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2005-04-08 05:42:39 PM  
Composer Roy Nathanson said the concert will mix humor, jazz music, computer-generated beats, and the occasional rocks being banged together to "follow the geological history of how this zircon came about."

Dang. I thought that said computer generated breasts!
 
2005-04-08 07:18:48 PM  
How the f*ck do they date things like that?
 
2005-04-08 10:31:26 PM  
Rock on!
 
2005-04-08 10:32:32 PM  
ChadManMn:

I dunno how they dated a speck of crystal, but if anyone says Carbon-14 dating I'll smack em with a wet herring.
 
2005-04-08 10:33:02 PM  
I thought the world was only 10,000 years old.

Where'd they get this Rock?
 
2005-04-08 10:33:46 PM  
ChadManMn

Has something to do with knowing its half-life. I don't know the specifics of it, though.
 
2005-04-08 10:33:50 PM  
But... the Earth is only 6000 years old! The Bible says so!

\\For the uninformed, I am being sarcastic
\\\Evolution Flamewar in 5...4...3...2...
 
2005-04-08 10:34:07 PM  
7-eleven hot dogs arent that old, many of them get thrown out daily. If you want old hotdogs, go to AM/PM
 
2005-04-08 10:34:39 PM  
I want to know what possesed someone to try to figure out how old the thing was ... was he just poking around the garden with a magifying glass and suddenly goes ... "Heeeey ... I get that's really old .... I gotta get it to a lab!"
 
2005-04-08 10:35:07 PM  
submitter = [image from img.fark.com too old to be available]

great headline! LM-farking-AO
 
2005-04-08 10:38:37 PM  
DarKrow, it is 6K or 10K? I forgot...

//going to back to count begats..
 
2005-04-08 10:39:00 PM  
A tiny speck of zircon crystal that is barely visible to the eye is believed to be the oldest known piece of Earth at about 4.4 billion years old.

With the aid of a microscope, anyone will be able to check out the tiny grain, which measures less than two human hairs in diameter.


ChadManMn: How the f*ck do they date things like that?

lemme ask you something else. How the f*ck do they find things like that ?

Do the go to the beach with a microscope, get random specks of shiat and then go back to do the lab and start the misterious process of dating em ?
 
2005-04-08 10:40:39 PM  


[image from home.comcast.net too old to be available]

Bah.
I have socks older than that.



/tell them I hate them
 
2005-04-08 10:41:11 PM  
rob.d

Some Christian dude anaylized the bible and determined the date of the Creation to be 4004 BC. I think the date was October 25th, but I could be wrong.
 
2005-04-08 10:41:27 PM  
english failure there...

Do they go
mysterious process
 
2005-04-08 10:41:28 PM  
JackassBlack

Certain elements have very long half-lives, so I guess they're curious when they see a rare one that could be very old and help provide answers for other geological questions.

[/nerd]
 
2005-04-08 10:43:32 PM  
[image from home.kc.rr.com too old to be available]

Now I've done it
 
2005-04-08 10:47:11 PM  
Assad
Do the go to the beach with a microscope, get random specks of shiat and then go back to do the lab and start the misterious process of dating em ?


Do you like to sit on the beach and occasionally pick up handfulls of sand?

Would you mind occasionally pooring some of that sand into a large machine?

Then you might have what it takes to be a research assistant on a large university grant project.
 
2005-04-08 10:47:45 PM  
World's second-oldest known object:

[image from canoe.ca too old to be available]
 
2005-04-08 10:47:48 PM  
.. and the clerk that runs the store, can charge a little more for meat (for meat) and milk (and milk) [together and slowly] from 19-84
 
2005-04-08 10:47:51 PM  
note also that all those spelling errors are due at least in part to the quantity of beer that I have consumed this evening.
 
2005-04-08 10:48:58 PM  
Give me a few thousand dollars, and I can get you a meteorite older than that.
 
2005-04-08 10:49:44 PM  
...In posters hanging on campus, the concert is advertised as "a loving musical tribute to the oldest known object on Earth."

Cher's Farewell Tour?
 
2005-04-08 10:55:00 PM  
Best headline of the day.
 
2005-04-08 10:55:02 PM  
enave:

Do you like to sit on the beach and occasionally pick up handfulls of sand?

Would you mind occasionally pooring some of that sand into a large machine?

Then you might have what it takes to be a research assistant on a large university grant project.


How much do they pay ?
The beach is just around the corner.
 
2005-04-08 10:55:28 PM  
Thank god, finally something to do in madison other than drink!!

(2 month resident of Madison)
 
2005-04-08 10:56:30 PM  
Damn you, Baron!

Someone did that in a thread I was in a couple of weeks ago, and he appeared. I'm still twitching.
 
2005-04-08 10:57:38 PM  
i'd put that junk on eay. golden palace would help my retirement fund.
 
2005-04-08 10:57:59 PM  
That'd make some heavy duty zircon encrusted tweezers.
 
2005-04-08 11:08:18 PM  
[image from amor.cms.hu-berlin.de too old to be available]

"Scientists say you can tell how old something is by analysing the layers of dirt it was buried in. "

"Why, you must be six years old!"
 
2005-04-08 11:11:37 PM  
Joe Skulan is a pretty funny guy, I took a class from him once.

/not really relevant
 
2005-04-08 11:12:19 PM  
DarKrow

Some Christian dude anaylized the bible and determined the date of the Creation to be 4004 BC. I think the date was October 25th, but I could be wrong.

It was Bishop Ussher. The actual date was later revised to April 27 - a fact which pleases me no end. It's not everybody that gets born on the anniversary of creation, but I did.
 
2005-04-08 11:12:50 PM  
serillian
Thank god, finally something to do in madison other than drink!!

Believe you me, friend, drinking is always involved in Mad-town.
 
2005-04-08 11:19:24 PM  
linewalker: Believe you me, friend, drinking is always involved in Mad-town.


Not true, some people go to class sober. Other than that, well...
 
2005-04-08 11:22:47 PM  
rob.d: I thought the world was only 10,000 years old.

God created the Earth on October 22nd, 4004 BC, according to Bishop Ussher. But the Mayans thought the earth was even younger, created on February 10th, 3641 BC. The youngest estimate I've seen is from the Jewish Rabbi Lipman (1579 - 1654), who claimed the earth was created in 3616 BC.

The Bah' World Faith say 4122 BC and the Jehovah's Witnesses estimates 4026 BC, according to the same website I got the Mayan date from.
 
2005-04-08 11:24:30 PM  
According to scientists, the whole freakin' earth is 4 1/2 billion years old.

And they found a speck 4 1/2 billion years old? On a planet 4 1/2 billion years old?

*yawn*
 
2005-04-08 11:27:16 PM  
Yucca
Not true, some people go to class sober. Other than that, well...

Heh, well Playboy refused to rank UW in the top party school when I was still there. Apparently, professionals weren't allowed to compete.
 
2005-04-08 11:30:00 PM  
Good headline, submitter!
 
2005-04-08 11:30:28 PM  
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2005-04-08 11:32:30 PM  
[image from photos1.flickr.com too old to be available]

Nope, they've got it wrong. This is the worlds oldest known object.

/first Vigoda cliche reference
//pats self on back
///feels so .... unclean ....
 
2005-04-08 11:33:07 PM  
Here, let me sum up the whole Bevets thing for you.

Bevets: Nothing is that old

Everyone else: Yes it is

Bevets: No it isn't

Everyone else: Yes it is

Bevets: ::Quotes scripture and claims it is fact::


There. I just saved you two boobless hours.

/Family Guy
 
2005-04-08 11:33:56 PM  
Damm you, brushwoodthicketfarmer!!! Damn you!!

Beaten to the punch! And autographed as well!

/bows to the master
 
2005-04-08 11:37:15 PM  
dcigary got pawn3d while scouring a GIS eh?

how embassing.
 
2005-04-08 11:47:31 PM  
I thought they buried Strom Thurmond a long time ago?
 
2005-04-08 11:50:02 PM  
The ages of things like that can be determined by looking at the ratios of radioactive isotopes in them. The exact details are pretty complicated. Duh. A Google search might turn it up.

I have some meteorites on the shelf next to me, and one is 4.6 billion years old. The Murchison meteorite may be partly older than the solar system itself; some of it may be from the supernova explosion which triggered the formation of our own solar system!
 
2005-04-08 11:50:49 PM  
They don't mention where they found the rock.

It's from a section of the Canadian Shield near Schrieber, Ontario. (Or so I've been told.) Cool area. Lots of rocks and trees. And rocks. And trees. Some water, then some more rocks and trees. Not much else there.

And stop trying to turn this in to a flame war.
 
2005-04-09 12:00:33 AM  
My only question about carbon dating is this: let's say this particular 4 billion year old rock was dropped into a subduction fault and sucked back into the Earth's core. Millions of years later, it's spewed out of a volcano. Why is it that its internal clock would be reset so that the age youd get if you carbon-dated it would be the age it came out of the volcano? Why wouldn't you get the original age of the rock?

Yes, I know it would get melted inside the earth. The question still stands, how does this reset the clock?
 
2005-04-09 12:06:32 AM  
enave

I'm no expert, but I think it has to do partly with the fact that if the rock is melted and then magma or lava crystallises later, it's almost impossible that that exact rock would form. Chances are it would be made up of magma that came from hundreds or millions of different melted rocks.
Also, I think the clock is only "started" once it forms in a rock. Whatever the exact means for identifying how old a rock is must have to do with determining it crystalised.
 
2005-04-09 12:07:32 AM  
As far as I know, enave, you can only do carbon dating on organic material.

In your example, the volcanic reaction wouldn't change the radioactive nature of the rock, so it'd still be possible to date it the same as before. I think. I'm definitely not an expert on the subject.
 
2005-04-09 12:10:57 AM  
It scares me how brushwoodthicketfarmer's Abe Vigoda pic appears older than the one dcigary posted..
Yet they are apparently the same pic, maybe that's how Abe does it, he's a modern day Dorian Gray?
/Abe Gray?
//Dorian Vigoda??
///startin to scare myself.
 
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