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(ABC)   From 1900 to 1970, over 65,000 men and women were secretly sterilized as part of a government eugenics program   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 361
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2005-05-15 05:02:20 PM
While I disagree with the needless use of the Newsflash, that's a pretty interesting story.
 
2005-05-15 05:05:00 PM
God Bless Ameri... er, wait. No.
 
2005-05-15 05:06:17 PM
Just Ignorant:

While I disagree with the needless use of the Newsflash, that's a pretty interesting story.

agreed.
 
2005-05-15 05:08:01 PM
Cool. Why did they stop? I can think of 62,028,772 Americans that shouldn't procreate.

/flamebait
 
2005-05-15 05:08:38 PM
I'd like to know how many were done without the patient's knowledge. I'm betting a very small percentage and it's a case of the media blowing something out of proportion.

That being said, I can't believe they did any without telling them.
 
2005-05-15 05:09:04 PM
Just Ignorant:

While I disagree with the needless use of the Newsflash, that's a pretty interesting story.

No it's not a newsflash but it is a good story.

Holy Jeebus these stories just sicken me. Atleast it's not Texas mentioned in the article this time.
 
2005-05-15 05:09:05 PM
AbsolutTBomb:

Cool. Why did they stop? I can think of 62,028,772 Americans that shouldn't procreate

Agreed.



/*throws match, runs*
 
2005-05-15 05:10:16 PM
Sue time.
 
2005-05-15 05:10:39 PM
Well, they didn't get me.

The proof is in the child support payments.
 
2005-05-15 05:11:11 PM
How is 30-year-old news NewsFlash worthy?.
 
2005-05-15 05:11:44 PM
G_Fish: Sue time.

Already started. This was on TV a week or so ago. But, I didn't see a girl named Sue, not sure who you are talking about.
 
2005-05-15 05:12:06 PM
Good use of the Newsflash.....I saw this woman on Montel back in October, on vacation while my wife was drying her hair.
 
2005-05-15 05:12:23 PM
Well that's certainly a new way to look at it. You get raped at 14 and that makes you too irresponsible to have kids.
 
2005-05-15 05:12:31 PM
damitjim: That being said, I can't believe they did any without telling them.

Yeah they would never do anything like that to people without there knowledge.

The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment (pops)
 
2005-05-15 05:14:59 PM
2005-05-15 05:12:23 PM mrbah
Well that's certainly a new way to look at it. You get raped at 14 and that makes you too irresponsible to have kids.


She was deemed mentally feeble....as in, on the lower end of the IQ scale.
 
2005-05-15 05:15:27 PM
vliam: there

their even

dammit I hate when people use there when they mean their. So, of course I used there up there not their.
 
2005-05-15 05:15:28 PM
damitjim:

I'd like to know how many were done without the patient's knowledge. I'm betting a very small percentage and it's a case of the media blowing something out of proportion.

Why would you automatically assume this? I know historically it has been done with Native American women, amongst other populations.

Oh, I forgot... lie-brul media.
 
2005-05-15 05:15:57 PM
AbsolutTBomb: I can think of 62,028,772 Americans that shouldn't procreate.

that's weird

Cause not that many people voted for Kerry...
 
2005-05-15 05:18:35 PM
vliam: Yeah they would never do anything like that to people without there knowledge.

I went to medical school in Alabama, and boy, we about had to take a full class on the Tuskegee experiment. I'm not convinced some of my classmates could see what was wrong with it.
 
2005-05-15 05:20:29 PM
2005-05-15 05:08:01 PM AbsolutTBomb [TotalFark]

Cool. Why did they stop? I can think of 62,028,772 Americans that shouldn't procreate.

/flamebait


You're being particularly "sporty" today bud...:)
 
2005-05-15 05:21:02 PM
Even though the practice ended more than 30 years ago, some say the time has come to make amends. North Carolina was one of the first states out of 33 that once practiced sterilization to offer an apology. State Rep. Larry Womble is crafting a bill to provide financial reparations.

Some wonder where the state will get the money. "They say, 'Well, we can't afford it,' " said Womble, a Democrat. "Well, we cannot not afford it."



well - you could always just sue the hell of out Planned Parenthood. Their founder was pretty into the whole forced sterilzation thing as I recall.
 
2005-05-15 05:21:22 PM
bulldg4life

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2005-05-15 05:22:41 PM
GaryPDX,

Yeah I went off on some attention whore earlier.
 
2005-05-15 05:22:42 PM
:)
 
2005-05-15 05:24:19 PM
Just Ignorant:

I went to medical school in Alabama, and boy, we about had to take a full class on the Tuskegee experiment. I'm not convinced some of my classmates could see what was wrong with it.

I sure they wouldn't have thought any different in Texas. If ignorance is bliss, there are a lot of very happy folks living in the South.
 
2005-05-15 05:24:32 PM
I'm willing to hook up with a farkette so we can test each other to see if they did this to us.
 
2005-05-15 05:24:40 PM
disgruntella:

Why would you automatically assume this? I know historically it has been done with Native American women, amongst other populations.

Oh, I forgot... lie-brul media.


No, because of the disclaimer in the article.

"From the early 1900s to the 1970s, some 65,000 men and women were sterilized in this country, many without their knowledge, as part of a government eugenics program to keep so-called undesirables from reproducing."
 
2005-05-15 05:30:40 PM
Well, the article says "many without their knowledge"; you guess "small percentage."

DAMMIT, damitjim, WHY DO YOU HATE (the) AMERICAn broacasting company?

Anyway, since I don't know the real answer any more than you do, I'll fold.
 
2005-05-15 05:31:22 PM
I meant to put sarcasm tags in that second sentence. Dammit Janet.
 
2005-05-15 05:32:48 PM
Well sterilization is better than having a "Joe Kennedy" pulled on you.
 
2005-05-15 05:38:06 PM
2005-05-15 05:22:41 PM AbsolutTBomb [TotalFark]

GaryPDX,

Yeah I went off on some attention whore earlier.


Yea, I did that too. Twelve years ago.
 
2005-05-15 05:38:40 PM
disgruntella:

Well, the article says "many without their knowledge"; you guess "small percentage."

I don't hate them, my only point as devil's advocate... "many" means 4 or more. It would by typical of modern day media to hype 8 people out of 60,000.
 
2005-05-15 05:42:47 PM
I blame LBJ.

In the interest of sparking a lively discussion, why not do this to convicted felons? If any group is at risk of being a bad (or nonexistent) parent, it would be them.

/these arguments are fun.
 
2005-05-15 05:50:05 PM
Yea, I did that too. Twelve years ago.

What the hell does that mean?
 
2005-05-15 05:52:16 PM
Most people do not get to see daytime tv (your Springer and what not).

If they did, a lot more people would be in favor of sterilizing people.
 
2005-05-15 07:05:40 PM
A lady I knew grew up on an Ogalala Sioux reservation. As was current at the time (early 60's), women were expected to marry right out of high school. She never did find anyone that she wanted to marry. Her friends were having "one" baby and that was all. The only hospital for miles was a Federal government hospital.

It didn't take long to figure out about the sterilizations occuring with no one's consent or knowledge. The man that was locally responsible, when asked why, said, "Because they breed like rats anyway."

She moved out of state and had nine children. As half Indians, everyone of them has a full ride through any University they want, Harvard (if they can get in): tuition, living expenses and books - not all tribes have such good deals. I believe the benefits are less for their own children if they don't maintain the Indian blood.
 
2005-05-15 08:17:28 PM
You just can't do something like that to people and then think that there is a way to make it up to them. They were able to successfully reproduce since the beginning of life, maybe 600,000,000 years ago. Now their linage is finished.
 
2005-05-15 09:24:53 PM
I don't know what you guys are talking about; we were tutored, that was all.
 
2005-05-15 11:42:40 PM
Folks: by "the state" they mean North Carolina specifically. This is not being presented as a US Government program or there would be a whole lot more than that who were sterilized.

Plus, the Gov't can't even keep a blowjob secret, do you think this would be secret for that long?
 
2005-05-16 12:12:37 AM
If that doesn't deserve the scary tag, I don't know what does.
 
2005-05-16 12:12:51 AM
... Why did they stop in 1970?!?!?!?! Who squealed?!?!?

/reproduction is not a right
 
2005-05-16 12:14:08 AM
/believes in breeding license.
 
2005-05-16 12:15:14 AM
reproduction is not a right

please tell me this is just flame bait
 
2005-05-16 12:15:51 AM
that's ok. overpopulation of these people has become a real probl...ummm...oops.
 
2005-05-16 12:16:04 AM
This is not happening anymore. *cough* Today we just ban gays from donating sperm.
 
2005-05-16 12:16:08 AM
Needs to happen a little more often
 
2005-05-16 12:16:22 AM
Holy Christ, people! When are you going to learn...the government is not your friend! Those people suck!

Death to the Internet!
 
2005-05-16 12:16:34 AM
Two bad my parents weren't among them.
 
2005-05-16 12:18:13 AM
Makes one proud to be an American.

/smell the power
 
2005-05-16 12:19:38 AM
Great, but that doesn't answer the question: Why did they stop? The entire state of Florida needs to be sterilized...along with approx 50 million people who voted for Bush.
 
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