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(MSNBC)   Eighty percent of people surveyed would have the WTC twin towers rebuilt rather than a "decapitated pyramid with a chicken coop on top"   ( msnbc.msn.com) divider line
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2005-04-21 11:33:37 AM  
Well, when you put it that way...

Rebuild them and see how many tennants you get above the 50th floor. 80% of people just don't farking think before spewing their worthless opinions, this one included.
 
2005-04-21 11:36:50 AM  
I like the new design.

The Two Towers were boxy and ugly. Sort of like giant K-Cars.
 
2005-04-21 11:37:36 AM  
Personally, I hate the Freedom Tower design.
Why would you build a structure to show the terrorists that we're not afraid and that you can't keep us down, and yet build it so that we can't go above the 70th floor?

Stupid.
 
2005-04-21 11:41:00 AM  
No one is building to show terrorists anything. They're trying to run businesses.
 
2005-04-21 11:43:28 AM  
mediaho: They're trying to run businesses.

That's true. However, the majority of people want the new structures to be iconic, a representation of how well we've healed since 9/11. Personally, I don't think the FT says that at all.
 
2005-04-21 11:43:52 AM  
I want to see a space elevator built on the site. That would be pretty cool.
 
2005-04-21 11:45:31 AM  
The model is hideous. The actual building will hopefully look different from the concept. Who wants to go up their and maintain all the non-functional steel skeleton crap?
 
2005-04-21 11:46:15 AM  
Build 'em like the originals only bigger.
 
2005-04-21 11:47:30 AM  
c_stacer: the majority of people want

I understand. See my previous comment.

Seriously, I do understand the heartfelt sentiment. But the way to get back for this attack is to re-build economically, not with icons and symbols (we have enough of those magnets on our vehicles). Another giant "target" isn't going to be great for leasing out office space.
 
2005-04-21 11:49:14 AM  
I have always thought they should build a very, very tall building. With a SAM battery on the top.
 
2005-04-21 11:51:03 AM  
Wait, "Freedom" Tower? Is that like "Freedom" fries and I can call it the French Tower?
 
2005-04-21 11:55:03 AM  
mediaho: Rebuild them and see how many tennants you get above the 50th floor.

Guess you never saw the New Yorkers during the whole design comepetition with buttons that said "Yes, I would work on the 100th floor."


lunchinlewis: Who wants to go up their and maintain all the non-functional steel skeleton crap?

Non-Functional?? There are going to be wind turbines in there that will generate 50% of the building's electricity.
 
2005-04-21 11:55:44 AM  
Rich wrote, My friends father was an FDNY Lieutenant (Lt. Vincent G. Halloran) who died when the buildings collapsed. He has told me that his father would want the towers rebuilt; that not rebuilding them is a defeat.

How can someone speak for someone else that's dead? If he died on 9/11, when would this conversation ever have taken place?
 
2005-04-21 12:00:19 PM  
TheChaz: Guess you never saw the New Yorkers during the whole design comepetition with buttons that said "Yes, I would work on the 100th floor."

Yes, I saw the buttons. Surprisingly, the buttons failed to convince me.

Personally, I would like to see that 5-building design that looked like a middle finger. But I'm not a CEO, CFO or insurance agent who has to deal with the realities.
 
2005-04-21 12:06:34 PM  
It just seems really stupid to me that people would want to put them back the way they were.

What, are we supposed to pretend 9/11 never happened?

How friggin' creepy would it be working in a replica?
 
2005-04-21 12:18:51 PM  
On the one hand, I'm rooting for the Freedom Tower.
On the other hand, I'm laying bets that it won't last more than two years after construction.

One of the reasons the World Trade Center was attacked twice was because it was such a visible symbol of our country. What makes anyone think this won't be an even more attractive target? The owners will have to give office space away to get tenants.
 
2005-04-21 12:20:03 PM  
I would like to see them back the way they were, only with some anti aircraft turrets and the like up on top. Plenty of parachutes for people. Zip lines to other buildings. Crazy shiat like that.

Unfortunately, even with some sort of defense mechanism, and more inventive escape routes, it's going to be tough to fill that much space. Not only have so many companies (like mine) gotten the hell outta downtown and bought their own buildings rather than lease, but just across the river, Goldman Sachs recently put up the tallest building in NJ, 30 Hudson St, one of my friends was an engineer there and said it wasn't even half full because if you look an the downtown JC skyline, it sticks out like a sore thumb.
 
2005-04-21 12:26:21 PM  
How about rebuild them, but somehow find a way to do a sprinkler system?
 
2005-04-21 12:28:41 PM  
My vote: Twin 200 story towers.

1 with a giant target painted on it
The other with a giant outline of a hand with a raised middle finger
 
2005-04-21 12:35:17 PM  
mediaho
Rebuild them and see how many tennants you get above the 50th floor. 80% of people just don't farking think before spewing their worthless opinions, this one included.

If we give them the top third of the building to the United Nations, the current location can go back to NYC, the UN would get updated facilities (which they have complained about fairly recently), and diplomats would have their attention concentrated on the problem of terrorism. It's a win-win-win situation.
 
2005-04-21 12:37:38 PM  
Sorry, extra "them" at the beginning of my previous post.
 
2005-04-21 12:57:10 PM  
From what I've gathered (not an expert, but am a Farker), many people hated the Twin Towers as they were being built. Whatever goes up is going to be criticized until a decade or so passes and they're used to the sight.

/maybe
 
2005-04-21 01:09:55 PM  
I miss my old skyline.

Personally, I wouldn't want to work in rebuilt Twin Towers (too creepy) nor a skyscrapper that looms above other buildings on the WTC site.

My favorite design was The Towers of Culture (should pop). It gave us back our skyline while putting the office workers in smaller skyscrappers on the side.
 
2005-04-21 01:30:24 PM  
FYI,
The 'rebuild' isn't exact, as is shown

http://www.makenynyagain.com

Basically, they are bigger, safer, and positioned differently.
 
2005-04-21 01:39:20 PM  
damageddude it didn't pop and it looks like a Walmart bag snagged on a fence.
 
2005-04-21 01:54:38 PM  
How about rebuild them, but somehow find a way to do a sprinkler system?

/Your kidding.....right?
 
2005-04-21 01:56:45 PM  
The towers of culture are a bit on the creepy side. The giant plane replica flying through the buildings is a bit disturbing.
 
2005-04-21 02:30:40 PM  
[image from img170.echo.cx too old to be available]I

I still think it looks a lot better than those boxy WTC blocks.
 
2005-04-21 02:34:24 PM  
Snarfangel:

If we give them the top third of the building to the United Nations, the current location can go back to NYC, the UN would get updated facilities (which they have complained about fairly recently), and diplomats would have their attention concentrated on the problem of terrorism. It's a win-win-win situation.

Brilliant.
 
2005-04-21 02:45:47 PM  
Well, I'm glad this was my first greenlight.

/hope to gain support for www.makenynyagain.com
 
2005-04-21 02:47:56 PM  
Too bad 100% of the dude that owns it wants the freedom tower then I guess. The property is owned by one guy right?
 
2005-04-21 02:50:28 PM  
I think we should just build a Coconut records.
 
2005-04-21 02:51:16 PM  
Snarfangel:

If we give them the top third of the building to the United Nations, the current location can go back to NYC, the UN would get updated facilities (which they have complained about fairly recently), and diplomats would have their attention concentrated on the problem of terrorism. It's a win-win-win situation.


that's a freakin great idea...
 
2005-04-21 02:51:34 PM  
c_stacer:

That's true. However, the majority of people want the new structures to be iconic, a representation of how well we've healed since 9/11. Personally, I don't think the FT says that at all.

Given the fact that we haven't healed, perhaps the "decapitated pyramid" is appropriate.

Personally, I don't care one way or the other.
 
2005-04-21 02:52:38 PM  
My bad, that was a response to mediaho
 
2005-04-21 02:52:53 PM  
I think that design is gorgeous.
 
2005-04-21 02:53:57 PM  
who cares what the people want? it's a business

if they care so much let them build their own tower, it's a free capitalist market.

whiners, all of them.
 
2005-04-21 02:54:05 PM  
Snarfangel:

If we give them the top third of the building to the United Nations, the current location can go back to NYC, the UN would get updated facilities (which they have complained about fairly recently), and diplomats would have their attention concentrated on the problem of terrorism. It's a win-win-win situation.

you just have to figure out who called in sick that day and you got name of the country to bomb.
 
2005-04-21 02:54:23 PM  
How about this? [image from images.art.com too old to be available]

/Thinks the new design is ugly wannabe EPCOT Center crap
//Will take anything that doesn't look stupid
///I heart NY
 
2005-04-21 02:54:45 PM  
My idea was to have the original two towers, but have them merge at the top, to show unity.
 
2005-04-21 02:55:44 PM  
Snarfangel

That is the BEST idea I've ever heard. I'm planning to write my senator now. Kick ass.
 
2005-04-21 02:55:51 PM  
I think we need a photoshop a WTC replacement structure!
 
2005-04-21 02:56:11 PM  
[image from img145.echo.cx too old to be available]
 
2005-04-21 02:56:27 PM  
Build them like the originals, only incorporate safety features that would guarantee they will not fall down again. Also, put some major firepower on the roof, and make sure every occupant is issued a parachute.
 
2005-04-21 02:57:22 PM  
pir8p3t3

there's my entry
 
2005-04-21 02:57:37 PM  
Snarfangel you have my vote for world president

My opinion is with the rebuild them as they were or taller crowd, sorry, shorter is not the message we should be sending.

And yes, I'd work in them, on the top floor, next to the UN =)
 
2005-04-21 02:57:45 PM  
Funny, I would like to see Osama captured.
 
2005-04-21 02:59:08 PM  
Thread over, Snarfangel wins!
 
2005-04-21 02:59:21 PM  
Just put SAM sites on top of the towers. Problem Solved.
 
2005-04-21 02:59:39 PM  
I still think the best bet would be to rebuild the towers -accounting for updated materials and safety codes, of course- but make them one floor higher than before, and put memorials on the (new) top floors. The skyline is restored to a state virtually identical to the previous one, the buildings retain the safety features of the orignal design plus the advantage of newer materials and such, and I challenge you to think of a more appropriate place for the inevitable 9/11 memorial (and if there must be one, then it may as well be done right).
 
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