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2005-04-09 07:59:44 PM
Nice headline, Submitter. I always enjoy nerd humor.

Troy Frisbie, 37, a NASA systems engineer who paid more than $1,500 for a gold ticket, lodging, meals and airfare from his Van Cleave, Miss., home, came primarily to see Shatner. His son, Austin, 4, is a huge fan of Capt. Kirk too, and often mimics his command, "Fire!" Neither father nor son was born when the show began in 1966, but the family has copies of every episode.

As an enthusiastic Star Trek fan, I'd like to say shame on you, Troy Frisbie! A Star Trek infatuation is your own burden. Don't pass it on to your son who doesn't know any better. What happened to wanting your children to have a better life than you had?
 
2005-04-09 09:12:30 PM


T'pring goes to the BINGO.

/spock jr, honey, help find mama her slippers an' her lucky dabber, okay?
 
2005-04-10 12:15:35 AM
Strange how Star Trek always seemed to have a Nazi in every 5th episode.

Here is spocks wife battling YET ANOTHER Nazi:
 
2005-04-10 12:42:42 AM
And then there was the weekend Leonard Nimoy, Bob Crane and I got together. Bob said, "have you guys seen these new portable video cameras and tape recorders? Only 50 pounds all together. We can get Werner to come over and run it."
 
2005-04-10 01:09:20 AM
You mean Wil Wheaton?
 
2005-04-10 06:54:35 AM
To boldly go where no convention has gone before!

Never thought of myself as a big Star Trek fan until a buddy told me I was the "proverbial trekkie".
 
2005-04-10 06:58:06 AM
This is old news. I unnerstand that "Yeoman Rand" gave considerably more than an autograph for her "asking price"....
 
2005-04-10 06:58:21 AM
this article was very very sad.
 
2005-04-10 06:59:09 AM
Get a life...?
 
2005-04-10 07:01:16 AM
"But the original "Star Trek" offers the best enterprise for convention organizers and actors, some of whom find their "Star Trek" roles far eclipse other achievements."

I'll bet the writer felt REALLY witty for that one.
 
2005-04-10 07:11:37 AM
Trekkie is generic now...like aspirin. Just means a person who may have a subscription to Popular Science (more like Nerdular Nerdence) or perhaps people who visit a news website and post at all hours of the night.

I've come up with a few of these myself, like Sister Hooty which describes every accoustic balland group during the late 90's and early 00's.

/Inventing insults is fun
 
2005-04-10 07:14:26 AM
AgentKGB: You mean Wil Wheaton?

Wheaton was a regular cast member, not a bit player. RTFH.
 
2005-04-10 07:39:13 AM
He was a regular bit player :p
 
2005-04-10 07:45:50 AM
You do what you have to do.
 
2005-04-10 07:49:14 AM
It's easy to make fun of these people and these conventions, but I've been to a few Creation Cons because of my work at the time, and it can be interesting to talk to the people who set up there.

For example, I talked to James Hong one time. You know, this guy:

He was a trip.

On the other hand, I've met Shatner, Nimoy, Majel Roddenberry and Koenig, but NOT at Star Trek-ish cons, but rather through my work, or going to the theatre.

P.S. Meeting Shatner was like meeting the president.
 
2005-04-10 07:49:56 AM
scraping-fetus-off-the-wheel: He was a regular bit player :p

The question is: Is he worth a 60$ autograph or 70$ photo?

*heading off to Hollywood to start a new carreer*
 
2005-04-10 08:05:44 AM
$20 for an autograph of some nobody? Hell, I wouldn't pay $20 for a signed pic of me and Thomas Pynchon getting drunk together, let alone some never-was actor. And that goes for the stars, as well. Including you, Wil!
 
2005-04-10 08:19:27 AM


/Unavailable for comment
 
2005-04-10 08:29:01 AM
speedballtucker: Nice headline, Submitter. I always enjoy nerd humor.

Uh, more like "lazy headline, submitter". If you read the title of the article, you'd realize they just stole it from the original article.


/Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!
 
2005-04-10 08:30:40 AM
Amusing article, but kind of long.
 
2005-04-10 08:38:12 AM
"...other science-fiction memorabilia and movies such as "Lust in Space."

is this a typo or god-forbid some sort of star trek porn...but I bet if they made it..someone would buy it...*shudders*
 
2005-04-10 08:40:00 AM
Wow, not one "Neeeeeerd!" I'm shocked.
 
2005-04-10 08:44:15 AM
WDFark think for a second:

is this a typo or god-forbid some sort of star trek porn...but I bet if they made it..someone would buy it...*shudders*


Apparently, you haven't been introduced to Sex Trek: The Next Penetration.
 
2005-04-10 08:47:14 AM
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaab!



nah
 
2005-04-10 08:47:50 AM
I went to Motor City Comic Con quite a few years back. There was a guy who was in Empire Strikes Back. He was the bald guy with the metal thing on the back of his head who worked for Lando. The guy wanted $8 for an autograph, $12 for a glossy, and I think $10 if you wanted to take his picture.

However, I had actually came there to meet Lloyd Kaufman, one of my cinematic idols. He was extremely friendly, appreciative of his fans, and charged nothing for signing my copy of "All I Need to Know About Filmmaking, I Learned from the Toxic Avenger." When my friend and I said we were leaving to go back home, he stood up and hugged both of us.

In summation, I'd like to say that Kaufman rocks and that Star Wars guy doesn't. That's all I have to say about that.
 
2005-04-10 08:52:12 AM
LesserEvil

My thoughts exactly!

"I'm not even supposed to be here. I'm just 'Crewman Number Six.' I'm expendable. I'm the guy in the episode who dies to prove how serious the situation is. I've gotta get outta here."

/Galaxy Quest rocked!
 
2005-04-10 09:08:38 AM
A computer technician from Los Angeles who gave his name as Alan had the actors autograph his "Star Trek Encyclopedia A Guide to the Future" over the entries for each of their characters. He has collected about 200 so far.

What will he do once he gets signatures for all the entries? "I'll just review them, and hold them and cherish them. I'm not going to let 'em go. Not until I die," he said.


See, that's where it kind of breaks down - when you ask them what they're going to do with the autographs.



"You know, before I answer any more questions there's something I wanted to say. Having received all your letters over the years, and I've spoken to many of you, and some of you have traveled... y'know... hundreds of miles to be here, I'd just like to say... GET A LIFE, will you people? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just a TV show! I mean, look at you, look at the way you're dressed! You've turned an enjoyable little job, that I did as a lark for a few years, into a COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME! I mean, how old are you people? What have you done with yourselves? You, you must be almost 30... have you ever kissed a girl? I didn't think so! There's a whole world out there! When I was your age, I didn't watch television! I LIVED! So... move out of your parent's basements! And get your own apartments and GROW THE HELL UP! I mean, it's just a TV show dammit, IT'S JUST A TV SHOW!"
 
2005-04-10 09:09:26 AM
GreenAdder:

There was a guy who was in Empire Strikes Back. He was the bald guy with the metal thing on the back of his head who worked for Lando. The guy wanted $8 for an autograph, $12 for a glossy, and I think $10 if you wanted to take his picture.

You dare to put down the mighty Lobot??? FOR SHAME!!!!

/$8 is reasonable when other SW folk charge upwards of $20-100
 
2005-04-10 09:11:02 AM

...But I have nothing else
 
2005-04-10 09:13:53 AM
What? Wil is selling autographs for $20? I'll take one, Wil. Do you accept Paypal?
 
2005-04-10 09:27:04 AM
Why do people always have to take these things too far? I really like Star Trek (though lately it has really sucked), but I can never admit it to people outside of friends as then you look like you are a total dork. It's a fictional TV show, not a life path.

And I wouldn't pay more than a buck for anyone's autograph, Star Trek or otherwise.
 
2005-04-10 09:32:45 AM
eff ewe: What? Wil is selling autographs for $20? I'll take one, Wil. Do you accept Paypal?

Oh snap. Don't listen to him Wil.
 
2005-04-10 09:37:12 AM
and in all this, the Vulcans look at us and are aware that we are still very far away from achieving Warp drive
 
2005-04-10 09:38:54 AM
I have a lot of respect for actors, trekkies, and the whole culture that follows...

But charging for autographs is just obnoxious. C'mon, no one should charge for autographs, I don't care who you are. You do it cause the fans love you, and if you can make money off that somehow (like charging the organizers for an appearance, or getting free publicity), then fine. But charging money for your farking signature is, I dunno, rediculously blatant? I thought everyone had gotten a revolting taste in their mouth after sports idiots started doing it... now it's apparently a business.

As far as I know, authors and comic book artists never do this... Imagine going to get a book signed by say Dave Sim, or Orson Scott Card, or Terry Goodkind. Sure, maybe sometimes they will only sign new copies, but at least they're making some kind of REASONABLE business transaction: they're selling their books. And it keeps the traffic down in a way, it's understandable that they don't have a whole lot of time, and can't spend all day, day after day, signing everything. And there is a definite reasoning behind it - "this is my new stuff, I accomplished it, and I'll sign it for you". But if they said "my autograph is worth this much" (you're not paying any more for the book than you normally would) I think most people would just walk out in disgust (I would). At least they walk out with a brand new book signed by the author/artist.

Charging for the simple act of signing something or having your picture taken is simply pathetic, not too mention tremendously self-indulgent and elitist.

As much as I hate Bush, I can't even see him (or any world leader) sitting at a table and charging money for his Hancock. I'm sure Clinton only signed new copies of his book at his signings for the above reasons. I guess if Bush would write a book someday (really trying to keep a straight face as I type this), then he'd be entitled to sign only new copies of his book (trying hard, starting to giggle). But until then, could you imagine the leader of the free world (okay, I can't help it, I'm laughing now) charging money to scribble his name on something?

With that in mind, what the hell entitles these people who had an acting job once for a beloved series to charge money for their autograph? What kind of moron pays for it? Why should they have to?

Pure captilistic idiocy. Art is apparently dead.
 
2005-04-10 09:43:01 AM
Her "Star Trek" claim to-not-so-much fame? "I perform a tantalizing dance for the Enterprise crew," she said. "And then accompany Scotty for a walk in the fog. But I get killed, and they think Scotty did it, but it was actually Jack the Ripper."

Nonsense. Everyone knows Jack the Ripper was taken by the Vorlons.
 
2005-04-10 09:53:07 AM
That is one of those Hollywood things that grates. Can you imagine how different that B5 episode would have been if the inquisitor had been Charlie Manson? John Wayne Gacy? How about that Russian cannibal guy who killed like 200 people?

But noooooooo. It's gotta be Jack the Ripper. Personally, I think it would have been a lot better if it had been somebody like Paul Reubens as Pee Wee Herman. That Star Trek episode would have been better, too.

"Mr. Scott! Did you kill that woman?"

"What's it to ya? Nyah-ha-ha!"
 
2005-04-10 10:01:46 AM
Shatner's greatest hit--all downhill from here, and off the cliff recently.

 
2005-04-10 10:13:07 AM
Someone wants to pay me $20 per auto for a days work 20 years ago and I'm all over it!!

Come on...hardly the actors fault here...it's the goofy fans.

"Move out of your parents basements!! Get a job"
 
2005-04-10 10:15:54 AM
As much as I hate Bush, I can't even see him (or any world leader) sitting at a table and charging money for his Hancock.


These were free..
 
2005-04-10 10:19:40 AM
whammer:

But noooooooo. It's gotta be Jack the Ripper. Personally, I think it would have been a lot better if it had been somebody like Paul Reubens as Pee Wee Herman.

"Who are you?"
"Delenn"
"SHE SAID THE MAGIC WORD! AHHHHHH!!"
 
2005-04-10 10:33:32 AM
But until then, could you imagine the leader of the free world (okay, I can't help it, I'm laughing now) charging money to scribble his name on something?

Bush can write?
 
2005-04-10 10:39:04 AM
enderpanda:

Charging for the simple act of signing something or having your picture taken is simply pathetic, not too mention tremendously self-indulgent and elitist


No, paying for that autograph is pathetic. Selling it is just shearing the sheep in the proud American tradition of "A fool and his money were damned lucky to get together in the first place".

If Shatner wants to gold-plate his bowel movements and sell thenm for $2,500 a pop as KirkTurds(tm) - and I have no doubt there's a market for KirkTurds(tm), no doubt at all - then God bless'im.

P.T. Barnum vastly underestimated the situation when he said there was a sucker born every minute.
 
2005-04-10 10:41:46 AM
enderpanda I get where you're coming from in the case of athletes and big stars who are doing well anyway, but how can you begrudge a character actor or bit part player what is by all accounts a very modest living?

I'll bet a lot of these people really rely on that money to survive. Besides that, it might be fun for the fans, but it's work for the person behind the desk. Have you ever has to sign your name for hours on end? How about having to try and relate to strange people, answer their questions and put your arm around them to pose for a photograph?

Me either, but I'd certainly want a decent days pay to subject myself to that. You can bet your last brass razoo that half of the actors wouldn't show up if they were expected to work for free, and that detracts from the atmosphere of the whole con.

Fans get their signed photo, obscure, elderly actors get to earn a few dollars, and everyone is happy...so what's the problem?
 
2005-04-10 10:43:16 AM
At DragonCon 2004 the one thing I wanted was for David Carradine to autograph my Kill Bill DVD. He charged $20 for it, didn't say a damn word to me, didn't even look me in the eye... he was a total prick.

As for charging for autographs... I know a LOT of people who run DragonCon and they say that sometimes they are forced to charge. For many of them it's the only way they're getting paid at that con. I know, for example, that a lot of guests that go to DragonCon have to get their OWN ROOM. It's not that way at all cons, but if they charge you more often than not they have a reason for it.
 
2005-04-10 11:18:14 AM
My biggest disappointment was when I went to the T.J. Hooker convention. No Locklear, no Shatner, but all the Zmed you could stand.

(shudders, recalling some T.J. Hooker slash fanfic I accidentally saw on a table in the dealer's room)
 
2005-04-10 11:21:50 AM
I went to an autograph show to meet Adam West once He charged $20 for it but he did take time to talk and get to know us before we left. Same show I met the entire living cast of Lost in Space and they were cool too, telling stories and stuff.
 
2005-04-10 11:33:13 AM
In Orlando back in the early to mid 80's I was able to get James Doohan, George Takai, and Walter Koenig's autographs on the VHS cover of Wrath of Kahn. The three of them were traveling together to promote the video release, and all three were very polite, charming and friendly to the long line of fans who'd arrived to see them. Hell, Koenig, was even in one of the Star Fleet jackets, while he was signing. At a few other conventions, I managed to get autographs from BiBi Besch (DR. Carol Markus), and the kid that played her son david. The best part was, at that time, nobody had yet thought to capitalize on their Star Trek fame, and charge for their signatures.
 
2005-04-10 11:34:36 AM
Packed my bags last night, preflight....
 
2005-04-10 11:48:21 AM
I'm surprised that none of these dweebs have done the typical "we're Trekkers, NOT Trekkies!" rant.
 
2005-04-10 11:54:21 AM
Cardinal
Have you heard Shatner's new album? It's farking awesome. I'm not a trekkie, but I swear my first kid's middle name is gonna be Shatner. I love him for who he is: a total cheeseball/badass that isn't afraid to laugh at himself.

moulderx1
They were ripped off ;) And wouldn't that technically defacing the flag?

doctechnical
I agree, but the difference is that people arn't forced to pay for that... But if you go to a Con to see your idol and get their autograph, then have to pay (on top of the entrance fee) for their autograph, I think it's kinda a slap in the face.

Diablo Trout
I agree with you as well, but I think that should be put on the organizers. You already probably have to stand in line, and you already paid a not too small price just to walk in the door. I guess what really pisses me off is that 1) these people havn't done anything lately and they're getting free (er, actually paid) publicity - if it leads to getting a role in a movie or something, cool, but to rake money off people for the privilege to have a stupid signature or photo (and NOT give it to people who can't or won't pony up) is rediculous... 2) these people seem to be destroying their art and work... it's like saying "Sure I cared about what I did, but now I'm going to put a price tag on my own hype and sell it to whoever cares", it cheapens the entire process... 3) it sets a precedence, for other celebs to do the same thing (as I said before, authors and artists don't pull this crap - the price is included in buying the new material - which is the problem these people have - they don't have any new material), imagine if it just became standard for ANYONE that has any fame to charge for their signature.

I do agree with you in a way... Lord knows if I was a bit part actor and I had a way to make some much needed money later, of course I would jump at it. But it just seems so money-grubbing, so cheap, and so anti-fan. The cons should pay the autographers enough money that they don't have to charge individually, and so you don't have to put a price tag on signatures.

I'm probably going overboard with this, but I think this whole issue is reflective of larger problems with the world - I detest the "money is god" attitude that virtually every aspect of our society has taken. Fans, especially comics/sci-fi/fantasy fans, are the ones who put these people where they are - not because the studios and publishers spent a bunch of money on a formula and shoved it down their throats, but because these people truly love and care about the work they put into it.

Art is not about making money, it's about expression and making a difference or doing something different, and I think the whole autograph=$ thing cheapens it tremendously.
 
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