl with an F-cup and not be sexually aroused. That person is gay, obviously, but nonetheless it is still possible.
 
2005-05-22 04:13:48 PM
Funny that no one mentions that they always fuzz out the fuzz in their pictures, an American Playboy magazine would be totally banned pronography in Japan.

I remember seeing Woodstock in a Tokyo theater in 1970ish, they censored (cut) the scene with the 'honey truck' driver as it was deemed disrepectful to a noble profession.

My point is each culture is unique and uniquely weird in it's own way.

mb
 
2005-05-22 04:15:44 PM
SAMARA!
 
2005-05-22 04:16:40 PM
God, I love japanese women. Small boobs, small figure, great skin...

For example. (NSFW)
 
2005-05-22 04:17:07 PM
Admiral Ackbar's Kunt Smells Like Fish:

2005-05-22 04:07:40 PM Admiral Ackbar's Kunt Smells Like Fish

oh god I said I don't like Japanese women! I must be a Nazi!! u have figured me out!!!111



Nah, actually you were a bit more precise about why you dislike Japanese woman.

Something which could have applied to any race, obviously.

But, hey, you're the Kunt, so why argue with your dislikes.

I find a lot of western woman repulsive, what with that excessive obesity thing going on. Very unhumanlike fuglys.
 
2005-05-22 04:20:37 PM
 
2005-05-22 04:21:25 PM
This is no worse then the parents of American children who allow their kids to dress like two dollar hookers.

I can't count how many 8-year-olds and up, I've seen at my son's school wearing pants with words written across the buttocks. The really bad thing is that I live in SC, so many of them read "Go Cocks" in support of the Carolina Gamecocks.

Whoever even makes clothing like that in kid's sizes needs to be skinned alive and fed to rabid dogs.

As the for little girl in these pictures, I don't care what her body looks like, her face and eyes are that of a child. She's still a baby and yet because of her stupid parents she's got thousands of perverts wanking off to her picture. Great way to rob a child of their innocence.
 
2005-05-22 04:21:49 PM
GungFu: So you're going to show him he's a racist by saying something racist yourself? You're both tools.

I like both Asian and Western girls, just not blacks.
 
2005-05-22 04:21:51 PM
Hyernel:

Your point is well taken until the "goes down hill fast" after the 30s... my mom-in-law is 62... and let's just say my wife is lucky I met her first.

/one count: sick

And, the posted pic of the 11 year old? What is with the comments that those hips are "11 year old" hips. Don't look like it to me.

/two counts: sick
 
2005-05-22 04:23:15 PM
Also some good shots at at-misty.com and lazy.exteen.com if anyone's interested.

What you're basically looking at here is a place where biology gets crossed up with the law.

In 1905, the average girl reached menarche at 15.9 years, so it was easy enough to stall her off a couple of years through the courting process.

Today, that number averages 11.9 years, and the length of education to acquire adult career skills has increased dramatically. So you're looking at 10 years, not 2, during which you've got a horny-as-hell girl on your hands.

The solution is for the lawmakers to grow up, but that would require admitting there are things over which they have no control; not likely!
 
2005-05-22 04:23:42 PM
the_chief:

God, I love japanese women. Small boobs, small figure, great skin...

For example. (NSFW)


Damn you, the_chief... damn you
 
2005-05-22 04:24:16 PM
SquishedFaeries

As the for little girl in these pictures, I don't care what her body looks like, her face and eyes are that of a child. She's still a baby and yet because of her stupid parents she's got thousands of perverts wanking off to her picture. Great way to rob a child of their innocence.

I understand your concern, and there is some merit to your argument, but I think we've already established that even though they might be young, they are by no means innocent. They do observe the world and have quite a keen understanding of it.

If you read the article, you can tell that Saaya is articulate and thoughtful.
 
2005-05-22 04:26:19 PM
Where are the hot 11 year old boys
 
2005-05-22 04:26:23 PM
Ok...we've got legal experts in here on child porn, guys speculating if they'd hit it with a 11 year old, wow must be Sunday....

1) Age of consent varies wildly between countries and if you are in the U.S. between states. Whether you are married is also a factor--there are states in the U.S. that you can engage in a sex act with a female 17 years of age and do hard prison time, yet same female, same act with your wedding ring on her finger and the worst that will happen is that the cops will ask you to keep the noise down.

2) Whether or not someone is old enough to actually consent to sexually explicit pictures is really a widely variable thing. The government institutes a total arbitary age at which this can take place, erring on the side of caution.

3) What constitutes "sexually explicit" has a MAJOR grey zone legally and whether or not you can be prosecuted for possessing a piece of porn cannot be guaranteed. Most often prosecutors go after the makers and the major distributors of things that are clearly child porn, and do not prefer charges against people with a few "grey" images. Therefore most often when you see someone getting put on trial of possessing child porn, it wasn't because they took some naked pictures of their 5 year old in the bath tub. That said, in the U.S. your Constitutional rights are pretty much thrown in the shiatter the moment prosecutors files charges. Your computer WILL be seized, and even if you are eventually found not guilty, the expense, public humiliation, ruined relationships, loss of job, and loss of property will make you feel as though you are guilty. The bottomline is this: if you want to be safe, never take naked pics of your kids, your relative's kids or your friends kids, no matter how innocent, and never visit porn sites that advertise underaged nude models or people who appear to be underaged nude models as part of their content.

4) Lastly, as a matter of practicality, forgetting the usual social taboos, it's unlikely that an 11 or 12 year old female is going to fully appreciate the impications of sexual intercourse, and if you are "lucky" enough to plant the "golden BB", and she gets pregnant, she faces a VERY tough pregancy. Even an abortion would be tricky. Yes, "back in the day" 13 and 14 year old females married older men. Even back then, people recognized the critical physical changes that took places between 11-12 to 13-14, and generally did not marry off their daughter any younger than 13-14, except in a strictly ceremonial sense.

Lastly, I see nothing wrong with looking at pictures...they are afterall only that. However, I also recognize that there are real situations that occur of exploitation and those are illegal for a reason.

--h
 
2005-05-22 04:27:33 PM
Did someone say rob a child of their inocence? queue the michael jackson photoshops...
 
2005-05-22 04:27:49 PM
i'd hit it twice then take her to kindergarden!
 
2005-05-22 04:30:17 PM
beernuts:

2005-05-22 04:21:49 PM beernuts [TotalFark]

GungFu: So you're going to show him he's a racist by saying something racist yourself? You're both tools.

I like both Asian and Western girls, just not blacks.



I don't believe I said anything racist.

I specified what I don't like about certain Western women, but the other fellow specified soley the Japanese, and the way they looked.

There's a difference. Read the posts again before you call anyone a tool - kinda makes you stupid, y'know?

I like all pretty girls. Enough for ya?
 
2005-05-22 04:33:09 PM
I had a friend in jr high with bigger breasts than this girl, and her life was misery. These photos fall just short of kiddie porn, IMO. The parents of this girl should stop taking these pictures and exploiting her. If this is what she's doing at 11, it'll be tentacle porn by 16. Seriously, not cool.
 
2005-05-22 04:36:01 PM
Congratulations, Fark Community! For viewing these links, we all now have open files with Interpol!
 
2005-05-22 04:37:13 PM
ITEM: Fully grown adult male lusting after 11-year-old girl with ecxceptionally well-developed body; VERDICT: pevert, kiddie molester.

ITEM: Fully grown adult male doing sex acts with 11-year-old boy; VERDICT: Just another alternative lifestyle.

Yep, double standard as usual. . . . .
 
2005-05-22 04:38:53 PM
First, Hell is where all the fun people are. I'm your bus driver, nice to meet you, now sit down, shut up and no complaining until we get there.

Scond, due to the propaganda element of this whole setup, I'm calling bullshiat on the Japanese and asing for official picture ID's, birth certificate and her and her parents records. Girls getting some boobs when they're 11 or 12 (or younger) is one thing, but I find it hard to believe that she has fully developed breasts of that size at 11. She must've had beef force-fed to her and HGH pumped through her veins or something if that really is the case.
 
2005-05-22 04:39:50 PM
2005-05-22 04:37:13 PM olddinosaur

ya forgot...

ITEM: full grown adult female doing whatever she wants with an 11yr old, gets married later in life to this father of her kids. VERDICT: *everyone shrugs*

 
2005-05-22 04:40:25 PM
beernuts
didnt see that one coming, and neither did my ass when I fell backwards out of my chair. so wrong yet so funny
 
2005-05-22 04:40:49 PM
LandoGriffin: "Congratulations, Fark Community! For viewing these links, we all now have open files with Interpol!"

Wouldn't be the first time...
 
2005-05-22 04:40:57 PM
sentient_being

You're either a troll, a child, or a plain idiot. He said he doesn't find them attractive. Grow up.

Well, actually he said something more along the lines of something is "wrong" with Japanese women's faces. But, whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.
 
2005-05-22 04:42:06 PM
 
2005-05-22 04:42:21 PM
 
2005-05-22 04:42:57 PM
Ok really need to refresh before posting...
 
2005-05-22 04:43:23 PM
GungFu

I also find vaginas repulsive. They smell funny and look horrific. I suppose that also makes me a Nazi who wants to exterminate all women.

Go sit in the corner, dumbass. You just got pwn3d by multiple posters.

All the fatty haters are also Nazis right? It's ok for a white guy to say he doesn't like white chicks and that asian chicks are much prettier, but if he says the reverse, he's a Nazi.

Again, go sit in the corner, dumbass.
 
2005-05-22 04:45:21 PM
ITEM: Female teacher seduces 12-year-old kid, does some time, bears 2 of his children, marries him and sells the story to the tabloids for $3 million or so, along with books and TV specials; VERDICT: not quite as stupid as she seems!

Averages out to $300,000 a year. . . . .
 
jre
2005-05-22 04:45:55 PM
theteacher
I had an F cup by the time I was 12. Am now a GG cup...yes, boys, that's an H cup.
//////too bad I'm a lesbian


Regardless, pix plz
 
2005-05-22 04:47:24 PM
drakkinor

Well, actually he said something more along the lines of something is "wrong" with Japanese women's faces. But, whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.

Yes, and clearly in the context of his attraction to them. Boy, IQs are really hitting rock bottom in this thread with the hypersensitive crowd.
 
2005-05-22 04:49:39 PM
You cliche kunt sniffer, don't you know that we have to like everyone?!

/jk
//i have to take a cold shower now...
///damn you! cheif
 
2005-05-22 04:49:41 PM
Admiral Ackbar's Kunt Smells Like Fish:

I also find vaginas repulsive. They smell funny and look horrific.

but a man's chocolate starfish is enticing ?

/confused.

 
2005-05-22 04:50:57 PM
 
2005-05-22 04:51:58 PM
I also find vaginas repulsive. They smell funny and look horrific. I suppose that also makes me a Nazi who wants to exterminate all women.

No, that makes you gay.
 
2005-05-22 04:52:30 PM
Admiral Ackbar's Kunt Smells Like Fish:

2005-05-22 04:43:23 PM Admiral Ackbar's Kunt Smells Like Fish

GungFu

I also find vaginas repulsive. They smell funny and look horrific. I suppose that also makes me a Nazi who wants to exterminate all women.

Go sit in the corner, dumbass. You just got pwn3d by multiple posters.

All the fatty haters are also Nazis right? It's ok for a white guy to say he doesn't like white chicks and that asian chicks are much prettier, but if he says the reverse, he's a Nazi.

Again, go sit in the corner, dumbass.


Overuse of the word, 'dumbass' there, bud.

Multiple? I think you'll find Bearnut was yanking a semi-jokey chain.

Still, you're the Kunt, and I'm happy with my Chinese girlfriend, so what do I care about your - newly revealed - hatred of all females' love tunnels?

Ho Hum.
 
2005-05-22 04:52:32 PM
No Kunt you are not a Nazi...an Idiot in my humble opinion but not a Nazi.
 
2005-05-22 04:52:48 PM
come on guys, dont feel TOO bad, she is probably closer to 12, and the age of consent in Japan is 13. So she classifies as a "Jail Bait/Almost legal".


I guess we all know what her "profession" is goign to be in 2 years, right?
 
2005-05-22 04:53:51 PM
vegasj

well, if you must know. . I'm what they call a "bottom boy." Starpunching isn't really my thing, although I do enjoy get my star punched. gently.

But a man's wet mouth is certainly enticing. And, as I briefly experimented with heterosexuality. . . .men are much better orally pleasuring a man.

/monogomous relationships only, won't fukk till we've both been tested
/is this a threadjack? I'll stop now
 
2005-05-22 04:56:38 PM
Admiral Ackbar's Kunt Smells Like Fish:

I also find vaginas repulsive. They smell funny and look horrific


I ahh must of missed that one before I had your back.

you must be teh gay. Stick to men and imaginary fish, and don't comment on a race of women if you have a problem with the pussy to begin with.
 
2005-05-22 05:00:09 PM
EatTheWorld:

you must be teh gay. Stick to men and imaginary fish, and don't comment on a race of women if you have a problem with the pussy to begin with.


Why? His point was obviously to engineer an opening for his shock statement.

So AAKSLF happy now? Blow a load or something?
 
2005-05-22 05:04:38 PM
I feel slightly dirtied and confused by Mr.Kunt's sudden revelation.

Not remotely as funny nor witty as Beernut's reveal that he didn't shag blacks.
 
2005-05-22 05:05:16 PM
Asian women = Look like hairy boys
Brazilian women = Look like trannys
Black women = Look like... just unattractive

Am I a Nazi?

And where the hell is Godwin?
 
2005-05-22 05:08:17 PM
If those are F-cups, what size are these? (NSFW)
 
2005-05-22 05:11:35 PM
shiat. Don't click on that link I just posted - it tried to install a dialer. Could a mod please delete it?
 
2005-05-22 05:12:11 PM
You people who this that this is hot, you are all sick, sick freaks.
Look at her! She's 11 freaking years old.
She's way too old. Perverts.
/one way, first class, smoking please.
 
2005-05-22 05:12:39 PM
This thread is useless without...

Yulia?
 
2005-05-22 05:18:01 PM
I would respond to Akbar's disturbing confession, but I can't due to the vomit spewing into my mouth.
 
2005-05-22 05:19:54 PM
binnester,
thanks for the dialer link. I owe you one.
 
2005-05-22 05:22:41 PM
Great Pics, great links,(except for the last two) I really enjoy the farking commentary. Yes, I'd hit it. Now, 6 years from now, 20 years from now.
 
2005-05-22 05:24:58 PM
Oh, Mr. Humbert, I think this link's for you.
 
2005-05-22 05:27:18 PM
thanks scuba doo. you roock
 
2005-05-22 05:27:37 PM


GIS for hot sweaty man love
In honor of the confession
 
2005-05-22 05:33:45 PM
staplermofo: If you want pics, they're here.

What really gets me, is that she doesn't look much different than any other mid 20's Japanese girl.
 
2005-05-22 05:34:31 PM
Borninfire:

I owe you one.


Anytime ;)

 
2005-05-22 05:35:03 PM
She aint got nothing on Yulia Nova

I believe shes 18 now, so a GIS should be safe...

/hears sirens in the distance
 
2005-05-22 05:35:26 PM
How old was Traci Lords when she first started making porn movies?
 
2005-05-22 05:40:09 PM
I'm confused - WHERE did anyone on this lBoobies that adult men assfarking 11-year-old boys is just an acceptable alternative lifestyle?

Answer: only in olddinosaurs's post. Therefore I think we see he is a pervert who likes little boys.
 
2005-05-22 05:45:24 PM
http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/medina.asp

12? Meh! A Peruvian dude says,'beat 5, you prudes'
 
2005-05-22 05:55:20 PM
You people who this that this is hot, you are all sick, sick freaks.
Look at her! She's 11 freaking years old.


Seriously, she isn't 11. I think Fark has been duped by a hoax. Japanese girls don't look older than they actually are; they look younger. Also, if that girl actually is 11, which I am sure is not the case, her parents need to be beaten with bamboo sticks.
 
2005-05-22 06:05:41 PM
There's someone who will never have to work a single day in her life.
 
2005-05-22 06:09:41 PM
I demand a farker hand check...

oh wait./

/typing with one hand
 
2005-05-22 06:14:42 PM
well, if you must know. . I'm what they call a "bottom boy." Starpunching isn't really my thing, although I do enjoy get my star punched. gently.

Gay people setting the standard of female beauty in this country is why we are stuck with models and actresses who are sexually unattractive and emaciated.

Why are you commenting on the beauty of Japanese women when you are attacted to men who are tops? You don't like feminine women, you like masculine guys; seems like a silly comment.
 
2005-05-22 06:15:39 PM
What age is legal in China?
 
2005-05-22 06:23:17 PM
2005-05-22 04:37:13 PM olddinosaur

ITEM: Fully grown adult male lusting after 11-year-old girl with ecxceptionally well-developed body; VERDICT: pevert, kiddie molester.

ITEM: Fully grown adult male doing sex acts with 11-year-old boy; VERDICT: Just another alternative lifestyle.

Yep, double standard as usual. . . . .


Leave the Catholic Church out of this.

/thinks it's funny that the people who scream the loudest about gays being perverts are even more perverted themselves
 
2005-05-22 06:30:18 PM
MarkMartinFan
Funny that no one mentions that they always fuzz out the fuzz in their pictures, an American Playboy magazine would be totally banned pronography in Japan.
Uhhhhhm, no they're not. They'll show the pubic hair, but they won't show any other part of her genitals. A magazine like Penthouse or just about any other would be prohibited.

Besides, while the law prohibiting the showing of genitals was repealed several years back, most of the Japanese companies that produce these things continue the practice. It's only a rare few that willingly don't censor their product.

/lives in Japan.
//has seen real uncensored Japanese pr0n.
 
2005-05-22 06:37:01 PM
This is not okay. I won't look at them. You know the intention! She's a LITTLE girl. Shame on every single one of you that looked! It's sick beyond words.

Not against porn, but VERY much against child porn!

/Have a nine year old daughter.
 
2005-05-22 06:39:03 PM
Dress her up in a schoolgirl outfit and we have a deal.


Also, I suppose she should be of legal age.

Hey Sky, what's the age of consent in Japan?
And is it true the girls dig overweight guys?


/wouldn't hit anything under 16.
//19
///once planned to become an english teacher in Japan.
 
2005-05-22 06:40:35 PM
2005-05-22 06:37:01 PM smallfry
This is not okay. I won't look at them. You know the intention! She's a LITTLE girl. Shame on every single one of you that looked! It's sick beyond words.

Not against porn, but VERY much against child porn!

/Have a nine year old daughter.


Is she hot?

/you had to know that some idiot would say it...
//...and I'm KIDDING. It's a joke.
 
2005-05-22 06:42:32 PM
When it comes to the matter of child porn- I find nothing funny with it. Ever.
 
2005-05-22 06:42:54 PM
This is the most disturbing story of the month.
 
2005-05-22 06:43:28 PM
This is not okay. I won't look at them. You know the intention! She's a LITTLE girl. Shame on every single one of you that looked! It's sick beyond words.

Not against porn, but VERY much against child porn!


Um, dood. STFU if you haven't seen the pictures.
 
2005-05-22 06:46:09 PM
I don't have to STFU...Isn't that weird, Mayhem_King?
Is she on the site for a medical purpose? If not- Go back to what I said earlier. It still applies.
 
2005-05-22 06:51:35 PM
2005-05-22 06:42:32 PM smallfry

When it comes to the matter of child porn- I find nothing funny with it. Ever.

What if there's a clown involved?

/now I'm just being a jerk.
 
2005-05-22 06:52:15 PM
Well there is also the whole argument that first off she isn't naked or doing anything wrong in the pictures and if you consider looking at those particular pictures to be pornographic then you should probably see a therapist.
/ would like to personally castrate pedophiles and rapists with a rusty butter knife
 
2005-05-22 06:54:27 PM
Whatever Mark- What is the INTENTION of the site?

You are telling me I need therapy- after you looked at those pics after a headline like that? Look in the mirror.
 
2005-05-22 06:56:03 PM
Is she on the site for a medical purpose? If not- Go back to what I said earlier. It still applies.

My friend, you don't even know what you are commenting on. You are giving an unqualified opinion based on a guess. Since you haven't actually seen the pictures, you really don't know what you are posting about. You are going off of your imagination. Now, knowing that you haven't seen the actual pictures, but you think they are sick and pornographic, that tells me that the pictures you are producing in your mind's eye are "sick" and "pornographic" in nature and involving what you imagine the "11-year old" to look like. *That* is why I am telling you to STFU. I really didn't need to know that you have a nine year old. Now, if you are done with the TMI self-disclosures, please STFU. Freak.
 
2005-05-22 06:56:18 PM
Pete says:


I'd do "research" on that.
 
2005-05-22 06:57:22 PM
smallfry

Calm down there, Mr. Swaggart.
 
2005-05-22 06:59:38 PM
Dear Mayhem_King,

You feeling guilty?
Should I stoop to your level on this one?
No thanks.
Intention of headline- Pitures- YOUNG GIRL.
Shame on you.

/you obviously don't have kids.
 
2005-05-22 06:59:39 PM
Only reason I looked was because someone posted the link and said there wasn't anything bad about them, also I looked because I know I have no interest in little girls in that way and was curious as to what everyone was talking about. Also I wasn't adressing you I was just pointing out the fact that there is a psychological trap associated with it.
 
2005-05-22 07:02:31 PM
You feeling guilty?

No. But from what you wrote, it seems to me that you are. Too late, you are busted. Want to keep pushing it? Sick fark.
 
2005-05-22 07:04:05 PM
I'm done feeding the trolls.
If you don't get it.
You don't get it.
Again- I'm not anti porn- I'm ANTI child porn, and anything associated with it.

The End.
 
2005-05-22 07:08:28 PM
I'm done feeding the trolls.
If you don't get it.
You don't get it.
Again- I'm not anti porn- I'm ANTI child porn, and anything associated with it.

The End.


Nice try. Too late. Your words revealed what is going on in your mind. Any other confessions that you would unintentionally like to make? Sick fark.
 
2005-05-22 07:10:55 PM
smallfry
Hypocrisy? Seeing as how you are in this thread, and a PICTURE of said girl is in this thread... chances are, you've seen it. And here you are, blasting these people for looking at "child pr0n"... when you have looked at this "child pr0n" yourself.
 
2005-05-22 07:10:56 PM
smallfry

I'm done feeding the trolls.
If you don't get it.
You don't get it.
Again- I'm not anti porn- I'm ANTI child porn, and anything associated with it.

The End.

So I'm a troll because I made an observation about human psychology? And I think the fact that you're against child porn is a given, the fact that you need to state it makes you seem alittle odd.I don't have any feelings towards child porn except disgust and hatred but I don't need to go around reminding everyone of the fact because it's just common sense.
 
2005-05-22 07:12:00 PM
what the fark? What's all this about her being an A cup? Are you bloody well blind? While I agree that she's not an AMERICAN F-cup, she's certainly bigger than a A cup! At the VERY least a B, I'd say C. C'mon, A's the smallest size you can get. Take it from a lady, guys, she is NOT an A cup, in any size system.
 
2005-05-22 07:13:18 PM
So if anyone has home movies with their daughters in swimsuits, that's child porn?
Just asking, you know.
/still don't see an altarboy outfit on that site.
//already going to hell, may as well enjoy the ride.
 
2005-05-22 07:17:01 PM
Johnny Golgotha:

I hate it when fat girls brag about their GG or H breasts. It doesn't matter how big they are if the rest of you looks like a blob. I think the perfect size is a large B or a small C.

Not *every* man looks at an overweight girl and automatically thinks "Ewww! Gross! Ugly!". Some men (and women) prefer their women to look like WOMEN - not Barbie dolls or twelve-year-old boys.
 
2005-05-22 07:17:54 PM
No, Protest Warrior. In my mind that 100% is not porn. (Unless of course- the INTENTION was there for something else. Like a FARK headline stating that she's there for helping relax men.)
 
2005-05-22 07:23:23 PM
This is not okay. I won't look at them. You know the intention! She's a LITTLE girl. Shame on every single one of you that looked! It's sick beyond words.

No Smallfry -- interesting choice for a screen name -- please, tell me, what is the intention?

My guess is that your guilt is what caused you to post in outrage. Your own guilt is why you are posting that the rest of us should feel shame. The link goes to a text article. The picture of the girl was posted in this thread. For some reason, in your mind, the picture became "pornographic" and "sick". The only reason for you to post that we should feel shamed is because you are feeling shame.

/you obviously don't have kids.

Whether or not I have children is irrelevent to the truth or falsity of my post. You used that as a device to change the subject. Keep posting genius. Keep self-disclosing. Jackass. You make me sick.
 
2005-05-22 07:23:49 PM
BobTheHamster: Black women = Look like... just unattractive


If you find Vanessa Williams or Halle Berry unattractive, then you have a serious case of the gay.
 
2005-05-22 07:25:51 PM
How can all you experts say she's not 11 she's 12 or 13 or even 18? Asian women all look 12 to me. My sister in law is Phillipino (yes I know that's not Asian) and I know she's damn near 40 and she looks 12 to me.

And not to cross post, but one of those pictures pointed out something very useful about tattoos, they prove the bearer is over 18.
 
2005-05-22 07:27:45 PM
Mayhem_King

My guess is that your guilt is what caused you to post in outrage. Your own guilt is why you are posting that the rest of us should feel shame. The link goes to a text article. The picture of the girl was posted in this thread. For some reason, in your mind, the picture became "pornographic" and "sick". The only reason for you to post that we should feel shamed is because you are feeling shame.

"Shame" and "guilt" are sociological constructs. Technically speaking, they don't exist. Human beings created those concepts.

Thus, the emotion called "shame" or "guilt" comes from the culture taught by the society in which an individual lives. An action is taken, and the individual is taught that the appropriate response to that action or to feelings associated with that action are "shame" and "guilt."
 
2005-05-22 07:28:53 PM
Not *every* man looks at an overweight girl and automatically thinks "Ewww! Gross! Ugly!"

Oh of course not every man, just the Chubby Chasing fetish freaks. Sicker then scat and golden shower lovers i tells ya.
 
2005-05-22 07:30:07 PM
Not *every* man looks at an overweight girl and automatically thinks "Ewww! Gross! Ugly!". Some men (and women) prefer their women to look like WOMEN - not Barbie dolls or twelve-year-old boys.

Since when was the standard template for women that of an overweight woman? I'm puzzled by women who think it's natural and normal to be 15+lbs overweight.
 
2005-05-22 07:31:56 PM
...Chubby Chasing fetish freaks. Sicker then scat and golden shower lovers i tells ya.
I think that's pretty amusing, considering your SN. ;)
 
2005-05-22 07:33:27 PM
Why is it that if a girl has boobs some men automatically think age is not a factor?
good grief
 
2005-05-22 07:34:06 PM
I'm puzzled by women who think it's natural and normal to be 15+lbs overweight.
Who defines "overweight" anyway?
Most women are 15+ lbs "overweight" compared to models. And thank Bog for that.

I'm into different shapes and sizes. Not the extremes, though.
 
2005-05-22 07:34:14 PM
ProtestWarrior:

So if anyone has home movies with their daughters in swimsuits, that's child porn?

smallfry:

No, Protest Warrior. In my mind that 100% is not porn. (Unless of course- the INTENTION was there for something else. Like a FARK headline stating that she's there for helping relax men.)

so you know, what if somebody took a home video of their daughters in swimsuits, somebody takes the tape, labels it, "HOT YOUNG GIRLS TO HELP MEN RELAX", it's perverted to take the tape back and watch it? intention doesn't matter at ALL, interpretation does. i can take a picture of a child innocently, and somebody else can look at that picture and imagine having sex with the child. the same person can take a picture, imagining having sex with the child, even though the child is fully clothed, and i can see the picture and not have that mindset at all.

you seem like an extremely naive person
 
2005-05-22 07:34:15 PM
Chocolate.x

Since when was the standard template for women that of an overweight woman? I'm puzzled by women who think it's natural and normal to be 15+lbs overweight.

Your entire argument just fell away, seeing as how "overweight" is a subjective and, to be honest, ephemeral term.
 
2005-05-22 07:35:55 PM
smallfry: Whatever Mark- What is the INTENTION of the site?


Global domination?
 
2005-05-22 07:36:05 PM
I'm liking the strange ironic wordplay used in asking whether if "Is she on the site for a medical purpose?" and then pronouncing that people looking at the site are sick.


/ur right, I have no idea how to turn it into comedic gold.
//I wish Bill Hicks was here still.
 
2005-05-22 07:36:38 PM


GIS for "Lolita"
Perverts.
 
2005-05-22 07:36:44 PM
smallfry:
Like a FARK headline stating that she's there for helping relax men

Um, too bad the headline doesn't say that at all. "Reported to ease anti-Japan tension in China" (of which there is quite a bit; I was just there for an extended time) is not "helping relax men." Besides being patently misogynistic (people=men?) your statement is just wrong.
 
2005-05-22 07:38:04 PM
Some people seems to be debating/arguing some simple common sense stuff on this thread. Here are some plain and obvious facts for some of you:

1) If you can't tell the difference between an A and a C cup (people are debating that!), then you don't get out much or you live in a cave.

2) She's not an F cup, of course.

3) Yes women, it is not "legit" or attractive (except to a small MINORITY of men), to boast about your F, G or H sized cups when you are obese. B or C cups on a HWP or fit female are much more attractive that F cups that are barely distinquishable from your belly. It's tantamount to a guy boasting about his 24 inch biceps when he is 200 pounds overweight. It's all fat! Would you prefer a toned bicep (actual muscle) or a big roll of fat around a guys arm? Of course you'd prefer the toned muscle/bicep to the diabetes/heart problems, etc., case waiting to happen.

4) These pics are not porn. If you think they are then you have never actually seen porn. If this was porn you would be required to be eighteen to go onto a public beach. The pics may not be "tasteful" or wise. But, they are not porn.

That is all.
 
2005-05-22 07:38:05 PM
 
2005-05-22 07:39:09 PM
CrazyBob:

If you find Vanessa Williams or Halle Berry unattractive, then you have a serious case of the gay.

i don't know about vanessa williams, but halle berri is only HALF black, and incidentally those are almost always the only ones i find attractive.

it's not the skin color that turns me off, it's things like body and facial structure that vary greatly from race to race. halle berri borrows other features
 
2005-05-22 07:39:13 PM
smallfry, this conversation is useless without pics, 9 you say?


//NOT serious, just being a dick as usual
 
2005-05-22 07:39:16 PM
Well I'm no expert, but I don't think this qualifies as child porn.


The pose is provacative, the child is 11. What does that tell you? It is child porn.
Mods I can't believe you even green lit the picture.
You are treading on very thin thin ice.
 
2005-05-22 07:41:55 PM
Thus, the emotion called "shame" or "guilt" comes from the culture taught by the society in which an individual lives. An action is taken, and the individual is taught that the appropriate response to that action or to feelings associated with that action are "shame" and "guilt."

Thank you for the Psych 101. I was mirroring the poster's construct.

"Shame" and "guilt" are sociological constructs. Technically speaking, they don't exist. Human beings created those concepts.

Now, if I may teach you something, if we don't have something in our culture, we don't have a word for it. The words "shame" and "guilt" are labels for internal associations that are sometimes described as "feelings". If you are trying to tell me that people do not feel either "shame" or "guilt", then I've got some news for you... They do. A word is just a representation. Of course it's a construct. They feelings and emotions backing them however, are real. Real brain chemicals; real engrams. I hope you aren't about to post that depression is a construct too?

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_297
 
2005-05-22 07:43:36 PM
2005-05-22 07:36:44 PM TrixieBelasco


smallfry:
Like a FARK headline stating that she's there for helping relax men

Um, too bad the headline doesn't say that at all. "Reported to ease anti-Japan tension in China" (of which there is quite a bit; I was just there for an extended time) is not "helping relax men." Besides being patently misogynistic (people=men?) your statement is just wrong.


smallfry:
 
2005-05-22 07:45:57 PM
Chocolate.x

Since when was the standard template for women that of an overweight woman? I'm puzzled by women who think it's natural and normal to be 15+lbs overweight.

Your entire argument just fell away, seeing as how "overweight" is a subjective and, to be honest, ephemeral term.


I'll agree that being overweight is subjective. I've dated a girl who was about 50lbs overweight (hey, she was a nice person) and she was about 5' and 190lbs or so. She didn't think it was normal to be so fat but she didn't care. I'm just confused by obese women who think somehow it's natural to be that way. How'd the trend get started? I wasn't trying to start an argument, I was just curious.
 
2005-05-22 07:47:19 PM
smeegle

Which picture are you talking about?
 
2005-05-22 07:48:24 PM
She looks like an 18 year japanese girl. Just about all of them from 11-21 look about the damn same.
 
2005-05-22 07:49:18 PM
To solve arguments about what size cup she is, Farkers should start a fund to buy her a ticket to the USA so she can be measured for an American bra.
Her American size can then be posted as a follow-up thread.
Or a newsflash.
 
2005-05-22 07:50:19 PM
smeegle:

The pose is provacative, the child is 11. What does that tell you? It is child porn.
Mods I can't believe you even green lit the picture.
You are treading on very thin thin ice.



Personally, I didn't find it very provocative - I've seen worse in clothing catalogs. I don't think the ice here is particularly thin.
 
2005-05-22 07:50:39 PM
Mayhem_King

Now, if I may teach you something, if we don't have something in our culture, we don't have a word for it. The words "shame" and "guilt" are labels for internal associations that are sometimes described as "feelings". If you are trying to tell me that people do not feel either "shame" or "guilt", then I've got some news for you... They do. A word is just a representation. Of course it's a construct. They feelings and emotions backing them however, are real. Real brain chemicals; real engrams. I hope you aren't about to post that depression is a construct too?

The human being's sense of Self is created by vital sociological exposure in the first couple crucial years of life. Without the exposure to other human beings, a new human being will not develop a concept of the Self.

People afflicted with antisocial personality disorder (i.e., sociopaths) are incapable of feeling either guilt or shame.
 
2005-05-22 07:52:11 PM
Burn98: Saaya Irie

Birth Nov 15



Heh, that's my birthday too!
 
2005-05-22 07:54:50 PM
I am a mother.
I read the headline.
I DID NOT LOOK AT THE PICS
The headline was IT for me.
I don't understand how anyone can read that headline- and think it's a good idea to look at those pictures.
Again, it was HOW the headline read...
Last time I checked, I still live in a free country.
I'd like to keep it that way.
 
2005-05-22 07:57:03 PM
-and by that I mean- I have the right to voice my opinions in a public forum.
 
2005-05-22 08:00:53 PM
The ABCs of Breasts

NSFW, but extremely informative.
 
2005-05-22 08:01:04 PM
And we have the right to tell you you're being a reactionary tool.
 
F42
2005-05-22 08:01:57 PM
smallfry:
I don't understand how anyone can read that headline- and think it's a good idea to look at those pictures.

What part of "F cup" don't you understand, then?
 
2005-05-22 08:01:59 PM
smeegle, please, estiefyu.

Had I not known she was 11, my initial thought would have been, "Damn, lookit them titties" but knowing beforehand, my reaction was "Damn lookit them titties on the 11 year-old".

titties are titties people, it is irregular or an 11 year-old to have them, but it doesnt make you sick or perverted to admire them when placed on one. anyone happen to notice the fark advert w/ the "AA endorsment"? perfect example.
Its not like this is something you LOOK for, unless you are a pedophile.

As well, Japanese girls are small in general, so it may be difficult for the average ignorant Americn. Like me.
 
2005-05-22 08:02:27 PM
super44

Now those are some ginormous booblies! Good job, good job.
 
2005-05-22 08:04:44 PM
smallfry:

2005-05-22 07:57:03 PM smallfry

-and by that I mean- I have the right to voice my opinions in a public forum.


Well, in that case, you'll understand in all fairness that people are entitled to voice theirs - even if they are against what you're saying.

You must appreciate that people don't like to be called sick and presumed to be child porn enthusiasts, especially when the case you are assuming isn't pertinent to the reality at hand.

And, btw, if you haven't seen the pictures, then all you can really do is to lay the wrath on the submitter and their headline. Nothing else.
 
2005-05-22 08:07:44 PM
I got news for you smallfry, Fark isn't a public forum, and you have no rights here. Just ask the Mods.
 
2005-05-22 08:13:24 PM
K- thanks for that information, Gonzee.

GungFu, Again- I am able to think whatever I like. You are able to voice your opinion back. Good logic, No? Don't see the problem there.
 
2005-05-22 08:13:49 PM
 
2005-05-22 08:13:50 PM
smallfry
*sigh*
Your argument has credence. The headline refers to an 11 year old child with large breasts.
Uh ,,right there a red flag goes up. Then I see the 11 year old is indeed posing for the picture bending forward enough to show her cleavag. It is a provacative pose. Why is there even an argument about this?
If there is even debate as to wether it is, or could be close to questionable, then to me it's obvious there,s a problem here.
Mods, if you have to sit and wonder if you should or shouldn't post it, then why even take the risk.
 
2005-05-22 08:14:15 PM
Hmm, if she had been smoking some pot and wearing an anti-bush slogan somewhere, we'd have already hit infinity!



I think that would be the perfect triumniverate(sp?) of a fark topic. Child porn, pot, and Bush...
 
2005-05-22 08:14:23 PM
Lighten the hell up, people. You see more provocative images by going to the beach. Shall we ban everything but full body suits for anyone under 18 who is wanting to goto the beach now? Oh well, time to go turn on a national TV station and watch some murders!
 
2005-05-22 08:17:41 PM
smallfry:

2005-05-22 08:13:24 PM smallfry

GungFu, Again- I am able to think whatever I like. You are able to voice your opinion back. Good logic, No? Don't see the problem there.


Erm, I thought that was very obvious in what I just wrote too.

Hmmm. Clearly you are no normal adversary in this debating/ discussion malarkey.
 
2005-05-22 08:17:47 PM
super44
Yea, that scared me a lot. WTF?
 
2005-05-22 08:21:47 PM
smallfry: -and by that I mean- I have the right to voice my opinions in a public forum

that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard. free speech is free speech, you're allowed to say what you want. we're not saying that. but we can also argue against your opinions as much as we wish too
 
2005-05-22 08:24:25 PM
OKay, listen this is not about what you may or may not consider appropriate.
This is about the obviousness of it. This is about the legal quagmire fark could easily find itself in. If you can't see the legal implications then you have not been paying attention to the media.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but it aint gonna change what's already on the books.
 
2005-05-22 08:24:27 PM
[troll] I figured it out. You people who are against this sort of thing are anti-Islam. The photographer was just following the example of the pedophile-prophet Mohammed. You should all learn to be more sensitive to Islamic culture.[/troll]
/working towards infinity
//stirring the pot with a big spoon
///oh drat, I said pot
 
2005-05-22 08:27:12 PM
Ok this just obviously a very sensative subject so I vote for a cease to the flaming. Smallfry is a mother so I can see how this topic can make a parent act somewhat irrationally and passionate, even more so than a person without children. But also you can't just accuse every person who tries to look at the situation objectively of having severe mental illness.

/Flame off anyone?
 
2005-05-22 08:28:13 PM
Chocolate.x

I'm just confused by obese women who think somehow it's natural to be that way. How'd the trend get started? I wasn't trying to start an argument, I was just curious

The trend got started b/c of the demographic shift of Americans from normal --> fatty fat ass fattos. Trying to convince themselves and all others that all is well, they repeat endlessly the mantra that they are 'normal-sized' before they go home and eat a whole goddammned tub of Godiva's Vanilla Ice Cream, and then blame their 'genes' for swelling up like a big, puffy marshmallow.
 
2005-05-22 08:32:17 PM
eldezod: and then blame their 'genes' for swelling up like a big, puffy marshmallow.

For some strange reason this made me laugh and feel all giddy inside. : )

Sounds almost affectionate.
 
2005-05-22 08:34:54 PM
On the age thing, 11 vs 12 is due to the difference in how you talk about age in Japan. Someone correct me if my information is 300 years out of date, but I think it goes like if she's born Nov 93, then she's one Jan 94, two jan 95, twelve Jan 05.

This girl is clearly a girl. If you cover up the tits with your hand a piece of paper or something, and look at her face, it's clear she is a little girl. Who just happens to have huge tits. I'd guess D, but it's hard guess exactly when her frame is so small.

And to the guy who bragged about having "50 DDs" rubbed in his face, I don't know why you're bragging about landing a whale. When talking "measurements", meaning hips-waist-bust, then the bust measurement is around the tits. So this girl might be 26-22-36. But the bra size, which is the only thing that has letters in it, is based on the measurement immediately below the breasts. So she probably wears a 28 F bra. See how it works?
 
2005-05-22 08:35:22 PM
LandoGriffin writes:

Congratulations, Fark Community! For viewing these links, we all now have open files with Interpol!

Let's not forget the F.B.I....

--h
 
2005-05-22 08:35:31 PM
okay, okay, okay okay, they aint that big..... but they are big for an asian.... ah ha
 
2005-05-22 08:39:47 PM
I don't know what to say except that submitter,/b> you're a dumbass and Mods what were you thinking?
 
2005-05-22 08:46:14 PM
This thread is usless without Ayumi Hamasaki, who is very provocative and very hittable.
/she's 27
//she is responsible for many dead kittens
 
2005-05-22 08:47:34 PM
I really dont understand the flaming and trolling going on here. Anyone who is quick to lash out with the words 'child pr0n', and to accuse people of being child molesting perverts should first examine themselves.

I strongly disagree with trying to make a sex symbol of an 11 year old girl, but nothing I saw was degrading (but I only saw the pics posted, maybe theres worse).

Its funny too because the most calm, level headed responces have been from the people that have boobies.
 
2005-05-22 08:50:46 PM
If this isn't child porn, why would the FBI and Interpol have files on us now?

I'm on the fence here as far as what to call this. It IS most certainly extremely inapropriate, and the child is most definitely being exploited.

If you had an 11 yr daughter, would you let her pose like this and post the pics on the internet?

Didn't think so.

Grow up, guys, and lust over chicks that are closer to your age. Are you all really that hard up?

Actually...scratch that, I'm sure you are.
 
2005-05-22 08:53:25 PM
According to this month's Harper's Index, in Massachusetts it's still legal for a girl to get married at age 12 with parental consent.

But I guess if the honeymoon video gets out, it's child porn.
:)
 
2005-05-22 08:56:21 PM
smeegle writes:

OKay, listen this is not about what you may or may not consider appropriate.

Actually it's one of the better discussions I've seen on Fark in months. You have people with a variety of backgrounds with all sorts of different opinions coming in on it.

This is about the obviousness of it. This is about the legal quagmire fark could easily find itself in. If you can't see the legal implications then you have not been paying attention to the media.

Let me rest assure you Drew and the members of Fark have nothing to worry about. This isn't even a "grey zone" pic as I discussed earlier in the thread.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but it aint gonna change what's already on the books.

Have a law degree? Specialize in this type of law? Do any significant reading on the subject? If not, then how is your opinion any better than anyone else's?

--h
 
2005-05-22 08:59:35 PM
or take pics of your new bride at the beach in a bikini, apparently.
 
2005-05-22 09:01:23 PM
Nice change of headline!
 
2005-05-22 09:06:42 PM
This is pinup calendar quality stuff. I would see this sort of thing at restaurants and such in Korea when I was there. Of course, the girls weren't that young.

The absence of front teeth behind the upper incisors in the picture OriginalGamer posted is the clearest giveaway that the girl is somewhere between the age of 11 and about 14.
 
2005-05-22 09:13:03 PM
In china her pics inspire peace and harmony between peoples who have had a long history of racial tension. (Now that's weird since they all look alike anyway, amirightfolks? *ba-dum-bump*)

Here it's nothing but kiddie porn this, you're sick that.

/Lust over freda!
 
2005-05-22 09:16:31 PM
...and it's still disguisting beyond words. Can't believe you guys changed the headline,(not that it's much better!) and kept the poor girl's pics up. WTF? Still haven't looked, and won't.
Poor taste, imho.
 
2005-05-22 09:17:14 PM
I am a mother.
I read the headline.
I DID NOT LOOK AT THE PICS
The headline was IT for me.
I don't understand how anyone can read that headline- and think it's a good idea to look at those pictures.
Again, it was HOW the headline read...
Last time I checked, I still live in a free country.
I'd like to keep it that way.

-and by that I mean- I have the right to voice my opinions in a public forum.


The link is to a text-ony article. There are no pictures. You've already described the "pictures" in the article as "sick" and "pornographic". Since you haven't looked at the article -- once again, it's text only -- that means that the pictures you imagined inside your head are "sick" and "pornographic". The pictures that you are describing only exist in your mind.

This is not okay. I won't look at them. You know the intention! She's a LITTLE girl. Shame on every single one of you that looked! It's sick beyond words.

Not against porn, but VERY much against child porn!

/Have a nine year old daughter.


If that isn't projecting, then I don't know what is.
 
2005-05-22 09:18:47 PM
I think some people's comments are turning what in actuality is a mole-hill into a mountain (and I don't mean the bra-size debate).
 
2005-05-22 09:18:50 PM
freda neato writes:

If this isn't child porn, why would the FBI and Interpol have files on us now?

Actually I was kidding...fact is the F.B.I. has trouble enough tracking down the major producers/distributors of REAL child porn, let alone record info on fluff like this.

I'm on the fence here as far as what to call this. It IS most certainly extremely inapropriate, and the child is most definitely being exploited.

Back in the 1970s, a topless Brooke Shields posed for a photograph wearing adult cosmetics. The pic can still be found doing a GIS search so far as I know, or ones of a similar nature. The pic was taken to show the paradox between how young she was and how old she could appear, however, Brooke at the time was a highly paid model, and enjoyed what she was doing.

I can't speak to whether this girl enjoys what she does. I've not seen any quotes from her. But, I think it very fair to call her the Japanese Brooke Shields at this point.

If you had an 11 yr daughter, would you let her pose like this and post the pics on the internet?

If she enjoyed modeling, I'd let her do it...so long as at least a bathing suit stayed on. That people take photos against copyright law and post them on the Internet in an inappropriate context would be par for the course these days, and it would be something that would be discussed regarding whether or not she wanted to model.

Grow up, guys, and lust over chicks that are closer to your age. Are you all really that hard up?

Sorry I don't lust after this girl, nor do I think that the men who have made remarks here on Fark to that effect actually do either. Guys who lust after grossly underage females don't come on chat boards like this one and proclaim their fetish.

As for Brooke...oh hell yes I did back then, but I was roughly her age at the time.

--h
 
2005-05-22 09:22:30 PM
smallfry, why don't you tell us the real story?
 
2005-05-22 09:29:05 PM
Oh shiat, I have Google Web Accelerator on!
 
2005-05-22 09:31:07 PM


I'm speechless.
 
2005-05-22 09:33:07 PM
Yeah, the pics in that link in the seventh post? They're pretty obviously photoshopped, to put her head on an older body. If you don't believe me, do a GIS for her name, you'll come up with only two pictures, the first has the exact same angle, expression, and hair as most of the pics in the link.
 
2005-05-22 09:34:23 PM
Jesu Cristo!!! That's bigger than an 'F' sammy. Great pic.
 
2005-05-22 09:46:07 PM
Weakner: YOU WONT BELIEVE WHAT THESE HORNY TEENAGE SLUTZ DO!!!!

  She's... she's not even teenage!

That poor kid. Is there anyway for her to grow up to be a healthy, well-balanced adult? No one's gonna be paying attention to her personality.

  Nope. There's just no way. I change my mind. I call shenanigans. These pictures were 'shopped.
 
 
2005-05-22 09:50:42 PM
Wow.

To answer anyones questions on why an 11 year old is posing for shots in her bikini, check the number of times this link has been clicked compared to any of the other links.

As of right now its:
11 year old with tits: -- 70,000
French not being named: -- 3,000
 
2005-05-22 09:52:45 PM
huh what happened

/looking at watch impatiently
 
2005-05-22 09:53:41 PM
heh... ya know, I once had a 16 year old girlfriend... well... I didn't "had" her, but there was cuddling and such...

this girl is not 11, she's not 12, she's not 13... she is at least 14 and physically 16 years old. The pelvic structure states such. Anybody involved or even partially educated in child development will tell you that this girl is neither a child nor an adult. As to F cup... lol, bullshiat.

I'll tell you why the chinese may (I don't believe it) love her, she's mostly chinese.
 
2005-05-22 09:55:34 PM
oh and to clear things up. i clicked on the link before i read "11 year-old" - then proceeded to click through to thread, disappointed in finding pictures. it only occurred to me what "11 year-old" actually meant upon viewing of the pictures. i do not regret it.
 
2005-05-22 09:57:57 PM
Just imagine someone jacking off to YOUR 11 year old daughter's pictures. Does that give you perspective? She is a child.
 
2005-05-22 10:00:34 PM
smallfry

The problem with your arguments and posts so far is not that you are arguing against the sexualization of an 11yr old child, it's that you're arguing, in this case, from a reactionary and ignorant position. Ignorant, because you don't quite know what exactly, in this case, it is that you're arguing against.

The photos of the girl aren't pornographic. They are erotic. In this case, to give what may be an accurate comparison, the pictures here of this girl are the sorts of photo's you could find in Maxim or FHM. They are not nude, but they are in poses which can be easily seen as sexual or provocative. And indeed, I would expect that many of the poses for the photo's are meant in that way.

If you want your arguments to be taken seriously, then you need to argue from a position of knowledge. Otherwise, you can easily be dismissed as a loon, a nutter, an idiot, a troll, (insert favourite farkism here) and your argument will be dismissed right along with you. In this case, it's looking at the non-pornographic photos (located here, and explaining what it is about these photo's that you feel is offensive.

For my part, thought the pictures are not what I believe to be pornographic, I do believe they are intended to be erotic. And that is what I find offensive; the sexualization of an 11 year old girl. If needs be, I can point to exact photographs and explain where my opinion comes from.

You, on the other hand, have nothing concrete to base your arguments on. You have read the headline and made the assumption that this is heinous child pornography (which it is not, though there are heinous things about it) and you are lumping it into a catagory with the sorts of abuse that rightly sickens well adjusted people of both sexes. By doing that, your argument can be turned against you to weaken the arguments against child pornography. Arguing a point from ignorance makes it very easy to dismiss the argument, even if the argument has merit.
 
2005-05-22 10:00:58 PM
Will you guys keep it down? I'm trying to masturbate!

/sheesh
 
2005-05-22 10:02:28 PM
stiletto_the_"wise":

Do any of you personally know the person mentioned in the article? Do you know the photographer? I didn't think so. So why don't you quit judging them?

She's 11.

She's eleven years old.

She was born during the 1990's.

She's not even yet a teenager.

She's not even yet a tweenager.

She hasn't been double-digits for two solid years, yet.

Most American 11 year olds are in 6th grade.

Again, she's 11 YEARS OLD.

You're seriously entertaining the idea that she has developed the cognitive ability to understand how her sexuality relates to her identity? How exactly is an 11 year old to know what's healthy and what's not? At 11, your whole life is your parents and your friends.

SHE'S 11!
 
 
2005-05-22 10:04:00 PM
gridlocksammy,

She needs the tree to stand up?
photoshop does weird things to people.
 
2005-05-22 10:07:22 PM
Who hear has a nine year old daughter?

YOU! The one in the back! GET OUT!

You're ruining this conversation.
 
2005-05-22 10:07:30 PM
how does one save flash animations to your hard drive again? I've been looking for that Learn Your ABCs flash for the longest! I don't want to think I'd lose it again cuz some site decidest to stop hosting it.
 
2005-05-22 10:12:35 PM
I could jack off to a picture of a tree if I wanted. Are you just not supposed to take pictures of anything? Just because some people have problems like that doesn't mean it's the person who takes the picture's fault.
 
2005-05-22 10:15:23 PM
Fecal Pandora
The animated gif at the top of the screen says it all. NSFW!

Guess what? Shes available for hire:

http://www.moenorinjin.net/system.html (pops, NSFW in Japan)
 
2005-05-22 10:16:18 PM
No comment.

(Except to say that I'm shocked FARK would allow a thread like this less the truth contradict the fiction that everyone adheres to when it comes to sex, sexual attraction, and the ludicrous notion of the "age of consent.")
 
2005-05-22 10:17:17 PM
My bad, that response was meant to be to whoever posted the link to the babe from Tokyo Topless, not Fecal Pandora. The 11 year old is certainly not for hire. ;)

// Flatmates home now, not spending any more time in this filthy thread. :D
 
2005-05-22 10:19:26 PM
11-years old??? Damnit!!
*punches self in crotch because "It" moved*
 
2005-05-22 10:22:50 PM
P.S.

And all of you freaking out about looking at pics of some tweenager in a swimsuit . . .it's perfectly legal.

There are legions of "model" site out there.

Tasteful? No.

Legal? Absolutely.

If it wasn't legal they'd have to close the beaches . . .
 
2005-05-22 10:26:27 PM
If it wasn't legal they'd have to close the beaches . . .

...and child beauty pageants.
 
2005-05-22 10:31:57 PM
Okay. I don't have a problem with these pictures, in and of themselves. I think people are really over-reacting. Here's a few things to consider, in order to properly frame your thoughts on this topic.

1. Are child beauty pageants bad?

2. Are nudist children being harmed by that lifestyle?

3. Is a man who has sex with an underage girl, without knowing her age, evil? The girl in the link could pass herself off as 18, maybe with some debate, but she could do it.

4. I don't know about you, but I had been masturbating for some years by the time I was 11. Maybe I'm abnormal, but to expect total innocence at that age is a bit ridiculous.

5. In abscence of knowledge about her age, is it wrong to lust after her?

6. Do you realize some of the fashion models you've seen were only 13-14? Particularly, look for Milla Jovovich's appearance on "Married With Children", she was just 13, which totally surprised me to find out (she played the French exchange student, Yvette, I think).

7. Can attractive features be attractive features, regardless of morals related to who they're attached to?

8. Do you have a problem with child stars? They are, quite often, exploited and they tend to find themselves in overly mature environments, which they usually can't handle.

9. What arbitrarily chosen number represents the appropriate age for this sort of thing? 16, 18, 21, 50? Can you really choose a number that applies to everyone? I've known a number of 30 year olds with very little responsibility and poor decision making skills.

10. Are clothing catalogs pornographic? These pictures aren't significantly different from them.

Now, this girl is 11. That's kind of young for any sort of "career", nevermind the nature of the career. I don't think she's quite mature enough to be choosing a life-path. The sexuality of it becomes a moot point, when you look at it that way. Then again, she might just be having some fun and picking up extra cash, for a few years. Plenty of young girls model for a few years, then go on to more traditional careers in adulthood.

Anyone who immediately screams "kiddie porn", especially those who haven't looked at the pictures, is a knee-jerking, reactionary asshole and can't make a contribution to this discussion. This isn't that big of a deal.
 
2005-05-22 10:33:12 PM
The human being's sense of Self is created by vital sociological exposure in the first couple crucial years of life. Without the exposure to other human beings, a new human being will not develop a concept of the Self.

People afflicted with antisocial personality disorder (i.e., sociopaths) are incapable of feeling either guilt or shame.


Um, great. Thank you for the non-sequitur.
 
2005-05-22 10:42:07 PM
 
2005-05-22 10:42:58 PM
Mayhem_King

Um, great. Thank you for the non-sequitur.

Try again.

Now, if I may teach you something, if we don't have something in our culture, we don't have a word for it. The words "shame" and "guilt" are labels for internal associations that are sometimes described as "feelings". If you are trying to tell me that people do not feel either "shame" or "guilt", then I've got some news for you... They do. A word is just a representation. Of course it's a construct. They feelings and emotions backing them however, are real. Real brain chemicals; real engrams. I hope you aren't about to post that depression is a construct too?

Allow me to assume that your concept of feeling is synonymous with emotion. You would agree to this, yes?

Emotion is "the part of the consciousness that involves feeling." - dictionary.com

The human being's sense of Self is created by vital sociological exposure in the first couple crucial years of life. Without the exposure to other human beings, a new human being will not develop a concept of the Self.

Thus, without a concept of Self, that is, consciousness of one's own existence, how could one possibly experience emotion?

I maintain my position that, without a sense of Self, a human being has no feelings.
 
2005-05-22 10:44:07 PM
Numerous studies have indicated that the age at which one becomes sexually aware of and attracted to the opposite sex is the baseline age at members of the opposite sex that you will be attracted to.
 
2005-05-22 10:49:11 PM
That shiat is just scary... totally scary. How can people who dislike the Japanese over the vicous atrocities from WWII be quelled by an 11 or 12 yr old who's parents are exploiting her early puberty?
 
2005-05-22 10:49:24 PM
2005-05-22 08:13:49 PM Admiral Ackbar's Kunt Smells Like Fish

This is nothing new. NSFW

Now THAT's farking terrifying.
 
2005-05-22 10:49:30 PM
mattproject

Ha - good for a laugh.

If stilletto_the_wise is wise, my dog's anus can sing the part of Nehebka in AIDA

I don't to be too judgmental about anyone's opinion, but...

If you think an 11 or 14 year-old can make those kinds of decisions about her body in relation to older men, you are dangerously close to pederasty and pedophilia. I would keep your opinions to yourself, unless you want to be socially isolated or worse. Much worse. I would assume that all 14 year-olds are too young to make these judgments. Whether 17- or 18- is the right age of consent HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!!

Child sexual abuse seems to me to start with the abuser trying to convince himself that a child can make decisions like an adult. that's the first step. IT JUST AIN'T SO. Children should be able to trust ALL adults to help them make the right decisions, instead of guiding them in the wrong direction.


Good points..
stiletto_the_wise
Are we all mad?
Why do we in the USA and many other religious fundamentalist countries treat girls as precious virginal innocent flowers, who could not possibly understand sex, until long after they have sexually matured? Then at an arbitrary age, say 18, all of a sudden they are capable of consent, and open season for porn, men of any age, and any and all sorts of debauchery.

Take a photo of a 17 year old WOMAN nude, and it's "SICK SICK KIDDIE PORN!! AUUGGGHH CUT THE PHOTOGRAPHER'S BALLS OFF" but if she's 18, it's "OH MAN, THAT'S SO HOT!"

Who are we to say that some random person is not capable of understanding her body, understanding why someone would want to take a picture of her, understanding what sex and sexuality is, and understanding what is and is not exploitation? People are all different. I know 14 year olds who have a solid grasp on their sexuality and know when someone is out to exploit them, and I know 24 year olds who don't.

Do any of you personally know the person mentioned in the article? Do you know the photographer? I didn't think so. So why don't you quit judging them?

and you said:

NOW hide your hard drive filled with kiddie pr0n the feds are on the way!
 
2005-05-22 10:50:48 PM
NokNoKCPU

I'm not disagreeing with your textbook definition. I am questioning the relevance of presenting it as a response to my post. It does not follow.

I maintain my position that, without a sense of Self, a human being has no feelings.

Here, let me try another way; so what? If you have a point, please make it. I am fully aware of what a sociopath is. It's what the prosecutor kept calling me at my murder trial. How that relates to my post however, is something of a mystery to me. When I get out, we'll have to discuss this in greater detail over coffee.
 
2005-05-22 10:54:53 PM
Animatronik

Child sexual abuse seems to me to start with the abuser trying to convince himself that a child can make decisions like an adult. that's the first step. IT JUST AIN'T SO. Children should be able to trust ALL adults to help them make the right decisions, instead of guiding them in the wrong direction.

Then why is eighteen the arbitrary age at which a person can suddenly become responsible for his/her own actions?

Does research support this age? Can you provide such research?

This is a very subjective rule -- that is, the age at which someone is capable of being independent is subjective. It's variable for each individual. I'm sorry to inform you, but some people are more intelligent than others and also more capable of acting in a manner that is called "mature" at a younger age than others.
 
2005-05-22 10:57:18 PM
Animatronik

This post is from hdhale, a guy I usually disagree with, but here his remark is spot on:

Sorry I don't lust after this girl, nor do I think that the men who have made remarks here on Fark to that effect actually do either. Guys who lust after grossly underage females don't come on chat boards like this one and proclaim their fetish.
 
2005-05-22 10:57:36 PM
gridlocksammy -

My back hurts just looking at those! But something else feels reeeeeeeeeeally gooooooood.
 
2005-05-22 11:00:00 PM
Neal Bush claims that 12 year old asian girls just come to his hotel room....totally unexpected!!!

So Neal Bush has monkey sex with those underaged asian prostitutes and his wife divorces him over it.

The more you know....

/Family values
//Hypocrisy is a GOP family value
 
2005-05-22 11:02:29 PM
Hyernel -

Yes, because what one family member does, the entire family does without exception.
 
2005-05-22 11:02:52 PM

The above photograph approved by Smeegle
 
2005-05-22 11:03:12 PM
Mayhem_King

I'm not disagreeing with your textbook definition. I am questioning the relevance of presenting it as a response to my post. It does not follow.

Here, let me try another way; so what? If you have a point, please make it. I am fully aware of what a sociopath is. It's what the prosecutor kept calling me at my murder trial. How that relates to my post however, is something of a mystery to me. When I get out, we'll have to discuss this in greater detail over coffee.


You stated the following: If you are trying to tell me that people do not feel either "shame" or "guilt", then I've got some news for you... They do. A word is just a representation. Of course it's a construct. They feelings and emotions backing them however, are real.

You made a global statement about the nature of emotion. However, not all people feel shame or guilt. Also, the emotions shame and guilt are social constructs -- if people weren't taught that certain actions, thoughts, or emotions were to bring shame and guilt, then participating in those actions, thinking those thoughts, or having those emotions wouldn't bring about shame or guilt. Do you understand what I am saying? Let me sum it up for you in case you don't.

People feel shame and guilt because they were TAUGHT to feel shame and guilt. Shame and guilt do not exist naturally in human beings -- they must be taught through sociological processes.
 
2005-05-22 11:04:07 PM
Hyernel:

I like to engage in some intellectual conversation after blowing a load of hot American Freedom onto her forehead.

Weeeeeeeee!!
-------

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That was just to funny!
 
2005-05-22 11:05:15 PM
NokNoKCPU

The part that counts here is the brain. There's plenty of research that indicates the brain is still maturing up to 18-20 years.

http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2003/G/20035367.html

The truth is, though, that the pervs who'd like to see the AOC lowered to say, 14 years, don't really care about teenagers' brains or development or well-being. They've got a closet full of porn like japanese cartoons that show little schoolgirls getting it on with older guys. They're excited by it so they want to act like a 14 year-old's brain is the same as an 18 year-olds. It's not, and if you keep saying it is you need to go into therapy. For the sake of any teenagers who cross your path.



Animatronik

Child sexual abuse seems to me to start with the abuser trying to convince himself that a child can make decisions like an adult. that's the first step. IT JUST AIN'T SO. Children should be able to trust ALL adults to help them make the right decisions, instead of guiding them in the wrong direction.

Then why is eighteen the arbitrary age at which a person can suddenly become responsible for his/her own actions?

Does research support this age? Can you provide such research?

This is a very subjective rule -- that is, the age at which someone is capable of being independent is subjective. It's variable for each individual. I'm sorry to inform you, but some people are more intelligent than others and also more capable of acting in a manner that is called "mature" at a younger age than others.
 
2005-05-22 11:05:56 PM


*sigh*

Much too far, much too fast...
 
2005-05-22 11:08:10 PM
its ok... you can always get her... DVD?
WHHAAATTT?!?!??!?!?!
her dvd
or translation:
the google translation
 
2005-05-22 11:09:28 PM
Not trying to thread jack but I am somewhat mesmorized by what I presume is Super44's website. I have just read the entire "story". Apparently there is some secret city in SE Asia where women's breasts grow to disproportionate sizes and will exchange sexual favors for new Western clothes. Quite a tale. Very Marco Polo meets Gulliver's Travels.

(NSFW) http://www.farangdingdong.com/main1_5.html

Once again, I have to wonder, WTF?
 
2005-05-22 11:12:07 PM
The Saint of Killers [TotalFark]

Actually, I don't find the picture appealing either, because the whole package doesn't add up to an adult woman. A pair of breasts is natural, not necessarily a sexual thing, despite the cheesecake pose.

And I wouldn't accuse anyone on FARK of pederasty, though I find it disturbing that there are people who think there could be a grey area here as applied to 11- and 14 year-olds. Very disturbing. Kids see the world differently from adults, and the fact that many adults act like 14 year-olds is poor justification for lowering the age of consent. Irrational.


Animatronik

This post is from hdhale, a guy I usually disagree with, but here his remark is spot on:

Sorry I don't lust after this girl, nor do I think that the men who have made remarks here on Fark to that effect actually do either. Guys who lust after grossly underage females don't come on chat boards like this one and proclaim their fetish.
 
2005-05-22 11:14:19 PM
If only we had these chicks during WW2.
 
2005-05-22 11:15:46 PM
Animatronik

The truth is, though, that the pervs who'd like to see the AOC lowered to say, 14 years, don't really care about teenagers' brains or development or well-being. They've got a closet full of porn like japanese cartoons that show little schoolgirls getting it on with older guys. They're excited by it so they want to act like a 14 year-old's brain is the same as an 18 year-olds. It's not, and if you keep saying it is you need to go into therapy. For the sake of any teenagers who cross your path.

I'm not going to say whether I agree or not to what you're implying; however, if you make irrational generalizations, you won't garner any support at all.

That article doesn't support your position at all, by the way. It's about stress-testing in adolescents and young adults.
 
2005-05-22 11:19:23 PM
People feel shame and guilt because they were TAUGHT to feel shame and guilt. Shame and guilt do not exist naturally in human beings -- they must be taught through sociological processes.

Right. Please get to your point. You do have a point, don't you? I took that class and many more just like it; about 4 years worth. While I appreciate the definitions, let's move this forward a little quicker. Thanks.
 
2005-05-22 11:19:50 PM
THE AGE OF CONSENT FALLACY DISPELLED ONCE AND FOR ALL:

If a 14 year old girl has sex with an older man she is a CHILD who was "raped."

If the same 14 year old girl kills 12 people with an Uzi she was an ADULT and will be punished t the fullest extent of the law.

Somebody care to explain that one to me?
 
2005-05-22 11:20:53 PM
NokNoKCPU

There is a lot of research to support what I'm saying. MRI's show dramatic changes in brain activity throughout adolescence. You're just dodging the point.

Besides that, the is no common-sense argument that says a 14 year-old thinks like an 18 year-old.
 
2005-05-22 11:22:10 PM
Animatronik

As was previously mentioned, there was a memorable episode of Married With Children guest starring Milla Jovovich as a sexy foreign exchange student. There was sexual innuendo peppered throughout the whole episode. I remember having quite the fondness for this episode during my teenage years.

I recently learned that Milla was 13 when she did that show. Watch the episode, and I dare you not to find a grey area.

When that episode gets re-run, should I close my ears, shut my mouth and join you, smeegle and smallfry in hiding under the bed?
 
2005-05-22 11:22:39 PM
Oh_Enough_Already

I have no problem with that one: children should not be tried as adults. Children should having sex with adults are being raped. Case closed.



THE AGE OF CONSENT FALLACY DISPELLED ONCE AND FOR ALL:

If a 14 year old girl has sex with an older man she is a CHILD who was "raped."

If the same 14 year old girl kills 12 people with an Uzi she was an ADULT and will be punished t the fullest extent of the law.

Somebody care to explain that one to me?
 
2005-05-22 11:24:55 PM
Mayhem_King

Right. Please get to your point. You do have a point, don't you? I took that class and many more just like it; about 4 years worth. While I appreciate the definitions, let's move this forward a little quicker. Thanks.

The point is that you were thoroughly trounced.
Now I shall be moving on, as I have wasted enough of my time as it is.
 
2005-05-22 11:25:51 PM
I meant to saying:

Children should not be tried as adults, but adults should be tried for statutory rape.

And Mary Kay is now free to marry her former student. Maybe he's an example of an adult who nevered matured in his thinking about sex. Gee, I wonder WHY??
 
2005-05-22 11:27:09 PM
If there's grass on the infield ... PLAY BALL!
 
2005-05-22 11:30:41 PM
The Saint of Killers [TotalFark]

The fact that Milla Jovovich could be sexy at 13 doesn't make you, me, or anyone else a perv for being turned on by it. Acting on it through porno or worse is what makes you a perv.

Again, it's not about sexual maturity, we all know it happens by 11-15 depending on ehtnicity, etc. It's about the brain. It's about emotions and socialization as well. there are plenty of good reasons not to let teeenagers act like adults. There are plenty of well-documented reasons to make 16 the driving age (17 or 18 may be better, acoording to recent studies).
 
2005-05-22 11:31:13 PM
From a developmental standpoint there is no such thing as a 'typical' person of any specific age. They are all created based on models or averages.

Therefore, due to environment and genetics there could indeed be two people who function on the same 'maturity' level at age 14 and age 18.

I don't think this is a good reason to toss out an age of consent, but I do believe it should be taken into account when forming legislation as to exceptions (such as two minors etc).
 
2005-05-22 11:31:47 PM
But is she an 11-year-old virgin, who's really only 28, and really not a virgin?

/buys eggs for seven cents, then sells them at a profit for three cents.
 
2005-05-22 11:36:07 PM
The point is that you were thoroughly trounced.
Now I shall be moving on, as I have wasted enough of my time as it is.


Thoroughly trounced on what? My initial comments were directed at an individual. In turn, you started posting irrelevant definitions with no explanation as to the point you were trying to make. You still haven't made a point. If you have one, please make it.

If you are posting on Fark, your time isn't all that valuable, is it? So, your point please. What exactly is it?

Oh, I see. You are being pressured to produce a point and now it is time to declare victory, the value of your time, and how you must move on. Right. The "shall" part was especially touching. Added a sense of authority to your dodge. Almost made it seem as though you are too sophisticated to continue this argument with someone as dull witted as myself. Obviously, I am intellectually and educationally too inferior for you to actually share your friggin' point with. No doubt, because you have better things to do; you'll move on now.
 
2005-05-22 11:39:27 PM
Acting on it through porno or worse is what makes you a perv.

But are these pictures pornographic? Those who claim they are must not have seen them, because all I see is a clothed girl posing for a camera.
 
2005-05-22 11:39:44 PM
Animatronik

Children having sex with adults are being raped. Case closed.

So, I'm sitting poolside at some resort and some total hottie who looks like she's at least 22 comes up to me, whispers sweet nothings in my ear about how she's hot for balding hermit writers in their thirties and invites me up to her room.

She proceeds to fark my brains out for the next three hours, kisses me good bye and disapears back into the ether.

Three weeks later I find out she was 16 and not 22.

I raped her???


P.S.

A hundred years ago when the average life expectancy was about half of what it is now and 14 and 15 year olds were getting married left and right, were their husbands raping them???

No one is helped by laws that try to enforce edicts that fly in the face and are in contradiction to biology and evolution.
 
2005-05-22 11:40:58 PM
Bravo Occam, bravo.

/8 year olds, dude.
 
2005-05-22 11:47:46 PM
Three weeks later I find out she was 16 and not 22.

I raped her???


No, you statutory-raped her! And you'd be in good company: Charlie Chaplin, Babe Ruth, Jerry Seinfeld, and most of the Roman Emperors.
 
2005-05-22 11:50:08 PM
Aias

For the benefit of the other Farkers wanting proof, there has been an explosion of articles that indicate major changes up to about age 18 or 19 in many brains examined using new methods. Again even if SEXUAL maturation may vary, I'd place a big bet that cognitive maturation is still going on.

You may find a stunted 18 year-old that is like a 14 year-old, but I would bet a lot of money that you rarely find a 14 year-old with a brain like an 18 year-olds. That's enough to convince me to call them children. I guess if you want to call them adults you can always find a reason.

1: Trends Cogn Sci. 2005 Feb;9(2):60-8. Related Articles, Links

Mapping brain maturation and cognitive development during adolescence.

Paus T.

Brain and Body Centre, University of Nottingham, Nottingham, UK. to­ma­s­*paus[nospam-﹫-backwards]ma­h­gnitto­n*ac*u­k

Non-invasive mapping of brain structure and function with magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) has opened up unprecedented opportunities for studying the neural substrates underlying cognitive development. There is an emerging consensus of a continuous increase throughout adolescence in the volume of white matter, both global and local. There is less agreement on the meaning of asynchronous age-related decreases in the volume of grey matter in different cortical regions; these might equally represent loss ("pruning") or gain (intra-cortical myelination) of tissue. Functional MRI studies have so far focused mostly on executive functions, such as working memory and behavioural inhibition, with very few addressing questions regarding the maturation of social cognition. Future directions for research in this area are discussed in the context of processing biological motion and matching perceptions and actions.



From a developmental standpoint there is no such thing as a 'typical' person of any specific age. They are all created based on models or averages.

Therefore, due to environment and genetics there could indeed be two people who function on the same 'maturity' level at age 14 and age 18.
 
daz
2005-05-22 11:51:20 PM
Oh_Enough_Already
I raped her???

Yes because, even at 16, she doesn't have enough life experience to understand the full consequences of that action and appreciate sex as something more than two morons humping to get off.

were their husbands raping them???

Just because it was "legal" doesn't mean it's right or good. It was exploiting young girls. Those girls never really had a chance at their own life. They were thrown right into marriage and never were themselves. They never had a chance to be their own person. Is that right?

No one is helped by laws that try to enforce edicts that fly in the face and are in contradiction to biology and evolution.

No one is helped by explointing young women and ruining their whole life because of your warped sense of morality and your sexual perversions.
 
2005-05-22 11:58:05 PM
Dude, how was O_E_A_ explointing them?
 
2005-05-22 11:58:28 PM
The Saint of Killers [TotalFark]

When i say porno, I mean sexually explicit, not a photo of a girl in a bikini. Again, I wouldn't feel bad for being turned on by the photo, even though I'm not.

The ambiguity you might feel in looking at a sexually precocious child does not change the fact that she is a child and incapable of responding to you as an adult. Having large breasts does not make her an adult. It also doesn't mean that she magically becomes a candidate for a lowered age of consent.




But are these pictures pornographic? Those who claim they are must not have seen them, because all I see is a clothed girl posing for a camera.
 
2005-05-22 11:58:36 PM
Me: If you are trying to tell me that people do not feel either "shame" or "guilt", then I've got some news for you... They do. A word is just a representation. Of course it's a construct. They feelings and emotions backing them however, are real.

You: You made a global statement about the nature of emotion. However, not all people feel shame or guilt. Also, the emotions shame and guilt are social constructs -- if people weren't taught that certain actions, thoughts, or emotions were to bring shame and guilt, then participating in those actions, thinking those thoughts, or having those emotions wouldn't bring about shame or guilt. Do you understand what I am saying? Let me sum it up for you in case you don't.

People feel shame and guilt because they were TAUGHT to feel shame and guilt. Shame and guilt do not exist naturally in human beings -- they must be taught through sociological processes.


I didn't make a global statement. I made a statement about a specific person.

2005-05-22 07:27:45 PM NokNoKCPU

Mayhem_King

My guess is that your guilt is what caused you to post in outrage. Your own guilt is why you are posting that the rest of us should feel shame. The link goes to a text article. The picture of the girl was posted in this thread. For some reason, in your mind, the picture became "pornographic" and "sick". The only reason for you to post that we should feel shamed is because you are feeling shame.

"Shame" and "guilt" are sociological constructs. Technically speaking, they don't exist. Human beings created those concepts.

Thus, the emotion called "shame" or "guilt" comes from the culture taught by the society in which an individual lives. An action is taken, and the individual is taught that the appropriate response to that action or to feelings associated with that action are "shame" and "guilt."


You were trying to explain to me that shame and guilt do not exist. You then tried to deploy an example of a personality disorder but didn't bother to connect the dots and to explain how a personality disorder was relevant to my comments about smallfry, someone who in my opinion is projecting personal issues onto the rest of us. Scary. Personal. Issues. While I appreciate you explaining to me the sociological origin of such feelings, I still have no idea what point you were or are trying to make. Whether or not feelings of guilt and shame are nature or nurture are irrelevant to my post to smallfry.

So in conclusion, if you are arguing with me, I;'m not sure what your argument is. So far, I agree with everything you posted. It's common knowledge. it would be hard to disagree with the basics of psychology and sociology. Not sure how what you posted applies to my post directed at smallfry who was as obvious in her projecting as you were with the level of your education.

Hopefully, she'll get the help she needs and hopefully you'll graduate from college.

BTW, you do know that in your post, you acknowledged that feelings of fear and guilt do exist, right? You kind of agreed with me.

This is the part where I get to declare, I shall waste no more of my precious time and will dispatch from this thread posthaste!
 
2005-05-23 12:06:12 AM
This is the only post I've seen where everyone wants pics and nobody will say I hit it.
 
2005-05-23 12:06:32 AM
I raped her???

You had sex with someone who was not capable of giving legal consent. Not the same as rape. More similar to having sex with a sheep. You sick, sick, bastard.

BTW, I know you made that story up. Hot 16-year olds do not walk up to balding 30-year olds at a hotel pool and give them great sex and disappear. At least not without getting paid.

What you are guilty of is having a fantasy.
 
2005-05-23 12:08:48 AM
I think that you're making a rather typical mistake of attempting to enforce your country's warped morality on another nation. Until the USA re-invades Japan, I dont think you're going to be able to be in any position to judge what they do. At least not in any way that it will make one single bit of difference. For all you frantically screaming "pedophile" You'd best seek some therapy, you're doing whats commonly called projection. The fact is that if you did not have a lable on the girl's photo stating that she was 11, most of you wouldn't have the slightest idea how old she is and would be happily helping your god kill kittens over her and her cute boobies.

One man's morals are another man's ethnic joke.
 
2005-05-23 12:09:16 AM
She is not an F Cup. She may or not be 12 as the page says. But I think the whole perv factor is pretty clear in the page title alone much less the photos.

"A cute 12-year-old gal who has great potential...." EEEWWWW.

Hang em all.
 
2005-05-23 12:16:10 AM
Memoryalpha


Blah-blah-blah-blah.

In this case projection applies as follows: believing that you are looking at a picture of a child with large breasts (and you are right, that may not be the case here), you project your desire that she be mature enough onto her so that you BELIEVE she is as mature as an adult even though that is DECIDELY, unequivocally, not the case for a 12-year old.

I knew a guy with issues and fantasies about Japanese schoolgirls and yes, he did move to Japan. In some places, they go wild over the gaijin (remember the olympic skier?) Maybe you should move there, too, if you think it's an issue of warped morality, cause I don't.



I think that you're making a rather typical mistake of attempting to enforce your country's warped morality on another nation. Until the USA re-invades Japan, I dont think you're going to be able to be in any position to judge what they do. At least not in any way that it will make one single bit of difference. For all you frantically screaming "pedophile" You'd best seek some therapy, you're doing whats commonly called projection. The fact is that if you did not have a lable on the girl's photo stating that she was 11, most of you wouldn't have the slightest idea how old she is and would be happily helping your god kill kittens over her and her cute boobies.

One man's morals are another man's ethnic joke.
 
2005-05-23 12:23:36 AM
This is gross. I can't believe this got GLed.

It's probably not kiddie porn [it's not true porn], but it's probably wrong in some way.

This country may be a little prude on sex, but an 11 or 12 year old can't be mentally mature enough to be informed in this decision.
 
2005-05-23 12:28:18 AM
What I want to know is where are her parents in all this?

Because, you know, I bet her mom is totally hot.
 
2005-05-23 12:34:05 AM
I feel bad for the poor girl. She'll have back issues later.
 
2005-05-23 12:52:45 AM
This link is on pace to crack the top 25. That's kind of crazy
 
2005-05-23 12:55:56 AM
bah, this thread needs more lil amber:



to whoever said they'd let their 11-year-old daughter pose sexually in a bikini as long as the bikini stayed on .. .please sterilize yourself so that the rest of us don't have to pay for your future daughter's 11 kids with 11 different baby daddies.
 
2005-05-23 12:57:24 AM
i'd hit it...

/if I was closer to her age...
//starts countdown clock to age of legal consent
 
2005-05-23 01:02:02 AM
I'd hit it.
 
2005-05-23 01:06:39 AM
Nice tits!!!
 
2005-05-23 01:07:09 AM
*** Animatronik

*** Blah-blah-blah-blah.

You should have stopped with the above, the rest merely supported my argument, especially the personal attack you attempted to passively deliver. Now quit being a troll and go back to doing whatever it is you do when you aren't trying to fight a battle of wits while unarmed.
 
2005-05-23 01:08:03 AM
So sometimes men do want to fark children, esp. of they're attractive. Its not like you're Humbert Humbert or a puritan, black or white. There are shades of nasty loser filthy heinous pervert and we hang out on Fark Forums together. This should not be greenlighted. But look at its draw. This is who we are.
 
2005-05-23 01:10:28 AM
No officer i swear she said she was 18. just look at those f cups, can u deny the power of the boobies?
 
2005-05-23 01:19:35 AM
just curious as something that has always bugged me about statutory rape laws. you can be tried for statutory rape if you have sex with a girl who is 17 years and 11 months... but at 18 years on their birthday, it is perfectly legal? this person has matured so much in 1 month that they are now able to choose who they have sex with?
 
2005-05-23 01:20:46 AM
Looks like Paris's search for a new sidekick is over.
 
2005-05-23 01:45:14 AM
Hadith, Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64~ Mohammed farked a nine year old. Yes, that Mohammed.
Nine.
This thread is now Kinsey approved. (Table 34, google it)
Two darlings of the left.
I blame the current problems we are facing on the Democrats.
/not gonna stop, gonna troll til I drop
 
2005-05-23 01:46:00 AM
To everyone who cares what work thinks of your browing habits... You can thank "Admiral Ackbar's Kunt Smells Like Fish" for the fact that your work sees that you have viewed an image from www.lilamber.com
 
2005-05-23 01:56:37 AM
If you are a man and scream 'kiddie porn' in reaction to the pictures then you are ashamed at your internal reaction to them.

If you are a woman and scream 'kiddie porn' in reaction to the picture then you are just externalizing your jealousy.
 
2005-05-23 02:01:31 AM
Milla Jovovovovovich in Married with Children

http://www.geocities.com/xcitepeople/Milla_Jovovich/photo_01.htm

Watch her blossom before your eyes!
Warning: Page 2 NSFW - half a nipple revealed in Return to the Blue Lagoon
 
2005-05-23 02:04:25 AM
sentient_being

Yes, and clearly in the context of his attraction to them. Boy, IQs are really hitting rock bottom in this thread with the hypersensitive crowd.

I never disputed the context in which the comment was made, nor did I really say anything about my opinion on it. I was just pointing out what he actually said since you seemed to be trying to put it differently. His opinion and his (maybe) bigoted comments are not nearly as offensive to me as your insinuations that I'm an idiot. And, even that isn't worth losing sleep over. Regardless, I doubt you'll read this anyway.
 
2005-05-23 02:08:07 AM
Kind of reminds me of Sara Shimada, who went from this to this. (NSFW)

/felt creepy seeing her younger pics, even though she is older than me
//felt better seeing her older pics
 
2005-05-23 02:12:43 AM
You guys are all prudes and perves, and I am not posting here since law enforcement is obviously monitoring this thread and everyone in it...d'oh!
 
2005-05-23 02:32:06 AM
Dear People,

is it bad that im angry....because an F Cup should look a lot bigger! On yeah who cares if she's 11...as long as your not jollying off to it.

PS. THAT IS NOT AN F CUP!
 
2005-05-23 02:53:35 AM
Remember, and this is important:

F is for Jiggle.

//11 year-olds are the hotter than 10 year-olds
//If there is hair on the taco, play ball
 
2005-05-23 02:55:10 AM
As others have mentioned, the lower parts of our brains see signs of sexual maturity, and respond. The upper portions of our brains will put the brakes on, especially since we have such a hang up about it in our culture.

Age of consent is generally lower in Europe, quite a bit lower in some countries. My understanding is that they have fewer problems with sex in average. Probably not just because of the lower AOC laws, but due to a healthier attitude about sex in general.

I might find some underage girls (by that I mean under 18) who were physically mature beyond their years attractive. So what? Feeling the urge is normal. Acting on it is not. When I see hot high school aged girls, all it takes to kill the fantasy is to imagine their taste in music. All that we would have in common is that we are both carbon based forms of life. But it is still fun to think about.

To me it is a lot like having a friend who has a very hot girlfriend or wife. Of course you lust after her; you just don't act on it in any way (other than possibly fantasies, which harm no one). What man here couldn't relate to Kevin Spacey's character in American Beauty?
 
2005-05-23 03:27:24 AM
Anybody that's here and posting must have had at least an inkling of curiousity to even enter this forum. That goes for the pervs and the indignant moral crusaders.
 
2005-05-23 03:32:05 AM
Fish in a Barrel: Seriously, why the fark is that included?

It is believed that blood type determines compatibility. Sort of like saying a woman's a Virgo here.
 
2005-05-23 03:33:47 AM
Admiral Ackbar's Kunt Smells Like Fish:

to whoever said they'd let their 11-year-old daughter pose sexually in a bikini as long as the bikini stayed on .. .please sterilize yourself so that the rest of us don't have to pay for your future daughter's 11 kids with 11 different baby daddies.

Of course she'll be over sexed and cranking out kids, cause it's those with a represive attitude to sex, (Catholics, Mormons, etc.) that have the fewest kids.
 
2005-05-23 03:34:50 AM
This site needs to be introduced to this one:
http://bancomicsans.com
Too lazy to link it.
 
2005-05-23 03:42:58 AM
You can delude yourselves all you like, but as soon as she opens her mouth, you do not see adult teeth. She doesn't look 18, or anything close to that. She looks like she's 11 with anomalous boobs.
 
2005-05-23 03:45:40 AM
NewFarker:

Okay. I don't have a problem with these pictures, in and of themselves. I think people are really over-reacting. Here's a few things to consider, in order to properly frame your thoughts on this topic.

Do you remember the story from Japan about pseudo-pedophilia? Guys who fantasize about underaged girls but only date women their own age. One quote stood out, (and I'm paraphrasing here), "They represent innocence and exuberance, but in reality they are just immature."

I may have found Milla Jovovich attractive when she was still underaged, but I bet she was way too immature for me to want to have sex with her.
 
2005-05-23 03:53:17 AM
SkArcher:

She's very attractive.

Would I hit it? No, because I have a certain ingrained wish not to get imprisoned.


For me prison doesn't even enter into the equation. While she looks cute, I have a hard time believing she could live up to my emotional and intelectual maturity requirements.

I'd also like to point out that cultures that have an open policy of sexuality and gender studies in the early stages of education tend to have a lower incidence of teenage pregnancy, teenage abortion, sexual abuse of teens (because they know how and when to say "no") and a generally more balanced outlook at life than the repressive (and hypocritical) ideology of the modern US.

There's nothing like education to help people make informed decisions. I wonder why so many in the States are opposed to it.
 
2005-05-23 04:29:58 AM
2005-05-22 07:38:05 PM super44

Wow. I didn't know Asians came that big, naturally that is.
 
2005-05-23 04:45:28 AM
This thread needs more young girl pics.






"No but yeah but yeah but yeah no but yeah no but yeah... ...but no because I'm not even going on the pill... ...because Nadine reckons they stop you from getting pregnant."
 
2005-05-23 05:35:23 AM
my eyes are burning....my eyes are burning.

help!!!
 
2005-05-23 06:05:37 AM
To all you ignorant, self-rightous cooks, here's a fact for you:

--- Humans are evolved for fark I N G ---

Tits and ass are a sexual signal, ensuring men will fark and signalling that a women is ready to fark, or at least ready to attract a mate even if she can't yet conceive.

The phenotype is a vehicle for the genotype. It is our biological imperative. Get over it.
 
2005-05-23 06:29:38 AM
Subscription to Fark Vanilla................................................................zero dollars.
Internet access at my mom's house...................................................zero dollars.
Insanely hot pics of grossly underaged Japanese woman.................zero dollars.
Dead kitten nightmares
Palms like Chewbacca
Racking up 30,000,000 bonus miles with Handbasket Airlines....................priceless.
 
2005-05-23 06:33:25 AM


Those who are tardy do NOT GET F-CUP!!!
 
2005-05-23 06:55:25 AM
I didn't realize there were so many pedophiles on the internet.

It makes me cry.

/for God's sake, 11 years old.
 
2005-05-23 06:59:52 AM
Diskord: I didn't realize there were so many pedophiles on the internet.

First day on the internets?
 
2005-05-23 07:19:24 AM
That is not an F-cup

Have Faith, young ones!
 
2005-05-23 07:20:35 AM
2005-05-23 12:06:32 AM Mayhem_King

Hot 16-year olds do not walk up to balding 30-year olds at a hotel pool and give them great sex and disappear.

Now you tell me...AFTER I've already paid for my trip to Thailand.

Okay, in all seriousness (and keep in mind that I'm the one who made clown-porn jokes earlier) this whole thing is futile.

YES...tarted-up pictures of an 11 year old over-developed girl are wrong...even if they're simply "Maxim"-level pics.

NO...other societies are not the same as North America when it comes to this sort of thing.

NO...none of the smartasses in this forum REALLY want to "hit that"...they're just being smartasses.

YES...many of the people who would pass judgement on smartasses for making smartass comments about these pics or these threads are the VERY SAME people who wouldn't think twice about entering their own kids into kiddie-beauty pageants.

YES...age of consent is a construct...and many societies have a much lower "age of consent" barrier. But at the same time, the kids there are raised differently with different values. Thusly, North American kids are NOT the same as European or Asian kids. The maturity level is different.

YES...even then someone younger than the North American "age of consent" CAN be mature enough to make their own decisions. AT THE SAME TIME, many people OVER the same age threshold are NOT capable of making that decision.

NO...that STILL doesn't make it right for North Americans to objectify younger people. This is NOT an excuse for either lusting after foreign teens or projecting those qualities on North American teens.

NO...the pics of this girl are not "Kiddie Porn"...watch a child beauty pageant sometime...you'll see much younger kids looking a lot more provacative.

YES...the pictures are still inappropriate for most of us to gawk at. After we get over the "she has THOSE at her age?" way of thinking, there's nothing alluring.

Both sides have good points. Whaddya say we all just agree on the statements above and stop getting all judgemental on each other?

/I'm still gonna be a smartass though
//now both sides of the argument probably hate me
///but not the ones who can think for themselves.
 
2005-05-23 07:24:55 AM
Goddammit.
/gets smacked with a boob.

Let me try that again:
 
2005-05-23 07:36:32 AM
Attention whore...
 
2005-05-23 07:40:34 AM
Girls these days mature so young...
 
2005-05-23 08:04:50 AM
CanSomeonePleaseKilltheChristmasShoes
you are being an idiot
 
2005-05-23 08:31:00 AM
I lived in Japan for 6 years as a teen. Back then (and now?) the age of consent was 13. It was illegal to BUY sex from a young girl but she could give it up.

I am a 25 year old female now and I see nothing at all wrong with 13 being the age limit for sexual activity. I definitely see something wrong with 11 year olds having SEX ... this girl in the article is not having sex... she is just posing in a bikini for christ sake. Any person that wishes to see far more "exciting" material than this can take a trip to the local beach. This summer there were 8 to 12 year olds all over the beaches in THONGS for christ sake.

So this girl is 11. Let her make her money. Little girls are not innocent magical creaters. They are curious and like to manipulate ... they like to have spending money. If she can make that cash as a model it is not our concern. Save your scorn and worry for those girls her age that are NOT as pretty as she is and actually have to sell THEMSELVES rather than pictures of themselves.
 
2005-05-23 09:12:13 AM
"This is sick"
"anybody who looked at this is sick"
"This is kiddie porn"
*insert random law here...

this is for all of you:
 
2005-05-23 09:28:35 AM
I love armchair puritans.
 
2005-05-23 10:29:45 AM
Looks like it's time for a vicars and schoolgirls Fark party.
 
2005-05-23 10:31:51 AM
F-cup? What, does the Japanese language have like 152 letters or something?
 
2005-05-23 11:17:09 AM
Is it just me or are girls maturing a lot faster than they used to? And should this be a cause for concern at all?

Some are suggesting that this is due to more sedentary lifestyles (young female gymnasts with strict diet and exercise regimens enter puberty much later) or possibly even man-made chemicals that act as hormone disruptors and end up screwing up a girl's biochemistry.

Either way, we have a bunch of mentally young minds trapped inside mature bodies.
 
2005-05-23 11:22:01 AM

festus


helioquake: She's 11 years old, man, 11 freakin' years old. Get a hold of yourself!

Heheheheh. Get ... .hold ... of .... yourself....

Well OK!

Tell that to submitter!!

And there's nothing wrong with looking at a picture ...



This is an 11 year old CHILD! What if that were your daughter? Your commentary is reprehensible.

When did we start using the innocent and naieve as sex objects? You people disgust me, and I can't imagine how you can possibly call yourselves men.
 
2005-05-23 11:24:02 AM
smallfry
When it comes to the matter of child porn- I find nothing funny with it. Ever.
-----------------

A: Not Porn (unless endowed 11 year-old girls at the pool give YOU a chub! [ahem])

B: Anything and everything CAN be funny (including WTFever might be your pet "issue")

/father of two school-aged girls
//get over yourself
 
2005-05-23 11:33:21 AM
BiggityBanninated

WON"T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
 
2005-05-23 11:45:17 AM
That's horrifying.
 
2005-05-23 11:46:59 AM
Not that anyone is still reading this thread, but jeez, did smallfry even realize that he/she is commenting on a text-only link? The pictures were posted in the THREAD, which means smallfry must have seen them while reading the thread...oh wait...sorry, blonde moment. This person read the headline and overreacted. Wowee, someone needs a Valium or a Xanax to relax - practically foaming at the mouth over a text article. I'm done now.
 
2005-05-23 11:51:13 AM
When did we start using the innocent and naieve as sex objects?

Hmm... I think it was somewhere around THE DAWN OF HUMAN HISTORY.
 
2005-05-23 12:03:13 PM
Animatronik writes:

And I wouldn't accuse anyone on FARK of pederasty, though I find it disturbing that there are people who think there could be a grey area here as applied to 11- and 14 year-olds. Very disturbing. Kids see the world differently from adults, and the fact that many adults act like 14 year-olds is poor justification for lowering the age of consent. Irrational.

I would say there is a grey area with regard to imagery. Relations are another matter and between a 11 year old and any age male that involve sexual intercourse are just flat wrong. At 14, many (but not most) girls are losing their virginity to somewhat older boys (15-17). I approve of a 20-something guy and a 14 year old female having intercourse. Most likely not.

Point is that maturity-wise, both physically and emotionally, there is a big difference between 11 and 14--I would set the age ranges differently, say 10-13.

daz writes:

Oh_Enough_Already
I raped her???

Yes because, even at 16, she doesn't have enough life experience to understand the full consequences of that action and appreciate sex as something more than two morons humping to get off.


I would strongly disagree with your conclusion here.

While you could argue that some females aren't ready for sex yet at 16, the vast majority are. By your standard, females should wait until their 20s to have intercourse, and even then there are some that lack sufficent understanding of the consequences of sex to "qualify" to have it.

I think it's more a question of sex education, not emotional maturity.

A 16 year old female that seduces an older man clearly has emotional maturity--else most likely the man would wonder why this girl was bothering him. Whether she is having sex for the right reasons is another matter.

Just because it was "legal" doesn't mean it's right or good. It was exploiting young girls. Those girls never really had a chance at their own life. They were thrown right into marriage and never were themselves. They never had a chance to be their own person. Is that right?

My mom met my dad when she was 14 (lied about her age too) and he was 18. They dated for some time before getting married when she was 17. I was born when she was 18. She at NO point ever felt "exploited" nor unfulfilled. Indeed, I've known many, many women over the years that came from similar situations (ending up with even older men) and were happy.

I'm not saying that every woman necessarily will be fulfilled starting early in serious relationships, because clearly there are women for whom that is simply not true. But to make blanket statements that someone who is 16 is being "raped" or "exploited" by an older man just by virtue
of having sex with him is wrong. This is a much more case-by-case basis thing.

--h
 
2005-05-23 12:08:37 PM
poot_rootbeer

True 'dat.
 
2005-05-23 12:34:05 PM
 
2005-05-23 12:36:06 PM
What's with the Japanese and school girls?

I think Fark may need a 'Japan' tag
 
2005-05-23 12:44:59 PM
Never mind the actual age of the model . . .

What about hard core porn that features LEGAL AGE girls who look Waaaaaaaaaay younger than this Japanese girl?

There is a ton of that out there.

Would you moralists still object to that?

Should they forgo making a living just because they look young???
 
2005-05-23 01:09:37 PM
the way the photos were taken makes her look older than she actually is... thats why u pervs are all getting worked up. she was born in 93 for god's sake, young enough to be a daughter to a whole bunch of u farkers. However, if she decides to be a porn star when she's 18, all this hype is gonna be good for her resume hahaha
 
2005-05-23 01:31:33 PM
BrotherAlpha

There's nothing like education to help people make informed decisions. I wonder why so many in the States are opposed to it.

That's a whole different Flamewar Brother, a whole different Flamewar.
 
2005-05-23 01:31:42 PM
BiggityBanninated
When did we start using the innocent and naieve as sex objects?

around 6537 bc, I think.
 
2005-05-23 01:45:48 PM
Id hit it, seriously.

//If i got busted id claim she said she was 18.. should could pass.. maybe
 
2005-05-23 01:46:36 PM
Read this guy's editorials and while it probably not explain WTF is up it might confirm a few things:

http://outpostnine.com/editorials/teacher.html
 
2005-05-23 01:55:47 PM
Couple things for the clueless.

1) Japanese Breast Cup Size Is DIFFERENT than the US cup size (Translation yes she is an F cup in Japan)

2) Most of you twits have no idea what actual breasts are sized at, the user who suggested this girl is an American 'A' cup needs to go ask the counter girl at any lingerie store how to size a bra

3) The number before the cup size is not an indicator of the size of the breast, but of the Circumference of the ribcage + 5 inches measured just under the breast.
 
2005-05-23 01:58:32 PM
To continue, see here for US cup size examples (for the morons who think D = FATTYMCFATFAT)

NSFW
http://www.afraidtoask.com/breast/breastsize.html
 
2005-05-23 02:18:01 PM
Jeez, some of you on here need to get off the soapbox, others need to put down the vaseline. While it would seem that the pictures they speak of are in bad taste (to the sexually repressed majority here in the US) they are not illegal. I'll agree, any guy who tries to nail an 11 year old has issues (unless hes the same age, then he's probably Italian) But lets be serious here folks, most of what has been said on here is people just trying to stir the shiat. While there are some sick wackos on here, it is Fark, isn't it, the vast majority of us do not have that much screwed up wiring. Its the internet people... take it with a salt shaker.
 
2005-05-23 02:31:14 PM
I went to Army Basic Training with a fellow from the mountains of Tennesee (a real live honest to goodness hillbilly). He told me that a 12 year old is in her prime. If a gal got to 20 he wouldn't have anything to do with her.

So I guess that if you want to see the morals in play in Japan and Europe just head on over to Appalachia.

If you feel that the sexual culture in the U.S. is repressed and we should look to the forward thinking, liberated Japanese and Europeans for guidance then head on over to the hollows and hills of Tennesee.
 
2005-05-23 02:33:10 PM
THE KITTENS ARE FIGHTING BACK

 
2005-05-23 02:40:59 PM
Exploited at 12 for somewhat 'sexually oriented' pictures = hardcore porn at age 18. The parents of that child should be ashamed.
 
2005-05-23 03:01:07 PM
She's way too young. Call me in 3 years.

Oh yeah, it's only the Japanese who do this sick shiat. Jonbenet was japanese, right. RIGHT?
 
2005-05-23 03:08:41 PM
How old do you think this girl is? OK not the "day-care," infant that crawled right in front before the snap shot?...
 
2005-05-23 03:08:58 PM
To Smeegle & others with a similar viewpoint , no crime has been committed & law enforcement isn't monitoring this as they have much more useful things to do with their time.
However calling someone a pedophile or child molester & especially if a complaint/charge were made to law enforcement about this this article posted . For that matter also any of the people that posted here .With the way people are getting stirred up over this matter is pathetic! It wouldn't surprise me if someone does file a complaint with the FBI/Police & yes e-mail etc.. can be traced ,so all the people posting here could be located .

Who ever does something this stupid will be in for a BIG surprise when they are sued for libel/slander an it could be some $$ serious money at risk .
A warning to all those judgemental people on their soapbox , there can be real-world consequences to your actions so be careful !
 
2005-05-23 03:11:29 PM
Meh, when I was 13 and starting to get those guy hormones, I surethought girls my around my age were hot...
I'm still the same person now, and while we all try to repress those thoughts, it's hard to deny that it is a part of our psyche.

/flame on
 
2005-05-23 03:19:19 PM
Huge titted asians are teh hot! A 11-yr-old jap chick with huge ones is bound to get bigger! Can't wait to see what they look like in a few years!
 
2005-05-23 03:26:54 PM
need to get off this thread as Im at work and this turned ugly(dirty). NEway, the pic I posted is my 22yr old cousin who models. Looks much younger.
 
2005-05-23 03:50:48 PM
If big b00bs are what y'all are looking for, go look up Nadine Jansen.
 
2005-05-23 03:51:58 PM
ehan

16-17 easy.
 
2005-05-23 04:29:26 PM
anyone else weirded out by the fact that ehahn used a picture of his cousin to prove a point about what is or is not sexually creepy?
 
2005-05-23 05:00:20 PM
I find it weird that ehahn takes pictures of his 22 year old cousin in cheerleader outfits. He also seems to have a strange fetish to include african american babies in the photo. ehahn how many more pictures of your cousin do you have on your computer? Got any nude ones(without african american babies)?
 
2005-05-23 05:18:48 PM
I can't believe someone hasn't posted this already...


 
2005-05-23 05:26:48 PM
Hey now, I do not take any pics! It was her Halloween costume and her friend took the pics. She just sent me her pics. I chose that one b/c of the topic here (about young girls posing for pics and their age(looking older or they are older but look young,etc...))
 
2005-05-23 05:52:03 PM
those pictures are very very creepy and obviously taken and marketed for the purposes of titillating (no pun intended) and arousing men.

that said, they're not porn. not even close. i looked at them. i found them unsettling and sad, but they're not illegal in the US.

also, this girl is definitely older than 11. kudutx86 and others who claim she must be 11 or 12 because her birthday is 1993: this may be news to you, but people lie over the internet. especially when they're trying to sell you something. just because her birth year is listed as 1993 doesn't mean she wasn't actually born in 1989. many girls, but especially asian girls, can look much younger than they are. my girlfriend is 20 but gets mistaken for 15-17 all the time. and if you dressed her up the right way she could easily look younger than that. the fact that this girl does have boobs suggests that she's probably at least 15.

finally, she's a C-cup at most. i guess the japanese must have a different cup-sizing nomenclature.
 
2005-05-23 06:23:55 PM
"(c) NONREQUIRED ELEMENT OF OFFENSE- It is not a required element of any offense under this section that the minor depicted actually exist."
What??!! i must be misunderstanding this one. can anyone clarify for me?
 
2005-05-23 06:46:34 PM
ehahn

I hope you have your cousins permission for posting pics of her on teh internet. And if that fly girl in the cheerleader outfit is your cousin...



 
2005-05-23 07:29:01 PM
And to anyone who cares:

Pedophilia: the sexual interest is toward children, either prepubescent or at the beginning of puberty.

Ephebophilia: the condition in which adults are dependent on the sexual attraction to postpubescent adolescents (aka Lolita syndrome).

Key point: if you like boobies, but you like them on young'uns, you're #2. If you're aroused by young'uns without descernable sexual characteristics, you're #1. Our society is a ephebophiliac-producing machine, though there's a lot of evidence that it might just be natural in mammals, since your best bet for a man to spread his genes is with a sexually mature, young woman.
 
2005-05-23 09:27:29 PM
* God Fark teaches me every day that 99% of men are nasty, hypocritical violent animals. I'm just sayin. I can't believe I want to marry one someday.
 
2005-05-23 09:31:33 PM
Ummm, I'd ephebophiliac it?
 
2005-05-24 12:00:14 AM
Still about 5,000 hits short of making the top 25 links. Doesn't quite have what it takes to knock off Janet Jackson's nipple
 
2005-05-24 12:29:04 AM
This is an 11 year old CHILD! What if that were your daughter? Your commentary is reprehensible.

If she were my daughter? There wouldn't be any such pictures to begin with.

BTW, ever go to one of those kiddie beauty contests? Yeah, get back to me on this one.
 
2005-05-24 02:47:26 AM
"the thing about cup size is that it is realavant to the circumfrence around the chest. Cup size increases approximatly 1 to 1.5 inches for each bra size (32,34,36,etc.). So this girl might be a 26 or 28 F which really isn't big comapared to a 32 D."

...no no no. Are you a girl? It's hard to believe. The number in a bra size is measuring the strap around your back. The CUP SIZE is what measures the actual breast. Therefore, a 38A can be a very big boned woman and with a small chest a 32D can be a small woman with a large chest, the number is definately not the size.


"That is most definately no larger than a B, possibly even an A. Its all about presentation."

...siva, you are definately right. I don't guess men know how much the look can be affected by padding. A's can look like D's, it all depends on the bra/top/bikini.
 
2005-05-24 09:45:39 AM
"A's can look like D's, it all depends on the bra/top/bikini."

I guess we won't know until someone posts a naked picture of her.
 
2005-05-24 10:24:52 AM
I had C's at 11, not as "perfect" a body as this young girl, but I can certainly believe she's that young. I wasn't far off. Except when I was 11, I woulda never worn a bikini or anything low cut. I hated my boobs cause I was the only one with them!

/Loves lefty and righty now :-)
 
2005-05-24 11:32:20 AM
Lollipop165

How about a pic of lefty and righty so you can share the love.
 
2005-05-24 01:10:27 PM
She looks like a western b-c cup to me.
I approve of any thing she is doing - if you got it flaunt it.
Boo Hoo if she 11.
 
2005-05-29 06:21:07 PM
Wow, a thread about pedophilia and I missed it until now?

/not enough hours in the day
//*reaches for more caffeine*
 
2005-06-17 02:38:15 PM
hard h2o
Lollipop165

How about a pic of lefty and righty so you can share the love.


Seconded.
 
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