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(IOL.co.za)   Two skiers spend night on ski-lift after staff switches machinery off and goes home   (iol.co.za ) divider line
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2005-03-29 02:23:54 AM  
It doesn't say how high the lift is above the ground. They must have considered jumping.
 
2005-03-29 08:34:07 AM  
I hope they didn't have to pee.
 
2005-03-29 09:52:29 AM  
This is why you should always bring several flasks of whiskey when skiing. Always.
 
DAR [TotalFark]
2005-03-29 12:49:43 PM  
This is why you should always bring several flasks of whiskey when skiing. Always.

Make that peppermint schnapps for me please, only time I can stand the stuff is outside in winter for some reason.
 
2005-03-29 01:59:04 PM  
Oh wow! That is very scary!!
 
2005-03-29 03:22:51 PM  
Damn, they were both men.
/would rather have let his imagination run rampant
 
2005-03-29 03:26:26 PM  
They're SUPPOSED to have a lift operator at each end watch the empties go around TWICE and verify it with the guy at the bottom, picking one car/seat/whatever as a reference point.

That way noone can get on at either end and make it halfway up or down.

Also as a final check, the uphill operator's supposed to ski down under the lifts and visually inspect for anyone/thing that might be still on..

Common Sense Surrenders (it's in France for those not wanting to bother RTFA'ing)
 
2005-03-29 03:26:36 PM  
I don't ski so I don't know but I thought lifts tagged the last chair up and the operators at the top radioed the operators at the bottom to confirm the last run.

Had a friend once that said his operation had an employee go up on the last chair and ski down to make sure no one got stranded this way.
 
2005-03-29 03:26:40 PM  
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2005-03-29 03:27:08 PM  
It's called packing up and going home for some hot cocoa and shiatty cable before it's dark on the slopes and therefore much more dangerous. Fools.

/didn't rtfa
 
2005-03-29 03:31:51 PM  
lawsuits begin in 3.....2.......1.......
 
2005-03-29 03:33:13 PM  
Ummm...that's not funny, right?

/Anyone?
 
2005-03-29 03:33:28 PM  
At least in the US you could warm yourself with the thoughts of a million dollar settlement... poor bastards.
 
2005-03-29 03:33:40 PM  
Korovyov

Damn, they were both men.

yeah, but it also says they were French which sort of cancels out the men part. Just ask the Germans about French "manhood".
 
2005-03-29 03:35:45 PM  
What Markie_Farkie said.

I worked a winter at Mount Hood.
 
2005-03-29 03:37:12 PM  
"Lack of vigilance" is putting it mildly. The men were very lucky that it's Easter and -4c is *warm* for the middle of the night up a mountain at Les Arcs. In January, they'd have died after just a few hours.

Probably the lift was undermanned, possibly one of the unguarded lifts higher up the mountain where skiers are warned not to ascend after X, where X is 15 minutes before closing time.

And probably the two men were Australian. Sorry, cobbers. :-)
 
2005-03-29 03:37:18 PM  
Geez. Even if it's only 10 feet off the ground, I'd be worried about breaking some bones if I jumped from a chairlift.
 
2005-03-29 03:37:43 PM  
Huh . . . it's like the skiing version of "Open Water."
 
2005-03-29 03:37:57 PM  
This happend one time during the summer I think in VT. When a guy was Mt Biking. He tried to climb down and ended up breaking both legs when he fell. He then crawled to the bottom (dark at this point) and got help.
 
2005-03-29 03:38:28 PM  
In Europe,it's Apfelcorn and beer, shiat loads of beer. Suck it up and spend the night, or have balls enough to crawl to safety. (I always carry a bota full of high power spirits myself.)
Either way, I will mock you in these threads.
Love, Zyklon
 
2005-03-29 03:38:54 PM  
Didn't and not going to RTFA, I think the people who got stuck are 'the ghey' (hey, the ARE french), if I ever got stuck (I don't ski, tho) I'd drop off the lift, ski down, and tell them I'm calling my lawyer (don't have one of those, either) so I can get a nice hefty settlement and never have to work again, because being stuck on it and then dropping off and skiing down was 'so traumatic.'

Just kidding, I hate people who file frivolous lawsuits, but I would want some money from them for having put put up with their stupidity.
 
2005-03-29 03:39:25 PM  
thats cold.

/got nothin
 
2005-03-29 03:39:43 PM  
Sure the French aren't as litigious as Americans, but this MUST be lawsuit material, right? Either that or someone gets hurt, I'd say.
 
2005-03-29 03:40:56 PM  
If it was ten feet off the ground, I doubt anything would be broken. Must have been quite high, or these guys are wussies.
 
2005-03-29 03:41:21 PM  
zymurgist, then you're an idiot, if it's 10 ft you can grab onto the chair, hang by your arms, and only have about a 2 ft drop. If, however, it's 50 ft, that's a different story. I'm guessing it was probably more of the 50 ft variety.
 
2005-03-29 03:42:22 PM  
Screamingredmenace:

I don't ski so I don't know but I thought lifts tagged the last chair up and the operators at the top radioed the operators at the bottom to confirm the last run.

Had a friend once that said his operation had an employee go up on the last chair and ski down to make sure no one got stranded this way.


And he was d@mned right. I work at a ski resort in the winter, and there are formal procedures that are used to close down the lifts. On ours the chairs are detached and reside at the bottom of the slope, but there are stil some that are permenant, and I can't really speak to their protocol. The purpose is both to preserve the mechanics of the lifts and to make sure nobody is stranded. The lifties here are flat out wrong, and if there's a lawsuit brewing it'll stick. And I hate siding with anyone other than a ski resort in a lawsuit. I might just go smack those dipshiats around myself. ANd since it's in france, I would then go boarding in Bavaria and send them pictures and reciepts.

Finally. A good reason to bash the french.
 
2005-03-29 03:43:13 PM  
smellyrunningshoes
zymurgist, then you're an idiot, if it's 10 ft you can grab onto the chair, hang by your arms, and only have about a 2 ft drop. If, however, it's 50 ft, that's a different story. I'm guessing it was probably more of the 50 ft variety.

what you have to do if it's 50 feet is take off all your clothes and make a rope. then you can climb down to safty.
 
2005-03-29 03:44:01 PM  
Coulda died from negligence equals lawsoup in my book.

If I had a book.
 
2005-03-29 03:44:05 PM  
cheapimitation, i like your style. If I'm going to be stuck hypothermic I might as well get to flash everyone enroute to the hospital :)
 
2005-03-29 03:45:08 PM  
We know why they were really stuck!

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2005-03-29 03:45:12 PM  
Hey smelly,

I guess you don't mind shrinkage ...
 
2005-03-29 03:45:40 PM  
I have been on lifts in california and utah that were well over 100' off the ground at some point. I'm willing to bet they ruled-out jumping (or pushing).
 
2005-03-29 03:45:54 PM  
zymurgist,

Geez. Even if it's only 10 feet off the ground, I'd be worried about breaking some bones if I jumped from a chairlift.


Yeah but it's not like you'd be dropping down onto flat, level concrete. You'd be landing on snow, on a slope, so the moment you hit the ground you'd start skiing downhill, it wouldn't be decelleration from 9.8m/sec^2 to instant stop. (More likely, if you tucked and rolled, that would reduce the amount of stopping force once you hit the ground too. This is what they teach you in the army, how to land after paratrooping. They start you by having you stand on a chair, jumping off, and practicing the 'roll' maneuver. Then a table, then 5 feet, 7.5 feet, etc.)

Plus, you could hang yourelf off of the ski lift by your hands, to reduce the distance between yourself and the ground by 5-6 feet.
 
2005-03-29 03:46:07 PM  
smellyrunningshoes

Depends on what the terrain below the lift looks like. It might not be a trail. It might be covered with big rocks and a whole bunch of things you might not want to land on in the dark.

But hey, thanks for the ad hominem.
 
2005-03-29 03:47:06 PM  
forcebender, i'm a girl.
 
2005-03-29 03:47:23 PM  
In france, the resort is investigating.

In the US, Jessie Jackson would be praying with the guys(even if they are not christian) and a gang of lawyers would be waiting at the bottom of the hil yelling "pick me! pick me!"
 
2005-03-29 03:47:33 PM  
how is cold -4c?

/not european or metric
 
2005-03-29 03:47:39 PM  
zymurgist, bah eat more calcium. 10ft jump is easy even onto hard ground. I've done 30ft jumps into 3ft of powder. That is a good time. But this is a chair lift that could have easily been 100ft.
What is the highest any farkers have jumped (other than skydiving).
I've done half that into water and was scared shiatless... remember to keep your legs crossed.
 
2005-03-29 03:48:04 PM  
"Damn, they were both men.
/would rather have let his imagination run rampant"

Well, they were french...
 
2005-03-29 03:48:25 PM  
Here is a pic from one of 170 lifts there:
 
2005-03-29 03:48:48 PM  
-4C = 25F

pfffffft.... Cry babies.
 
2005-03-29 03:49:30 PM  
Crap, won't link: Poppy clicky.
 
2005-03-29 03:50:17 PM  
zymurgist, i'd still rather take my chances jumping 2 ft, in a controlled manner, onto terrain i've seen then, risk sacrificing appendages to hypothermia for the night. Your point was good, but your 10 ft number was just silly. There aren't many places on real ski hills where you'll be 'stranded' 10 ft above ground.
 
2005-03-29 03:50:36 PM  
This is why you should always bring several flasks of whiskey when skiing. Always.

Nope. Nothing more than short term false warmth. And it decreases the blood flow in your extremities which exacerbates the cold problem later.

Of course if you get so drunk that you fall out of the chair, then the problem is solved. Perhaps that is what you were thinking of...
 
2005-03-29 03:50:47 PM  
9 hours on a lift for me. Thanksgiving skiing at Snowshoe, WV (Ballhouter lift, right by the face in the rock). They let us down with ropes. Not fun.
 
2005-03-29 03:51:45 PM  
Who cares thay were skiers=stupid.
 
2005-03-29 03:53:08 PM  
Damn, they were both men.
/would rather have let his imagination run rampant


Hey, I just got an idea for a gay porn
 
2005-03-29 03:53:15 PM  
Thats why I drive my Jeep up the mountain instead of using the lift.
HA!
 
2005-03-29 03:53:28 PM  
All right, I didn't think about hanging from the chair. Good idea.

I was thinking about certain US resorts where they have to make snow... the area under the chairlifts only get snow if they are actual trails, otherwise there are lots of sharp rocks to land on. Maybe a drop into powder wouldn't be all that bad, but I'm visualizing the "Homer falls into the canyon" scenario here.

/still bummed about spraining my knee after only 4 mountain days this season
 
2005-03-29 03:53:37 PM  
Crebain

-4c = 24F (roughly). Not really that cold, but cold enough to induce hypothermia.

/Been on a chairlift at -25F, now that was cold!
 
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