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2005-05-22 11:00:00 PM  
Neal Bush claims that 12 year old asian girls just come to his hotel room....totally unexpected!!!

So Neal Bush has monkey sex with those underaged asian prostitutes and his wife divorces him over it.

The more you know....

/Family values
//Hypocrisy is a GOP family value
 
2005-05-22 11:02:29 PM  
Hyernel -

Yes, because what one family member does, the entire family does without exception.
 
2005-05-22 11:02:52 PM  

The above photograph approved by Smeegle
 
2005-05-22 11:03:12 PM  
Mayhem_King

I'm not disagreeing with your textbook definition. I am questioning the relevance of presenting it as a response to my post. It does not follow.

Here, let me try another way; so what? If you have a point, please make it. I am fully aware of what a sociopath is. It's what the prosecutor kept calling me at my murder trial. How that relates to my post however, is something of a mystery to me. When I get out, we'll have to discuss this in greater detail over coffee.


You stated the following: If you are trying to tell me that people do not feel either "shame" or "guilt", then I've got some news for you... They do. A word is just a representation. Of course it's a construct. They feelings and emotions backing them however, are real.

You made a global statement about the nature of emotion. However, not all people feel shame or guilt. Also, the emotions shame and guilt are social constructs -- if people weren't taught that certain actions, thoughts, or emotions were to bring shame and guilt, then participating in those actions, thinking those thoughts, or having those emotions wouldn't bring about shame or guilt. Do you understand what I am saying? Let me sum it up for you in case you don't.

People feel shame and guilt because they were TAUGHT to feel shame and guilt. Shame and guilt do not exist naturally in human beings -- they must be taught through sociological processes.
 
2005-05-22 11:04:07 PM  
Hyernel:

I like to engage in some intellectual conversation after blowing a load of hot American Freedom onto her forehead.

Weeeeeeeee!!
-------

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That was just to funny!
 
2005-05-22 11:05:15 PM  
NokNoKCPU

The part that counts here is the brain. There's plenty of research that indicates the brain is still maturing up to 18-20 years.

http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2003/G/20035367.html

The truth is, though, that the pervs who'd like to see the AOC lowered to say, 14 years, don't really care about teenagers' brains or development or well-being. They've got a closet full of porn like japanese cartoons that show little schoolgirls getting it on with older guys. They're excited by it so they want to act like a 14 year-old's brain is the same as an 18 year-olds. It's not, and if you keep saying it is you need to go into therapy. For the sake of any teenagers who cross your path.



Animatronik

Child sexual abuse seems to me to start with the abuser trying to convince himself that a child can make decisions like an adult. that's the first step. IT JUST AIN'T SO. Children should be able to trust ALL adults to help them make the right decisions, instead of guiding them in the wrong direction.

Then why is eighteen the arbitrary age at which a person can suddenly become responsible for his/her own actions?

Does research support this age? Can you provide such research?

This is a very subjective rule -- that is, the age at which someone is capable of being independent is subjective. It's variable for each individual. I'm sorry to inform you, but some people are more intelligent than others and also more capable of acting in a manner that is called "mature" at a younger age than others.
 
2005-05-22 11:05:56 PM  


*sigh*

Much too far, much too fast...
 
2005-05-22 11:08:10 PM  
its ok... you can always get her... DVD?
WHHAAATTT?!?!??!?!?!
her dvd
or translation:
the google translation
 
2005-05-22 11:09:28 PM  
Not trying to thread jack but I am somewhat mesmorized by what I presume is Super44's website. I have just read the entire "story". Apparently there is some secret city in SE Asia where women's breasts grow to disproportionate sizes and will exchange sexual favors for new Western clothes. Quite a tale. Very Marco Polo meets Gulliver's Travels.

(NSFW) http://www.farangdingdong.com/main1_5.html

Once again, I have to wonder, WTF?
 
2005-05-22 11:12:07 PM  
The Saint of Killers [TotalFark]

Actually, I don't find the picture appealing either, because the whole package doesn't add up to an adult woman. A pair of breasts is natural, not necessarily a sexual thing, despite the cheesecake pose.

And I wouldn't accuse anyone on FARK of pederasty, though I find it disturbing that there are people who think there could be a grey area here as applied to 11- and 14 year-olds. Very disturbing. Kids see the world differently from adults, and the fact that many adults act like 14 year-olds is poor justification for lowering the age of consent. Irrational.


Animatronik

This post is from hdhale, a guy I usually disagree with, but here his remark is spot on:

Sorry I don't lust after this girl, nor do I think that the men who have made remarks here on Fark to that effect actually do either. Guys who lust after grossly underage females don't come on chat boards like this one and proclaim their fetish.
 
2005-05-22 11:14:19 PM  
If only we had these chicks during WW2.
 
2005-05-22 11:15:46 PM  
Animatronik

The truth is, though, that the pervs who'd like to see the AOC lowered to say, 14 years, don't really care about teenagers' brains or development or well-being. They've got a closet full of porn like japanese cartoons that show little schoolgirls getting it on with older guys. They're excited by it so they want to act like a 14 year-old's brain is the same as an 18 year-olds. It's not, and if you keep saying it is you need to go into therapy. For the sake of any teenagers who cross your path.

I'm not going to say whether I agree or not to what you're implying; however, if you make irrational generalizations, you won't garner any support at all.

That article doesn't support your position at all, by the way. It's about stress-testing in adolescents and young adults.
 
2005-05-22 11:19:23 PM  
People feel shame and guilt because they were TAUGHT to feel shame and guilt. Shame and guilt do not exist naturally in human beings -- they must be taught through sociological processes.

Right. Please get to your point. You do have a point, don't you? I took that class and many more just like it; about 4 years worth. While I appreciate the definitions, let's move this forward a little quicker. Thanks.
 
2005-05-22 11:20:53 PM  
NokNoKCPU

There is a lot of research to support what I'm saying. MRI's show dramatic changes in brain activity throughout adolescence. You're just dodging the point.

Besides that, the is no common-sense argument that says a 14 year-old thinks like an 18 year-old.
 
2005-05-22 11:22:10 PM  
Animatronik

As was previously mentioned, there was a memorable episode of Married With Children guest starring Milla Jovovich as a sexy foreign exchange student. There was sexual innuendo peppered throughout the whole episode. I remember having quite the fondness for this episode during my teenage years.

I recently learned that Milla was 13 when she did that show. Watch the episode, and I dare you not to find a grey area.

When that episode gets re-run, should I close my ears, shut my mouth and join you, smeegle and smallfry in hiding under the bed?
 
2005-05-22 11:22:39 PM  
Oh_Enough_Already

I have no problem with that one: children should not be tried as adults. Children should having sex with adults are being raped. Case closed.



THE AGE OF CONSENT FALLACY DISPELLED ONCE AND FOR ALL:

If a 14 year old girl has sex with an older man she is a CHILD who was "raped."

If the same 14 year old girl kills 12 people with an Uzi she was an ADULT and will be punished t the fullest extent of the law.

Somebody care to explain that one to me?
 
2005-05-22 11:24:55 PM  
Mayhem_King

Right. Please get to your point. You do have a point, don't you? I took that class and many more just like it; about 4 years worth. While I appreciate the definitions, let's move this forward a little quicker. Thanks.

The point is that you were thoroughly trounced.
Now I shall be moving on, as I have wasted enough of my time as it is.
 
2005-05-22 11:25:51 PM  
I meant to saying:

Children should not be tried as adults, but adults should be tried for statutory rape.

And Mary Kay is now free to marry her former student. Maybe he's an example of an adult who nevered matured in his thinking about sex. Gee, I wonder WHY??
 
2005-05-22 11:27:09 PM  
If there's grass on the infield ... PLAY BALL!
 
2005-05-22 11:30:41 PM  
The Saint of Killers [TotalFark]

The fact that Milla Jovovich could be sexy at 13 doesn't make you, me, or anyone else a perv for being turned on by it. Acting on it through porno or worse is what makes you a perv.

Again, it's not about sexual maturity, we all know it happens by 11-15 depending on ehtnicity, etc. It's about the brain. It's about emotions and socialization as well. there are plenty of good reasons not to let teeenagers act like adults. There are plenty of well-documented reasons to make 16 the driving age (17 or 18 may be better, acoording to recent studies).
 
2005-05-22 11:31:13 PM  
From a developmental standpoint there is no such thing as a 'typical' person of any specific age. They are all created based on models or averages.

Therefore, due to environment and genetics there could indeed be two people who function on the same 'maturity' level at age 14 and age 18.

I don't think this is a good reason to toss out an age of consent, but I do believe it should be taken into account when forming legislation as to exceptions (such as two minors etc).
 
2005-05-22 11:31:47 PM  
But is she an 11-year-old virgin, who's really only 28, and really not a virgin?

/buys eggs for seven cents, then sells them at a profit for three cents.
 
2005-05-22 11:36:07 PM  
The point is that you were thoroughly trounced.
Now I shall be moving on, as I have wasted enough of my time as it is.


Thoroughly trounced on what? My initial comments were directed at an individual. In turn, you started posting irrelevant definitions with no explanation as to the point you were trying to make. You still haven't made a point. If you have one, please make it.

If you are posting on Fark, your time isn't all that valuable, is it? So, your point please. What exactly is it?

Oh, I see. You are being pressured to produce a point and now it is time to declare victory, the value of your time, and how you must move on. Right. The "shall" part was especially touching. Added a sense of authority to your dodge. Almost made it seem as though you are too sophisticated to continue this argument with someone as dull witted as myself. Obviously, I am intellectually and educationally too inferior for you to actually share your friggin' point with. No doubt, because you have better things to do; you'll move on now.
 
2005-05-22 11:39:27 PM  
Acting on it through porno or worse is what makes you a perv.

But are these pictures pornographic? Those who claim they are must not have seen them, because all I see is a clothed girl posing for a camera.
 
2005-05-22 11:40:58 PM  
Bravo Occam, bravo.

/8 year olds, dude.
 
2005-05-22 11:47:46 PM  
Three weeks later I find out she was 16 and not 22.

I raped her???


No, you statutory-raped her! And you'd be in good company: Charlie Chaplin, Babe Ruth, Jerry Seinfeld, and most of the Roman Emperors.
 
2005-05-22 11:50:08 PM  
Aias

For the benefit of the other Farkers wanting proof, there has been an explosion of articles that indicate major changes up to about age 18 or 19 in many brains examined using new methods. Again even if SEXUAL maturation may vary, I'd place a big bet that cognitive maturation is still going on.

You may find a stunted 18 year-old that is like a 14 year-old, but I would bet a lot of money that you rarely find a 14 year-old with a brain like an 18 year-olds. That's enough to convince me to call them children. I guess if you want to call them adults you can always find a reason.

1: Trends Cogn Sci. 2005 Feb;9(2):60-8. Related Articles, Links

Mapping brain maturation and cognitive development during adolescence.

Paus T.

Brain and Body Centre, University of Nottingham, Nottingham, UK. t­om­as*pa­u­s­[nospam-﹫-backwards]ma­h­gnitt­o­n­*ac*uk

Non-invasive mapping of brain structure and function with magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) has opened up unprecedented opportunities for studying the neural substrates underlying cognitive development. There is an emerging consensus of a continuous increase throughout adolescence in the volume of white matter, both global and local. There is less agreement on the meaning of asynchronous age-related decreases in the volume of grey matter in different cortical regions; these might equally represent loss ("pruning") or gain (intra-cortical myelination) of tissue. Functional MRI studies have so far focused mostly on executive functions, such as working memory and behavioural inhibition, with very few addressing questions regarding the maturation of social cognition. Future directions for research in this area are discussed in the context of processing biological motion and matching perceptions and actions.



From a developmental standpoint there is no such thing as a 'typical' person of any specific age. They are all created based on models or averages.

Therefore, due to environment and genetics there could indeed be two people who function on the same 'maturity' level at age 14 and age 18.
 
daz
2005-05-22 11:51:20 PM  
Oh_Enough_Already
I raped her???

Yes because, even at 16, she doesn't have enough life experience to understand the full consequences of that action and appreciate sex as something more than two morons humping to get off.

were their husbands raping them???

Just because it was "legal" doesn't mean it's right or good. It was exploiting young girls. Those girls never really had a chance at their own life. They were thrown right into marriage and never were themselves. They never had a chance to be their own person. Is that right?

No one is helped by laws that try to enforce edicts that fly in the face and are in contradiction to biology and evolution.

No one is helped by explointing young women and ruining their whole life because of your warped sense of morality and your sexual perversions.
 
2005-05-22 11:58:05 PM  
Dude, how was O_E_A_ explointing them?
 
2005-05-22 11:58:28 PM  
The Saint of Killers [TotalFark]

When i say porno, I mean sexually explicit, not a photo of a girl in a bikini. Again, I wouldn't feel bad for being turned on by the photo, even though I'm not.

The ambiguity you might feel in looking at a sexually precocious child does not change the fact that she is a child and incapable of responding to you as an adult. Having large breasts does not make her an adult. It also doesn't mean that she magically becomes a candidate for a lowered age of consent.




But are these pictures pornographic? Those who claim they are must not have seen them, because all I see is a clothed girl posing for a camera.
 
2005-05-22 11:58:36 PM  
Me: If you are trying to tell me that people do not feel either "shame" or "guilt", then I've got some news for you... They do. A word is just a representation. Of course it's a construct. They feelings and emotions backing them however, are real.

You: You made a global statement about the nature of emotion. However, not all people feel shame or guilt. Also, the emotions shame and guilt are social constructs -- if people weren't taught that certain actions, thoughts, or emotions were to bring shame and guilt, then participating in those actions, thinking those thoughts, or having those emotions wouldn't bring about shame or guilt. Do you understand what I am saying? Let me sum it up for you in case you don't.

People feel shame and guilt because they were TAUGHT to feel shame and guilt. Shame and guilt do not exist naturally in human beings -- they must be taught through sociological processes.


I didn't make a global statement. I made a statement about a specific person.

2005-05-22 07:27:45 PM NokNoKCPU

Mayhem_King

My guess is that your guilt is what caused you to post in outrage. Your own guilt is why you are posting that the rest of us should feel shame. The link goes to a text article. The picture of the girl was posted in this thread. For some reason, in your mind, the picture became "pornographic" and "sick". The only reason for you to post that we should feel shamed is because you are feeling shame.

"Shame" and "guilt" are sociological constructs. Technically speaking, they don't exist. Human beings created those concepts.

Thus, the emotion called "shame" or "guilt" comes from the culture taught by the society in which an individual lives. An action is taken, and the individual is taught that the appropriate response to that action or to feelings associated with that action are "shame" and "guilt."


You were trying to explain to me that shame and guilt do not exist. You then tried to deploy an example of a personality disorder but didn't bother to connect the dots and to explain how a personality disorder was relevant to my comments about smallfry, someone who in my opinion is projecting personal issues onto the rest of us. Scary. Personal. Issues. While I appreciate you explaining to me the sociological origin of such feelings, I still have no idea what point you were or are trying to make. Whether or not feelings of guilt and shame are nature or nurture are irrelevant to my post to smallfry.

So in conclusion, if you are arguing with me, I;'m not sure what your argument is. So far, I agree with everything you posted. It's common knowledge. it would be hard to disagree with the basics of psychology and sociology. Not sure how what you posted applies to my post directed at smallfry who was as obvious in her projecting as you were with the level of your education.

Hopefully, she'll get the help she needs and hopefully you'll graduate from college.

BTW, you do know that in your post, you acknowledged that feelings of fear and guilt do exist, right? You kind of agreed with me.

This is the part where I get to declare, I shall waste no more of my precious time and will dispatch from this thread posthaste!
 
2005-05-23 12:06:12 AM  
This is the only post I've seen where everyone wants pics and nobody will say I hit it.
 
2005-05-23 12:06:32 AM  
I raped her???

You had sex with someone who was not capable of giving legal consent. Not the same as rape. More similar to having sex with a sheep. You sick, sick, bastard.

BTW, I know you made that story up. Hot 16-year olds do not walk up to balding 30-year olds at a hotel pool and give them great sex and disappear. At least not without getting paid.

What you are guilty of is having a fantasy.
 
2005-05-23 12:08:48 AM  
I think that you're making a rather typical mistake of attempting to enforce your country's warped morality on another nation. Until the USA re-invades Japan, I dont think you're going to be able to be in any position to judge what they do. At least not in any way that it will make one single bit of difference. For all you frantically screaming "pedophile" You'd best seek some therapy, you're doing whats commonly called projection. The fact is that if you did not have a lable on the girl's photo stating that she was 11, most of you wouldn't have the slightest idea how old she is and would be happily helping your god kill kittens over her and her cute boobies.

One man's morals are another man's ethnic joke.
 
2005-05-23 12:09:16 AM  
She is not an F Cup. She may or not be 12 as the page says. But I think the whole perv factor is pretty clear in the page title alone much less the photos.

"A cute 12-year-old gal who has great potential...." EEEWWWW.

Hang em all.
 
2005-05-23 12:16:10 AM  
Memoryalpha


Blah-blah-blah-blah.

In this case projection applies as follows: believing that you are looking at a picture of a child with large breasts (and you are right, that may not be the case here), you project your desire that she be mature enough onto her so that you BELIEVE she is as mature as an adult even though that is DECIDELY, unequivocally, not the case for a 12-year old.

I knew a guy with issues and fantasies about Japanese schoolgirls and yes, he did move to Japan. In some places, they go wild over the gaijin (remember the olympic skier?) Maybe you should move there, too, if you think it's an issue of warped morality, cause I don't.



I think that you're making a rather typical mistake of attempting to enforce your country's warped morality on another nation. Until the USA re-invades Japan, I dont think you're going to be able to be in any position to judge what they do. At least not in any way that it will make one single bit of difference. For all you frantically screaming "pedophile" You'd best seek some therapy, you're doing whats commonly called projection. The fact is that if you did not have a lable on the girl's photo stating that she was 11, most of you wouldn't have the slightest idea how old she is and would be happily helping your god kill kittens over her and her cute boobies.

One man's morals are another man's ethnic joke.
 
2005-05-23 12:23:36 AM  
This is gross. I can't believe this got GLed.

It's probably not kiddie porn [it's not true porn], but it's probably wrong in some way.

This country may be a little prude on sex, but an 11 or 12 year old can't be mentally mature enough to be informed in this decision.
 
2005-05-23 12:28:18 AM  
What I want to know is where are her parents in all this?

Because, you know, I bet her mom is totally hot.
 
2005-05-23 12:34:05 AM  
I feel bad for the poor girl. She'll have back issues later.
 
2005-05-23 12:52:45 AM  
This link is on pace to crack the top 25. That's kind of crazy
 
2005-05-23 12:55:56 AM  
bah, this thread needs more lil amber:



to whoever said they'd let their 11-year-old daughter pose sexually in a bikini as long as the bikini stayed on .. .please sterilize yourself so that the rest of us don't have to pay for your future daughter's 11 kids with 11 different baby daddies.
 
2005-05-23 12:57:24 AM  
i'd hit it...

/if I was closer to her age...
//starts countdown clock to age of legal consent
 
2005-05-23 01:02:02 AM  
I'd hit it.
 
2005-05-23 01:06:39 AM  
Nice tits!!!
 
2005-05-23 01:07:09 AM  
*** Animatronik

*** Blah-blah-blah-blah.

You should have stopped with the above, the rest merely supported my argument, especially the personal attack you attempted to passively deliver. Now quit being a troll and go back to doing whatever it is you do when you aren't trying to fight a battle of wits while unarmed.
 
2005-05-23 01:08:03 AM  
So sometimes men do want to fark children, esp. of they're attractive. Its not like you're Humbert Humbert or a puritan, black or white. There are shades of nasty loser filthy heinous pervert and we hang out on Fark Forums together. This should not be greenlighted. But look at its draw. This is who we are.
 
2005-05-23 01:10:28 AM  
No officer i swear she said she was 18. just look at those f cups, can u deny the power of the boobies?
 
2005-05-23 01:19:35 AM  
just curious as something that has always bugged me about statutory rape laws. you can be tried for statutory rape if you have sex with a girl who is 17 years and 11 months... but at 18 years on their birthday, it is perfectly legal? this person has matured so much in 1 month that they are now able to choose who they have sex with?
 
2005-05-23 01:20:46 AM  
Looks like Paris's search for a new sidekick is over.
 
2005-05-23 01:45:14 AM  
Hadith, Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64~ Mohammed farked a nine year old. Yes, that Mohammed.
Nine.
This thread is now Kinsey approved. (Table 34, google it)
Two darlings of the left.
I blame the current problems we are facing on the Democrats.
/not gonna stop, gonna troll til I drop
 
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