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(El Paso Times)   The pope's death could launch a Catholic revival   ( ) divider line
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2005-04-08 09:55:15 AM  
Luckily, fads have shorter and shorter lifepspans today.

/not the submitter.
2005-04-08 11:01:53 AM  
Wouldn't that mean that people didn't want to be Catholic unless the Pope was dead? What, didn't they like him or something?
2005-04-08 11:07:44 AM  
From TFA:

I'm sure that there are plenty that are eager for a pope that is more forward-looking.

Then they're looking in the wrong church - JPtG picked all but five of the cardinals who will vote for his successor. If Francis Cardinal Arinze gets the nod, there may be a quick return to the Church so people can enjoy the novelty of having a black Pope, but as soon as he starts talking about where and what the female altar servers are allowed to do, they'll say "hmm, another arch-conservative. Oh well." and go back to enjoying the status of being a lapsed Catholic.

And if it's another conservative Italian (or God forfend, Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger) you can kiss the involvement of the first world with the Church goodbye altogether.
2005-04-08 11:27:38 AM  
This development pleases the Queen Spider.

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2005-04-08 11:43:05 AM  
first one to make a "priests touching boys" quip gets a swift virtual kick in the nuts for being insanely uncreative.
2005-04-08 01:42:51 PM  
Perhaps if they want someone forward looking, they should look at someone much younger, vs another old fart.

/or just get rid of the church all together.
2005-04-08 02:01:17 PM  
or not.

/proud ex-catholic
2005-04-08 02:02:06 PM  

/going to get deleted again for lack of content. Been there/done that.
2005-04-08 02:02:58 PM  
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2005-04-08 02:03:28 PM  
submitter: I find your lack of faith disturbing.

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2005-04-08 02:03:42 PM  
Do I hear an AMEN?!

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2005-04-08 02:06:56 PM  

i found looking at him in his santa hat made me feel a little icky. and the funeral went on for soooooo long. i wouldn't want any part of that.

and sherekahn great graphic, but thats christian.....

/i think

who the hell is that? i remeber him from long ago.
2005-04-08 02:07:05 PM  
Here's praying for Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio as the next pope.

Makes his own dinners in a small apartment, takes public transportation, is a Latin American Jesuit....I'd be happy!
2005-04-08 02:07:06 PM  
Yeah, more likely all the Catholics that have been flocking to the vatican to see the pope are being shaken by a severe case of guilt. After all, Catholicism is one of the greatest institutions at creating subservience through guilt in it's members. So if anything, there may be a short period of catholics returning to the flock, but it'll be back to 'only church on Easter and Christmas' after that.

/anti-christ mode off
2005-04-08 02:07:07 PM  

Ha! Fantastic.
2005-04-08 02:09:16 PM  
2005-04-08 02:09:53 PM  
.... Or it could prompt the church's collapse when they elect some foolish conservative old tool, who won't allow change.
2005-04-08 02:10:38 PM  
"I believe, and still believe, that he was a very holy man and a good man, but I don't think that he was a fair-minded, open-minded Catholic," Springer said of Pope John Paul II. "I see him as a throwback to a much earlier and rigid time carrying forward the message of Christ. I'm sure that there are plenty that are eager for a pope that is more forward-looking."

And people called the Pope out of touch? That's what the role of the Pope is you sub-functionally retarded man, that role can't be redefined. The Pope is never going to be some loser celebrity doing Nike commercials and trying to reach people with his own QA show on MTV.

Abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, etc, are constant and infallible teachings of the Church, even if a Pope wanted to, he couldn't undo these teachings, because you can't undo an official teaching. The Pope could call you personally and say these things are ok, theoretically, but he can't say they are ok officially. It would be nice if the press and all these so-called "lapsed Catholics" could pick up a catechism and have the courtesy of learning about a religion before opening their mouths.
2005-04-08 02:10:45 PM  
The pope is dope.
2005-04-08 02:11:08 PM  

No kidding I'm sure the the sermons in every Catholic Church for the next month will be "We welcome you back to the Church, The pope wanted you to be a part of the church"

The Church spins guilt faster than politicians spin BS
2005-04-08 02:11:12 PM  

2005-04-08 02:11:26 PM  
did you see israel's president (born in Iran) shake hands and speak in farsi to iran's president?
and then syria's president joining them?

that in itself is a miracle.

now if only Bush had joined...

/religion is not only a divider
2005-04-08 02:11:49 PM  
The whole "catholics aren't christian" statement is lame... Christian means one who follows Christ. Last time I went to mass (insert joke here) we looked at Christ on the cross. Catholic means universal, which is also somewhat lame... Universal? 25% of the American public is not universal. As Reverend Lovejoy says, it doesn't matter if your christian, jew, or miscellaneous. As for the picture, I just thought it was funny. Anytime you can make the farting preacher look like he's into whores and blow is a good thing.
2005-04-08 02:13:08 PM  
Yeah, and if they keep selecting Cardinals that had to leave their posts due to the scandals about pedophile priests in their dioceses, to conduct the Pope's funeral Mass... they're headed in the right direction.
2005-04-08 02:13:56 PM  
Yay! More praying to icons! More materialism! More worship practices that have no Biblical basis whatsoever! Whooo hoo!!
2005-04-08 02:14:29 PM  
..proving people have no farking idea what to do with their time on earth. Fad religions, does it get any more classless.

Living in an intellectual and cultural void? Latch your meangless life onto an old power structure for fun and relaxation.
2005-04-08 02:14:48 PM  
In other news: 4,167 garage bands instantly name themselves The Dead Popes.
2005-04-08 02:15:14 PM  
Catholics consider themselves Christian, but consider Catholisism to be SUPERIOR to Christianity. At least thats what was drilled into my head all through Catholic School
2005-04-08 02:16:13 PM  
Ah the El Paso Times. shiathole newspaper
2005-04-08 02:16:20 PM  
2005-04-08 02:16:26 PM  
I also think all the powerful people attending were envious. They'll never have such attendance of people and heads of state at their funeral.

It was nice to hear the chants in greek from the orthodox, the only other real church.

/protestant? what good is a creator if you change him as you wish?
2005-04-08 02:16:28 PM  
A tad late to become Catholic.. only two more Popes to go!
2005-04-08 02:16:32 PM  

As for the picture, I just thought it was funny. Anytime you can make the farting preacher look like he's into whores and blow is a good thing.

the funny part about that guy was he was into those things.

can't remeber his name...........
2005-04-08 02:16:48 PM  
because you can't undo an official teaching.

actually you can (copernicous, whole solar system thing)

but I would agree with your statement if you change can't to won't. everybody who wants to be a "Christian if they cahnge a few beliefs" doesn't really want to be a Christian now do they?

2005-04-08 02:17:08 PM  
Robert Tilton
2005-04-08 02:17:25 PM  
I see a bunch of people like lighting the priests up about the altar boy stuff...don't blame you. But at the same time let's not forget the only reason the catholic church is being hounded by the press is because of the age and prestige of this religion. I am sure there are plenty of Lutherns, Baptist (south) doing the same. It's more news worthy if a priest does something bad because of the vow. So either way no matter what happnens you can't just pin this on priests because there are Revs, Rabbis, etc...doing the same damn thing.
2005-04-08 02:17:33 PM  
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Never gets old.

/to me, anyway

2005-04-08 02:17:38 PM  
Given what JPII said in his will, I think this should be the last pope that dies in office of old age.

The impact of the Pope's death and funeral would not have been the same had he died when living out his final months in some little retirement monastery in the hills around Rome. A retired Pope on dying would go out with a bit of a whimper, not this enormous thunderclap that has shaken the world to its spiritual foundations.
2005-04-08 02:17:47 PM  
Take your manufactured guilt and dogma and stick it in your ridiculous and wrong religion.

Oh, wait, you already did.


/hopes the next pope isn't so uptight about women
//knows it's not going to happen
2005-04-08 02:19:06 PM  
I believe it, I've had several non-Christian friends call me lately who were interested in attending Mass with me.

In honor of the deceased (May Pope John Paul II find himself at the Lord's side), I present you with this:

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2005-04-08 02:19:10 PM  
Do people really decide whether or not to practice Catholicism based on who the Pope is? Catholicism WOW!

/not the least bit religous
2005-04-08 02:20:30 PM  

the church, any church, is a political body. that's a given, none ever denied it.

that's the main problem with Luther, to think the church should be only about God.

the soul is about God, people are about other people, so the church which is people, is politics.

/oh yeah, and the only reason you are not catholic is, of course, not wanting to pay taxes to Rome.
2005-04-08 02:20:32 PM  
2005-04-08 09:55:15 AM StrikitRich [TotalFark]

Luckily, fads have shorter and shorter lifepspans today.

i hope so, as this anti-religious, "Im better than you because I don't believe in God" fad is getting old mighty quick.
2005-04-08 02:21:13 PM  
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2005-04-08 02:21:21 PM  
I find it funny that I went to a catholic highschool (I'm Protestant) and did better in religion class than most of the catholics that went to the school.
2005-04-08 02:21:54 PM  
moondawg32: because of the age and prestige of this religion.

Or the coverups.​O​SITORY/5 04070345/1001/NEWS01

This is why the catholic church gets so much stick, and rightly so.
2005-04-08 02:21:58 PM  
i hope so, as this anti-religious, "Im better than you because I don't believe in God" fad is getting old mighty quick.

Agreed. (And I'm not the slightest bit religious.)
2005-04-08 02:23:25 PM  
How do you 'revive' the largest Christian religion in the world? Doesn't matter who is the next Pope, the church has it's laws.
2005-04-08 02:23:48 PM  
That was exactly the kind of funeral I want when I go - just a nice quiet affair for about a million. But I couldn't believe they didn't go the whole hog and fly in Wayne Newton - I could just hear Mr. Las Vegas singing "Oh my papa...", there wouldn't have been a dry eye in the house...
2005-04-08 02:24:22 PM  
I think your missing the point of the article - and whats going on:

1) Its making catholics reflect on themselves and their faith and may encourage them to be more active in the church.

2) Every news channel has practicallly been one huge info-mercial for the past week on the Catholosism. If one was christain, one might look more into being catholic now. It may also cause those who arent very religeous to reflect on themselves and their spirituality.
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