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(Yahoo)   Video-game player stabs to death man who sold his cyber-sword (new link)   ( divider line
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2005-03-31 12:25:14 AM  
Link borked, here's the article:

Online gamer killed for selling cyber sword

A Shanghai online game player has stabbed to death a competitor who sold his cyber sword for real money.

The sale created a legal dilemma because China has no law covering the ownership of virtual weapons.

The China Daily newspaper reported that a Shanghai court was told Qiu Chengwei, 41, stabbed competitor Zhu Caoyuan repeatedly in the chest after he was told Zhu had sold his dragon sabre, used in the popular online game Legend of Mir 3,

The online game features heroes and villains, sorcerers and warriors, many of whom wield enormous swords.

Qiu and a friend jointly won their virtual weapon last February and lent it to Zhu, who then sold it for 7,200 yuan.

Qui went to the police to report the theft but was told the weapon was not real property protected by law.

"Zhu promised to hand over the cash but an angry Qui lost patience and attacked Zhu at his home, stabbing him in the left chest with great force and killing him," the court heard.

'Private property'

Newspaper reports on the incident did not specify the charge against Qiu but said he had given himself up to police and already pleaded guilty to intentional injury.

No verdict has been announced.

More and more online gamers are seeking justice through the courts over stolen weapons and credits.

"The armour and swords in games should be deemed as private property as players have to spend money and time for them," said Wang Zongyu, an associate law professor at Beijing's Renmin University of China.

But other experts are calling for caution.

"The assets of one player could mean nothing to others as they are by nature just data created by game providers," an unnamed lawyer for a Shanghai-based Internet game company said.
2005-03-31 12:54:21 AM  
2005-03-31 01:04:21 AM  
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I'm sure this is related, somehow...
2005-03-31 01:08:11 AM  
Sad. Truly sad.

Well, at least one gamer will get a life - in a PYITA federal prison!
2005-03-31 01:10:51 AM  
Abudiwa: they should have picked my link.

But did you submit it with a better headline?
2005-03-31 01:12:31 AM  
"We're sorry...this story is not available"
2005-03-31 01:24:10 AM  
And-1: But did you submit it with a better headline?

negatory. link worked tho.
2005-03-31 01:25:13 AM  
It should be legal to hunt down and kill ninja looters.
2005-03-31 01:25:37 AM  
Blues_X: I'm sure this is related, somehow...

I don't know if it is or not, but I want one!
2005-03-31 01:26:22 AM  
If you kill someone over online items, you need to be shot as soon as possible.

/that being said, stay away from my island!
2005-03-31 01:26:47 AM  
I didn't RTFA, but


2005-03-31 01:27:04 AM  
Damn, and you would think Chinese food would just be rats and cats, but now it's people who get stabbed by video game players.
2005-03-31 01:27:31 AM  
eh...gotta do what you gotta do...

/level this up
2005-03-31 01:28:12 AM  
Stabs with sword - gains +30 in strengh..
-40 in prison rape
+10 if likes prison rape...
2005-03-31 01:31:13 AM  
Ahh man. I can see how he felt. I mean sure that sword might not have had +6 to Ogre slaying, but man the pixilage. It was truly a site to behold.

/didn't RTFA
//almost thought it was about Diablo 2 before I read Jimmyego's post
/// anyone else remember when people were selling Diablo 2 stuff on ebay?
2005-03-31 01:31:43 AM  
The dude stole his sword and we all know that no one messes with a level 42 knight with +10 power attack

/has played his fair share of MMORPG
2005-03-31 01:33:13 AM  
"The assets of one player could mean nothing to others as they are by nature just data created by game providers," an unnamed lawyer for a Shanghai-based Internet game company said.-----

so based on this assumption, i can -legally- download music, because after all, it is just data created by musicians.
2005-03-31 01:37:01 AM  
El Reg usually has a nice sarcastic tone in their coverage.
2005-03-31 01:37:11 AM  
Look folks, I don't meant to sound preachy (oh yes I do, or i wouldn't have started with that), but if you actually have developed murderous intent (not the normal fun, ha ha kill the flamer, jk) over something in a video game...quit playing video games. sell your computer, never ever look at one again.
If you must buy a 2d console and forget about the internet all together. If you're that upset about being set back in a game, either the game isn't fun to play (or you would gladly quest again), or you have some sort of psycological disorder and need counsiling. SERIOUSLY...

Photoshop contest idea: nerd psycological disorders
difficulty: no BSD
2005-03-31 01:37:15 AM  
The link is farked.
2005-03-31 01:37:50 AM  
The dude ddeserved it. Stole the guy's sword. Man, if somebody did that to me I'd roll initiative on their ass and own them with my kitchen knife +1.
2005-03-31 01:40:26 AM  
2005-03-31 01:41:32 AM  
There can be only one.
2005-03-31 01:45:02 AM  
Not really surprised. With as many in-game items available for sale on ebay, it's somewhat big business. Believe it or not, there are actual "sweatshops" that turn in-game content into real money.
2005-03-31 01:47:22 AM  
2005-03-31 01:47:24 AM  
A larger issue:

11 posts since FARK came back up. 3 are PS. 1 is about a FARK party (what farking loser go to these?) and another is about going down (and if FARK was a self-esteem-impaired biatch, well hey-ya!) so that leaves SIX threads worth the timer and effort.

Bring back the big-nutted squirrel. That was more entertaining.
2005-03-31 01:47:58 AM  
how much is 7,200 yuan in american dollars?
2005-03-31 01:50:26 AM  
Lightning bolt! Lightning bolt!
2005-03-31 01:51:14 AM  
If the weapon is droppable (ie sellable) then it is crap. No decent mmorpg hardcore player has any droppable equipment.

Not that I play those games!!!

2005-03-31 01:51:38 AM  
that's nearly 1000 US. In China that's a small fortune. Must be nouveau riche.
2005-03-31 01:54:35 AM  
The guy who sold his sword could've lived if he was wearing his +5 armor of the dorkwads.
2005-03-31 01:54:40 AM  
7,200.00 CNY (China Yuan Renminbi) = 869.912 USD
2005-03-31 01:55:20 AM  
7200 yuan is approxamitely $870 USD

Yuan Converter Page
2005-03-31 01:56:00 AM  
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Not even a squirrel with large nuts. For shame.
2005-03-31 01:56:39 AM  
I'd only kill someone if they took the ogre-slaying knife I have. It has a +9 against ogres.
2005-03-31 01:56:53 AM  
Dee-ob-low? what is this dee-ob-low of which you speak? I know nothing of selling items from hours of labor only to find that is was only worth $4.99 on eBay.
/I'm so lonely...hold me
//no one cares about the murdered guy
2005-03-31 01:57:08 AM  
Nearly 1000$US? What!?


A whole grand? For a video game item? Not a good fun/cost ratio, if you ask me. There are so many things you can afford with a thousand dollars...

I just can't farking believe it.
2005-03-31 02:07:53 AM  
Actually, this guy probably makes his living off of selling game items so it's not that he is simply killing because of his fragile ego. There are plenty of people who do this in the US, Japan and Korea and now China is experiencing its internet/online gaming boom.

Because of the huge difference in cost of living, online games in Japan have a lot of problems with Chinese users over this. A Chinese player can sell a single in-game item for say $30 and in some parts of China that $30 might pay a months rent. Therefore killing someone over $870 might be worth it to this guy.
2005-03-31 02:08:58 AM  
Legend of Mir 3? Never hoid of it. Anyone else?
2005-03-31 02:10:06 AM  
Used to be I would laugh ceaselessly at something like this. Now I'm just disturbed by a real murder. I may be developing a conscience.

I'd kill to get an elixer to take care of that.
2005-03-31 02:14:06 AM  
Google "Legend of Mir 3" and you'll get to their main page. It's a really stupid looking game that appears to be a lame version of Diablo II.

You have got to be a moron to stab someone over something liket his.
2005-03-31 02:14:07 AM  
thats nothing you should have seen what i did to the guy that stole my e-penis.
2005-03-31 02:15:17 AM  
Bring back the big-nutted squirrel. That was more entertaining.

Do you promise to stop complaining if someone posts it for you?
2005-03-31 02:17:50 AM  

A whole grand? For a video game item? Not a good fun/cost ratio, if you ask me. There are so many things you can afford with a thousand dollars...

I just can't farking believe it.

I don't know. Some people buy Gucci shoes, or little yapping dogs; some buy thousand-yuan virtual swords. Seems like as decent a purchase as any for the rich.

/Dork couture?
2005-03-31 02:45:48 AM  
2005-03-31 02:49:12 AM  
sworded him out good?

2005-03-31 02:52:16 AM  
Well, you can kick someone in the face with Gucci shoes. Or even better, make the little yapping dog an unguided ballistic projectile with your Gucci shoes. That's an activity which can keep one occupied for countless hours! (Depending on how long the yapping little dog lasts)

As for a video game item... Wha? It's a virtual online thing that doesn't really exist. You know, like most things online are fake and dont exist.
2005-03-31 03:04:22 AM  
Sorta like the money in people's bank accounts? (Since that's just bits of Data in a computer?)

2005-03-31 03:12:29 AM  
The dead guy will be okay.

He regenerates, and loses 10% of his stats.
2005-03-31 03:39:18 AM  
Nobody tell a mom about this.
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