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(Some Guy)   New rules for Australian pro rugby allow you to intentially punch opponent in groin, say you're sorry, go back and do it again   (badjocks.com%23punchtogroin) divider line 86
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2005-05-12 12:12:05 PM  
 
2005-05-12 12:13:16 PM  
scootah

Australian Rules is a football variant simmilar to Gaelic football.

not unless they've radically changed things since I left 10 years ago. GAA uses a round ball on a rectangular field. There are a set of goal posts at each end of the field. Scoring can consist of a goal (3 points) by placing the ball in the net or a point (1 point, go figure!) by kicking the ball between the uprights. It is nowhere near as physical as Aussie Rules.

Simularities? Players can pick the ball up and must solo it (basically drop the ball and kick it back into your hands) if they run over a certain distance. Oh, and the players wear shorts too.

http://www.gaa.ie/ for more info.

/just sayin
 
GCD
2005-05-12 12:15:27 PM  
Ahh, yes...rugby - THE sport to play in high school.

I spent 3 years on the field during high school and I tore the ligaments in my left ankle, I had my nose shattered, my orbital chipped, concussions and various bumps, scrapes, cuts, bruises.

I have a picture of a bruise on my back in the shape of someone's rugby cleat.

I'm thinking about joining a summer league because I had so much fun when I was playing.
 
2005-05-12 12:18:27 PM  
I'm confused. I'm American, I admit it.

There are rules against wearing a cup? Every T-ball kid starts wearing one at age 7; is it an AFL rule that the junk must be vulnerable?
 
2005-05-12 12:18:54 PM  
AFL is the second best spectator sport ever invented, just behind Drunken Blindfolded Twister.
 
2005-05-12 12:25:26 PM  
 
GCD
2005-05-12 12:27:12 PM  
openglfan,

The only protective equipment you wear is a mouthguard.

In rugby, the only people who wear the "helmets" are the second row guys and that's so they don't lose their ears when in the scrum.
 
2005-05-12 12:46:05 PM  
ScottMpls
Ppptt. Hockey players have been doing this for years ... but do not need to apologize.
----------------------------------------------
Being Canadian I have watched alot of hockey in my lifetime (maybe not that much in the last year) but I can't recall seeing an incidents of hockey players punching each other in the nuts......in the head yes but not the nutsack?
 
2005-05-12 12:46:50 PM  
thanks for all the pics....they are farking hilarious!
 
2005-05-12 01:05:14 PM  
little or no protection is for stupid men, not real men

american football is retarded because of the speed (or lack of), not the padding.

i have a friend who drives in demolition derbies. he's one of the few guys that wears a neckbrace in addition to the required helmet. it amazes me how stupid msot people can be when it comes to wanting to seem tough.
 
2005-05-12 01:32:08 PM  
There is an explantion of AFL and rugby in my profile. Damn, thats twice today I've cited my own profile...
 
2005-05-12 01:34:01 PM  
 
2005-05-12 01:34:11 PM  
this will be WAY better when they start allowing female players. let the games begin!
 
2005-05-12 01:34:31 PM  
the head gear protection (at least in Rugby Union) has to be soft and no thicker than 1cm. having played second row and flanker, I can assure you it does very, very little in the way of protection.
 
2005-05-12 02:20:11 PM  
I think that's the first time I've actually laughed out loud at a fark article in a while. That picture is awesome.

As I write this, though, I feel like Homer laughing at "Man getting hit in the groin by football" in the middle of a silent auditorium of scowls.

/Oh God, my groin!
 
2005-05-12 02:21:30 PM  
GCD:

In rugby, the only people who wear the "helmets" are the second row guys and that's so they don't lose their ears when in the scrum.

usually the only guys who wear them are the second row guys, but I've seen just about anyone wear them, they really don't provide any protection other than like you said, keeps the ears from getting pulled off. Now adays you can also get "shoulder pads" which are really just a placebo, they have to be soft foam and very thin. You can wear any sort of brace so long as it's not plastic or metal (it has to be soft). I've hear you're allowed to wear soccer shin guards also, but the only people I've seen do that are girls.
 
2005-05-12 02:24:44 PM  
Sorry, ukexpat, but any country that embraces a sport that has afternoon tea breaks doesn't have the right to complain about the manliness of US Sports.

But on the AFL front, I don't know if anyone saw the Brisbane/Essenden game a few weeks ago, but it was priceless when the guy kept on getting to move closer for his free kick because the dude from the other team kept on punching the guy who was taunting him. I love footy. (and soccer, rugby, American football, and just about everything else.)
 
2005-05-12 02:25:23 PM  
ukexpat:

openglfan: Unlike US sports, AFL and rugby are games for real men (George Bush being the provberbial exception that proves the rule), so little or no protection is worn.

the difference between rugby and american football (in terms of tackling) is that in rugby there are many contact and dangerous play rules, while there are very little in american football. in american football people fly accross the field and throw themselves at people's heads without even trying to wrap up, in rugby you have to wrap up.
In rugby there are probably as many if not more "injuries" but in american football there are more broken bones and higher end injuries because of the hard pads.
 
GCD
2005-05-12 02:28:41 PM  
Shin guards in rugby?!? Pfft. Not around here they'd never allow that.

Watching the women's rugby was FAR more entertaining than watching men's rugby. The women are absolutely VICIOUS on the field (at least around these parts). It was just insane to watch them. The tackles made by the hair were always the best. Illegal - most likely, but then again, it's only illegal if you get caught.
 
2005-05-12 02:37:24 PM  
Xenomech's picture reminded me of Bibleman.

 
2005-05-12 02:37:42 PM  
Good call, joman!
 
2005-05-12 03:02:33 PM  
louiedog Very few rugby players want to "seem tough". It does you very little good when the fit hits the shan. Toughness is a one or the other proposition, and "seeming" rarely survives contact with the enemy.

AFL players often get suspended for wrestling, and severly punished for actual violence, which almost never happens. Most of the contact is of the "handbags at 10 paces" variety.

This rule is just an excuse for them to give each other hand jobs.

/ooh, look at me, acting all hard on the internets. Cower before my innapropriate aggressiveness and low level homophobia, lest I type something to hurt your feelings.
//go the 'Tahs.
 
2005-05-12 03:50:13 PM  
Diablo Trout: "handbags at 10 paces"

Hah! I use that expression refereeing Rugby here in the US. If I see something that is handbags at 10 paces, I let it go with a penalty and a warning. I don't want it to escalate, but I don't want to ruin a player's or a team's chances on the pitch.

Sadly, the local refs don't seem to know the difference between handbags and real violence. They are far less lenient, and tend to send people off even for minor scuffles. Sad, really.
 
2005-05-12 04:19:56 PM  
In rugby, the only people who wear the "helmets" are the second row guys and that's so they don't lose their ears when in the scrum.

usually the only guys who wear them are the second row guys, but I've seen just about anyone wear them, they really don't provide any protection other than like you said, keeps the ears from getting pulled off. Now adays you can also get "shoulder pads" which are really just a placebo, they have to be soft foam and very thin. You can wear any sort of brace so long as it's not plastic or metal (it has to be soft). I've hear you're allowed to wear soccer shin guards also, but the only people I've seen do that are girls.


I used electrical tape around the ears, Vaseline on my brow, and wore shinguards when I played - Former Hooker...broke my leg playing soccer while not wearing shin guards (I learned my lesson).
 
GCD
2005-05-12 04:29:26 PM  
The Onanist - Former Hooker.

I still get a chuckle out of that position. It has to be the most poorly named position of any sport.

/prop

Prop: Short but stout, these strapping men support the hooker, but no money ever changes hands and the act is never specifically named.
 
2005-05-12 04:57:57 PM  
snowburnt
in american football people fly accross the field and throw themselves at people's heads without even trying to wrap up, in rugby you have to wrap up.

Gotta ask here, what does it mean to 'wrap up'?
 
2005-05-12 05:56:40 PM  
mackdad, it means to wrap your arms around an opponent's legs or body (but not the neck!). In rugby you're not allowed to "projectile tackle" by just hurling your body at them. Nor are you allowed to tackle someone by wrapping your arms around their neck.
 
2005-05-12 06:09:37 PM  
mackdad: Gotta ask here, what does it mean to 'wrap up'?

means grab the person to pull them to the ground as opposed to just hit them to knock them over...

interestingly, regarding padding in rugby union, there have been studies done (can't find one at the moment) that have found that injuries actually increase as padding is added as people hit harder as it's less painful for them to do so...usually it takes a lot of skill to hit someone hard and drag them to the ground without being hurt, but padding and helmets add new angles and velocities that are just dnagerous
i think that the authorities have regulated shoulder padding now...can anyone confirm?

as far as this pic goes, the guy on the ground punched twice, it was on the news, once in the general vicinity of the groin and once square in the nuts
i think this pic is of the first punch
 
2005-05-12 06:53:40 PM  
For someone just getting into rugby, is there one league that's bigger than others in UK/Europe? Equivalent to MLB or NFL in the colonies?
 
2005-05-12 07:02:11 PM  
Thanks guys!
 
2005-05-12 08:24:43 PM  
so articles on Aussie Rules will be greenlit if they come from a US source?
 
2005-05-12 10:52:27 PM  
AFL is about as close to Rugby as Ice Hockey is to American Football haha
 
2005-05-12 11:35:50 PM  
for info on aussie rules, have a look at nosedog's guide to top aussies"

hilarious

but the formatting on the page is shiate so here it is:

"AFL is a top Aussie. It was invented in 1858 by Victorians who wanted
something to do in winter when there was no cricket on the telly. AFL became
so popular in Victoria that it is now a criminal offence not to support your
local footy team. Offenders are charged with treason and exiled to Tasmania.
Victorians are all complete sports nuts, and the sign on the border says
"Victoria - Piss off nerds this is Sportland". Attendance figures for a
typical AFL game are usually about three hundred million, and about double
that in finals games. AFL is played on an oval shaped ground with 4 posts at
either end. The players don't wear pads or helmets because only Americans do that, and they're all pussies. Players can score a goal by kicking the ball
between the two inner posts, and a behind is kicked if the player misses,
usually by a coach wearing steelcaps. A mark is when a player catches a
kicked ball on the full, named after a kid called Mark who was kicked around
before the ball was invented. Near each set of goals are little men in white
with funny hats, whose job is to provide a target for angry fans with beercans.
AFL is now being introduced to other countries so that Australia can be world
champions in one more sport. AFL is a top Aussie."
 
2005-05-13 03:00:28 AM  
That's not Rugby you knucklehead. That's
Australian Rules.

For Rugby, Google "squirrel grip".

You reach up their shorts, grab their scrotum
and twist.

They punch you, and you get the penalty kick.

GridIron is for pussies.

Frrrp
 
2005-05-13 10:12:05 AM  
Ace Rockola:

For someone just getting into rugby, is there one league that's bigger than others in UK/Europe? Equivalent to MLB or NFL in the colonies?

There's 2 different styles, rugby union and rugby league, rugby union has 15 players and continuous play, while rugby league has 13 players and 6 "plays" before they have to punt.

Rugby Union, is what they play in the world cup. (I just started it also, and don't know tooo much about league)
 
2005-05-13 02:51:02 PM  
this is what thewholeshowecw was talking about

the blonde guy got the free kick because as soon as anyone takes a swing, he drops to the ground. one of the greatest actors in sports today.

this is what afl is really about

conveiniently the same player a week later
 
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