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(NYPost)   Mets pitcher with $42 million contract is collecting federal subsidies on farm he owns.   (nypost.com) divider line 102
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2002-03-27 09:23:41 AM
Its 42 million over 4 years! Come on guys, that's hardly even a livable wage.

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2002-03-27 09:26:25 AM
Yankees Suck!
 
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2002-03-27 09:26:34 AM
I fail to see the problem.
 
2002-03-27 09:26:35 AM
Another reason to hate the Mets. I bet he does not pay for cable either!
 
2002-03-27 09:26:37 AM
FORMER Met pitcher Kevin Appier. He's with the Angels now.
 
2002-03-27 09:26:47 AM
The government should fine him millions of dollars and take away his 3 Ferrari's as well as his porn star brothel visiting rights for a year.
 
2002-03-27 09:26:55 AM
Yankees really suck!
 
2002-03-27 09:28:42 AM
You can't blame the guy, how many of you would do the same thing in his position?
 
2002-03-27 09:29:23 AM
To be fair, Appier probably has no idea he's collecting subsidies on this place. Whoever he hired to run the farm probably is responsible for this.
 
2002-03-27 09:31:35 AM
hehe, reminds me of a woman I know, she gets about 90k a year in goverment and state support because she knows how to use the system (and her 2 daughters).

She is only about 39, doesn't work, and is a man hater.

really sad, I only wish I knew how to do it.
 
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2002-03-27 09:32:18 AM
If the money is there, take it. You are a sucker not to take free money if offered to you.
 
2002-03-27 09:32:45 AM
Yes, lets all get outraged and demand the gov't start a 'Department of Subsidy review for the wealthy' which would monitor people's total net worth and make decisions as to whether or not subsidies were appropriate. Of course the department would need lots of funding for lawyers because every case would probably go to court.

Total taxpayer cost: 182 millions dollars.

Amount rich ball-chucker gets in subsidies: 4 thousand.
 
2002-03-27 09:32:52 AM
Big farking suprise. Dont even get me started about the subsidies Cargill, ADM, ConAgra, Bayer, et al receive.

Bah.(waves hand dismissively)
 
2002-03-27 09:34:14 AM
I would take the cash also.
 
2002-03-27 09:34:33 AM
stories like this will end up in tons of new montioring and regulation, which will eat up all the money it could have saved, and more, and in the end, the poor farmers (many of whom make waaaaaaay less than minimum wage already for damn hard work) will be the ones who pay for it.


sux.
 
2002-03-27 09:37:10 AM
Dave Berry touched on this very topic recently. He mentioned that Scotty Pippin and Ted Turner also get subsidies for farmland they own.
 
2002-03-27 09:39:03 AM
"I have no idea why I wanted to have a farm. I wasn't raised on a farm or anything," said the Southern California native.

"I just always thought it would be neat."

When asked what he would be growing on this farm, Mr. Appier repled,
"Why faberge eggs and bald eagle heads, you silly little man!"
 
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2002-03-27 09:44:41 AM
I think the important question we should all be asking ourselves right now is, 'Who can I sue?'
 
2002-03-27 09:47:34 AM
I always wanted a farm to grow Tomacco on. Ummmm, sweet juicy tomacco.
 
2002-03-27 09:47:58 AM
Former Met pitcher Kevin Appier..
 
2002-03-27 09:49:39 AM
 
2002-03-27 09:49:52 AM
A society wher the rich get richer and the poor get farked over.
FB- using recylced jokes, shame on you.
 
2002-03-27 09:51:29 AM
I saw the Mets get their ass kicked vs LA last night. He might need the extra money.
 
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2002-03-27 09:52:02 AM
Imabmf,

It wasn't a joke.
 
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2002-03-27 09:52:52 AM
 
2002-03-27 09:54:08 AM
Fb- I think he was referring to your life, not your post.

;)
 
2002-03-27 09:55:14 AM
And if the headline had read "Farmer gets multimillion dollar baseball contract" how would all of you reacted?
 
2002-03-27 09:59:40 AM
This just goes to show how many people have to look for work off of the farm in order to make ends meet.
 
2002-03-27 09:59:58 AM
End all farm subsidies and the problem is solved. Some 60% of all farm subsidies go to a few large corporations(ADM, etc.).
 
2002-03-27 10:02:45 AM
Personally, I don't see the reason that the U.S. government subsidizes any farmer in a free-market economy. And much of the subsidy process is so political that it isn't funny. *I* don't want to pay farmers not to work. The issue of paying rich vs. poor farmers is just as irrelevant.
 
2002-03-27 10:03:12 AM
OK 9/10,
thats right, end all farm subsidies. I personally LOVE the taste of hormone injected, genetically engineered produce from factory farms. In fact, FARK all the small farms who rely on this funding. Lets just build shopping malls over all of them and clone our food!

 
2002-03-27 10:03:13 AM
9/10: Or create stricter rules on who is eligible.
 
2002-03-27 10:04:40 AM
Think on this for a minute: this guy was such a loser that the *Mets* didn't want him - he's "pitching" for the Angels now. He doesn't deserve our scorn, just our pity.

In other news, the Orioles and Red Sox were mathematically eliminated from playoff contention today.
 
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2002-03-27 10:05:11 AM
Stevarooni,

How do you feel about paying $6 for a head of lettuce or $15 for 3lbs of tomatos?
 
2002-03-27 10:06:27 AM


"Professional athletes......... always wantin' more"
*shakes head*
 
2002-03-27 10:07:22 AM
Who cares? So what? What's the problem?

#1: He has the skill to warrant a $42 million contract.

#2: If the govt. is stupid enough to hand over money to the guy, good for him. At least it's money that won't go to some welfare broodmare.

All you freaking whiners need to grow up and try to accomplish something other than biatch and moan about other people's money.

PS: Long live Fb-.
 
2002-03-27 10:07:56 AM
Good_Beer: ok, then let's collectivize all agricultural activities and let the government run them all.
 
2002-03-27 10:08:40 AM
If you don't like "hormone injected, genetically engineered produce from factory farms", then don't buy it, Good_Beer. Pay more for small-farm food. But having the government do what the economy should do on its own is asinine. What ends up happening is a bunch of subsidies (paid by me and anyone else who pays taxes) which generally end up in the pockets of some corporation one way or another. Of course, then committees are formed to close loopholes, which either create more loopholes or shut out those farmers who could benefit from the subsidies. Meanwhile, the price of food inflates artificially, and people are still induced to buy from large, corporate farms because their prices are lower from mass production. Ah, so raise the subsidies again! Ad infinitum.
 
wil [TotalFark]
2002-03-27 10:09:10 AM
I have much to say...


but I'm choking on my own rage, here.
 
2002-03-27 10:11:54 AM
If farmers made money from growing instead of being paid to not grow food, Fb-, then prices would lower. Or I wouldn't buy tomatoes or lettuce at those prices. (Supply and demand, right?) If it's $6 a head of lettuce, more farmers would grow lettuce, and then the price would lower.
 
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2002-03-27 10:12:01 AM
Stevarooni,

End government subsidies and the farms are going to have to stay in business somehow. Misus those millions of dollars that large congomerates of farms receive, you're going to be facing a free market situation where you pay $6 for lettuce and $10 for 3 ears of corn. The money has to come from somewhere.
 
2002-03-27 10:14:31 AM
A minority number of farms (Large farms) are responsible for the majority of the agricultural production in this country. So things like loan deffeciency payments that are based on production wind up with larger sums of money being paid to farms with larger net worth(yes, even corporate farms). The purpose behind most of these payments is "You had a bushel of wheat you sold for X dollars, the price should be at Y dollars, hear is the difference". It doesn't matter if you have a large corporate farm, a baseball contract, are nice guy or not, or even a attractive and successful African-American. It just says the market screwed ya, here's some KY to help you out til next time.
 
2002-03-27 10:14:59 AM
We seem to forget, John Wayne did this with 4 ranches and received almost $200k a year!
 
2002-03-27 10:16:03 AM
it aint no worse than welfare
 
2002-03-27 10:16:31 AM
And he's s'posed to do what--give it back?

Smart move by that non-profit--pick some schlub to demonize, and eventually people Might begin to figure out that the govt's farm subsidy program is stoopid.

It will suck to be Kevin Appier today, a day in which he will still make close to $27K.
 
2002-03-27 10:17:22 AM
Fb-, if lettuce prices jump to $6 per head and corn prices jump to $10 for three ears, you're going to see more people start to grow them because there is a profit in them - which will increase production volume and eventually drive down prices. The price will eventually level off at a point where supply and demand are equal, no? The current problem is that there are too many producers and not enough consumers, which is why prices are so low for crops - there is an oversupply!
 
2002-03-27 10:22:19 AM
End government subsidies and the farms are going to have to stay in business somehow.

Sorry, Fb-, but I disagree with you on this one. Farm's don't have to stay in business; they can go out of business. I don't think that low prices are in place because of subsidies, but rather that they're inflated because of subsidies. Competition is stifled, and so small farmers have no real incentive to improve their methods.
 
2002-03-27 10:24:20 AM
Hmmm... Lessee here:

I'm the Federal Government (I am, you know--and so are the rest of us), and I decide--for whatever reason--that I want there to be more (small farms, retirement savings accounts, jobs in the inner-city (that's "slum" for you non-PC'ers out there), whatever...) than there are.

So, I pass a law to support (farm subsidy, tax-deferred 401(k) plan, an "enterprise district"), etc.

And I give people money to do what I want done. Perhaps I subsidize their farms. Or allow them to keep their own earnings until they retire. Or provide tax-exemptions for builders in certain areas.

Frankly, what I (the government) am doing here is directing social behaviour through manipulation of finances.

It has nothing to do with how much money a person makes. If you plant/save/build/etc. as I wish, then I give you money. Or let you keep your own money.

To say "The rich should not receive these subsidies because they already have enough money." is a non-sequitur. It is based on your jealousy of someone who has achieved more than you have.

Rather than aspiring to better your situation, you whine about your fate. You try to pull down anyone you perceive as more successful than yourself.

Eat the rich? Fvck off. Become the rich. It's what you really want.
 
2002-03-27 10:24:25 AM
Did you know that only 4 companies control all of our food now? I'm surprised the government doesn't just seize the farms.
 
2002-03-27 10:27:14 AM
The taxes he pays on the 42 mil will cover the subsidies, as well as subsidize more than a couple of family farms that actually need it.

quitcherbiatchin
 
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