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2005-04-10 04:29:48 PM
Yup, good ol' Puritan morality. Make sure nobody ever does anything that might be fun.
 
2005-04-10 04:37:06 PM
Make sure nobody ever does anything that might be fun.

All the fun was sucked out of my life when they made giving alcohol to underage girls illegal.

/I keeed!
 
2005-04-10 05:02:56 PM
They raided a place here at Virginia Tech last week, too.
 
2005-04-10 05:08:13 PM
Frickin' (insert Godwin-like term here)
 
2005-04-10 05:22:37 PM
Busts have happened here in NC pretty recently, too. Good thing they've taken care of all the other crime going on.

linky (pops)
 
2005-04-10 05:44:12 PM
Yeah, busting 70-year-old, cane-wielding card players is pretty high on my priority list for police. Good to see that happening.
 
2005-04-10 07:03:11 PM
This is silly! So they play poker ... with money. It's their money to lose.

(shrugs)
 
2005-04-10 07:46:12 PM
They're doing this in Florida too. Just another one of the many thousands of reasons to hate the government.
 
2005-04-10 08:42:53 PM
They should just change the name of the game to Freedom Poker. Problem solved.
 
2005-04-10 08:55:44 PM
This is exactly how the Nazis started.


/there you go, MisterE
 
2005-04-10 08:58:20 PM
Ditto: They should just change the name of the game to Freedom Poker. Problem solved.

hahahaha
 
2005-04-10 09:00:10 PM
Missouri is doing this to protect Argosy and Harrah's. Apparently The big casinos are concerned about losing money. What a crock.

/The Rhine fire justa TD called back on a lame holding call
//waiting for September.
 
2005-04-10 09:00:53 PM
big question-

in geometry, if you have to legs of a triangle, then a^2 + b^2 =c^2 or, the base. if you have a leg and a base, whats the equation for finding the other leg?

thankyou.
 
BHK
2005-04-10 09:03:05 PM
America. Land of the Free, home of the Brave. Unless you do something that harms noone but upsets the sensitivities of the moral authorities.
 
2005-04-10 09:03:25 PM
nintendo, it must obviously be a = (c^2 - b^2)^(1/2), where "a" is the unknown leg.

That was an awesome post to stick here.
 
2005-04-10 09:05:51 PM
Uh, it's illegal. If you confused souls don't like that then work to change the law. Or just continue to sit there and whine.
 
2005-04-10 09:06:50 PM
About time! I was getting sick of the big Texas Hold'em fad.

I don't care about the gambling, but the whole fad nature of the recent poker boom has made me sick to my stomach.
 
2005-04-10 09:07:06 PM
As soon as the government figures a way to get their cut from it, morals and ethics will no longer be of any concern.
 
2005-04-10 09:07:50 PM
Wow... what a waste. Priorities need lots of fixing.
 
2005-04-10 09:09:03 PM
America, fark yeah!
 
2005-04-10 09:09:24 PM
"Uh, it's illegal. If you confused souls don't like that then work to change the law. Or just continue to sit there and whine."

Someone took a bad beat...
 
2005-04-10 09:09:36 PM
astudill-Thanks alot. :-D
 
2005-04-10 09:10:49 PM
RockIsDead:

Uh, it's illegal.

I, for one, understand the risk involved in participating in an illegal act. I still am pretty sure that the police has more important crimes to take care of over busting up friendly poker games. Perhaps a farker in the force can correct me?
 
2005-04-10 09:12:46 PM
The thing is, there's a big difference between running illegal gambling operations and the busts that have been taking place down here in Florida. Here, they are shutting down bars that are holding FREE no-stakes poker games. As in, shutting down people who want to gather and play poker for free.

Their rationale is a poorly-worded law that basically forbids playing cards for any item of value. They're interpreting "for" to mean "as a prize" rather than its intended meaning, implying a player having stakes in the game.

It's shiatty. Places of business ought to be able to give free drinks/food/whatever to any patron they want.
 
2005-04-10 09:14:57 PM
Even better question:

If the definition of nothing is "Something that has no existence", when the definition of something is "An undetermined or unspecified thing", does this mean that nothing exists? If so, then does nothing not exist? Therefore, nothing exist but something does not, and nothing does not exist and something does.

If you follow this, good job! If not read it again and continue to until it does.

/I truly am an evil bastard
 
2005-04-10 09:15:34 PM
astudill


There is no way in hell they don't have better things to do. Sitting around with their thumbs in their asses is much better than screwing with a bunch of guys playing a game of poker while drinking a beer and joking around.
 
2005-04-10 09:16:18 PM
RockIsDead
Uh, it's illegal. If you confused souls don't like that then work to change the law. Or just continue to sit there and whine.

RTFA. According to the article, it's not terribly clear wether it *is* illegal or not. Furthermore the way the law had been being enforced until recenlty indicated that it was *not* in fact illegal, and they have recently changed the interpretation (but not the writing) of the law.
 
2005-04-10 09:16:32 PM
Guess what people... gambling is illegal. Don't like it? Go to a town meeting and get a vote together until it is changed. Until then... don't break the farking law.

/Barely RTFA
//Knows what its about anyway
 
2005-04-10 09:16:54 PM
Uh, it's illegal. If you confused souls don't like that then work to change the law. Or just continue to sit there and whine.

Why's it illegal?

Or any act, for that matter, that harms no one but the person partaking in it?
 
2005-04-10 09:16:56 PM
freznel, you evil bastard.

/cleans glasses and tries again.
 
2005-04-10 09:17:05 PM
It is a lonely life...
 
2005-04-10 09:17:41 PM
RockIsDead:

Uh, it's illegal. If you confused souls don't like that then work to change the law. Or just continue to sit there and whine.


Uh, that's why we have lawmakers, so the people don't have to put laws into place themselves (aka "a revolution"). The people have done their job, now it's the lawmaker's job to carry out the will of the people. Seems to me most people consider these tournaments to be acceptable, so the laws should change.
 
2005-04-10 09:17:47 PM
Glad to see that Native Americans can run big huge casinos ( but don't pay their dues to the state, or at least in WI ), but the mom/pop bar can't host a tiny hold'em tournament.
 
2005-04-10 09:17:54 PM
astudill:

I, for one, understand the risk involved in participating in an illegal act. I still am pretty sure that the police has more important crimes to take care of over busting up friendly poker games. Perhaps a farker in the force can correct me?

Not a cop, but I am a prosecuting attorney and if I was on the Grand Jury docket (which I'm not) I would wonder why in the hell someone made this a priority.
 
2005-04-10 09:17:57 PM
my geometry question was tougher than your philosophy question.

the answer to existence, as we all know perfectly well, is "42"
 
2005-04-10 09:18:36 PM
RockIsDead: You're the kind of compliant person that allows these asinine laws to exist. This country was built on revolting against big government.
 
2005-04-10 09:20:06 PM
The religous right will not only pick on the gays forever. Gamblers and artists, watch out.
 
2005-04-10 09:21:11 PM
after the politicians are done ordering the cops to bust innocent poker games they should start arresting people for going 5 mph over the speed limit in the name of public safety. cops should be worried about stopping violent crimes by using violent force instead of criminalizing a perfectly moral game. after all, the gamblers who make poker seem "unethical" are the types who would sell their farm/daughter/rolex for a chance to win it big.

\tired of the asshole minority of irresponsible people ruining everyone's fun
\same thing goes for drinking
 
2005-04-10 09:22:32 PM
SlickBomb

Guess what people... gambling is illegal. Don't like it? Go to a town meeting and get a vote together until it is changed. Until then... don't break the farking law.

/Barely RTFA
//Knows what its about anyway


Maybe you should do more than "barely" RTFA, because you DON'T know what it's about. As keethrax says, the law is unclear, and the authorities, almost certainly at the behest of the closest casino in that state, have "reinterpreted" the law to protect their taxpaying casinos.

Way to spread goodwill law enforcement losers, 1) you're busting a 70 year old with a cane for a victimless "crime" and 2) wasting your time with bullshiat while other more serious crime goes unpoliced.

Farking idiots.
 
2005-04-10 09:22:33 PM
cuz gamblin's bad.
christ. I think Australia got the good end of the equation as a colony of the Brits. Convicts instead of Puritans makes for a much more sane outlook on life.
 
2005-04-10 09:23:16 PM
This is what pisses me off. I hate when the police feel that they need to conduct a raid to make an example out of law-abiding citizens. Raids are mainly used for drug or prostitution activity, not questionably legal gambling activities that are advertised to the public and held before large crowds. Why not just let the bar owner know that it's illegal and leave it at that? Besides, the law of unintended consequences will ensure that people will just have these tournaments in the privacy of their own home, and both the bar and the state will lose out on revenue from drinks and whatever else.
 
2005-04-10 09:27:36 PM
This Here Giraffe:

Give it a farking rest. Odds are that the guys busted WERE the "religious right".

Cut the political bullshiat for five minutes and get serious.
 
2005-04-10 09:29:19 PM
I'm all in.
 
2005-04-10 09:29:52 PM
It is kinda funny that they were playing a game called "hold 'em" and then got handcuffed.
 
2005-04-10 09:30:39 PM
djemonk:

All the fun was sucked out of my life when they made giving alcohol to underage girls boys illegal.

/I keeed!


fixed.
 
2005-04-10 09:31:15 PM
okay terrific

Yeah, but that's Cora.
 
2005-04-10 09:32:41 PM
Huh.
 
2005-04-10 09:32:45 PM
I agree with ZeroCorpse. It's not so much the gambling that gets me as it is the fad inherent in it. Not that nobody gambled before some jackass decided it'd make great TV, but this poker trend wore out its welcome quicker than a whore with scabies.
 
2005-04-10 09:33:55 PM
It is interesting that chess tournaments are perfectly legal... and even Magic: The Gathering tournaments (which have almost as much luck as Texas Hold'em) are perfectly legal. However, a poker tournament is illegal.

It makes no sense to me. Anybody that has any knowledge of poker realizes that it is not a game of luck. Everybody gets the same cards and has the same shot at "luck" in the long run. The only difference between a long-term winner and loser is skill. Poker is a game of skill that uses luck in its mechanics. It is not like roulette, which is all luck.
 
2005-04-10 09:35:42 PM
swahnhennessy: It's not so much the gambling that gets me as it is the fad inherent in it.

This is the first fad that I've ever considered non-biatchworthy. Veteran poker players shouldn't be pissed about it, aren't they making more money off of those who are just hitching along for the ride?
 
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